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On August 24 2014 08:17 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 08:15 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 08:12 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 08:11 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 08:10 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 08:09 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait, what?!?! Why aren't hapa and Yamato voting for rayn. They're sooooooo fucking convinced he's scum. Did something change since pg 40? And then he disappeared forever. Hapa, how about an opinion on Robik? You don't even have to read that much. Why the fuck are we talking about players that aren't up on the block? Fuck robik. He's null as fuck, and he's actually probably town because of the "I'm town" shit that he's doing. Ok, who is up on the block? You and yamato? There is a limited amount of stuff that you can say about yamato and the best thing to figure you out is to make you give reads. My priority is to get Yamato lynched, and Xatalos not lynched. I'm not going to accomplish this by putting up with the useless questions you ask me. I already wasted 3 hours of my life responding to something you misread in my filter. I've responded to you plenty. Now it's your turn to get an opinion of something, push a read, and do anything other than asking me useless questions. If that means you vote me, go right ahead, this is a waste of my time. You have a brain. Use it. Everything I do is to get an opinion. I fail to see how it hurts you to give reads. Your idea of information gathering is to beat someone to death with a spoon. No it's not. I went hard on you earlier because I misunderstood something. Asking for reads is not beating with a spoon. I. am. not. answering. your. questions. anymore. You're going to talk to me about why Xatalos is town, why Yamato is mafia, and why you're about to vote Yamato. I was actually going to side with you but you are making me reconsider with this crap.
I. am. not. answering. your. questions. anymore.
I. am. not. answering. your. questions. anymore.
I. am. not. answering. your. questions. anymore.
I. am. not. answering. your. questions. anymore.
I. am. not. answering. your. questions. anymore.
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Kelsier - can you read one of Xata's past scum-games that I linked? It feels like everything you expect out of a town Xatalos is in one of those mafia games.
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On August 24 2014 08:21 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 08:18 KelsierSC wrote:
so Xat all you want me to do is lynch yam
But I read you as scum so badly and you are pushing on Yam. Even though he was town for you. And you shared his read on rayn who is still scum for you.
Like I would happily lynch over yamato and feel really good about it.
So when someone who I see is scum is puhsing hard for a lynch like it makes me uneasy, does that make sense.
You need to convince me you are town and you havent fucking done it you could be bussing, yam could be town ( I dont think he is_ but with how eager you are now to push this lynch through and live another day it just screams scum.
I cant think of one good reason to keep you for d2 I understand you wholeheartedly but Hapas read on Xatalos is actually not bad. It basically means that Xatalos is a better townplayer as scum but it is somewhat hard to imagine that he posts all this stuff without reconsidering as mafia.
It has nothing to do with that. It means that he's intelligent enough to tell people what they want to hear when he's mafia.
And that's why he's town this game - he's not concerned with putting on appearances. He's concerned with dumping whatever-the-fuck is on his mind.
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On August 24 2014 08:24 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 08:23 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 08:21 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 08:18 KelsierSC wrote:
so Xat all you want me to do is lynch yam
But I read you as scum so badly and you are pushing on Yam. Even though he was town for you. And you shared his read on rayn who is still scum for you.
Like I would happily lynch over yamato and feel really good about it.
So when someone who I see is scum is puhsing hard for a lynch like it makes me uneasy, does that make sense.
You need to convince me you are town and you havent fucking done it you could be bussing, yam could be town ( I dont think he is_ but with how eager you are now to push this lynch through and live another day it just screams scum.
I cant think of one good reason to keep you for d2 I understand you wholeheartedly but Hapas read on Xatalos is actually not bad. It basically means that Xatalos is a better townplayer as scum but it is somewhat hard to imagine that he posts all this stuff without reconsidering as mafia. It has nothing to do with that. It means that he's intelligent enough to tell people what they want to hear when he's mafia. And that's why he's town this game - he's not concerned with putting on appearances. He's concerned with dumping whatever-the-fuck is on his mind. Which is exactly what I just said.
On August 24 2014 08:15 Hapahauli wrote:
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You're going to talk to me about why Xatalos is town, why Yamato is mafia, and why you're about to vote Yamato.
Part one accomplished. Let's talk about part two.
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On August 24 2014 08:26 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 08:25 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 08:24 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 08:23 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 08:21 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 08:18 KelsierSC wrote:
so Xat all you want me to do is lynch yam
But I read you as scum so badly and you are pushing on Yam. Even though he was town for you. And you shared his read on rayn who is still scum for you.
Like I would happily lynch over yamato and feel really good about it.
So when someone who I see is scum is puhsing hard for a lynch like it makes me uneasy, does that make sense.
You need to convince me you are town and you havent fucking done it you could be bussing, yam could be town ( I dont think he is_ but with how eager you are now to push this lynch through and live another day it just screams scum.
I cant think of one good reason to keep you for d2 I understand you wholeheartedly but Hapas read on Xatalos is actually not bad. It basically means that Xatalos is a better townplayer as scum but it is somewhat hard to imagine that he posts all this stuff without reconsidering as mafia. It has nothing to do with that. It means that he's intelligent enough to tell people what they want to hear when he's mafia. And that's why he's town this game - he's not concerned with putting on appearances. He's concerned with dumping whatever-the-fuck is on his mind. Which is exactly what I just said. On August 24 2014 08:15 Hapahauli wrote:
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You're going to talk to me about why Xatalos is town, why Yamato is mafia, and why you're about to vote Yamato.
