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I agree with you Kel that, it felt weird but it fit with how the thread was heading to at that point. I just hesitate especially to lynch the biggest filter today
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On August 24 2014 02:12 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote? If by the end of the day I had no strong reads I would probably just suicide for being useless. In all seriousness yes I would probably vote along with the confirmed town.. Was that the case in this situation? It was not near the end of day and it was the FIRST post Hapa had made, he was nowhere near confirmed. Dam what is your read on WoS now?
I'm actually going to go back on my original read. Hes actually being really logical and he seems to be helping and it seems to be coming form a town position. I like him a lot better than I did earlier in the thread at this point.
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On August 24 2014 02:22 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:19 Damdred wrote:On August 24 2014 02:12 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote? If by the end of the day I had no strong reads I would probably just suicide for being useless. In all seriousness yes I would probably vote along with the confirmed town.. Was that the case in this situation? It was not near the end of day and it was the FIRST post Hapa had made, he was nowhere near confirmed. Dam what is your read on WoS now? I'm actually going to go back on my original read. Hes actually being really logical and he seems to be helping and it seems to be coming form a town position. I like him a lot better than I did earlier in the thread at this point. More backdown, not that I'm surprised. Filtering you right now. You're either on the table for me or off.
Yea yea yea, I backdown because you seemed more town than you did earlier in the day and I don't think you are on the table for lynch anyway. I'm ok with being wrong about someone and saying why i'm wrong but yea a lot of the stuff you posted earlier in the day was scummy to me, just the stuff you posted recently make sense and seem towny. I don't see what the problem is
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On August 24 2014 02:28 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Xatalos, what about Onegus entrance was good? The fact that he immediately focused on interacting with me and talking about which filters would be important to read etc., then actually went to read rayn and brought additional points for him being scum.
Show me what good points Xata, most of what he brought to the thread had been talked about before and as someone who Rayn says can always read him and he self claims he can read rayn he doesn't bring a ton to the thread in the way of a read when rayn has a lot of pages to draw from.
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But are those really Oneg points or have they been said before in the thread Xata? What about his case or his presence in the thread was actually helpful towards the case about Rayn?
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I disagree strongly Xatalos, if I understand the context of the thread Yamato was 100% being allowed to lurk with no pressure put on him. Thats how he scums and Rayn brought attention we just didn't talk about it. It's not begging at all.
Also I don't read the Oneg case the same at all I think it is lacking 100% he showed two quotes maybe three at most....from an 11 page filter? And you think thats a good case and is sheepable?
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On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne? Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess. Ok, who do we lynch? well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though.
Do epople actually believe i haven't said anything original? or are they just trying to piss me off....This is the stupidest thing against me its like you aren't even reading the thread
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On August 24 2014 03:00 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:55 Damdred wrote:On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne? Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess. Ok, who do we lynch? well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though. Do epople actually believe i haven't said anything original? or are they just trying to piss me off....This is the stupidest thing against me its like you aren't even reading the thread I am some one that actually DOES read filters (90% of what I do when im around) could you point me to what you think is an insightful contribution so far? I'm more seeing just a lot of agreeableness and general wish washyness. Im not rayn here and challenging you to a gauntlet.
My GB stuff was original at that point in the thread, it is wrong admittedly because GB is confirmed town basically but its still there. My stuff on Wave was original to the thread, though I do think wave is being helpful to the thread now I still think he was being scummy at that point and hes not the lynch today. I talked to Xata several times, tried to have a conversation about Oneg read on Rayn which Xata still hasn't acknowledged my latest post. A few observations, one about the timing of Hapas argument and the weird sheeping that happened right after.
So yea I think i've contributed, and Kel i'm not sure honestly. Im still really angry at Rayn and I don't want it to cloud my judgement right now.
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On August 24 2014 02:43 Damdred wrote:
I disagree strongly Xatalos, if I understand the context of the thread Yamato was 100% being allowed to lurk with no pressure put on him. Thats how he scums and Rayn brought attention we just didn't talk about it. It's not begging at all.
Also I don't read the Oneg case the same at all I think it is lacking 100% he showed two quotes maybe three at most....from an 11 page filter? And you think thats a good case and is sheepable?
@Xata
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On August 24 2014 04:25 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.
Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression. Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this. Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is? Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they? Also fuck lynching damdred today I don't have time for a filterdive until later tonight and I'm not confident enough. He's really obviously a smurf with a lot of experience (Prome? not sure but someone good anyway) + he's basically confirmed as town. These points combined lead me to at least show some level of respect for his play, so perhaps I should revisit my townread of Hapa. Well, Hapa just returned so I hope to see more from him from now on. Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise.
