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On August 21 2014 21:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Pshhh you say that but rolling scum with me is a guaranteed win. It will be if I also roll scum because I have 100% win ratio after five games played  Not because I played well, though, I just have this win aura | ||
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5 games total, WoS. 4 town and 1 mafia. | ||
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Then I'll die to the SK. I'm sure of that. | ||
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On August 22 2014 07:13 Xatalos wrote: You will be *scummy* though As always, because I tried to emulate my town play and almost got lynch, which implies that my town play is scummy. | ||
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On August 22 2014 10:54 turtlevine wrote: wos asked some questions aboove thinking there'd be people they'd shove but as we can see no question's worthy just tell them those posts get no love! there's no harm at the start realistically in talking about no-lynch strategy it's no good this game which is really a shame it kills a way for scum to talk for free! these posts give alignment of null-tell just don't use them as a casemaker as well not for town or for scum, i'm telling you chum this chatter lives only in the echo of the starting bell! Hi marv or holyflare I thought this game would start tomorrow at 2pm, not now. I guess the post preview I made with the "time" code sent me the wrong deadline. Robik, I'm town this time, I hope we can get along. | ||
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On August 22 2014 11:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Hi What did you do to make yourself glow? Ate a family of fireflies. Every single family member. Why waves of shadow instead of waves of light? What do you think of Kelsen (I'll call him Kelsen, it's easier to remember) avoiding my question? | ||
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On August 22 2014 11:14 WaveofShadow wrote: Also turtle is neither marv nor holyflare. I hope it's prome. I don't know who's Prome but I bet it's marv here. | ||
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On August 22 2014 11:17 KelsierSC wrote: Ok so you have nothing useful. I am going to give my reads so far. I like Robik as top town so far. I don't know him personally but I don't think mafia comes out early and calls someone stupid. Kind of like dam because he seemed to actually read a bit deeper into my first post. I like turtle because of his poem and he tried to focus town away from useless discussion. I wouldn't lynch these 3. Wave and Bear both seem kind of useless and weak so far and I would happily kill either of them You're basically saying that you read Robik as town because he is rude and Turtlevine because he is a poet. Then you read me and WoS because we are useless on the second page of the thread. If you do not answer the question you are avoiding it. It's that simple. And there is no possibility of no lynch because it is plurality lynch. | ||
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On August 22 2014 11:26 KelsierSC wrote: Your question was bad and pointless. I don't have to answer pointless shit. You are oversimplifying the reads. I gave more detailed reasons for reading them town. I dont think mafia are that rude early in the game. Inside Turtles poem he was basically trying to force town back on track which I think is town orientated. Either way this is enough town play for me to give them a d1 pass. You bringing up this shit question you asked is derailing town. Kind of useless. So you think Turtlevine is town because he is trying to get town away from useless discussion you've brought? Awesome, you really don't want to tell us your experience in the game. Ask me a better question, then. You seem to understand a lot. | ||
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On August 22 2014 11:30 Damdred wrote: His question was not pointless or bad really, he wanted to know your experience with mafia as a whole. I would of phrased it have you played any mafia on this site or what games have you played. Also its not useless because it gives people a better idea of how to read you No offense to Rob but hes always...not rude but probably blunt is a better word for him, and I don't really think its alignment oriented. All I saw was Robik being Robik. I don't get it how anyone would give a top town pass to him just because of that. | ||
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On August 22 2014 11:36 KelsierSC wrote: Yes I have played mafia before. I didn't like the way the question was asked though. Yeh I havent played with Robik before I might reevaluate that read but he is still towny to me, What on the way I questioned you didn't like? WoS, if you think the players here suck, it's up to you to do something good or funny, then. | ||
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On August 22 2014 11:45 KelsierSC wrote: So I probably misinterpreted what you meant but it felt like you attempting to laugh at me or discredit me. Just the phrasing was insulting. But not in the up front insulting way that Robik did. Anyway I like Bear as more town now, seems to be trying to read people a bit more and telling WoS to do...anything is good. Be good to hear more from yamato apart from looooool Oh, now I get why you looked so upset. No, I'd never do that. I really think that, depending on your experience on the game, the reads on you may vary, considering your entrance. | ||
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On August 22 2014 11:46 WaveofShadow wrote: It's not that, it's just I want to blast KSC for how generic he's playing and how wrong that ultimately makes him but I actually want to have fun in this game so I'll wait for other people to do it for me/ignore him for now so I don't have all the fun sucked out I'm fun, specially at parties. Talk to me | ||
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On August 22 2014 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote: K townpile then. If you had to pick a scummer based on people who have posted right now, who and why? Also who in this game have you played with before? I've played with Rayn, Robik, Xatalos, Damdred and Yamato. To early to pick, I still have to decide if Kelsen is town paranoid or mafia tryhard. And I'd like to hear about damdred, you've brought I good point from him. But if I had to pick one, I'd pick Kelsen | ||
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On August 22 2014 12:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Wasn't talking to you, honey. GB you think of all the people here KSC is most likely to be scum despite the fact that you can't tell if he's tryhard town or scum? No one else has done anything potentially scummier than KSC's tryhardiness? (This isn't rhetorical) Nope. As I said, it's still early to tell, we need people posting. I can only have a read on Kelsen because he is posting a lot. The second highest poster is me. If Robik was a smurf I would call him scum, tho. But he is Robik and he is acting like Robik, regardless his alignment | ||
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On August 22 2014 12:03 WaveofShadow wrote: GB what do you know about yamato? Damdred, I wouldn't mind an answer from you actually as to the question I asked GB. Robik, keep bein' Robik. Actually I want to go look up a scumgame of yours. Can you link/name one for me? I know nothing about Yamato. Played with him once, he was blue and I was mafia. He had like... 5 posts. Impossible to read him. @Damdred what aren't you seeing? | ||
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On August 22 2014 12:10 Damdred wrote: @Gb you said most likely to be mafia out of those posted talk to me why its him (1)He is too aggressive page 1. Being aggressive is a town play, but being too aggressive with too little information sounds scummy to me or beginner's paranoia. I was like that when I was a newbie and I did that last game against Rayn when I was mafia. (2) his entrance is a tcontributing post which doesn't days much actually. He could be trying to look contributive while being mafia. (3) free town passes. He gave a town pass to Robik but didn't to WoS and they were in the same level of "rudeness". Tbh, those three items post on WoS were valid, but WoS is an easy target if you consider all those items already in the beginning of day 1. | ||
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On August 22 2014 12:14 WaveofShadow wrote: I meant the other question I asked GB about if you had to pick one scum so far. Sorry that wasn't clear I guess. GB probs town btw. Sorry, still not clear, my reading comprehension is bad. Are you asking my read on Yamato? Like, if he would be in my scumpile? I'd that is so, I'd say not yet, because I can't read Yamato at all lol. | ||
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On August 22 2014 12:25 KelsierSC wrote: Being aggressive is basically how I get my reads as town. Apparently this counts as tryhard but if I am rubbing people the wrong way this early then that probably makes me town. The tryhard town read on me is correct. I already explained my town passes is a d1 style of mine it is easier d1 to give someone a town pass and see who is left. I also want to explain what was different about Robik and WoS. So robik was the first guy to basically say "you are stupid" which I actually read as town. only after Robik did WoS come at me and it was like just 3 nothing questions to derail town with. After that his rudeness was just almost like evasive and not contributing in anyway. stuff like posting a gif file, or asking for the SK to kill me. Recently he has been a bit more active but it almost feels forced. He basically asked everyone to give a scum read, an easy way to seem active. and then asked Gb about yamato, who has only said looooooool. Like I think there were better questions to ask. Bolded part is an okay explanation. I also said you have valid points regarding WoS, but it looks to early to push that hard. I understand you said it is your town play style, but I have to have my own interpretations of what you do. You can begin to ask better questions now, instead of WoS | ||
