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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 04 2014 23:38 GMT
#837
On September 05 2014 08:37 Vivax wrote:
You. What kind of argument is tmi unless you know you're indeed scum.


Hang on a sec I can't tell you if I was serious or not yet because apparently I'm not finished.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 04 2014 23:45 GMT
#838
Vivax while kush is chewing on that rhetorical quandry:

Is obiwan really town? Your said he was town but I am struggling with this read.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 04 2014 23:48 GMT
#840
On September 05 2014 08:46 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 08:19 Vivax wrote:
Well when I read his posts the thing that comes to mind is: Artificial, excessively thought out. It's like he puts in a tremendous amount of effort to make them sound legitimate.


lol I've never seen "it looks like he's putting a tremendous amount of effort" as a reason to call someone scummy. If you think I'm mafia, come out and say it with a legitimate case, because you're not going to discredit my posts by calling them artificial without providing examples.

@bats, just an fyi, that Doctor Who game that you looked at, I started out as town and was converted to mafia later on in the game.

Will probably post about bunnies next.


If you have time, will you link me a recent game where you where mafia? Maybe two games if you can so it's harder for you to pick one single weird game where you acted uncharacteristically.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 04 2014 23:54 GMT
#846
On September 05 2014 08:51 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 08:48 batsnacks wrote:
On September 05 2014 08:46 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 05 2014 08:19 Vivax wrote:
Well when I read his posts the thing that comes to mind is: Artificial, excessively thought out. It's like he puts in a tremendous amount of effort to make them sound legitimate.


lol I've never seen "it looks like he's putting a tremendous amount of effort" as a reason to call someone scummy. If you think I'm mafia, come out and say it with a legitimate case, because you're not going to discredit my posts by calling them artificial without providing examples.

@bats, just an fyi, that Doctor Who game that you looked at, I started out as town and was converted to mafia later on in the game.

Will probably post about bunnies next.


If you have time, will you link me a recent game where you where mafia? Maybe two games if you can so it's harder for you to pick one single weird game where you acted uncharacteristically.


Since I'm in a good mood, I'll give you examples for everyone. Just for you.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database#2


Had you not been in a good mood, what would you have responded with?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 05 2014 00:03 GMT
#850
On September 05 2014 09:02 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 08:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 05 2014 08:50 Vivax wrote:
On September 05 2014 08:46 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 05 2014 08:19 Vivax wrote:
Well when I read his posts the thing that comes to mind is: Artificial, excessively thought out. It's like he puts in a tremendous amount of effort to make them sound legitimate.


lol I've never seen "it looks like he's putting a tremendous amount of effort" as a reason to call someone scummy. If you think I'm mafia, come out and say it with a legitimate case, because you're not going to discredit my posts by calling them artificial without providing examples.

@bats, just an fyi, that Doctor Who game that you looked at, I started out as town and was converted to mafia later on in the game.

Will probably post about bunnies next.


What I mean is: You seem very focused on delivering very thought out explanations for your own behaviour in some aspects. It's like you're writing an alibi on how every time a certain specific event pushes your thoughts into a certain direction, which seems artificial. You are more focused on explaining yourself and why your thought process develops in a certain way rather than explaining why somebody else is scum.


meh, what do you think of bunnies before I give my opinion?



Currently null


Is obiwan mafia?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 05 2014 00:04 GMT
#852
On September 05 2014 09:03 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 09:03 batsnacks wrote:
On September 05 2014 09:02 Vivax wrote:
On September 05 2014 08:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 05 2014 08:50 Vivax wrote:
On September 05 2014 08:46 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 05 2014 08:19 Vivax wrote:
Well when I read his posts the thing that comes to mind is: Artificial, excessively thought out. It's like he puts in a tremendous amount of effort to make them sound legitimate.


lol I've never seen "it looks like he's putting a tremendous amount of effort" as a reason to call someone scummy. If you think I'm mafia, come out and say it with a legitimate case, because you're not going to discredit my posts by calling them artificial without providing examples.

@bats, just an fyi, that Doctor Who game that you looked at, I started out as town and was converted to mafia later on in the game.

Will probably post about bunnies next.


What I mean is: You seem very focused on delivering very thought out explanations for your own behaviour in some aspects. It's like you're writing an alibi on how every time a certain specific event pushes your thoughts into a certain direction, which seems artificial. You are more focused on explaining yourself and why your thought process develops in a certain way rather than explaining why somebody else is scum.


meh, what do you think of bunnies before I give my opinion?