The bolded bothers me, obviously he is mafia if he doesn't contribute but what i've seen isn't as bad as some people think it is. I'm going to wait on his read to see if he can keep a promise meh. But why don't you care exactly? I care about mislynches i'd rather just lynch mafia every day instead of thinking well if hes town no great loss
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On August 24 2014 04:32 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 04:29 Damdred wrote:On August 24 2014 04:25 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.
Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression. Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this. Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is? Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they? Also fuck lynching damdred today I don't have time for a filterdive until later tonight and I'm not confident enough. He's really obviously a smurf with a lot of experience (Prome? not sure but someone good anyway) + he's basically confirmed as town. These points combined lead me to at least show some level of respect for his play, so perhaps I should revisit my townread of Hapa. Well, Hapa just returned so I hope to see more from him from now on. Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise. The bolded bothers me, obviously he is mafia if he doesn't contribute but what i've seen isn't as bad as some people think it is. I'm going to wait on his read to see if he can keep a promise meh. But why don't you care exactly? I care about mislynches i'd rather just lynch mafia every day instead of thinking well if hes town no great loss Because I wouldn't want him at LYLO either way if this continues.
But its no where close to LYLO so why would you be ok with lynching town at this point?
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On August 24 2014 04:37 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 04:36 Damdred wrote:On August 24 2014 04:32 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 04:29 Damdred wrote:On August 24 2014 04:25 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.
Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression. Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this. Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is? Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they? Also fuck lynching damdred today I don't have time for a filterdive until later tonight and I'm not confident enough. He's really obviously a smurf with a lot of experience (Prome? not sure but someone good anyway) + he's basically confirmed as town. These points combined lead me to at least show some level of respect for his play, so perhaps I should revisit my townread of Hapa. Well, Hapa just returned so I hope to see more from him from now on. Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise. The bolded bothers me, obviously he is mafia if he doesn't contribute but what i've seen isn't as bad as some people think it is. I'm going to wait on his read to see if he can keep a promise meh. But why don't you care exactly? I care about mislynches i'd rather just lynch mafia every day instead of thinking well if hes town no great loss Because I wouldn't want him at LYLO either way if this continues. But its no where close to LYLO so why would you be ok with lynching town at this point? Man your timing is something else.
Oh yea? hows that? Remind you of your own?
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On August 24 2014 04:41 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 04:39 Damdred wrote:On August 24 2014 04:37 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 04:36 Damdred wrote:On August 24 2014 04:32 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 04:29 Damdred wrote:On August 24 2014 04:25 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.
Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression. Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this. Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is? Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they? Also fuck lynching damdred today I don't have time for a filterdive until later tonight and I'm not confident enough. He's really obviously a smurf with a lot of experience (Prome? not sure but someone good anyway) + he's basically confirmed as town. These points combined lead me to at least show some level of respect for his play, so perhaps I should revisit my townread of Hapa. Well, Hapa just returned so I hope to see more from him from now on. Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise. The bolded bothers me, obviously he is mafia if he doesn't contribute but what i've seen isn't as bad as some people think it is. I'm going to wait on his read to see if he can keep a promise meh. But why don't you care exactly? I care about mislynches i'd rather just lynch mafia every day instead of thinking well if hes town no great loss Because I wouldn't want him at LYLO either way if this continues. But its no where close to LYLO so why would you be ok with lynching town at this point? Man your timing is something else. Oh yea? hows that? Remind you of your own? You seem to be very pissed this game.
Yea I didn't mean for that to come off pissy I was being sarcastic/joking there last night since me and hapa talked about timing last night
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On August 24 2014 04:46 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 04:43 Damdred wrote:On August 24 2014 04:41 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 04:39 Damdred wrote:On August 24 2014 04:37 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 04:36 Damdred wrote:On August 24 2014 04:32 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 04:29 Damdred wrote:On August 24 2014 04:25 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
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Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this.
Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is?
Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they?
Also fuck lynching damdred today I don't have time for a filterdive until later tonight and I'm not confident enough. He's really obviously a smurf with a lot of experience (Prome? not sure but someone good anyway) + he's basically confirmed as town. These points combined lead me to at least show some level of respect for his play, so perhaps I should revisit my townread of Hapa. Well, Hapa just returned so I hope to see more from him from now on. Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise. The bolded bothers me, obviously he is mafia if he doesn't contribute but what i've seen isn't as bad as some people think it is. I'm going to wait on his read to see if he can keep a promise meh. But why don't you care exactly? I care about mislynches i'd rather just lynch mafia every day instead of thinking well if hes town no great loss Because I wouldn't want him at LYLO either way if this continues. But its no where close to LYLO so why would you be ok with lynching town at this point? Man your timing is something else. Oh yea? hows that? Remind you of your own? You seem to be very pissed this game. Yea I didn't mean for that to come off pissy I was being sarcastic/joking there last night since me and hapa talked about timing last night Joking aside, you only seem to post in this game when someone mentions your name and/or calls you suspicious.