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On August 22 2014 12:37 KelsierSC wrote: So for me I am waiting for some new players to kind of start playing and give an interpretation. I want yamato to give anything apart from his lol post. You won't get much from Yamato. Check the games he has played and you'll see that he is not talkative regardless his alignment. Can you tell me why do you feel I'm town? I guess you already said that but I didn't get it clearly. | ||
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On August 22 2014 12:41 KelsierSC wrote: GB you haven't given a read on Robik yet, all you said is that you don't know how I gave him a town read. I said about Robik while talking to WoS. The way he is playing until now says nothing about his alignment. It's like he hasn't started playing yet. I have a null read on him. | ||
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On August 22 2014 12:45 Damdred wrote: I don't think he's as easy a target as those points you pointed to. Point three is possibly the best one the rest are applicable right at that time but idk if it is now. i like he was trying to get people talking and interacting it helps town atmosphere but i wish he would of said before he left who he had leaaning scum like he asked us. So is he WoS or WoS? | ||
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On August 22 2014 11:53 Damdred wrote: Your right I am here and reading, last game I played started right after work or during work like this one did I came home and made awkward posts that made me look bad, so instead i'm looking bad for not being awkward I like this! I bleed green my friend, and i'd never lie to the shadows Just so you know I don't like this post. It's like, I don't know, you're trying to say you'll always look bad? I don't know, it doesn't look like coming from a town Damdred. This alone won't tell me your alignment but I have to register it here. | ||
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I bolded it so you guys don't come and say: lol look at GB he is lurking LOLOLOLOLOL Rayn, you know I'm town, embrace me if you're also. | ||
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It seems like this is the game I'll find 12 people scum and 1 townie. Awesome. | ||
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Xatalos, why are you repeating what people are saying? | ||
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On August 22 2014 21:29 IAmRobik wrote: It was most certainly forced. You have this weird unfounded hardon for GB as town 2 seconds into the game and it's completely unfounded and unwarranted. I don't even care about the WOs read as much as the GB one. Pretty sure your saying the GB thing because you know he's town and the only way you know that is if you're mafia I'm obviously town this game. | ||
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On August 22 2014 21:32 justanothertownie wrote: There are at most 4 pages since you posted dude... Phew. Alright. I'll read it. | ||
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On August 22 2014 19:22 Xatalos wrote: GB should probably be higher than WOS btw. Just forgot to change the points while editing GB. Like when you already give high points to your mafia partner before writing things about players? | ||
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On August 22 2014 21:59 WaveofShadow wrote: Which is absolutely fucking retarded, by the way. If Xat and I were both scum I can say with absolute certainty there is NO WAY IN HELL I would let him call me top town based on essentially nothing. Hell I don't think Xat would even be so bad as to try that on his own either. Scum NEVER give each other massive townreads like that. It's completely unheard of. Kinda curious as to why you'd think Xat and I are both scum GB. Is it because we are the only people even slightly under the gun right now and you need to feel useful? I think Xatalos is scum because his play in this game is different from the games I played with him. That list post doesn't fit him. His vote on damdred was awkward. His +4 points on you were awkward. I like to feel useful | ||
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Come back to the topic. I don't like your 1 post goodbye ppl luv ya. | ||
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On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE but still It don't fit. Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now? Are you talking about me? Asking if Xatalos is giving high points to a possible partner does not really means I believe you're scum. I'm more interested in his answer. If I'm about to affirm something, I'll use ".", not "?". | ||
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On August 22 2014 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Xatalos has done listposts as town before this game. After he created Mafia Tools. That's a really bad reason to scumread him. I'm considering the games I've played with him and it's not that he simply gave also post that makes him scummy. That list post isn't good. Also answering Kelsen: he is much more lost and considering every option when he is town. He is always like "gonna vote him... Oh no he is making more sense. Gonna vote this one... Thinking about it again,that other guy sounds more scummy". He decided to vote on damdred out of nothing, it seems, and is focusing in defending himself instead of giving more reads, as I think he would do as town. | ||
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On August 22 2014 23:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well JAT covered that already. I didn't think i should answer it anymore. I don't read posts from people who i think are town and who i consider "worthless" because it does not help me find mafia. Especially posts about me. Sorry Xatalos but i think you are quite worthless at the start of the game, maybe for smth like 15-20 first hours. Same goes for Damdred. I do not read his posts properly until he starts posting properly. If that does not happen then my read might change. Why are you so benevolent here to allow them to try to post more appropriate instead of actually push them? | ||
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On August 22 2014 23:36 Xatalos wrote: Specifically I like that you mirrored my own notes in how GB felt towny early on and has fallen from grace a bit in the recent pages. I want to punch you in the fucking face for saying something like that. I said this was a busy day for me. I even bolded it so you wouldn't skip that motherfucking post. | ||
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On August 22 2014 23:54 Xatalos wrote: Btw why is your vote on turtlevine instead of me, your strong scumread? He knows the game is going on, post a shitty poem then perma lurks. I need him posting right now. Robik, if you think I'm faking emotions, you should watch Mexican soap operas so you can understand the difference. | ||
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On August 22 2014 23:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: So far were doing good. We are not lynching me, KSC, JAT or Robik in any case. Because we are town. Hapa and Onge have not postesd yet so there is at least one scum in active players. I am leaning scum on Wave and Glowingbear, strongly. Is there anyone who thinks they are town? You WHAT? Give me one reason I'm scum. | ||
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On August 22 2014 23:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because it does not help me finding mafia. Why are you concerned about the fact someone townreads you? Are there no reasons to townread you? This is your guess? Because if someone town reads another person, he needs to say why. I'm trying to get information out of him. What would be my scum motivation behind it? | ||
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On August 22 2014 13:02 GlowingBear wrote: Okay guys, I'm going to sleep. Tomorrow will be a busy day, so I won't be nearly as active. I bolded it so you guys don't come and say: lol look at GB he is lurking LOLOLOLOLOL Rayn, you know I'm town, embrace me if you're also. I was addressing this motherfucking post. You think I have no right to be mad to be scumread because I'm not posting as much as I yesterday? | ||
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So you're disregarding every attempt of mine of pushing people yesterday? | ||
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On August 23 2014 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: imo Xatalos (and Damdred) weren't calling you mafia because you didn't post. He called you mafia because your recent posts were bad as fuck. I'll shut up and post when I can read the thread properly, then. I'm trying to give thoughts based on what I've skimmed. If you think I'm mafia because of that single question, you're wrong. | ||
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On August 23 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Of course I am not. Although you'll probably be paranoid about it until N1 start. It you manage to mislynch me I bet he will be more than paranoid after n1. | ||
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On August 23 2014 00:32 justanothertownie wrote: Why the defeatist attitude? Jesus. "If" I never give up. | ||
