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I cant believe you guys actually read more than 1 line and the first picture of that crap. Mistakes. Plynch a bad idea, please dont do it. Kita suggesting a bad idea then immediately dropping it is also pretty scummy. | ||
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Obi, why did you vote for bunnies at the start of the game? just saw 3d's post, calls out micchan for being quiet, doesnt call me out for not posting at all. Clearly sheeping someone's previous sentiment. | ||
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namely obi, kush kita, among others which is cant remember. Kush says bats is scum for 0 content when barely anyone posted. | ||
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##vote: obiwan | ||
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Policy lynching is scum favored | ||
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Show how templar is intentionally misleading us about your posts. | ||
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On September 02 2014 22:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah, if you hit town. Batsnacks posting the way he's posting in a game that has known mechanics in which mafia might have to act out-of-the-ordinary is scummy. I don't understand how you think it's okay. Furthermore, if you're going to lynch me for wanting to plynch someone for being weird, then that in and of itself is a policy lynch and is also scum favored. Also, why me instead of kush, specifically? In regards to your second post, Templar is the one who has to prove that I'm intentionally stirring stuff up and then lurking immediately after. What am I stirring up? Why is it scummy that I've supposedly disappeared from the game? Is there a logical reason behind it or is he just saying that disappearing is scummy and refusing to follow it up at all? Lying might not be the correct word, but I still don't like what he's doing. So you are saying lynching someone who does something scum favored is the same as a policy lynch. How about no. Kush is actually saying stuff other than voting. You just vote and leave. Voting for someone without a good explaination can be construed as stirring shit. Especially twice. And you leave immediately after. It's a reasonable conclusion to draw., why are you so offended he accused you of being scummy? Why don't you do something to change that rather than chainsawing him? | ||
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Kita scum or town | ||
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Micchan is definitely the low hanging fruit of the cycle. Typically I like pushing these types of lynches just as much as mafia do. I'm having trouble envisioning a scenario where he would be helpful on day three. The comment about 3d diverting attention seems sensationalized to me. His other post is a complaint without doing anything and a unnecessary defense. I might put myself in a bad spot if he flips green, but he may be my preferred lynch right now. Come on kita, this is so bad. You give so many rationalizations about him being scum then you totally invalidate it with your last sentence and the non-vote. ##vote: Micchian Vivax, whatcha think about obi? Kita calling me scum is really bad though. Please explain how I am staying under the radar kita. | ||
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On September 03 2014 20:51 The_Templar wrote: I am still thinking. I'll have something, more than 6 hours before the deadline thats basically nothing. think in thread. | ||
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What is your best scumread, not guess read? | ||
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Also what scumdude creates more work for himself? 1. Poofter has more posts than any two people in this thread combined. 2. Poofter is only going after easy targets. 3. Vivax just accused ObiWan of being lazy. 4. Vivax dismisses Poofter being "lazy" despite doing the same thing. Vivax is saying that its not scummy for going after easy targets. the other stuff is just totally extrapolating from very little evidence. Bad bad case. | ||
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Temp, can you quote the post where Vivax says Obi is lazy cause he goes for easy targets? | ||
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Obi, cause we are lynching the other paperweight. Whats your problem with that? Also my last scum game, I totally did what obi did. Asked why everyone was ignoring a dude. | ||
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On September 03 2014 23:58 27ninjabunnies wrote: @Damdred- I havent really liked anything he has said so far. I can go into more detail of this in about an hour or so. Yes, I haven't mentioned anything about Oats so far, but that's because I didn't have anything to go on, until I read and caught up today. @Templar- I'm a she. hey you've been posting since I started, thats total bullshit. | ||
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Mderg and another guy. | ||
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I'm pretty sure there were at least 2 late adopters of the micchan wagon, I'll check later. Kita come on dude, you can do better than that | ||
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On September 04 2014 13:33 kitaman27 wrote: I'm still pretty annoyed that Micchan wasted our time like that. We'll never hear from him again and he could probably care less. I suppose it's part of the game though. I try not to get too worked up over a things so I took a break this evening. Unfortunately, I can't "do better than that" this night cycle with a busy workday tomorrow, but if I don't get shot, things should be much easier once the weekend hits. I trust you to cover for me tonight Oats  It didn't look like you were heavily invested in micchan's lynch anyway. Why the overblown reaction? What makes you think you are in any danger of being shot? I thought you had a scumread on me. What happened to that? | ||
