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On August 22 2014 23:18 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia? are you calling him mafia? I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh" Yamato is always mafia until he posts and shows he isn't. You guys are right though, my posts do look a little downplay I guess my sarcasm was not really getting across especially in the post about being scum read for not being awkward.
SO apologetic. Is damdred REALLY town for this? I learned not to do this after my first towngame ever i think.
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Listposts draw attention, having reads basically opposite to everyone else in thread draw attention. So unless he really WASN'T reading the thread, or plays scum like me (I highly doubt it), he's likely not scum.
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On August 23 2014 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 00:29 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Why are me and JAT posting the exact same fucking stuff all the time.  This is funny haha <3 Because you are both town. Think the lynch is between Xat and GB at the moment. I think WoS has played a lot stronger since the restart and GB has really slipped down. I do not think this is the case with Wave. Basically everything he says is just incorrect or he contradicts himself with what he says earlier. For example he called someone bad/scum for making an association case and then he made a shitty association case himself...
This whole post of yours is complete horseshit rayn. What have I said that is incorrect, and where have I made an association case?
What the fuck are you even talking about?
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Not to mention even WERE that true, contradiction/inconsistency is absolutely not a scumtell in the slightest. I've seen you treat it as such and mislynch people enough to know that for one.
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PS GB's anger at being called out (whether truly for activity or not) while having a busy day AND attempting to post during lunch rings mega townbells with me. I should fucking know
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On August 23 2014 00:51 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 00:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
PS GB's anger at being called out (whether truly for activity or not) while having a busy day AND attempting to post during lunch rings mega townbells with me. I should fucking know I see why you would understand the anger in general but I don't understand why it rings townbells.
Precisely because when you are assaulted like this you are absolutely furious as town that anyone could ever accuse you because not only is it completely untrue but they shouldn't be accusing you in the first place. It's like hearing about those people who go to jail for 20 years and then they find out somebody else did it or whatever. Just massive anger right from the gut.
As scum you can fake the anger, sure, but it's not the same because even though they're accusing you correctly, it's for the wrong reason---it's not the same kind of righteous anger.
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On August 23 2014 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.
Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now? Show nested quote +On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Possible scummers:
Damdred/KSC (and maybe Onegu or hapa or yamato? can't tell 'cause they're not here)
Damdred for reasons earlier that haven't resolved much---had a mind meld a little while ago which is +town but his posting since he's returned hasn't really done a lot for me. More forgettable scum than HOLYSHITOBVSCUM
Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh.
KSC still just can't tell either way---either skilled scummer or boring townie. You call out someone for making a pre-flip association, then one of your reasons for reading Xatalos town for is pre-flip association... Which is btw horribly wrong because at least four people have not called Xatalos mafia in this game.
Not a case. The 'everyone found him scummy' doesn't have anything to do with anything in terms of trying to prove anything, I'm just saying people found him scummy, I don't. It's an exaggeration. it's specifically the fact that he would be a horrible scummer if he played that listpost the way he did.
GOD I FORGOT HOW MUCH I HATE THIS NITPICKING STYLE OF YOURS SO MUCH
Like you don't pick on grand points, you pick on semantics and stuff and it never gets you anywhere
It's so frustrating trying to prove to you I'm town because it happens this way every goddamn game
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On August 23 2014 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In your list of possible mafia are three people who have not called Xatalos scum.
Do you know something i do not Wave?
THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THREAD SNETIMENT JESUS CHRIST
I ALSO MENTIONED PEOPLE WHO ARE AFK AND THEY DIDNT CALL XATALOS SCUM HURR DURR I MUST BE MAFIA
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On August 23 2014 00:59 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 00:56 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 23 2014 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.
Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now? On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Possible scummers:
Damdred/KSC (and maybe Onegu or hapa or yamato? can't tell 'cause they're not here)
Damdred for reasons earlier that haven't resolved much---had a mind meld a little while ago which is +town but his posting since he's returned hasn't really done a lot for me. More forgettable scum than HOLYSHITOBVSCUM
Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh.
KSC still just can't tell either way---either skilled scummer or boring townie. You call out someone for making a pre-flip association, then one of your reasons for reading Xatalos town for is pre-flip association... Which is btw horribly wrong because at least four people have not called Xatalos mafia in this game. GOD I FORGOT HOW MUCH I HATE THIS NITPICKING STYLE OF YOURS SO MUCH Like you don't pick on grand points, you pick on semantics and stuff and it never gets you anywhere It's so frustrating trying to prove to you I'm town because it happens this way every goddamn game You seem to be quite certain that rayn is town, yes?