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On August 23 2014 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Just read the thread, play the game and stop whining. I won't read the thread properly today because I am busy. I'm actually playing while lunching and I'll head to work. But from what I read, I still think Xatalos is scum because he is following people, mostly, without bringing very original thoughts, and I think you might be scum for (1) asking them to post properly instead of pushing them and (2) pushing and easy target like me, disregarding my early day one. It was hard for you to vote for Xatalos but easy to pick an usual question from me. | ||
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On August 23 2014 01:05 justanothertownie wrote: Maybe you are right. I respect his scumplay too much to townread him that easily though. Regarding Robik's post, Rayn is already self aware of that. You're not the first to point out that scum tell of his. | ||
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On August 23 2014 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wave what is your reasoning for not scumreading GlowingBear? What you are doing right now is just trying to discredit me for no reason. It makes no sense to me because what i have said is basically "i have no fucking idea who you think is mafia and why" and "what you say is not making sense to me". The way to conter it is to start making sense, not to discredit someone. Everyone who pushes lynches has lead mislynches. That does not make me bad. For the record i after my break i have voted for mafia in 75% of all my day phases as town. So i am definitely not bad and if i happen/happened to mislynch you it's on YOU because YOU failed to convince the town you are town. And you voted 100% townies as mafia. Your statistic means nothing. I think you're scum this game, Rayn, and I'll read your filter as soon as I can. Heading to work now, won't be able to talk much in less than 8 hours | ||
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On August 23 2014 07:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: [/b]ILL MAKE A CASE TOMORROW BUT FUCK! Hapa is scum. He is saying shit that does not hold water. Hapa does not do that as town. EVEREVER! He said i voted for Xatalos for something i did not. My vote was on GB. [u]GB CLAIMED MASON WITH TURTLE. 'That's why i unvoted. read hapa's case, he paints this as something else and i was voting for xatalos and just "changeing my mind without any reason". REad the case!!!! hapa does not do this as town!! NEVER NVER EVER! You are scum and I've already stated that before. I'll make a case on you once I have the time. ##Vote: rayn pelican eater | ||
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On August 23 2014 07:33 Hapahauli wrote: Actually I think I agree with this. ##Unvote I'm going to step back and re-evaluate. I'll need to compare how Rayn's defense stacks up to some other games, but I'm not pleased by how Yamato buddied me and fucked off. Reading your filter while inside the taxi heading to a party I stumbled with this and I have to say this sound completely unnatural. The way you were pushing Rayn was very instensige, a post like the one you've quoted isn't enough to take anybody's attention from his top scumread. Care to explain in depth why you felt you could be wrong on Rayn? | ||
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On August 23 2014 08:39 Hapahauli wrote: The sheer persistence of spam over the last few pages. It's quite impressive. Dropping Rayn because he is spamming is like the worst shift of opinions someone who knows Rayn could have | ||
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You've brought good arguments regarding Rayn being mafia, but not centr for him being mafia. You easily dropped that bit case for things Rayn does regardless alignment. I think you're scum. | ||
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On August 23 2014 09:31 Xatalos wrote: Can you link to a game where scum rayn becomes furious at someone accusing him and goes 100% OMGUS though? Or goes into total spam mode? He did that in Neat & Tidy Mafia as town.... I'm on a phone, so I can't link but I can give you the directions to titanic IV. You were at that game. Rayn exploded on koshi | ||
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On August 23 2014 14:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: turtlevine please come in and tell people the truth. PLEASE! What do you mean with this? | ||
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On August 23 2014 14:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Turtlevine is a player who has played this game a lot. He knows Hapa. Do you know who Turtlevine is? Because I don't. Rayn, let me ask you a drunkie question: if you were going to point out who is the serial killer, who would you say? | ||
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On August 23 2014 14:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: But probably someone who doesn't want to get lynched OR shot. Like Damdred who doesn't clearly want to piss off anyone. Dont you think it could be onegu? | ||
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On August 23 2014 14:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think this conversation is useful GB. Hmm. People are quiet and we could talk about whatever we wanted. Anyway, I'll use my free time now to filter dive you. I'd love if you could start a useful conversation with me, tho. | ||
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On August 23 2014 15:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: oops just posted the quote. Hapahauli is mafia. He would never call me scum if he was town, AT LEAST not without reading the thread properly. Yes i can prove that he hasn't done so. I don't like his train of thought. I've already said that. There's much to happen between you to give me certainty. Rayn, I've almost kissed the waitress today. I thought you would like to know. I should sleep. | ||
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On August 23 2014 15:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is a very good reason i dropped my read on GlowingBear. BECAUSE HE CLAIMED A FUCKING TOWNFIRMED MASON WITH TURTLE. I get this. He could be unaware while reading your filter. I wouldn't call him mafia just for that. I would call him mafia for quickly dropping you out for an useless argument, even bringing valid points against you | ||
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On August 23 2014 15:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: you should have kissed her though. She was horrible. But I said she was beautiful and she gave us 3 free vodka shots for that. I think I would die out of coma if I kissed her. | ||
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On August 23 2014 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's not what town!Hapa does. He does not just read filters because you cannot find mafia if you are not caught up and just read filters. That dude is the probably the best town player on this site!!! I believe this. He hammered the mafia team from last palmar's game. That's not what worries me. What worries me was his quick drop on you. Sounded like mafia saying "lol let me think this straight; not good arguments. I can look scummy for that" | ||
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On August 23 2014 15:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: hahaha. you should sleep. i should also sleep because i woke up after having a "nap" for like 3 hours and i feel awful and tired atm. I'm drinking 1L coke right now. If I'll sleep I'll throw out mostly certain tomorrow. You can stop talking if you want. I still want to talk about hapa and horrible waitresses | ||
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On August 23 2014 15:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: also there is nothing valid in his points against me. No, they were valid. I also had a scumread on you. But I think I could be OMGUSing. I have to read through your indents 10 filter page yet. But I'd pick you as townie rather hapa. | ||
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On August 23 2014 15:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: I swear you they are not. Maybe for someone who does not know me well enough but for anyone who knows me they are not. Your mason partner will come in and call Hapa mafia and prove it. ^^ So, you also believe he is holyflare? Nah, I read you as town while koshi was pushing you on nest and tidy. I guess I'm much more emotionally balanced. Rayn, I couldn't catch up the thread. Can you, please, tell me your strongest scumread and why? | ||
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Sorry, if this is an example of how Rayn lacks passion in this game, it's terrible lol | ||
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On August 23 2014 20:24 Onegu wrote: We have masons? How did I get VT with scum, SK and masons and other PRs... I never roll PRs. This post of yours is horrible. Why saying you're VT? | ||
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Easy to do as scum, harmful to town, facilitates blue hunting to mafia. | ||
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On August 23 2014 22:24 Onegu wrote: He always has passion but does he believe what he is writeing? No he doesnt. You cant read his filter and tell me he believes his pushes. Why do you come to the thread, say you're good at reading Rayn and how to read Rayn, then convientely finds something on him AFTER coming up on how Rayn acts, and completely ignores the rest if the thread? | ||
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On August 23 2014 23:23 Onegu wrote: Gb and turtle can you please just tell me if your PM says that both of you are confirmed town masons? Ill read and catch up or at least skim it all over tonight. We are confirmed town to each other. I want your reads on other people here. | ||