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On September 04 2014 02:56 mderg wrote: I think the Micchan lynch is our best option right now. Yes, he's an easy target but there's a reason for that. His play didn't really look townie. ##vote: Micchan batsnacks, is it really that scummy to go after easy targets? You brought this up against bot poofter and kitaman. I don't think going after easy targets is inherently a scummy thing to do. After all they are easy targets because something about them is scummy. On September 04 2014 03:04 Damdred wrote: ##Vote:Micchan Theres a few things that have led me to this vote. The first being in the way that his posts have gone about. He casually threw more accusations at 3d when pressure on him was the highest. He complained about the thread but never tried to fix it, gave excuses why he did not post yesterday and never posted again. All he has done is lurk, and while lurking is not scummy his play and posts look and feel scummy to me. A couple games ago I got into a situation that was similar in arnie and I let GB slide doing somewhat the same things and I don't want to make that mistake again by letting someone go whos to scummy to be scum. yeah im lynching damdred tmr. | ||
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On September 05 2014 00:29 3d12 wrote: Always? No. And no, asking for reads is not inherently scummy. I find the "explain why you find this important" behavior pretty scummy for D1, considering there's generally very little to find important before the first lynch. Again, this may be a difference in meta, but typically nobody's opinion is worth asking about on D1 and most people who do ask for opinions at that stage are too wrapped up in their mafia mindset to come up with an opinion of their own. This obviously wasn't the case with you, as you showed later on, but it did make me suspicious when my first posted impression of bat was taken to mean a true town read by a lot of people. Does this sound like a newbie writing it to anyone else? | ||
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kita, why didn't you die? | ||
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On September 05 2014 09:39 Vivax wrote: Oats I find that read you give on batsnacks on a whim questionable What scum is so so controversial? | ||
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On September 05 2014 09:45 Vivax wrote: Anyway. I'm most confident into this scumread for the moment: ##Vote: Kushm4sta Kita, your take on kush please. Same for Oats or anyone else for that matter. Yeah I could maybe talk myself into doing it. It's like he has occasionally posted good stuff but not with any consistency, like he only comments on stuff he can make a good post on. | ||
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ITS NOT REPLICATED THROUGHOUT HIS FILTER MEANS HES SCUM On September 02 2014 11:11 kushm4sta wrote: @vivax honestly I don't feel like reading close enough to do what you're asking. Right now I'm filing all active people under "too early to tell" or "town leans". Batsnacks looks terrible. Long nonsense post - possibly satisfying a mission. (templar also did a super long shitty post hmm) Zero content Unexplained vote ##vote batsnacks On September 02 2014 22:26 kushm4sta wrote: So why am I scum? "jumping on the bandwagon?" not really a bandwagon since there are only two people voting for batsnacks, and I didn't really jump on it cause I was the first vote. "refuting vivax" Why are my refutations scummy? What has vivax said that makes sense? On September 04 2014 04:01 kushm4sta wrote: i think this post makes sense. I don't know why people are saying batsnacks is being weird about the apologetic tone. Could be scum defending scum maybe? But it doesn't look like a post scumbatsnacks would make otherwise, just because he has to go so out of his way to find that evidence. On September 04 2014 23:41 kushm4sta wrote: over the last few pages which i kind of skimmed for my name I saw a lot of "kush is mafia because he doesn't give a fuck/low activity" I don't blame you for not being able reading me as town. But you have to realize that low activity doesn't make me mafia. This is from the pregame for cell mafia: So basically what I'm saying is low activity doesn't make me mafia. also totally no followup | ||
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Damdred you are cooking slowly but kush requires a bigger fire | ||
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On September 05 2014 11:17 Damdred wrote: Mush is interesting to me. I've read a few of his games during the night, and well it looks a bit more like storm 2 mush then titanic mush or showdown. So just from a meta, I would say he looks a bit scummy But is he scummy or not? Why give the out saying "just looking at it from this perspective"? This feels so much like scum not wanting to hammer their scum buddy. | ||
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You don't have any strong opinions for day 2 at all. Just pushy footing around my lynch and now kush's lynch. | ||
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On September 05 2014 11:48 Damdred wrote: Nope I said 3d is scum, so no strong opinions out the window. However taking my time and deciding on mush after he posts more today is not a bad thing. He looks like his scum games but that doesn't mean he's scum Where's the vote? Where are the questions to kush trying to determine his alignment. | ||
