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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 22:59 GMT
#892
On August 23 2014 07:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 07:27 Xatalos wrote:
On August 23 2014 06:00 yamato77 wrote:
Hapa picked up on the EXACT thing I picked up on.

Lol, good shit.

I want to lynch one of rayn/wave/vayne



On August 23 2014 06:01 yamato77 wrote:
xat/kels/damdred/gb all likely town

robik being robik

turtlevine is apparently confirmed to gb, so he's town

lolol ez game ez lyfe


No reasoning given whatsoever. Robik read is not a read and townread the basically confirmed towns is not that impressive either.


Hm. Well only 2 out of 8 reads are confirmed town.... But yeah there's no reasoning. I definitely want his to see his posting improve but I just don't see any resemblance to his earlier scumgame.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 23:00 GMT
#894
On August 23 2014 07:33 KelsierSC wrote:
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On August 23 2014 07:31 Xatalos wrote:
On August 23 2014 07:30 KelsierSC wrote:
I think Dam is town for D1 and there are better lynches.

So I was going to add that All vayne has done was make some dumb jokes and then tell people they have derailed the game or you have messed up the thread ahhh. without really giving reads himself and i didn't like that.

But now I think his read is kind of accurate, I don't agree I think Dam is down, But I will take Vane off the table for a D1 lynch.


His read is accurate and wrong? Isn't that a contradiction?


No not at all. He has a valid point about Dam kind of disappearing. This is why the read is accurate.

But Dam has done other towny things in this game and he is not the D1 lynch for me.


Okay then.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 23:02 GMT
#896
On August 23 2014 07:33 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 07:31 KelsierSC wrote:
Also as this game has gone on I am more inclined to take Yam out of my town circle, like since Hapa came out Yam has just been a real disappointment.


Actually I think I agree with this.

##Unvote

I'm going to step back and re-evaluate. I'll need to compare how Rayn's defense stacks up to some other games, but I'm not pleased by how Yamato buddied me and fucked off.


rayn went on a pretty similar rampage in Neat & Tidy as town. I think he's done this as scum too though? Not completely sure.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 23:09 GMT
#898
rayn didn't really rage here as scum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461355-team-melee-mini-mafia-v-newbies-and-vets?user=raynpelikoneet I think he was AFK during his lynch or something though. It skips from him talking something random to him having been lynched.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 23:12 GMT
#905
rayn raged some here as scum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462188-iv-titanic-mafia-it-has-been-a-privilege?user=raynpelikoneet&page=10 (although he called Koshi town while insulting him unlike here)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 23:14 GMT
#908
Indeed... In my last game where Hapa was scum (we were scumbuddies) Hapa pretty much chose the easiest possible mislynch and pushed it through with all his credibility. Then we bussed Hapa and cruised to victory. If rayn was town I very much doubt scum Hapa would go for him.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 23:20 GMT
#913
Do you really claim that scum Hapa would choose pushing town rayn as his gameplan?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 23:26 GMT
#920
Well the problem lies with "town" rayn.... If you're town I can perhaps see some merit in your argument (although you really blow it out of proportion), but I can't townread you and you've done some pretty scummy things already.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 23:29 GMT
#923
On August 23 2014 08:25 Damdred wrote:
Its strange to me hapa unleashed the case on rayn

1. when rayn wasn't here
2. right after he made a shoddy case on me and is taking heat

it feels like great timing to post that case right then especially knowing the way rayn is when done like that


Great way to get yourself killed perhaps >.>
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 23:31 GMT
#926
On August 23 2014 08:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 08:20 Xatalos wrote:
Do you really claim that scum Hapa would choose pushing town rayn as his gameplan?


To be fair, I've done some pretty fucking stupid things as mafia. I wouldn't put it past myself to metagame myself into tunneling Rayn as mafia, but sadly I am not mafia this game =/


I think your play was pretty solid in our game earlier (forgot name). That one where we were both scum. You were very logical and calmly lead us to the path of victory. I can't understand scum Hapa choosing the most experienced (other) player in the game as his D1 mislynch. I just can't see it. What stupid stuff have you done btw? A bit hard to imagine from my experience.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 23:32 GMT
#929
On August 23 2014 08:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Just vote for me or Hapa (who is scum).
Sheep me or him. Because we are the best players in this game as yamato decided to fuck off.
If we both read each other as scum one of us is scum. And it's Hapa. Because he is too bad to be town. TOO FUCKING BAD TO BE TOWN!


Already voting you.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 23:39 GMT
#935
On August 23 2014 08:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
if you are town Xatalos why are you so fucking dumb? Honest question...


You were a lot less suspicious than this in Titanic and you were scum. I nullread you there at first and then started to townread you bit by bit. I haven't really seen anything yet that's exclusive to town rayn, except maybe your super OMGUS on Hapa. Ugh. I don't think you've done something exactly like that as scum before though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 23:40 GMT
#942
btw rayn what do you think of Damdred now?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 23:44 GMT
#947
rayn&Hapa, care to answer to my posts?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 23:57 GMT
#959
Hmmmh. This rayn spam actually does feel more like town rayn though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:02 GMT
#963
On August 23 2014 08:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 08:44 Xatalos wrote:
rayn&Hapa, care to answer to my posts?


What post? The one about me doing stupid stuff as mafia in other games? I'd rather this discussion not go too far off the rails now.


I guess that's fair. Hmmm. Well I guess neither of you can be SK at least. "Reckless" is the last word I would associate with SK play. I'm starting to think it could even be possible for both of you to be town.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:08 GMT
#964
On August 23 2014 08:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you blew it up already. you're scum.


You're no fun =/


Anyway, Yamato

His lackluster day one has been touched on already.

However, how he responded to my case on Rayn brings some suspicious things to light. Firstly, this:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 06:03 yamato77 wrote:
for me to feel confident in this, I need Hapa to post more

let's go Hapa

talk to me about wave


This is very out-of-character for town Yamato. He's not a player with confidence problems. On the contrary, he's usually very self-confident in his reads and opinionated (although not very active). Any lack of posting he has in his games isn't due to lack of confidence, but generally for lack of effort.

Also, when Rayn re-enters the thread, he posts this...
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 07:15 yamato77 wrote:
rayn

do you think I'm mafia?


...and then is gone. Just gone. The guy who you're convinced is mafia is under pressure and returned to the thread. You have been excited for the last half-hour over this. And when he returns... one question and out.


That point about confidence isn't actually bad btw. It's not exactly encouraging that he's popping in and out either. Maybe it was premature to call him "obvtown". Still this is much better than his scumplay in PYP Handslaps.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:13 GMT
#965
RE: [D1] Malware Madness Mafia! (yamato)
It does slightly worry me that no one else thinks that Rayn is town, but idk man, I've played many games with that Fin and I can townread him very well early on.

rayn, do you really think scum Hapa + yamato would push you D1 if you're town even though they're both apparently good at reading you?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:15 GMT
#966
Well I guess you could say to that "they'd only do this as scum" but it's kind of like scum claiming Masons. Just doesn't feel realistic. Which makes the more likely option of you being scum (although Hapa kind of backed off from scumreading you).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:23 GMT
#970
On August 23 2014 09:22 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 09:13 Xatalos wrote:
RE: [D1] Malware Madness Mafia! (yamato)
It does slightly worry me that no one else thinks that Rayn is town, but idk man, I've played many games with that Fin and I can townread him very well early on.

rayn, do you really think scum Hapa + yamato would push you D1 if you're town even though they're both apparently good at reading you?


Why are you lying about this

I have stated many times that Rayn is town.


I don't even know what you're saying anymore.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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