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On September 04 2014 13:50 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 13:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 04 2014 13:41 Sylencia wrote:
I would, but I'm not reading the actual thread at the moment because I'm at work - I just looked at the latest posts to see what was being said at the time Why bother then? Do you think your uninformed posts are useful to town at this stage of the game? No, because the proposal given is an isolated train of thought that isn't connected (as far as I know) to the rest of the game that is going on. Apparently lurking instead of tryingto expand on an idea when I can't actually do anything else is scummy though so.. ok.
not using your time to find scum, even if you only have limited capabilities at the time is scummy.
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Ritoky, why did sloosh ask you that softball question? Was there previous interaction that I missed?
Sloosh is scum cause he hasn't done anything useful yet. Just asked a few useless questions.
So he has the time to post a bit but doesn't do anything with that time.
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On September 04 2014 13:50 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 13:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 04 2014 13:41 Sylencia wrote:
I would, but I'm not reading the actual thread at the moment because I'm at work - I just looked at the latest posts to see what was being said at the time Why bother then? Do you think your uninformed posts are useful to town at this stage of the game? No, because the proposal given is an isolated train of thought that isn't connected (as far as I know) to the rest of the game that is going on. Apparently lurking instead of tryingto expand on an idea when I can't actually do anything else is scummy though so.. ok.
wait what
lurking is scummy when did you ever see anyone say lurking is towny
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Or syl, you could be scum that doesn't want to lurk and finds the most innocuous thing to talk about.
Do you care whether the thread thinks you are town?
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On September 04 2014 13:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ritoky, why did sloosh ask you that softball question? Was there previous interaction that I missed?
Sloosh is scum cause he hasn't done anything useful yet. Just asked a few useless questions.
So he has the time to post a bit but doesn't do anything with that time.
What do you think of sloosh's defense of Haru? I would consider that to be 'doing something', but yes apart from defending haru he really hasn't done anything.
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On September 04 2014 13:52 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 13:50 Sylencia wrote:On September 04 2014 13:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 04 2014 13:41 Sylencia wrote:
I would, but I'm not reading the actual thread at the moment because I'm at work - I just looked at the latest posts to see what was being said at the time Why bother then? Do you think your uninformed posts are useful to town at this stage of the game? No, because the proposal given is an isolated train of thought that isn't connected (as far as I know) to the rest of the game that is going on. Apparently lurking instead of tryingto expand on an idea when I can't actually do anything else is scummy though so.. ok. wait what lurking is scummy when did you ever see anyone say lurking is towny
that's not the point that they're trying to make though. Basically the act of coming to the thread to check what's been posted in the latest page because I only have 15-20 minutes, posting something that is related to a proposal which is, or at least seems to be, an isolated suggestion which is not relevant to anything that happened in the past 5 or so hours and trying to expand on that is actually a negative thing. From what I understand, I'm better off posting nothing and not giving any opinion on what was suggested because entry posts are oh-so-important.
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On September 04 2014 13:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ritoky, why did sloosh ask you that softball question? Was there previous interaction that I missed?
Sloosh is scum cause he hasn't done anything useful yet. Just asked a few useless questions.
So he has the time to post a bit but doesn't do anything with that time.
no idea why he asked me; probably because most of my previous posts had been joke insults against gobble and robik and he wanted me to talk about the game. but it didn't seem like a question that was posed in a way to gain any alignment indicative information...actually a couple of his other question posts are kinda like that too.
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Fine syl, just find some scum since apparently you have time to argue your side you surely have time to find scum.
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On September 04 2014 13:58 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 13:52 gobbledydook wrote:On September 04 2014 13:50 Sylencia wrote:On September 04 2014 13:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 04 2014 13:41 Sylencia wrote:
I would, but I'm not reading the actual thread at the moment because I'm at work - I just looked at the latest posts to see what was being said at the time Why bother then? Do you think your uninformed posts are useful to town at this stage of the game? No, because the proposal given is an isolated train of thought that isn't connected (as far as I know) to the rest of the game that is going on. Apparently lurking instead of tryingto expand on an idea when I can't actually do anything else is scummy though so.. ok. wait what lurking is scummy when did you ever see anyone say lurking is towny that's not the point that they're trying to make though. Basically the act of coming to the thread to check what's been posted in the latest page because I only have 15-20 minutes, posting something that is related to a proposal which is, or at least seems to be, an isolated suggestion which is not relevant to anything that happened in the past 5 or so hours and trying to expand on that is actually a negative thing. From what I understand, I'm better off posting nothing and not giving any opinion on what was suggested because entry posts are oh-so-important.
why are you so defensive over this? all i am saying is that goal #1 of town is to find and lynch scum, you're not spending your time doing this; thus you're scummy.