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On September 05 2014 11:57 Damdred wrote: Your correct Viv that at the point in the first post I did not want to vote on mix. You are also leaving out the context of the first post where poof demanded to know why I was not sleeping his case on mic. However a good bit of time passed and I thought he was the best option especially since a lot of people went afk with votes on him. So yea context helps that Can you explain how people going afk with votes on. Micchan mean that he is the best option? By best option I mean most likely to flip scum | ||
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On September 05 2014 12:13 Damdred wrote: phone posting and wasn't able to break the thought up correctly. I did think he was the best option at the time in the thread. However a last minute shift also seemed impossible from reading the thread That doesnt mean you have to vote for someone everyone else thinks is scum. Literally you can vote ANYONE ELSE. Why was Micchan the best option and why afk people means you MUST FOR FOR HIM. | ||
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On September 05 2014 23:25 kushm4sta wrote: Read through dsmdred filter on and I'm finding it pretty townie with lots of content what the fuck is this. | ||
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##vote kush | ||
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night dudes. | ||
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kush and damdred are voting each other. | ||
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So bunnies/damdred. Bunnies for that horrific post and Vivax scumread. | ||
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On September 07 2014 12:00 27ninjabunnies wrote: Having a bad post doesnt make you mafia. noobclaiming does. | ||
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BAM! Found it. It was Oats. He said policy lynching is bad, then basically policy lynches Micchan? Which, he never really responded to. He also didn't respond to my question about why he was getting so defensive at me calling him scum. I didnt 'basically policy lynch Micchan". Poof posted a case, I liked it, I voted micchan. I dont remember where you called me scum. Who kills obi night one???/ | ||
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On September 08 2014 22:29 Damdred wrote: Kit what do you think about oats claiming he was role blocked? Was anyone blocked last night? please please please tell me how you can infer my alignment from that one piece of information? | ||
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On September 09 2014 11:21 kushm4sta wrote: ok nvm im at a computer now lol i shouldn't even complain. kita let me blow your mind a litlte. poofter/oats/nb woah sick reads bro. Is there the part where you explain nb is bussing me when we have people like damdred and 3d stil alive??? | ||
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I would lynch nb tmr. and if kita/vivax still arent dead, one of them is scum. | ||
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OK so kush just went off lynching damdred and doesn't mention him as a possible lynch target. Just me and nb. Kush and damdred might actually be scum together | ||
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Templar and obi?? Clearly kita or Vivax are scum. Or maybe it's and. NB. KUSH. DAMDRED 3D Ok we kill damdred first ttoday and see what happens. At least 1 scum in each group. | ||
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On September 09 2014 23:04 kushm4sta wrote: lawl this is what you get for picking wifomy nks i actually know how to play scum properly, thank you very much. | ||
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On September 09 2014 23:08 Vivax wrote: Hm, yeah you had 4 pages until N2 in glory seeker, so I'm willing to unscumread you from the activity accusations. ##Unvote Kita's last post showed he put some serious thought into the game and it's just effort I don't see a scum making. So Oats, imagine for a moment that me and him are both town, what's your proposed solution? lynch damdred. Its not that i dont trust kush. Its that I dont trust kush. btw the kita post is effort yes, but the structure of the post is him analyzing events based on supposed flips. So its basically not something anyone with time on their hands could do. How do I put it. err its easy to do it as scum other than the time investment. | ||
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On September 10 2014 00:19 Vivax wrote: Well Oats, your vote yesterday was on kush. I can't lynch people alone so we need to figure out who's better between Dam and kush, or even nb who I'm not sure on, and that in terms of scum likelihood and lynchability. Yesterday the lynchability aspect fucked up the whole wagons, cause we had a majority on kush, then Damdred went super scummy, then the townie wagon got momentum instead. So yeah, need a consensus on one of these two and not a stumbling towards one of them. i did say I changed my mind. Im pretty sure kush is town now. | ||
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On September 10 2014 00:58 kushm4sta wrote: so oats, would you lynch nb since she is your second top scumread right? instead of damdred? to prove your loyalty to us. if she is your seecond top scumread, it shoudl be no problem. nah i wouldnt at this point of time. Damdred or bust. | ||
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On September 10 2014 01:03 Vivax wrote: Why did you include kush here if you townread him then. thats everyone except me. | ||