Yeah fairly fucking certain. He tends not to do this shit as scum---0doesn't push relentlessly he is more content to sit back and not take an active role. Like you last game.
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On August 23 2014 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tell me Wave, what are grand points then?
You have two weak townreads and i have no idea why you think the people you are mafia are mafia.
Enlighten me because you have given us nothing concrete so far.
Because I don't have anything concrete. I have explained exactly what I have on people thus far. My scumreads are simply those I have found scummiest so far, I am not sold on any of them. fucking hell
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On August 23 2014 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 01:00 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 23 2014 00:59 justanothertownie wrote:On August 23 2014 00:56 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 23 2014 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.
Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now? On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Possible scummers:
Damdred/KSC (and maybe Onegu or hapa or yamato? can't tell 'cause they're not here)
Damdred for reasons earlier that haven't resolved much---had a mind meld a little while ago which is +town but his posting since he's returned hasn't really done a lot for me. More forgettable scum than HOLYSHITOBVSCUM
Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh.
KSC still just can't tell either way---either skilled scummer or boring townie. You call out someone for making a pre-flip association, then one of your reasons for reading Xatalos town for is pre-flip association... Which is btw horribly wrong because at least four people have not called Xatalos mafia in this game. GOD I FORGOT HOW MUCH I HATE THIS NITPICKING STYLE OF YOURS SO MUCH Like you don't pick on grand points, you pick on semantics and stuff and it never gets you anywhere It's so frustrating trying to prove to you I'm town because it happens this way every goddamn game You seem to be quite certain that rayn is town, yes? Yeah fairly fucking certain. He tends not to do this shit as scum---0doesn't push relentlessly he is more content to sit back and not take an active role. Like you last game. Wow, I HEAVILY disagree with this statement. If there is a player that pushes hard for mislynches and has an agenda as scum then it is rayn.
You've never had to defend yourself from town-rayn led mislynches multiple times.
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Show me where that's true.
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On August 23 2014 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave what is your reasoning for not scumreading GlowingBear?
What you are doing right now is just trying to discredit me for no reason. It makes no sense to me because what i have said is basically "i have no fucking idea who you think is mafia and why" and "what you say is not making sense to me". The way to conter it is to start making sense, not to discredit someone. Everyone who pushes lynches has lead mislynches. That does not make me bad. For the record i after my break i have voted for mafia in 75% of all my day phases as town. So i am definitely not bad and if i happen/happened to mislynch you it's on YOU because YOU failed to convince the town you are town.
I GAVE MULTIPLE REASONS FOR IT
No.
You know what?
No.
I'm not wasting another fucking lunch hour going over every minute piece of bullshit you spew and having you throw shit back on me.
That shit may have worked in Persona when you mislynched me but it won't here.
If you lynch me here you are damn fucking well taking full responsibility for it.
I'm done attempting to convince you; I'm going to play the game how I damn well fucking please, seemingly inane questions, perceived contradictions and all.
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On August 23 2014 01:18 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 01:16 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 23 2014 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave what is your reasoning for not scumreading GlowingBear?
What you are doing right now is just trying to discredit me for no reason. It makes no sense to me because what i have said is basically "i have no fucking idea who you think is mafia and why" and "what you say is not making sense to me". The way to conter it is to start making sense, not to discredit someone. Everyone who pushes lynches has lead mislynches. That does not make me bad. For the record i after my break i have voted for mafia in 75% of all my day phases as town. So i am definitely not bad and if i happen/happened to mislynch you it's on YOU because YOU failed to convince the town you are town. I GAVE MULTIPLE REASONS FOR IT No. You know what? No. I'm not wasting another fucking lunch hour going over every minute piece of bullshit you spew and having you throw shit back on me. That shit may have worked in Persona when you mislynched me but it won't here. If you lynch me here you are damn fucking well taking full responsibility for it. I'm done attempting to convince you; I'm going to play the game how I damn well fucking please, seemingly inane questions, perceived contradictions and all. Ok, fine. But if you want it to be like that stop raging at rayn. Ignore him and talk about other people.
I have done plenty of that but it all falls by the wayside because godrayn deems it so
I shoudl reread damdred again because mroe and mroe people are starting to twonread him I think
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It's definitely prome
nobody calls me a vet but him
Also think he did limericks in another game
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On August 22 2014 21:38 Damdred wrote:
Ok caught up and had one cup of coffee so far.