Currently null


Is obiwan mafia?


Nah


Is bunnies mafia?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 05 2014 00:11 GMT
#855
On September 05 2014 09:06 kitaman27 wrote:
Heh since he is repeating questions, you probably should respond in a new post to prevent the quote change from reaching 10.

*Puts on tinfoil hat*


How does this make you feel, mr tinfoil hat?

##unvote
##Vote: batsnacks
##unvote
##Vote: kitaman27
##unvote
##Vote: Oatsmaster
##unvote
##Vote: Tehpoofter
##unvote
##Vote: Vivax
##unvote
##Vote: kushm4sta
##unvote
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi
##unvote
##Vote: mderg
##unvote
##Vote: 27ninjabunnies
##unvote
##Vote: Micchan
##unvote
##Vote: Damdred
##unvote
##Vote: The_Templar
##unvote
##Vote: 3d12
##unvote


batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 05 2014 00:16 GMT
#860
On September 05 2014 09:12 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 09:11 batsnacks wrote:
On September 05 2014 09:06 kitaman27 wrote:
Heh since he is repeating questions, you probably should respond in a new post to prevent the quote change from reaching 10.

*Puts on tinfoil hat*


How does this make you feel, mr tinfoil hat?

##unvote
##Vote: batsnacks
##unvote
##Vote: kitaman27
##unvote
##Vote: Oatsmaster
##unvote
##Vote: Tehpoofter
##unvote
##Vote: Vivax
##unvote
##Vote: kushm4sta
##unvote
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi
##unvote
##Vote: mderg
##unvote
##Vote: 27ninjabunnies
##unvote
##Vote: Micchan
##unvote
##Vote: Damdred
##unvote
##Vote: The_Templar
##unvote
##Vote: 3d12
##unvote



##Warning: batsnacks


Just so we're clear, I'm not actually voting someone right now.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 05 2014 16:14 GMT
#1024
##vote: kushm4sta
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 05 2014 16:49 GMT
#1029
On September 06 2014 01:22 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 01:14 batsnacks wrote:
##vote: kushm4sta


Seriously!

Doesn't this look like a guy who WANTS to be lynched.

Everything he has done has irked me to no end


Do you want to lynch me because you think I'm scum or because I irk you?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 05 2014 17:06 GMT
#1031
On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum?


I'm not really sure yet. I was hoping that if I voted you you'd do something scummy and then I could just keep my vote there and relax. Nothing is ever that easy though is it?

I think I am scum reading you because I don't think town!kush would be scum reading me right now. It is easier for me to believe that scum!kush wants to get rid of me because he feels like there is an opportunity. So maybe you can help me help you. What do I do to make you town read me, or at least scum read me for more satisfying reasons? Give me some hoops and I will try to jump.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 05 2014 22:41 GMT
#1081
Kush you never told me what you wanted me to do to prove I was town. You just sort of unvoted me after I asked. Am I off the hook that easy?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 05 2014 23:18 GMT
#1084
kush unvoted me but I applaud your efforts
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 05 2014 23:28 GMT
#1087
On September 06 2014 08:24 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i just looked at your filter closer pretty much.

kita leaving your options open much?


kita likes to leave his options open. This example comes to mind:

On September 03 2014 08:52 kitaman27 wrote:
List post time.

Mostly Townish

Tehpoofter - Wouldn't look into on day one due to activity. Generally agreeable.

Vivax is an incredibly lazy scum from my experience, which isn't on par from what we've seen so far, which makes me lean town. He did pick up a spot where templar seemed to change opinions about myself, which shows he is reading. Wouldn't lynch.

mderg - This is kinda silly but I'm leaning town due to "I thought a bit about how to deal with missions". The mafia team obviously wouldn't think about how to deal with the missions. It's always possible that he is mafia pretending to think about them to throw us off, but I'm not leaning that way right now.

Damdred - "I really like the idea of trying to break the mafias mission as we go towards the Eo" This quote shows interest in generating a plan, which is generally townie thing to say. Again, probably a silly thing to make a read off of, but he would have to look pretty bad the second half of the day to consider lynching.

batsnacks - "I don't know who are mafia yet" is generally something a townie will say earlier on in my opinion. Need more content.