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On September 10 2014 01:04 Damdred wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote 27ninjabunnies also this. | ||
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On September 10 2014 01:25 Damdred wrote: I'd honestly like to lynch 3d today, but I do not think you guys would listen to me at this point. Oats if Viv and Kit are obviously mafia why would you lnch me first instead of what you said as clearly mafia. because I DONT KNOW WHICH ONE AND I DOUBT ITS BOTH BUT IT COULD BE BUT I DONT KNOW. WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT YOU ARE SCUM. | ||
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So does scum damdred fake claim to save town kush? Hmm maybe. It doesn't make much sense for the mafia team to to all in yet. | ||
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3d has barely any conversational posts. Just heavily structured and thought about. It could be a playstation or he isn't comfortable without structure as scum. Inclined to think the latter reason just for the constant newbie claims. | ||
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Vivax rikoty glowing bear kush one scum here. 1-4 I dont think kush is scum and ive changed my mind about bunnies. So left with Vivax and Glowing bear ##vote glowing bear He keeps getting on kush's case for caring about the number of mislynches. and this post I don't like your idea. I understand it, but I don't like it. You're being too careless here. Making a list and not caring much for mislynches is irresponsible. It makes game easier to mafia, there will be less effort from town and we will have more chances of mislynching townies. If we lynch down a list, it doesnt make the game easier for mafia. And it doesnt increase the chance of mislynching townies from a totally neutral point of view. Like hes been here a while and he hasnt done anything about the rest of the thread in terms of reads and stuff, just jumps on the first 'bad' looking posts and goes at it. | ||
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On September 13 2014 00:21 Vivax wrote: Anyone suspecting me should explain rationally to me why I should be the first guy to push my scumbuddy Damdred after I had plenty of other options to choose from (ie 27nb and bats). If you're town and even more if you're a town replacement (who probably doesn't have a good picture of the game) then you have to reread D2 and answer me that. It's alarming that Oats doesn't consider that since he's been in the game all the time. I dont remember that. But its k, i dont want to lynch you today anyway. Like you are know for bussing people for cred. You even shot a dude for cred. why not this? | ||
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On September 13 2014 00:37 GlowingBear wrote: Yes I'm completely serious. Why do you think this is absurd? @ oats LOL so that's your strongest scumread? I love your logic. "Hey this guy just replaced 3d12 and has done nothing but pushing on kush lol you mafia". Seems legit. I'm working now, will be more active 6 hours from now seems legit that you would rather ridicule me than play the game. | ||
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On September 13 2014 01:54 GlowingBear wrote: I'm playing the game since I came to the thread. I'm not ridiculing you, I am ridiculing your argument, which is bad. You've being playing the whole game and your best case is based on a player who has been playing for less than 20 hours and the argument is that I haven't given reads since I started (which is an insane requirement, I can't possibly read 100 pages of thread that fast). You just jumped on me after Vivax said my argument was bad. You didn't even tried to sum up my opening with the reads you had on 3d12 before. You might also be scum. Vivax, can you tell me why are you voting for kush? I can't read 3d. Totally weird playstyle. I don't give a shit that you can't read 100 pages. That's excuses. You can do other things. My best case is on scum. I'm not obligated to make the longest case ever. Just gotta find scum. I never saw Vivax's argument man. Just read you filter and saw things I don't like. And what are you going on about I might be scum man. I can't fucking play this game and be scum. | ||
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On September 13 2014 04:17 GlowingBear wrote: You're making your best case on a player that just started playing, calling him scum for giving the excuse that he couldn't complete the inhumane task of reading 100 pages of thread and give a solid read on everyone. More than that, you said you couldn't read 3d12 so you're committing the same "sin" your top scumread is doing. You say that I should be reading the thread, yet you say that you haven't read Vivax post. Who's not reading the thread? there are like 5 guys alive. I cant read meaning I dont have a read even though I read his posts. I have a read on you. You are being incredibly factious. Do you think Im scum or not? | ||
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On September 13 2014 05:47 Vivax wrote: Both NKs sort of point to ritoky, maybe also Oats, not sure if Obi felt scummy on Oats though. the night kills so bad man. literally bad. | ||
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On September 14 2014 00:18 Vivax wrote: Can you go into detail. He didn't push his scumread Dam D2 he voted bats for self preservation, that's my best argument. today. | ||