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I'd say that town is Me, Turtlevine, Xatalos, Damdred and JAT. I don't believe there is a scenario where both Rayn and Hapahauli are town. The antagonism between them doesn't let me think they are both town aligned. Hapahauli, can you give me your read on onegu? | ||
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On August 23 2014 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not talking to scum anymore today. I have to leave in ~1h so if anyone who is colored green wants to ask something go ahead. Blame Koshi for this. Which smart things is Robik saying? I only see "lol shut up I'm town" | ||
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On August 23 2014 23:42 Damdred wrote: You know what i haven't +1 almost anyone....I'm so tired of this being thrown towards me read my filter i made original posts so fuck you rayn. How do you read Rayn? | ||
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On August 23 2014 23:46 Damdred wrote: That he's a fucking dick who's just spouting bs and not even reading the thread at this point Calm down and answer me properly I want his alignment, not his personality | ||
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On August 23 2014 23:38 Xatalos wrote: You have dodged my questions all game though. What does that make you? Besides I think I've answered everything you've asked so far. I even specifically asked you to ask me anything that is unclear to you and you didn't ask anything. On the bolded part: what is "unsmart" that makes you believe he is doing the same stunt I tried on Arnies? Also, LOL | ||
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JAT, I've being having scumreads on Robik since the beginning. Staying away from 2 town wagons is a mafia's sign of "both wagons are fine". He is the only vote on another wagon. | ||
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On August 24 2014 10:06 Hapahauli wrote: i am da best You? Like, GB is the best for noticing it was a comfort mislynch for mafia. Kthxbai | ||
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On August 24 2014 10:08 GlowingBear wrote: You? Like, GB is the best for noticing it was a comfort mislynch for mafia. Kthxbai And I did that while drunk and not reading all the thread. I'm a god. Kneel before me. | ||
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On August 24 2014 10:11 Hapahauli wrote: What are you drinking? I need to drink next time. Heineken. You're welcome | ||
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On August 24 2014 10:25 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah well aware, and I also look like shit specifically because I didn't want to switch but whatever. I'm fucking pumped and confident Tell me again you love me. I feel lonely | ||
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I can love you both. Delicious threesome | ||
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On August 24 2014 10:27 Damdred wrote: I love gb i hate i wasn't here for that Hug me. Nominate me. | ||
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On August 24 2014 10:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hi! Are you guys voting for hapa? We're voting for you day2. But I'll die this night anyway | ||
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On August 24 2014 10:57 Damdred wrote: He just killed the mafia godfather who wasn't even getting suspicion at that point, it would take some major balls to bus robik at this point in the game when could of got a mislynch in instead.... Stop it. Hapahauli sheeped me. I'm your god. Why are you saying it was hapa? | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am drunk and i have been afk. did you soot the GF? I lynched mafia godfather. It was Robik. I rock. Kthxbai | ||
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Ok people I and Rayn won't be active tomorrow, we are going to an AA meeting | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: you wasted my time and because of itt i do not care anymore. I did? Oh, Hapahauli is also dying tonight kthxbai | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: i also hat myself for misreading robert. He wasn't look townie, tho :/ | ||
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On August 24 2014 12:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: fuck you i am a cop. That's funny, I'm also a cop with my mason. We also are a one shot doctor because we took a first aid course. Btw, my check got back and I know who serial killer is and I want to say this: kill Rayn and I won't reveal your indentify until day3 | ||
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On August 24 2014 12:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Deal. Kthxbai gonna throw up and sleep maybe | ||
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Anyway, if Robik was really mafia, the probability of mafia being comfortable with those two wagons is high, but not too high. That would put Xatalos and Yamato on the townpile for now. FOR NOW. Checking who Robik called town isn't the best thing IMO. Checking reads on him is more important. Specially if there is someone who scum reads him and then oddly town reads him. We will probably find it in early day1. I'll do that later. By the way, if neither me or turtle dies tonight, night kill will be pretty informative. | ||
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On August 24 2014 22:44 KelsierSC wrote: If you read the end of D1 the switch onto Robik by Xata does not clear him in anyway. I don't think he is going to be a lynch target and the best idea is to lynch outside of the people voted on Robik. However I think studying carefully how Xat plays D2 will be highly revealing to me. Not a good plan. Last minutes switches are incredibly hard to manage. I guess we are lucky that townies switched to Robik when I brought that up. Anyway, the thing is: if townies had strong scumreads on either Yamato or Xatalos, they won't change their votes at all, specially near deadlines. The probability of lynching a townie if you only consider vote count is extremely high. But it can be used as a secondary argument. It means that if you manage to find the pattern I stated earlier AND the guy is outside the lynch target, go for it. | ||
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On August 24 2014 23:04 justanothertownie wrote: It isn't that complicated really. These people are town: GB, Hapa, turtle These are very likely town: yamato, xatalos I think Kelsier is also town. Leaves us with a pool of: damdred, WoS, Vayne, Rayn, Onegu which includes at least 2 scum and maybe a SK for the lynch day2. Why Kelsen? | ||
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On August 24 2014 23:05 justanothertownie wrote: wat I fail to see how it is informative if me or Hapa die but ok. Phrased it poorly. It was intended to sound like: "now that Robik is confirmed mafia..." I'll explain why it is informative near deadline, when they cannot change their votes. | ||
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On August 24 2014 23:42 Damdred wrote: Why is everyone trying to explain everything for xatalos? Its quite annoying frankly I'm not a idiot i understand why it has to be the people who didn't go to robik. I didn't ask for that explanation i asked him why those three and to develop cases. @Kel but why switch to yamato you had just as strong a scum read onxata and you thought both were mafia indeed you gave xata a lot more attention in your filter than qnyone else and the chances of his lynch were decent.... Damdred, my darling, you have to use commas more frequently <3 | ||
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On August 22 2014 11:17 KelsierSC wrote: Ok so you have nothing useful. I am going to give my reads so far. I like Robik as top town so far. I don't know him personally but I don't think mafia comes out early and calls someone stupid. Kind of like dam because he seemed to actually read a bit deeper into my first post. I like turtle because of his poem and he tried to focus town away from useless discussion. I wouldn't lynch these 3. Wave and Bear both seem kind of useless and weak so far and I would happily kill either of them Lynch him. Early town pass for Robik with shitty reasoning / n1 says we should focus on people who are not in Robik's lynch when everybody agrees that this solely isn't a good option. | ||
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On August 25 2014 00:45 KelsierSC wrote: Seemed like a good reason to me. This was really, really early in the game and it seemed like Robik was town. This is how you look to me while reading my scumread on you: ![[image loading]](http://31.media.tumblr.com/1dd50d27f23d4eb8faf5ac4f47958f4f/tumblr_msj0qcCVUT1qcg5mio9_250.gif) | ||
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On August 22 2014 20:30 IAmRobik wrote: Rayn/jat: do you think wos and xata are mafia together? + Show Spoiler + it should be obvious from my question that I don't Someone help me here. What is a scum motivation of saying this? | ||
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On August 25 2014 02:54 Xatalos wrote: Hmm. Well there's still 1h time then, but I guess everyone can't be around for that hour. What? I thought deadline was at 9pm? | ||
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On August 25 2014 04:33 Xatalos wrote: Not much point to delay this topic since Robik is dead anyway. This is the read I had on Robik before he died (haven't yet updated MafiaTools since then, will do it now): IAmRobik 1 Casually townreading people etc. just feels a bit towny, probably - and casually claiming town + posting stuff... we'll see, been really AFK for long now The points went like 1 (limiting his options by townreading people freely) -> 2 (claiming town felt like a thing that only town would naturally do and scum might execute as a meta strategy, but it was less likely) -> 1 (after being AFK for long and not doing anything for a while). Do you really, really believe in what is in bold? Do you seriously believe that is alignment indicative? | ||