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... This game is already starting to be a migraine ...
Guys, please try to condense your posts / refrain from posting side comments to reduce spam. It affects how well we can re-read thread in the future. Also if possible please cut down on the cussing. It seems unnecessary.
As for claiming roles before death, I'm not too sure how that benefits us to do so. I feel like the difference it would make is near endgame but I think it would assist in Witch Soup combos more than benefiting town somehow.
Additionally, not too sure what we are trying to do with the Oracle night alignments. For us to use the information the Oracle receives, he essentially has to out himself and will promptly get Witch Souped next round. I feel like the best play may be just to let people do what they think is best, and then organize things as the game progresses.
If you are talking about claiming roles after death in Angel QT, that seems poor too. It's still valuable information so I'm not sure what claiming achieves.
On September 04 2014 13:38 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 12:53 slOosh wrote:
ritoky, what should we do with the Grail? Why are you asking ritoky. And why are you asking such a useless question
Because its a potential source of information, and even if you think it is useless the fact that other people don't means that it isn't.
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Meh, the defense was not alignment indicative for me. What's more telling is the lack of follow up to that. Instead he keeps asking about the grail.
Actually it's easier for scum to defend cause they are biased. After you know the alignments, motivation for doing something is easy to find.
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Everyone so far thought that question was useless sloosh. What did you gain from it?
Why do you spend half that post complaining and the other half setup speculating? As far as I remember, you aren't a bug fan of breaking themed games.
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Ok this is nonsense what's going on so I'm gonna shut it down independent of Oats' actual alignment.
Oats is posturing into a position where he is blaming people and saying that they aren't scumhunting. Realize that this itself isn't scumhunting. You tell me what Oats has done to scum hunt. Nothing. That question at this point is total bogus.
Not only that his actions are shutting down potentially good town discussion of setup. While in normal games setup talk is something scum favor because it is safe to do, this is a unique theme game, and setup talk can be very pro town. The discussion of actions, even if we don't arrive at a consensus, is a great means of developing information and reads.
Oats, now to you specifically, this game is unique theme. Don't just port over heuristics lazily and pretend you are all that. If you have specific things you want to grill me on, then go ahead, but I'm asking you to change your current approach of pointing fingers at everyone.
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On September 04 2014 14:09 slOosh wrote:
Not only that his actions are shutting down potentially good town discussion of setup. While in normal games setup talk is something scum favor because it is safe to do, this is a unique theme game, and setup talk can be very pro town. The discussion of actions, even if we don't arrive at a consensus, is a great means of developing information and reads.
I think there is a distinct difference between someone ONLY talking about the set-up and theorizing about optimal play and someone who is both interacting with the thread and talking about setup.
gobble and robik for example is doing the latter and i think that is just fine. whereas syl is purely talking about setup and process which i don't find fine.
however oats is town as hell right now. i am town and that guy has literally had the exact same thought as me 3 times almost consecutively. i would even consider voting him for grail at this point.
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my english....it cannot be fixed....maybe i shouldnt have dropped out of 3rd grade.
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Some people find it really easy to ease into games while others build into it. Both as town and as scum. Furthermore it's a themed setup where everyone has a role, so maybe "playing like blue" is kicking in. My point is that shutting down things so early in a 72 hour Day 1 doesn't really help us since you don't know if you just shut down scum or town. All you know is you shut them down.
I'm actually inclined to think gobbleygook and sylencia more townish for their setup discussions.
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On September 04 2014 14:24 slOosh wrote:
Some people find it really easy to ease into games while others build into it. Both as town and as scum. Furthermore it's a themed setup where everyone has a role, so maybe "playing like blue" is kicking in. My point is that shutting down things so early in a 72 hour Day 1 doesn't really help us since you don't know if you just shut down scum or town. All you know is you shut them down.
I'm actually inclined to think gobbleygook and sylencia more townish for their setup discussions.
agree with gobble, not sylencia.
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