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Literally the best argument is the activity one and Ive easily had 9-10 pages as scum before. So in essence, glowing bear pulling out all the stops and making up a scenario where my actions fit a typical scum mentality but not looking into why exactly im posting what im post. Point 2 is a complete fabrication. He is just not caring for the lynch, as I am an easy target now. He is completely comfortable with lyching anyone because no one is pointing him out and he will survive until LYLO. This is a comfortable mafia picking on an easy target. This right here. He has 0 proof that I want to lynch anyone other than him. He doesnt care about the rest of my play even though its only 4 pages long and questioning the mentality behind the bunnies switch which IMO is the biggest flag for someone looking closely. | ||
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On September 14 2014 01:32 Vivax wrote: Kush, I'm coming around the idea that Oats could be scum, mostly for the D1 to D2 stuff, but do you have an explanation for why you're so different from your usual town games in this one? he thinks im town now man, get with the game. | ||
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I totally dont remember glowing bear having english this bad from the other game I played with him. The feels are totally different. ok so I reread the endish part of day 2. The final Votecount was, On September 07 2014 04:32 HaruRH wrote: Final Vote Count – Day 2 Vivax (0): 3d12 (0): kushm4sta (2): Damdred (4): batsnacks (4): ObiWanShinobi (0): mderg (0): kitaman27 (0): 27ninjabunnies (0): Not voting (1): mderg Currently, batsnacks is set to be lynched with 4 votes. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! Day 2 will end in (19:30 GMT (+00:00)). ALL VOTES AFTER 12.29 ARE NOT COUNTED. So damdred and bat are tied but bat got there first. kush changes his vote to damdred. so its 5-3. Poof looks like he wants to change his vote to damdred from the post he posted before but that wouldnt have made a difference. On September 07 2014 04:29 kushm4sta wrote: ##unvote ##vote batsncaks self preservatoin kush posts this 1 min before deadline. Then posts the damdred vote on the deadline but too late. he doesnt give a shit that it doesnt count. literally does not care. Which seems to me that its intentional. AAAA FUCK MAN FUCK. Mods, can you post a votecount how it was at the end of day 2 please. | ||
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On September 14 2014 01:59 GlowingBear wrote: Vivax, I'm not voting for kush. That vote count is pretty informative. It IS oats. that vote count is completely useless. There are 3 other people on kush besides me. Why arent all 3 of them scum if being on kush at that point makes me scum? | ||
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On September 14 2014 01:57 GlowingBear wrote: I've pointed out the reasons that makes you look scum before my eyes. It doesn't matter what YOU believe that makes you scum. Your attempt to discredit my read is off wat. Why are you engaging me if you clearly do not value my opinion? what. This blows my mind. Your response to my defence is "thats your opinion, invalid." When in fact, im saying stuff which is not my opinion. what. | ||
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Why does kush vote damdred .30? Why does poof want to vote damdred? Are they both scum? At this point, you have to think that scumkush doesnt actually want to kill damdred yet right? or he wouldve voted him earlier. But that .30 vote is like weirddddd. | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:10 GlowingBear wrote: It is informative because it shows that mafia is ok with the lynches. Therefore, they must be town. You lynching kush is a complementary argument to the case I've brought. So lynching town means im scum then? And you think that its somehow a valid point? You dont even read what I type, why bother even posting GlowingBear? | ||
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Sheep me Vivax. but dont fucking lynch me. I will come to your house and pee on your plants if you do. | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:20 GlowingBear wrote: Come on, people!!! Oats is putting all his efforts to force a scumread on me!!! We cannot afford a mislynch! This could be LYLO if there are two mafia and if there's only one, we will reach LYLO day5! We have to kill mafia today!!! its not lylo, stop overreacting. Its not mylo either. | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:21 Vivax wrote: Your vote analysis is based on the fact that in your opinion scum piled onto kush, but one flipped scum didn't, so how exactly can you claim to be right. Damdred wasn't willing to vote kush, he was willing to vote bats, both were willing to vote bats, but kush previously scumread Damdred and didn't vote him but batsnacks instead. It's kush. but kush did vote damdred. A minute too late. So you think its on purpose? | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:30 GlowingBear wrote: He voted for self preservation and he tried to vote for damdred after he saw kita (was it kita?) voted for damdred. Do you really think his .30 vote was a stunt to not get his vote counted? He could've just voted for batsnacks and try to do nothing as mafia. Why bother putting that stunt??? Well your scumread just said what you said but earlier. why does your scumread think the same way as you? | ||
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You havent been pushing your strongest scumread. Your strongest scumread was kush when you entered the thread. Now you are straight up lying. Kush flailing really hard. He has to know that ritoky is not dying unless he comes up with a slamdunk case. Why does he do this as either alignment man. | ||
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