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kitaman27
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kitaman27
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For that post you pointed out, he points out all the things he disagrees with and it was followed by "my conclusion is that 3d12 is slightly green but I don't like how he thinks very much." This is an interesting read since it attempts to distinguish between the validity of his ideas and the motivations behind his posts. As mafia, I think it's really easy to point out all the bad thoughts and come to a scum conclusion as a result. He could probably do well for himself by throwing some spoilers around the quotes, but there are enough spots where he responds to posts unprompted that don't give me the detached feeling that I was referring to earlier, that always makes me suspicious of Foolishness. When I was reading on Newbie LVI, I did pick up on his habit to give thread updates to his availability, but it's tough to say how significant that is without a town example. I'm a terrible player for using the "he can't possibly roll scum 4 times in a row" argument, but that doesn't stop me from doing so  I'd rather look elsewhere at the moment. | ||
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kitaman27
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On September 03 2014 10:02 batsnacks wrote: Or we might be able to trigger a success on a vote related mission. Unlikely, too difficult to achieve without a cop claim. | ||
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On September 03 2014 10:56 Tehpoofter wrote: I disagree with some of your reads my main question to you is why does it seem like a bunch of your reads come from early in the thread. (I realize its relatively short thread but still) Like your read on kush comes from his 4th post. I feel like hes given a good amount since then so it concerns me thats where your scum read is coming from. I don't feel like he's given a good amount. I felt the argument that batsnacked looks terrible based on a potential mission is a really weak vote and everything else is a defense of himself or others. "So why is tehpoofter "top town" if he is making this horrible case on you, equating trolliness to scuminess?" This post I suppose is reasonable, but that's about it. What are you referring to when you say a "good amount"? On September 03 2014 10:56 Tehpoofter wrote: Can you expand on the Templar read? Is the response to Vivax sufficient? I don't really have anything new to bring to the table about him. | ||
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kitaman27
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##Vote Micchan | ||
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kitaman27
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On September 03 2014 21:13 batsnacks wrote: If I'm gambling, I bet kitaman is mafia and his mission is that he has to vote with the majority. ##vote: kitaman27 ![[image loading]](http://myreactiongifs.com/gifs/aceventurathumbsup.gif) | ||
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kitaman27
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On September 02 2014 14:03 27ninjabunnies wrote: So I just skimmed the thread, but is there anything specific I should look at? Did someone say batsnacks made a terrible post? Shows a lack of effort here. The thread is incredibly small that skimming is not necessary, you can read everything in 10 minutes. She asks about the batsnacks post, yet he has like 2-3 posts at this point. How difficult is it to click the filter button and give an opinion, rather than asking to be pointed to the post? The batsnack third party speculation could be a mafia mindsight if she knows he isn't scum. At one point she mentions, "why focus on missions when we should be finding mafia", yet at no point in the thread is she actually attempting to find mafia, aside from mentioning 3d in passing. When she returns to the thread, she mentions how disappointing it is the the thread is so small, yet when the thread was small, she couldn't be bothered to read it to begin with. Again, she asks about anything worth reading, instead of attempting to bring new ideas to the thread. I'd put her in my red pool right now. (Ahead of kush, maybe bumping out Oats?). I still want to reread 3d one more time, but I'm between bunnies and the M guy who doesn't post. | ||
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kitaman27
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On September 03 2014 22:00 The_Templar wrote: where can I find GIFs like that one? Go to your local VHS store, rent a 90s classic, throw it into your VCR and record it using your camcorder. Purchase a cassette I/O drive and a hard drive with at least 50 MB capacity. Connect to the tubes using your dial-up modem, wait at least 10 hours for upload, and you've got the perfect gif for responding to absurd votes like this one. The explanation is so bad here that I'm struggling to determine whether a mafia could be so bold to use that as their reasoning or if a town player could be that paranoid. -_- | ||
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kitaman27
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On September 03 2014 21:50 27ninjabunnies wrote: Anything special happened? On September 03 2014 21:13 batsnacks wrote: If I'm gambling, I bet kitaman is mafia and his mission is that he has to vote with the majority. ##vote: kitaman27 Thoughts? | ||
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kitaman27
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@Vivax do you still think we are both buddies? Maybe give us a percentage of how likely you think that is right now? If not, who is worse? | ||
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On September 04 2014 02:10 batsnacks wrote: He's given a lot of effort to this cutting the day short idea. I think he feels strongly about it. I don't think cutting the day short or even talking about cutting the day short is pro-town. On September 02 2014 10:33 kitaman27 wrote: On second thought, people aren't really reliable enough to be around and now that the day is a few hours old, its not really worth discussing policy like that which isn't incredibly important so I say we should probably just drop the idea. On September 02 2014 11:31 kitaman27 wrote: @Templar, if you read my earlier post I did say to drop it for that exact reason. I don't feel that setup speculation is worth talking about anymore. I've given a lot of effort towards the idea? When templar asked me to talk about it more, I declined. In the exact post that you quoted and bolded as evidence that I felt strongly, I told everyone to drop the idea. Am I getting trolled or something? | ||
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kitaman27