Part one accomplished. Let's talk about part two. There is nothing to say about that. I already did that ages ago.
Awesome. Then we get to move to part 3:
why you're about to vote Yamato.
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On August 24 2014 08:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey, so 1.5h to go.
Who the fuck are we lynching?
Yamato obviously.
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On August 24 2014 08:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Both the semi-confirmed towns seem to prefer killing Hapa/Xatalos. Hm.
This is also pretty biased considering they're masons.
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On August 24 2014 08:42 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 08:41 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 08:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Both the semi-confirmed towns seem to prefer killing Hapa/Xatalos. Hm. This is also pretty biased considering they're masons. Hm?
They've mentioned several times separately that they're sharing reads and voting in solidarity. It's natural for them to be suspicious of the same people.
Also, even if you're suspicious of me, you should atleast be skeptical given my meta-case on Xatalos. I'm pretty damn confident in that one, no one has brought up anything resembling an objection to it, and it seems like you agree with it too.
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Ugh that vote. Maybe I got damdred wrong.
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Can I get a show of hands who would be interested in swinging a vote on Damdred? That vote is actually that bad.
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On August 24 2014 09:13 KelsierSC wrote:
I think Hapa's read on you is shit tier to be honest. Maybe you are "dumping" what is on your mind but my main problem is that your arguments and reads have had absolutely no logic to them and there has been absolutely nothing substantial from you.
Your push on Yam just reeks of a scum trying to survive one more day. You are ignoring a connection between he think rayn is scum, so do you, but now you are sure he is scum aswell. like fuck this you are just horrid.
I really think Xat is the lynch over Yam now.
You are either the densest person on earth or you're mafia.
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On August 24 2014 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 09:13 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 09:13 KelsierSC wrote:
I think Hapa's read on you is shit tier to be honest. Maybe you are "dumping" what is on your mind but my main problem is that your arguments and reads have had absolutely no logic to them and there has been absolutely nothing substantial from you.
Your push on Yam just reeks of a scum trying to survive one more day. You are ignoring a connection between he think rayn is scum, so do you, but now you are sure he is scum aswell. like fuck this you are just horrid.
I really think Xat is the lynch over Yam now. You are either the densest person on earth or you're mafia. I just don't like your read that doesn't make me dense or mafia. The read is he is town because he is posting a lot notice he has nothing substantial until his sheep on rayn and then this push on yam, it isnt fucking difficult to mimic your town play if your town play is spamming nonsense and not giving a read
The problem here is that you obviously didn't read any of the games I linked.
That and you're lynching a guy with 17 pages of Day 1 filter. Scum can be active, but no way can scum cannot fake that level of activity. In the history of this site, I've never seen someone have that large of a Day 1 filter. Ever.
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On August 24 2014 09:20 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 09:18 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 09:13 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 09:13 KelsierSC wrote:
I think Hapa's read on you is shit tier to be honest. Maybe you are "dumping" what is on your mind but my main problem is that your arguments and reads have had absolutely no logic to them and there has been absolutely nothing substantial from you.
Your push on Yam just reeks of a scum trying to survive one more day. You are ignoring a connection between he think rayn is scum, so do you, but now you are sure he is scum aswell. like fuck this you are just horrid.
I really think Xat is the lynch over Yam now. You are either the densest person on earth or you're mafia. I just don't like your read that doesn't make me dense or mafia. The read is he is town because he is posting a lot notice he has nothing substantial until his sheep on rayn and then this push on yam, it isnt fucking difficult to mimic your town play if your town play is spamming nonsense and not giving a read The problem here is that you obviously didn't read any of the games I linked. That and you're lynching a guy with 17 pages of Day 1 filter. Scum can be active, but no way can scum cannot fake that level of activity. In the history of this site, I've never seen someone have that large of a Day 1 filter. Ever. Can't name you specific games but I'm pretty sure I've seen it. Not sure if I've seen scum do it, but I know for sure it's been done.
I've seen 17 pages of filter. 17 pages of day 1 filter? No.
17 pages of Day 1 Xatalos filter? No way.
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On August 24 2014 09:20 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 09:18 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 09:13 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 09:13 KelsierSC wrote:
I think Hapa's read on you is shit tier to be honest. Maybe you are "dumping" what is on your mind but my main problem is that your arguments and reads have had absolutely no logic to them and there has been absolutely nothing substantial from you.
Your push on Yam just reeks of a scum trying to survive one more day. You are ignoring a connection between he think rayn is scum, so do you, but now you are sure he is scum aswell. like fuck this you are just horrid.