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On August 25 2014 04:49 Xatalos wrote: My notes on yamato77: yamato77 3 said nothing noteworthy yet - well started making some jokey posts so town? very lurky though which is scummy for him - re-entered the thread with vengeance and has been very townish, I'd say even obvtown level pretty much - Hapa made some good points about him lacking confidence and going on lurking periods though - still (actively?) lurking and posting here and there... gave up exactly like in the PYP game ALERT ALERT - went on to vote & kill Robik though and started actually doing stuff so probably town after all The points went something like this 0 -> 2 -> 0 -> 4 -> 2 -> 0 -> -4 -> 3. :D I still wanted to lynch yamato before the deadline over Robik (granted I started to have slight doubts after yamato suddenly activated close to the deadline), but GB voted for me and said he would vote for me if Robik didn't go through, so I just voted for Robik and hoped for the best. It was a bit of a mess during those final minutes and I thought Robik hadn't really done anything to deserve me risking somehow getting lynched instead of yamato (although it was still possible that yamato could be lynched since Hapa & jat wanted to avoid getting me lynched). A bus was claimed. | ||
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I'm driving right now so I can explain it now. I'll do it later | ||
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You don't think like that? I don't habe the time to do it before the end of night one but I'll totally dive them and show you they're mafia. | ||
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On August 25 2014 10:06 WaveofShadow wrote: Good, then maybe I can actually devote some time to Damdred. Let's join forces for now, hmm? ##Vote: VayneAuthority Turtle/GB I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the NK and Rayn JAT was obviously town. Mafia shot him. Rayn was shot by SK. Mafia was scared of a possible medic, that's why neither me or turtle got killed. But I think that if my reads were on spot I wod have being killed. It means that Kelsen is probably not mafia. But I believe Kelsen could be SK. It fits his entrance and it explains SK kill (it would make me read him as town because I made two posts saying them both are scum, associating them. A way to draw attention off him. He was aware of my post). | ||
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On August 25 2014 10:40 VayneAuthority wrote: ill get this out of the way and claim then since it will make the game considerably easier imo. im a jack of all trades, have the option to cop check, roleblock, or watch some one. Can only use 2 of the three. Last night I RB'ed damdred so he cant be the SK, but could be the mafia that didnt turn in the kill. Will probably use my cop check tomorrow on some one else but I dont think it will matter This claim stinks | ||
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On August 25 2014 11:02 Hapahauli wrote: Why on earth wouldn't you use your cop check first? EXACTLY! And it's easier to say you've roleblocked someone than to say you've got a cop check while mafia. | ||
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On August 25 2014 11:43 Damdred wrote: Well if you blocked me and the sk didn't act its pretty apparent i'm red, but can't tell on mafia Couldn't understand you. Two people died tonight | ||
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On August 25 2014 11:56 Damdred wrote: It was an add on to my above post, If he blocked me and there was no sk shot (hypothetical situation) then it would be decently clear and a good lynch on me. If he blocked me and the two kills still went through (hypothetical) then nothing was gained from the block just that I was not the sk. However, If he would of Cop Checked me instead the thread would know for sure if I was red or green due to the information being complete rather than partial Got it. You're questioning his claim, then. It stinks. | ||
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On August 25 2014 12:09 Damdred wrote: Yes the claim stinks. If he had actual useful information then his timing of the claim would look better as of now if the claim is true all we know is that I am not the Sk. So you open yourself up for the night kill just so you can tell the thread, "Hey guys Damdred isn't the Sk but he still could be mafia". I do not see the thought process behind the claim at all or a valid reason to claim a few hours into the day cycle, since honestly the vote swing would of probably went away from Vayne. The PR claim in itself is interesting, I like roles like this I love seeing them in the game but it just does not make logical sense with what we know about the game at this point. We know that their are claimed Masons whos alignment is confirmed to one another, we have JAT as a JK. The powers just do not make a lot of sense to me. Tbh his role makes sense. Check Robik's pm. There is surely a tracker on the game. What doesn't make sense was his timing and his skill option. | ||
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On August 25 2014 12:32 yamato77 wrote: As for the claim, I find it rather useless. That claim is SO wrong that I'm considering town reading it because no mafia would do that LOL | ||
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We are wasting our times trying to decide who is SK before deciding who is mafia | ||
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On August 25 2014 23:29 yamato77 wrote: au contraire, killing the SK now is an amazingly good play. It gives town double the effective time to solve the game. Killing is good but identifying the SK is nearly impossible. He is just a mafia without partners. He will probably try to kill mafia so he won't get shot. Mafia will try to kill townies that are right on their reads or, if people are too dumb, they will try to kill SK so they won't take the risk of getting killed. Let them both chase themselves. Just scum hunt for alignment indicative posts. The fact is, scum hunting with the help of the flip is better than being incapable of doing associations with the flip (SK case) | ||
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On August 26 2014 10:42 KelsierSC wrote: If top town don't think Xata is the lynch that is fine but I just wanted my point of view out there ##Unvote ##Vote Onegu Horrible shift, man. Horrible. Just because top townies says they don't think Xat is mafia, why would you change your vote solely on that? If you have a scum read, you have to push it firmly! How's people judging VA's claim now? I've just got home, can't catch up because I'm awfully tired. | ||
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On August 26 2014 11:31 yamato77 wrote: I love how damdred and wave were Hapa's top scumreads in the night and now they are top town with me to everyone else. 0% chance Hapa is suddenly this bad of a player just because of a break. Also 0% chance we lynch VA today. That claim sucks. He says he wasted his roleblock and nullifies his cop heck and track because mafia probably have a roleblocker. Tbh I think it's impossible that they don't have it. Nothing is ok on that claim. I'll lynch him without second thoughts and if he flips blue I will blame him for bad play. By the way ##Vote: VayneAuthority | ||
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On August 26 2014 11:37 WaveofShadow wrote: You're not a smurf, right? 'Cause I am consistently impressed with your play and attitude----it meshes really well somehow with people who have been playing here for years. Yamato just because you feel like being ballsy doesn't mean hapa is necessarily the right lynch. Hahaha no, I'm not a smurf lol. I'm just still pumped that my drunk play killed a mafia and being arrogant because I'm confirmed town for being mason. I'll soon do a gross mislynch and get back to my humility | ||
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On August 26 2014 11:41 WaveofShadow wrote: Well if you're here, what do you make of your mason partner's shockingly terrible play in your absence? Haven't catch up already, so I don't know what he has being saying. What's wrong with his play? | ||
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On August 26 2014 11:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I'll let you decide. Come back to me when you're caught up. I'll read his filter if that's ok, because I'll totally NOT read the thread today, I'm too tired | ||
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On August 26 2014 11:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I'll let you decide. Come back to me when you're caught up. Just read his filter and it seems like an ok play. He's just not too involved in the game. He is confirmed town to me so it would be too host WIFOM to mason us, confirm us both as town and make him scum... I don't get you why were you asking that to me. | ||
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On August 26 2014 12:28 WaveofShadow wrote: I was just wondering if he was acting all wonky and not reading shit under your orders or something. 'Making plays' or some shit. I hate that. Do YOU think it's a good play right now for blues to claim? Oh I was writing and my battery died  I think Turtlevine is influenced by things we discuss in the thread. There is no orders given and he doesn't really need to think like me as we aren't hydra. I think we may have a compatibility of reads. Now, I don't think it's a good time. Why would they? To make more certain VA is mafia? Then they get killed night 2. Awful trade. Although I HAVE to admit that VA's claim could be legit. The timing doesn't fit with mafia motivation (he was under a little, but too little pressure to fake claim, and it would confirm him town, so townies wouldn't waste their times trying to read him), and his skills fits with the existence of a Godfather role and its role PM. But the usage of skills is AWFUL and him nullifying his other skills by letting him die/being roleblocked is an awful play. It just fits a role that was built by mafia so they don't get questioned when they can't use their skills. | ||