I don't think thats true, I was just talking to Xata about being ok with lynching townies and motivation behind that and I haven't been mentioned for a bit now really.
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Hapa is the only reason you aren't reading Xata scummy because of his big filter?
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I disagree that you can't have a huge filter as mafia, the titanic game Rayn got 11 pages I believe and wasn't to active but I don't know if Xata could do it. Some of the things hes said so far have felt forced and sound a bit odd. I think mainly I didn't like how easily he sheeped your case on Rayn without question even though it was your first post in the thread, I don't like how he is ok with lynching townies because it makes lylo easier usually town Xata would be more hopeful that we would hit mafia every day. He defends people but softly throws stuff at them, hes just a mess this game to me and he just feels scummy at this point to me.
But I struggle with Xata because he always feels scummy to me so theres that.
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Vayne, You disapeared on me earlier after I made my post. Are you still scum reading me for the reasons you posted? Feels a bit weird that you made the post a follow up and then left
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On August 23 2014 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: Damdred
he drops off anytime anything game defining happens, knocking it in
On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne? Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess. Ok, who do we lynch? well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though.
These are your two points on me. You agreed with me on GB, you said you disagreed with the wave stuff (did you disagree with my conclussion or that it was original content?) and wrote the rest of my things off as fluff which I disagree with.
Both of your points even if you still think i'm fluffy are disproved. Am I really worth your vote right now? Yamato is the easy vote so no I won't push him right now i'm not 100% that this is his scum game even if its hard not to vote for him right now, some of his stuff shows actual thoughts behind it even if he hasn't posted a case on wave like he promised yet...
Either way I disagree where your vote is and your reasons for voting
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On August 24 2014 06:20 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 06:19 Damdred wrote:On August 23 2014 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: Damdred
he drops off anytime anything game defining happens, knocking it in On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne? Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess. Ok, who do we lynch? well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though. These are your two points on me. You agreed with me on GB, you said you disagreed with the wave stuff (did you disagree with my conclussion or that it was original content?) and wrote the rest of my things off as fluff which I disagree with. Both of your points even if you still think i'm fluffy are disproved. Am I really worth your vote right now? Yamato is the easy vote so no I won't push him right now i'm not 100% that this is his scum game even if its hard not to vote for him right now, some of his stuff shows actual thoughts behind it even if he hasn't posted a case on wave like he promised yet... Either way I disagree where your vote is and your reasons for voting so where do you propose we go from here then? I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish day 1 thats a good place to start.
Obviously the only place to go is scum hunt, i've already put forth that I think Xatalos is pretty scummy. And I don't like Onegu case on Rayn and his promise to read the thread and contribute has him not really doing anything at all.
And honestly i'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish day one vayne
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On August 24 2014 06:28 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 06:23 Damdred wrote:On August 24 2014 06:20 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 24 2014 06:19 Damdred wrote:On August 23 2014 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: Damdred
he drops off anytime anything game defining happens, knocking it in On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne? Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess. Ok, who do we lynch? well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though. These are your two points on me. You agreed with me on GB, you said you disagreed with the wave stuff (did you disagree with my conclussion or that it was original content?) and wrote the rest of my things off as fluff which I disagree with. Both of your points even if you still think i'm fluffy are disproved. Am I really worth your vote right now? Yamato is the easy vote so no I won't push him right now i'm not 100% that this is his scum game even if its hard not to vote for him right now, some of his stuff shows actual thoughts behind it even if he hasn't posted a case on wave like he promised yet... Either way I disagree where your vote is and your reasons for voting so where do you propose we go from here then? I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish day 1 thats a good place to start. Obviously the only place to go is scum hunt, i've already put forth that I think Xatalos is pretty scummy. And I don't like Onegu case on Rayn and his promise to read the thread and contribute has him not really doing anything at all. And honestly i'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish day one vayne Ideally day one my goal is to simply survive and start lining up conversations and how they hold up with actions. I dont necessarily always need/want to kill scum day 1 as it isnt a pressing matter yet. Its better to gather a ton of info here. As an aside why does easy vote = not scum to you?
Yea we play day one differently I try to have converstaions and get information but I look for scummy stuff and try to comment on it, I guess I don't normally put survival as the highest asset going into day one usually.
Some of Yamatos posts seem to have actual thoughts behind them and trying to do something that just doesn't seem like what i've seen in some of his scum games. I mean yes an easy vote could get scum just as easily as it could miss just because they don't fight the lynch doesn't automatically make them scum.
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