I don't really care for Xatalos reads so much, i'm just going to ignore the part of me since he always does that to me. I don't get his scummy feels vs non scummy feels. Kel is the lowest on the town scale for him but he has given some of the better material in this thread so far and seems the most likely to be towny out of the early posters and he continues to give pretty good reasoning behind his reads he is part of town I really like him right now.
Xata, have you changed your mind about ray and what you originally posted him as? Also if you give Ray a -1 for being asleep when hes usually not active on the boards shouldn't the other people who have 0s have -1 to?
I think I disagree with the GB and Wave rankings the most. GB is townish to me right now besides the awkward re-entrance to the thread and asking for summary which is just weird and seems strange.
You say wave responds to kel in a casual/towny type way? I don't see that at all, it looked like to me he waited on someone else to call him stupid and then jumped on him, and then asked the same question to multiple people and didn't draw conclusions up to that point about them instead he just left that doesn't seem very towny to me. Confused why you gave him such a strong town read
Yup definitely not liking Damdred
Devotes long catchup post to restating everything that has been said already in thread by other people
Super apologetic
On August 23 2014 01:20 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:On August 22 2014 23:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So far were doing good.
We are not lynching me, KSC, JAT or Robik in any case. Because we are town.
Hapa and Onge have not postesd yet so there is at least one scum in active players.
I am leaning scum on Wave and Glowingbear, strongly.
Is there anyone who thinks they are town? KSC - yeah probably town, really feels like he believes his own ideas and pushes them strongly without care for how he's viewed as a result
jat - no idea, how do you townread him so strongly? he had a humongous filter as scum earlier so not activity... and he immediately jumped to discredit me without calling me scum when you called me scum... I just can't feel the strong townread so help me here
Robik - not as sure as last game but yeah leaning town for being pretty active and posting stuff you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you WOS - my earlier townread on him was a bit faulty so I don't really anyhow heavily townread him anymore, why is he scum though? GB - I don't necessarily think he's town anymore, his weird connection read on me+WOS, curiousness about someone townreading him, and overall awkward posts lately don't look good... could be scum I guess Jat in his scum game was honestly useless, he only showed up to post things that somewhat made sense and he disappeared for long points of time and nobody called him on it he was just allowed to exist. Instead of doing that here, he is much more actively involved in the goings on of the day and is pressuring people to get their reads and not accepting at face value what they are saying but he seems to be digging to get a better understanding. I would strong town read JAT currently because of these reasons Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 01:13 Xatalos wrote:
What's the huge difference between scum jat and the jat in this game? Both here and there he constantly makes these one-liner subtly discrediting questions to people. And the activity level is about the same too I think. So why? Could you show me these one liners where he is subtly discrediting people?
This post is a little better, specifically calling out Xat about where JAT is discrediting people. I don't think his above analysis of JAT is particularly correct though but it makes me wonder why Xat are you the only one who can't seem to get a handle on the fact that JAT is very obviously town?
Damdred, do some more stuff. Don't apologise for stuff, don't rehash stuff.
new stuff.
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On August 23 2014 01:26 turtlevine wrote:
wow, fucking sylencia just came into the mason QT and told us we're confirmed to each other. I would have 100% never outed my Mason partner if he was confirmed to me, since all that does is give scum easy targets to shoot. are you freaking kidding me
LOL
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Yup, never fails.
Called scum D1 last game for being THE EXACT OPPOSITE (even if they were right)
I LOVE TL MAFIA
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On August 23 2014 01:33 KelsierSC wrote:
So I don't really like the last few interactions WoS has had. I know he thinks I am just focused on him but here is what I don't like.
1) I still don't like how he thinks Dam is scum like it just doesn't fit with how I read him and that makes me feel uneasy, also no one else is really pinging out Dam, he isn't going to be the lynch so why deflect on to him.
2) You have no "strong" scum reads like this just doesn't feel good at this point.
3) You got angry with rayn for seemingly no real reason, he was bringing up some good points and asking you reasonable questions and you just kind of exploded at him and It just felt forced to me.
If i get this straight you slightly fos me, dam and Xat as scum?
1) Not deflecting, called him scum ages ago, trying to update reads. I'm sure in another case you could call me scum for sheeping onto a read everybody else has had rather than a 'new' target amirite? CONFIRMATION BIAS
2) never have strong scumreads D1. YOU DON KNO ME (in slightly hispanic accent)
3) Not the way I see it.
KSC, who are you going to vote for, if at all?
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Not specifically that, damdred, a lot of the rest of your filter is stuff that has already been said before you got to it. Some of your stuff on GB is ok but I disagree with it.
And you want nitpicky, go read rayn.
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