The_Templar - Townie....I think.

obi does seem just as....blunt I suppose I'm look for....in the past games that I looked through as both alignments. I don't have a great feel one way or the other here.

Scummyish

oats is flying under the radar, which I associate with the last time he was scum that we played together. Effort seems suspect based on mentioning how he can't remember certain details multiple times. His posts make me think he has read the last 3-5 posts in the thread, picked one of them to reply to and moved on.

kush is someone I usually think is scum. Whenever I look through his past games, as soon as I think I've found a pattern, he flips the opposite alignment and I need to throw the idea out the window. His speculation about templar having to post a "long post" as a mission was really poor and I don't see that as something a town player sees as likely so I have him closer to mafia than town right now, but I'd probably want to hear more opinions from others about his overall play so far.

Micchan is definitely the low hanging fruit of the cycle. Typically I like pushing these types of lynches just as much as mafia do. I'm having trouble envisioning a scenario where he would be helpful on day three. The comment about 3d diverting attention seems sensationalized to me. His other post is a complaint without doing anything and a unnecessary defense. I might put myself in a bad spot if he flips green, but he may be my preferred lynch right now.

I want to reread 3d since there were a bunch of things he said that rubbed me the wrong way, but I want to avoid the confirmation bias. I've ignored bunnies for the most part so I will reread her as well. I remember that she was commenting about a few things way past it being relevant, but that's about it.

batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 05 2014 23:29 GMT
#1088
Bunnies also likes to leave her options open. This post comes to mind:

On September 03 2014 00:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 00:32 Damdred wrote:
On September 03 2014 00:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh and by shoot him, I mean shoot batsnacks, not 3d12. Though I might be willing to get him out of the game too.


Why are you so willing to shoot batsnacks? You even say that this is fool batsnacks in your post, it seems kinda weird you would want to shoot bats when you think hes possibly trying to get lynched..... And why would you be willing to get 3d12 out of the game? He seems awkward its true, and his read on bats is faulty (his initial reasons anyway) but does not getting him out of the game for those reasons seem a bit flimsy to you?


So a fool's win condition is to be lynched (hey, could be a mafia mission too).

Basically, I'm trying to keep all my options open. It's how I approach the game.


For all I know, we don't even have 3p or vigi. But it was just an idea. So, therefore, that's why I said shoot him rather than lynch.

As for 3d12, more of a gut read, but I don't like his posting. Sure the bs read is slightly based on that, but his posting is awkward in general.

batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 06 2014 00:23 GMT
#1104
Obiwan laying down the law. Take that mafia.

I don't even know who I'm voting for because the host lost interest after I broke his game or something. Just in case I'm still voting for kush, which I shouldn't be right now.

Feel the pressure mafia.

##unvote
##vote: kitaman27
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 06 2014 00:40 GMT
#1109
On September 06 2014 09:34 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 09:23 batsnacks wrote:
Obiwan laying down the law. Take that mafia.

I don't even know who I'm voting for because the host lost interest after I broke his game or something. Just in case I'm still voting for kush, which I shouldn't be right now.

Feel the pressure mafia.

##unvote
##vote: kitaman27


Real vote count please!!!

What made you think kush was more townie?


I forgot about a couple of his posts earlier there he was telling people to back off me when he definitely didn't have to. So, he was scum reading me, but he was telling people who voted me for bad reasons to back off. That's townie.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 06 2014 00:45 GMT
#1110
poofter 3d12 isn't mafia. Just trust me, will you? Vote someone else.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 06 2014 00:50 GMT
#1112
kitaman27 if I was right about you AND your mission d1 I am going to be really pleased with myself. I just want to throw that out there.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 06 2014 00:53 GMT
#1115
On September 06 2014 09:52 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 09:23 batsnacks wrote:
I don't even know who I'm voting for because the host lost interest after I broke his game or something. Just in case I'm still voting for kush, which I shouldn't be right now.


Here is the plan that we should take.

batsnacks is going with the idea that "the host lost interest after he broke his game", the only reason to think that is that if batsnack actually has a role related to voting that could actually involve the host being concerned about the votes.

I propose that batsnacks role claims. If he fails, we should lynch him because he is trolling about the idea that 3d put out there. There is zero reason to assume that the host is concerned about breaking the game as vanilla town.


That is really, really optimistic of you.
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