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On August 26 2014 12:57 WaveofShadow wrote: Well technically many claims made by mafia could be covered up (ie cop check on Rayn for example) but I personally think the idea of JoaT with JK and confirmed masons is OP and impossible. As for Vayne's role use----his role use as town actually IS known to be fucking terrible (see I swear this is normal mini where Vayne did some absolutely retarded shit after getting a KP midgame for example). I don't think that's enough to give me pause however. Pretty balanced considering scum has 2 kill points each night and masons are completely powerless to catch mafia. Regarding you second question: not good to claim blue. You seem to like this idea. Why? Hapa is my second target. Btw, hapa, what do you think of lynching VA? If you already answered that, could you ease answer again? I'm going to sleep now. | ||
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On August 26 2014 13:04 Damdred wrote: I guess then i have nothing worth talking about so ill just go away now. And honestly I've stood by my not lynching into an un ccd blue and i won't move from that. so i guess ill come back to vote later then Damdred, how in the hell someone would CC such a rare role? Almost impossible. | ||
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On August 26 2014 13:08 VayneAuthority wrote: I mean I gave my reasoning for why I used my powers how I did, not sure what else I can do on that front.Misplaying my role in your eyes doesnt really have anything to do with making me scummy, or we would lynch oatsmaster every game. It's actually the main reason. And cl aiming now nullifies all your other really important skills. Why doing that? | ||
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1) Timing his claim was on early day one and sucked a lot of attention. Why mafia would do that in such timing? 2) Pressure he was under too little pressure to desperately fake claim. I don't think that anyone with too little pressure would fake claim like that. 3) Time Waste his intention of not wasting time with people reading him is very good for town (although it had an opposite effect LOL) 4) Godfather's role Godfather's role fits JOAT role completely in this game, and I bet nobody checked his role at the end of night 1 | ||
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On August 26 2014 20:32 KelsierSC wrote: Sure I will lay down my reasoning. (A) At this point the vote has to be between VA and Onegu. I explained my reasons why the claim is genuine. 1)He was in a position where he did not have to fake claim. 2) He had easier outs if he was fake claiming 3) no CC Then I look at the people pushing this vote. (C)Hapa is a likely SK candidate, he wants to get rid of town at the moment. Xata is scummy as fuck and wants to ML town. (D)GB and turtle I don't think they are reading the game very well at all. I (E) wonder how deep WoS analysed the claim, he said the claim was bad mainly because VA didn't use the cop role, if you look past that though WoS you can see that no mafia would claim this strangely. All of that is in defence of the VA is the PR. So then we come to Onegu. He showed up when people were scum reading rayn and threw some other dogshit onto the fire along with...wait it was Hapa and Xat again. obviously the reads were horse shit as rayn flipped VT. Then he disappears at the time he disappears I think the pressure was on rayn and then on yamato so he had no reason to interject as town was going to ML somehow. So for Onegu he had a bad, BW read on town. . He disappeared when it appeared town was going down a bad path. A) I don't get why you assume one of they will be lynched. Easy targets. Are you trying to force us to believe we should lynch onegu? B) There was no easier out. If he claimed cop, he would be easily counter claimed by a possible cop. Who the hell would counter claim such a rare role as JOAT? C) Lol so you're hunting the SK instead of mafia, it seems. He probably is because he is not in your mafia qt right? D) you're trying to discredit our gameplay a lot. We are surely not playing this game well and I said that already, but when people talk about us they are trying to tell you that we are confirmed townies so it's easier to believe in our reads than to believe in someone suspicious. You're trying to discredit too much our gameplay. Is that because you're mafia and we were on the right path? E) This "no mafia would do" isn't good. Check my Arnie's game. ##Vote: KelsierSC You're mafia. | ||
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On August 26 2014 22:22 KelsierSC wrote: Yeh you are fucking retarded or you just don't read properly. Va or Onegu are the targets for the lynch, they seemed scummy and inactive D1, they were not there for deadline , they seemed happy to let town wonder, they did not vote on robik. He can claim JoaT and say he checked rayn during the night. Like I have said this multiple times. I am not "hunting" SK, but my top town don't trust Hapa I can believe he is the SK and I don't think SK would be wise to try and lynch mafia at this point. I KNOW SK DOES NOT KNOW if Va is mafia, but if sk is voting for VA it is more likely he thinks VA is town than mafia. Your gameplay has been bad in my opinion. In the night you read rayn and me as scum, rayn flipped town and it is fairly obvious I am town. I don't even know what you are doing today. firstly you think VA is mafia, then I hard defend VA. so you unvote Va thinking he is legit now and then say I am mafia? If I am mafia I would just push on VA. you have no logic which is why I continue to think your gameplay is bad. I don't check old games sorry, your logic in THIS GAME is just flawed I've already explained that the bolded was my trap card. It worked ok. Oh nevermind, you called me retarded, I will Unvote you now because you're right. ![[image loading]](http://37.media.tumblr.com/e4f28f57c44b2aca4f5dc2313a27045e/tumblr_miyx1jSmEv1qcakl4o1_400.gif) | ||
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On August 26 2014 22:38 KelsierSC wrote: Also I guess you didn't read this part or the other stuff I wrote that explains my reasons and blows your argument out the water. If you're mafia you know he will be useless for now on as you probably have a roleblocker and you can always kill the confirmed town by night. It's more beneficial to mafia now to force a mislynch Onegu (as it looked like you were doing considering your post) and nullify a confirmed and useless (on reads) confirmed town by night. And as you're mafia, you KNOW he is town. Easy to hard defend him. | ||
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On August 26 2014 22:37 KelsierSC wrote: What explanation I didn't see that at all I threw random names at night with no readings at all. I thought me or Turtlevine was going to die. So if I posted suspicions that were right, I would probably be killed. If they were wrong, they would probably kill Turtlevine. But they killed Rayn and JAT. This can mean two things: 1) I was wrong on both players, mafia thought masons could have the same opinion and decided to kill a confirmed townie thr was probably on the right track. Tbh I'm impressed that town didn't check his filter yet and didn't try to figure out Robik's interactions on day one. I'm not doing it because I simply don't have the time 2) I was right on you being scum and you shot Rayn so I could do this town association with you. A little WIFOM but it fits my reads on you. | ||
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On August 26 2014 22:51 KelsierSC wrote: I don't think you can ever consider what I am doing as "trying to force a ML on Onegu", I gave solid reasons why he is scum none of my reasoning was flawed. If i "push" on onegu and he is town that reflects badly on me. If I just quietly vote on VA with the rest of town and he dies then there is no suspicion on me at all because everyone thought he was mafia. I think I was the first person to hard defend VA and his claim. I had no reasons for this. It is painful when confirmed town is this shit tier. Sad shit tier is sad ![[image loading]](http://31.media.tumblr.com/7e24d9bdf9e7fcd4d05137341530ee73/tumblr_n33hcuzvj11tv4ogwo1_400.jpg) | ||
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On August 26 2014 22:53 Xatalos wrote: Btw wouldn't KSC kill you since you "scumread" him at night? Well it's all WIFOM... Too obvious right? I would be on the right track. Now we get to the second WIFOM level. I admit it wasn't a good strategy. It just fits my scumread on the top tier | ||
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On August 26 2014 23:11 Xatalos wrote: This argument is a bit too WIFOM for my taste :/ The fact remains that KSC has pushed his own views really hard and appears to evaluate his reads constantly (although with some weird methods). I don't like how he disregards things like the meta towncase on me, but that's not enough to lynch him at all... He seems more misguided than pushing a mislynch on me. It is not the basis of my scumread on him. You know I've been pushing on him since his beginning (awkward entrance, town pass for Robik, now this post I've analysed). The WIFOM was secondary and now it looks useless with so much scenarios possible. | ||
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Hapa is probably scum tho. I remember saying that I couldn't see a scenario where both were town | ||