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Modkills don't happen until day 3 so I don't think that's a valid reason to let him live either. | ||
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On September 04 2014 02:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote: What the fuck are you doing this game? Clearly not caring. | ||
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kitaman27
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I'm hoping that I'll be around for the last 5 minutes of the day, but I'm not sure how long it will last. | ||
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On September 04 2014 13:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Kita come on dude, you can do better than that I'm still pretty annoyed that Micchan wasted our time like that. We'll never hear from him again and he could probably care less. I suppose it's part of the game though. I try not to get too worked up over a things so I took a break this evening. Unfortunately, I can't "do better than that" this night cycle with a busy workday tomorrow, but if I don't get shot, things should be much easier once the weekend hits. I trust you to cover for me tonight Oats  | ||
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kitaman27
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The last few games I've played, I've found that the players that were in my blind spot were actually much more likely to flip mafia than the players that have done something widely thought as scummy. So this game I've tried to pay extra attention to these individuals. At first, that person was Oats. He said a few things that make me want to believe he is town, though I suppose he has played enough games that he knows what to say from the other side. Damdred, mderg, bunnies, and obi would be the other players that fits into this category. I've started reading through their filters, up I'm up against the clock. I wrote the post on batsnacks first, which probably wasn't the greatest time management on my part since I don't have much to say about anyone else yet. mderg looks like lynch bait. I want to say town, but he really needs to post more if he doesn't want to become a liability. I looked through damdred for quite a while since I felt that he was pretty bland, but I don't have a conclusion on him. bunnies I was leaning mafia on, but I'll definitely spend more time on her if I survive. batsnacks I want to bring up his case against myself again, because it's contents is so incredibly ludicrous that I'm baffled that he can end the day bragging that his vote "was in an excellent spot and that he stands by his decision." Like in the 50+ games that I've played, this honestly might take the cake as the most illogical case I've seen against myself. On September 04 2014 02:10 batsnacks wrote: I just wanted to see what people would do if I posted an I Ching reading. I was also curious what the reading would be. The I Ching is useful in gaining insights. This is unrelated to the actual case, but he starts off with this. Anyone notice that he doesn't actually attempt to show in any way what insights he actually gained? Same thing with the random vote on Templar. I actually wasted some time doing a text comparison on google from what he posted and the actual text. There was a small section missing, but nothing significant, so this was mostly time wasted on my part. On September 04 2014 02:10 batsnacks wrote: He's given a lot of effort to this cutting the day short idea. I think he feels strongly about it. Now take a look at what he finds suspicious about myself. He thinks that I feel strong about the lynch idea. In the exact post that he is quoting, I state not only that I've decided to drop the idea, but I also state how it's not important enough to discuss any further. When Templar asks me about it again, I said I dropped it and that was it. So how does batsnacks come to the conclusion that I feel strongly about the idea when in the paragraph below I'm calling it unimportant. Is he even reading the quotes that he is bolding or is he only skimming the first sentence? Next, he comes up with the suggestion that I'm on a mission by providing the following evidence: On September 04 2014 02:10 batsnacks wrote: Look at these posts, he has been going after easy majorities since the very beginning: He said this when I was the vote leader. At this point, it's around 20 hours into the game and batsnack's only has his troll post to his name. He has two whole votes against him and I call for him to start posting. On September 04 2014 02:10 batsnacks wrote: Now he's going after micchan because micchan is the new majority leader. Again, Micchan has a total of two votes at this point. How does he take these top suspicions and conclude that I'm a scum player who must vote with the majority. Even worse, he believes it with confidence. In both examples he picked out, the vote was at 2 players out of 13. I could vote for essentially any player in the game and it would be close to a majority at that point because no one was voting. How does this apply to me and not every other player in the game? Why aren't the 5th or 6th vote on Micchan also mafia on a majority mission? Why is he pointing out that I'd like to see a few votes on batsnacks, but totally ignoring anything I find suspicious of 3d, kush, or bunnies. The first thing to come to mind is that he comes to a conclusion and then attempting to find evidence that fits the conclusion. I've dealt with a fair amount of paranoid townies before, but batsnacks is so confident that he is right, mentioning as if it's a fact that I'm mafia, without attempting to interact with me or pushing people towards lynching me. In fact, it had to be incredibly obvious that I wasn't getting lynched this cycle. Imagine if you're in his shoes. You're dead set that I'm on a mafia mission to vote with the majority. You know you can't get me lynched. What do you do? You convince town to force me to vote outside the majority. It wouldn't have changed the outcome, and as a mafia player, if I were to fail a mission, it would mean my death. That's just as good as a lynch. He didn't even bother asking. In the meantime, while he is running around with his head cut off, he never even gives an opinion on Micchan. I really hope he is scum because the alternative would be pretty frustrating. The fact that he is so confident about such a bad case, leads me to think red | ||
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kitaman27
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On September 05 2014 06:11 Tehpoofter wrote: Anyone around to interact with? I'm about to drive home so I can't chat now, but I remember kush caught me as scum once for asking this exact question. | ||
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