I really think Xat is the lynch over Yam now. You are either the densest person on earth or you're mafia. I just don't like your read that doesn't make me dense or mafia. The read is he is town because he is posting a lot notice he has nothing substantial until his sheep on rayn and then this push on yam, it isnt fucking difficult to mimic your town play if your town play is spamming nonsense and not giving a read The problem here is that you obviously didn't read any of the games I linked. That and you're lynching a guy with 17 pages of Day 1 filter. Scum can be active, but no way can scum cannot fake that level of activity. In the history of this site, I've never seen someone have that large of a Day 1 filter. Ever. Ok I notice you and Xat are both dodging around the sheer illogical aspect of his play.
Being town =/= being logical.
If you think like that, you're going to be voting for a lot of townies in your near future.
As for whatever he did in an other game, frankly that is less relevant to me.
Then you're voluntarily handicapping your scumhunting. There is information out there, and you chose not to use it.
For example, you'd see a remarkably similar style of posting in his last game (Arnie's Got a Gun) when he was town.
Also I look for quality in posts not quantity and a lot of his posts are just nonsense
But he does this as town. Even if you think he's capable of faking this as town, you're still at best 3 or 4/14 on hitting mafia by voting him.
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On August 24 2014 09:26 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 09:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
KSC I have a question for you.
You read me town, correct?
And you think Xat is scum.
If him and yamato are your strongest scumreads, and I am the leader of the push on yamato, why are you not voting for him? I just don't like this town read being given to Xat by Hapa it feels off Xata feels really fucking scummy and I dont like he is being called town
This is called confirmation bias.
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On August 24 2014 07:35 KelsierSC wrote:
I really don't like what Xata has done here.
Yamato was his town read for a long time. But now he goes full against him being scum. Yeh I agree but it just seems such a big switch.
Considering Xat said he still has Hapa as town and still has rayn as leaning scummy how can be against someone who had all the same reads as him.
I think Yam is mafia here for sure but Xat is just bussing him to get some credibility.
Kelsier you need to answer for this because this makes no sense.
You think Xat is bussing his mafia buddy. So how in the actual fuck does it make sense to vote the guy you think is bussing, as opposed to the guy you "think is mafia for sure"?
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On August 24 2014 09:39 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 09:34 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 07:35 KelsierSC wrote:
I really don't like what Xata has done here.
Yamato was his town read for a long time. But now he goes full against him being scum. Yeh I agree but it just seems such a big switch.
Considering Xat said he still has Hapa as town and still has rayn as leaning scummy how can be against someone who had all the same reads as him.
I think Yam is mafia here for sure but Xat is just bussing him to get some credibility. Kelsier you need to answer for this because this makes no sense. You think Xat is bussing his mafia buddy. So how in the actual fuck does it make sense to vote the guy you think is bussing, as opposed to the guy you "think is mafia for sure"? At the time, I felt Yam was definitely mafia, and he probably is. But! Xat had given him a town read. However what I was saying is that yamata thought rayn was mafia ...along with you actually, Xat had the same read as that. So for him to flip so hard on a guy who shared the same read as you and that you called town just reeks of scum. I was basically pointing out logical inconsistency. I will probably vote for yam, just Xat is super fucking scummy aswell and it seems like a bus attempt. My main thing Is I dont want Xat given a town read. Honestly hap you defing Xat this hard is fucking weird as fuck considering how scummy he has played and your "town " reason is shit tier
Apparently I'm "shit tier" for using all the information available to me, while you blissfully ignore it. Good to know.
I will probably vote for yam, just Xat is super fucking scummy aswell and it seems like a bus attempt.
Going to hold you to this.
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On August 24 2014 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 09:42 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 09:39 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 09:34 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 07:35 KelsierSC wrote:
I really don't like what Xata has done here.
Yamato was his town read for a long time. But now he goes full against him being scum. Yeh I agree but it just seems such a big switch.
Considering Xat said he still has Hapa as town and still has rayn as leaning scummy how can be against someone who had all the same reads as him.
I think Yam is mafia here for sure but Xat is just bussing him to get some credibility. Kelsier you need to answer for this because this makes no sense. You think Xat is bussing his mafia buddy. So how in the actual fuck does it make sense to vote the guy you think is bussing, as opposed to the guy you "think is mafia for sure"? At the time, I felt Yam was definitely mafia, and he probably is. But! Xat had given him a town read. However what I was saying is that yamata thought rayn was mafia ...along with you actually, Xat had the same read as that. So for him to flip so hard on a guy who shared the same read as you and that you called town just reeks of scum. I was basically pointing out logical inconsistency. I will probably vote for yam, just Xat is super fucking scummy aswell and it seems like a bus attempt. My main thing Is I dont want Xat given a town read. Honestly hap you defing Xat this hard is fucking weird as fuck considering how scummy he has played and your "town " reason is shit tier Apparently I'm "shit tier" for using all the information available to me, while you blissfully ignore it. Good to know. I will probably vote for yam, just Xat is super fucking scummy aswell and it seems like a bus attempt. Going to hold you to this. you are using selective irrelevant information imo
Looking at both of his scumgames are "selective" and "irrelevant" apparently. And you're the one harping on "logic?"
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Anyway, the larger point to this is that Yamato is a better lynch than Xatalos. I don't care if you read him as town or as slightly less scummy than Yamato or whatever. That's irrelevant until tomorrow.
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