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On August 26 2014 23:19 KelsierSC wrote: I see no evidence of you pushing me since the beginning you voted Xat and then you voted Robik You said So how can you view me as scum. I have countered all your arguments and shown they contain no logic. I still do not understand how you can see me as scum. When I say pushing I don't say voting. I say calling you scum and asking you questions. Anyway, I think your responses were okay but they don't throw my arguments against you away. Tell me what you think of hapa. | ||
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On August 26 2014 23:25 Xatalos wrote: I don't think scum KSC would so casually townread scum Robik though. And awkward entrances aren't limited to scum. His entrance fits SK motivation and there is no "too mafia to be mafia" anymore for me. He gave his reasonings on why he is not scum, I am evaluating it already. Now give me a better lynch today | ||
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On August 27 2014 03:39 Damdred wrote: Will you explain to me ksc gb? I actually can't damdred. You'll have to check my filter for the reasons I've brought. I'm only be able to be here by deadline. I'm at work now... | ||
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On August 27 2014 04:01 Xatalos wrote: And it's not like there is a strong case on him + he lynched scum on D1. My drunk personality lunched scum on day1. I don't believe Rayn and Hapa could be from the same alignment, so... Kill him | ||
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On August 27 2014 05:41 Xatalos wrote: Unless you have something else in your MasonQT that you haven't mentioned yet. Nope, I don't :/ It's my fault I can't write a comprehensive case on him. I'll try to do that while at night. | ||
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On August 27 2014 06:40 KelsierSC wrote: So you don't have a case on me and won't present a case on me till the night phase...but you want town to lynch me in the day. Confirmed Town, Ladies and Gentleman, Round of Applause please. I'm at work, I can't dive you and bring a comprehensive case on you before night time.. I've already brought arguments while I believe you're scum. But you can keep trying to discredit my gameplay. | ||
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On August 27 2014 06:47 KelsierSC wrote: You haven't brought any arguments for why I am scum that is what people keep trying to tell you. I think things I've pointed out from you makes you scum. If people needs me to explain that the consequence of acting mafia is being mafia, then, yes, I have brought no arguments. | ||
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On August 27 2014 07:03 KelsierSC wrote: NO YOU HAVEN'T HOLY FUCK YOU you just said total bullshit that only half made sense and the other half I refuted easily. GIVE. ME. A. BETTER. LYNCH. Onegu will be modkilled and I won't vote VA today | ||
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He is worried A LOT on how people see him and works hard to discredit my play. When I say "give me another lynch" or "I want to kill hapa" he mostly dodges this discussion. He is not scum hunting, he is simply defending himself and using cracked math just to say LYNCH THE GUY WHO IS GOING TO DIE ANYWAYS LOL (onegu) You don't really think he is mafia? Really really really? | ||
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On August 27 2014 08:52 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm actually very slightly uneasy now that VA is where Hapa chose to park his vote especially if he never comes back. BUT I WILL STAY THE COURSE A VOTE FOR VA IS A VOTE FOR SCUM ##Vote: Hapahauli *trollface* No, really, I'm not voting VA today. | ||
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On August 27 2014 09:04 KelsierSC wrote: ##Unvote I will vote again I just want to hear what Hapa has to say. You should call him in the mafia qt | ||
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I'm not trying to say who is mafia and who is SK, I'm just trying to lynch scum (lato sensu) based on scumread | ||
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On August 27 2014 09:08 Xatalos wrote: I looked at Dessert Mini Mafia (where I was scum with Hapahauli) and I think his D2 play here is pretty similar to that game. In that game he also just listed a couple of weak(ish) "scumreads", voted for one of them and didn't do much else during D2. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/392955-dessert-mini-mafia?user=Hapahauli&page=7 The cases also look a bit similar in the sense that they just take a couple of posts from the target's filter, call them scummy and call it a day. There is no fucking WAY Xatalos is scum | ||
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On August 27 2014 09:13 WaveofShadow wrote: GB, (since apparently you've somehow become vox vocis in this game) can we please lynch VA tomorrow when he magically 'fucks up' his role usage again tonight? I... I became? Yes we can, only if hapa flips green | ||
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Because if hapa flips red I will be checking his filter to find connections. | ||
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On August 27 2014 09:32 WaveofShadow wrote: VOTE FUCKING VA THEN ##Unvote ##vote: VayneAuthority You activated my trap card. Keep your votes on Hapahauli. If he flips mafia, WoS is the first person you should look at | ||
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On August 27 2014 09:35 KelsierSC wrote: Oh didnt see this. Nah WoS has been saying vote VA all game it doesnt flip your trap card at all Yes it flips. If there is any chance of mafia switching their target from a possible partner at the end of the day AND blame someone else for it, that's what they would do. | ||
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On August 27 2014 09:39 KelsierSC wrote: ok I dont know how many 10000000 times i can say this but Hapa is not mafia at all, he is is SK or town. so partner discussion is totally moronic. Could you please ignore me? I am retarded and I don't want you to have the privilege of quoting me | ||
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On August 27 2014 09:41 WaveofShadow wrote: These preflip associations are driving me fucking crazy Please next time join a game with somebody like marv who can properly call you all morons. Not a pre flip association. I said IF he flips mafia. | ||
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On August 27 2014 09:47 Damdred wrote: Actually yes, there's still time to sway the thread and all hapa does is give a generic list to pook towny. Just i wish hap would try harder as town and dodged everything earlier wouldn't a townie at least answer why he pushed scum read 3 instead of 1 or 2 at tge time? He doesn't look town to me at all just gives up I bet he completely lost interest in the game considering the play level here. | ||
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On August 27 2014 09:48 Hapahauli wrote: Nah, I sorta lost interest because I'm not town =/ Lulwut? | ||
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I bet he is town and is just fucking with us | ||
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On August 27 2014 09:53 KelsierSC wrote: ##Vote Hapahauli A lot of people are calling Hapa SK, at best he has been disappointing town but enough of my top town going along with this gives me confidence I explained earlier that a Hapa lynch is very risky, we are guessing on SK here and if he is town and O is town then we lose. I think it is highly unlikely that they will both flip town so the worst case scenario is we have 3 confirmed town or 2 and a check which is still pretty good GB is bad I don't know what he is doing. If hapa flips green The person I need to reevaluate the most is dama WoS is clearly town, GB is unfortunately town. VA is real, Xat is scummy still , I might reevaluate but that filter is like a novel. HAHAHAHA if it wasn't for me trying to get people out from VA and people on Robik, we wouldn't have hit 2 scums day one and two. I want you dead. | ||
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Send me telepatical messages if we should kill Kelsier. If you say know, I'll vote for him anyway. | ||
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On August 27 2014 10:17 KelsierSC wrote: Also Gb everyone was voting Hapa anyway you did nothing. you are shit tier. You mean everyone was voting Hapa by voting VA? Oh, now I get it. Thanks! OH NO YOU CALLED ME SHIT TIER AGAIN ![[image loading]](http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0krnpYYQa1rrqaigo1_500.gif) | ||
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On August 27 2014 10:26 Damdred wrote: That makes me feel better but with hap naming me mafia that made me sad. And if he was really trying to help town I bet he hammered on at least the first 3. His reads on Arnie's were superb | ||
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On August 27 2014 10:33 WaveofShadow wrote: It's unfortunate that I am forced to simply because of your colour and not by the merits of your actions. You hurt me, calling me scum like that. (( but I... I glow...I didn't call you scum, I said you could be if hapa flipped mafia. You've passed the test, my love. | ||
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On August 27 2014 10:38 KelsierSC wrote: no one was voting VA by the end except WoS and Hapa (who was the other person being voted) seriously stop trying to give yourself so much credit when you have so little understanding of the game. Yeah, you're right. No, wait. You aren't. GG kthxbai | ||
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On August 27 2014 10:41 WaveofShadow wrote: But can our love truly last? Will you still be there for me when I wake upon the morrow? "It won't be eternal, as it is a flame But may it be infinite while it lasts" Vinicius de Moraes, "Soneto da Fidelidade" Poorly translated. | ||
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On August 27 2014 11:01 yamato77 wrote: thank god Thank you also. | ||
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Town: Turtlevine Yamato GB Xatalos Wave of Shadow VA Damdred Kelsier | ||
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Others are from less scum to most scum, but I'd put Damdred before VA. | ||
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On August 27 2014 11:23 KelsierSC wrote: see you have time to colour code your shit but you still can't formulate a decent read on me. don't understand your agenda unless it is to be so painfully wrong that mafia won't lynch you. Really, just make the list. It's not very time-consuming. | ||
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On August 27 2014 11:24 KelsierSC wrote: you only have one scum....can you count? It's based on way I see things, not considering set up. Jesus why are you so butthurt? | ||
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On August 27 2014 11:52 Damdred wrote: i'm goin to bed but i'll get you your list in the morning after i re read day 2 just give your gut feeling | ||
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On August 28 2014 01:15 yamato77 wrote: VA/Dam/WoS/Kels/Xat 2 Mafia, three town. I believe it's either VA and Dam, WoS and Kelsen, or Dam and Kelseb (I don't know why but I have a feeling this is more likely) I can't read Xatalos well but I don't know, he seems town for me. | ||
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On August 28 2014 01:55 WaveofShadow wrote: This is actually an interesting point, come to think of it. Mafia definitely needed the extra KP (and they had to hope Hapa directed it at town). I'll have to go back and look at some point if there was anyone who really didn't seem to want Hapa to die. You're forgetting that SK win con is to be the last man standing, so it's a scum to us and vigi to mafia, as they could be shot. It's not good to have SK alive, it's better to win by granting mislynches. | ||
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On August 28 2014 03:12 KelsierSC wrote: Alright for my first point I want to analyse Xata d2. You all know my reasons for suspecting him D1. He had no committment to any reads, then sheeped a read on rayn, then tried to force town to lynch yamato. Finally voted on Robik to save himself. Like a lot of the play was inconsistent with logic and felt scummy. So N1 & D2 I want to bring a few things to light. His main arguments for being town . He voted on Robik, this is not a good argument, it was him or Robik of course he switches to save himself. This has been explained to him multiple times, the fact he clings to this defence is scummy. The other argument is this weird meta read from Hapa, again I don't put much stock into the read. Large filter - Ok it is large but a lot of it is just repetition or confused nonsense, I don't like this play at all. I think it is scummy. I had a re read of D2 and a few things jumped out to me. Early on he had the same idea as me to lynch between VA and Onegu. But then he did some things I don't like. I pointed out my analysis of the VA claim and said he was genuine and a few other people were coming to that opinion. Pressure was building on Hapa and he said I think we just lynch VA or Onegu today. They both didn't do anything actually helpful during D1, didn't care about the lynch and voted for something random. Onegu hasn't still even catched up with the thread. VA's claim could potentially be real, so I think Onegu may be the better choice. Like at this stage in the game, it was clear VA was real, most of the thread thought so I don't think this was the right lynch at all. It seems he wants to try and force the lynch onto VA So he did vote on Hapa at the end, but it was fairly obvious Hapa had given up, furthermore he wanted to try and not lynch Hapa but I didn't really see any justification for it. VA was the safe lynch, why? I also considered this possibility but I had some mathematical (though incorrect) reasoning behind it. The point for Xata is that he had to just go along with town D2 because he had a lot of heat on him D1. I don't see any original ideas from Xata he just seemed to sheep along with the popular opinion. This is the impression I got "VA isn't real lynch him... oh maybe VA is real lets get Onu, oh maybe VA, ok lets get Hapa."Just nothing original at all and just sheeping the top town. I still read Xata as scum. Also GB reads him as town so he is almost definitely mafia. I still need to decide on WoS and Dama. LOL. If you're not mafia, I won't play for a month. If he is mafia, I won't play for 2 months. If I am wrong on both of you, I won't play the game until the end of the year. If I am right on both of you, I'll spam your inbox until you request a ban on me or I will in every game you in just to fuck up with you. | ||
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I'm pretty sure you're mafia just because you are discrediting what I'm saying. | ||
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On August 28 2014 03:41 KelsierSC wrote: you included your incredibly clever and articulate message as part of the quote. Just want to make it clear the end of that quote was not me. Oh thanks. Not easy to play using a phone. | ||
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Hapa, you're incredible at reading people. WoS and VA, well played! I have to say that your claim was kinda ok lol Turtlevine, thanks for the masoning and support. You're sexy! Kelsen, I like tortillas. | ||
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On August 29 2014 11:00 KelsierSC wrote: Xat you checked vayne night 1? or is that a mistake? After I got town I knew I wanted to play aggressive, try and get a few early town reads and lynch my scum. I think D1 I put too much analysis into who was defending who or who thought other people were scummy I think every member of town has too little information for that to be super important. in D1 I just give people a town pass for some easy things and I should probably be more rigorous than that. I guess my very first read of WoS being mafia was right though =). Still not sure what people mean by confirmation bias, is that just I think someone is scum so I start seeing scum tells that aren't real? I think I had my first lynch between Yamato and Xata so that was obviously shit, I think they had been scummy though. I probably was too tunneled on Xat, Like he felt a bit weird and then everything he did I saw as scummy. d2 again I was just between VA and Onegu. then VA claimed so I was only going to vote on one guy. ended up on hapa because top town agreed with it. d3 I was lost emotionally and that almost got me lynched , but like it was basically auto win. Obviously I need to flame less. I just couldn't believe what Turtle and GB where doing. Like they were confirmed town and they hardly posted at all then they called me mafia with absolutely no reason what so ever, that was incredibly frustrating and made me really pissed off towards dam and Xat d3. But yeh I need to maintain control of my emotions and just tell someone why they are not reading correctly and not call them an idiot. as for how other people played. JAT played such great town that he only got to play 1 day but it was a pretty sick day 1. Yam played really well after d1. Maybe he could stand to be more active in d1 especially if you are VT I read Dam as town for most of the game so he did a good job of projecting that to me. He seemed to be reading the game in a similar manner to me which made me think he was town. Xat, was really interesting for d1 and d2 I just considered him scum, but he did a great job of being scummy enough not to be NK'd and town enough to survive. I still don't know if he should have counter claimed VA on d2. I probably wouldn't have believed him though. WoS was a great mafia player, I really thought he did a great job projecting town. Maybe he should not have pointed out the Hapa being SK role because that ended up hurting mafia but I mean if it wasn't hapa probably VA ends up getting lynched I dont know. VA, his d1 seemed kind of weak. the claim was kind of bad but he wasnt counter claimed so he lived to another day. I don't know maybe his d1 needs to be more active. Robik - I think he was unlucky to be lynched to be honest. hard to really analyse him though, Hapa - again both mafia and town calling him SK he didnt have a chance, apparently it is obvious when he is not town but I don't really have a comparison. rayn - Think he played good town and got good discussion going, like he went against WoS and called Hapa as not town right from d1. maybe needed to project town more but I liked his approach it felt similar to how I play. Turtle - good at poetry GB - Won't play for a month I actually didn't have a good read on you, I just thought you're mafia because of that single post I picked to analyse. Then I decided to do a little filter dive on you and saw good posts. I was tunneled and still thought you were mafia but I knew you could be town. Your logic is pretty solid to be honest. I just wanted to lynch you because of your bad manner. I was going to stay away from mafia for a month anyway, so, lol XD | ||
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On August 29 2014 12:41 Blazinghand wrote: This post is to confirm that I am turtlevine LOL BH! Why did you support my reads so much? | ||
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On August 30 2014 00:30 IAmRobik wrote: BTW -- I claimed mafia this game -- did anyone but my teammates notice? Quote please! I didn't. | ||
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