• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:08
CET 08:08
KST 16:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams7Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest3Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou22
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" The New Patch Killed Mech! Could we add "Avoid Matchup" Feature for rankgame Smart servos says it affects liberators as well Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou
Tourneys
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival BW General Discussion BSL Season 21 BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking!
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION ASL final tickets help [ASL20] Semifinal A
Strategy
PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1513 users

Guilty Mini Mafia - Page 29

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 37 Next All
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 22:50 GMT
#2568
Isn't that just the same as no-lynching? Since Onegu should be modkilled at deadline. I just asked Sylencia to confirm that btw.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 22:52 GMT
#2570
On August 27 2014 07:51 yamato77 wrote:
LYNCH

HAPA

I GIVE YOU 100% SEAL OF CERTAINTY

HE IS NOT TOWN


Can you explain more?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 22:55 GMT
#2573
But yeah... The worst case scenario is that we mislynch today and Onegu is modkilled + flips town and we lose 2 more during the night. That would leave us with only 2 remaining town and basically a certain loss. Especially if both the Masons die, it's just hopeless. Although in that situation SK might be aiming at scum since scum would have the advantage in that situation. We'd still be in dire straits.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 22:56 GMT
#2577
On August 27 2014 07:55 turtlevine wrote:
If Onegu makes a last-minute return to thread to avoid getting modkilled, I vow to vote him on the spot and prevent him from living out this day.


Haha :D Agreed. Although if he does it at the last second it would be useless.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 22:56 GMT
#2579
On August 27 2014 07:56 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 07:55 Xatalos wrote:
But yeah... The worst case scenario is that we mislynch today and Onegu is modkilled + flips town and we lose 2 more during the night. That would leave us with only 2 remaining town and basically a certain loss. Especially if both the Masons die, it's just hopeless. Although in that situation SK might be aiming at scum since scum would have the advantage in that situation. We'd still be in dire straits.


we would have 3 town in that situation I believe.


5 - 3 = 2?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 22:58 GMT
#2583
Actually yeah there could be 2... But 3 seems clearly like the most likely option.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 22:59 GMT
#2585
On August 27 2014 07:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 07:56 Xatalos wrote:
On August 27 2014 07:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 27 2014 07:55 Xatalos wrote:
But yeah... The worst case scenario is that we mislynch today and Onegu is modkilled + flips town and we lose 2 more during the night. That would leave us with only 2 remaining town and basically a certain loss. Especially if both the Masons die, it's just hopeless. Although in that situation SK might be aiming at scum since scum would have the advantage in that situation. We'd still be in dire straits.


we would have 3 town in that situation I believe.


5 - 3 = 2?


10 of us left.

we lose 2 town to lynches/modkills

we lose 2 town to the SK and the mafia.

that gives us 6 left


Oh yeah true I miscounted how many were left atm.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 23:00 GMT
#2586
Since we have Masons, Jailkeeper and possibly more 2 scum would be underpowered I think.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 23:01 GMT
#2587
And yeah 5 anti-town with 13 players seems like too much as well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 23:04 GMT
#2591
On August 27 2014 08:01 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 07:52 Xatalos wrote:
On August 27 2014 07:51 yamato77 wrote:
LYNCH

HAPA

I GIVE YOU 100% SEAL OF CERTAINTY

HE IS NOT TOWN


Can you explain more?

His whole posting spree yesterday was a large attempt at getting discussion moved away from lynching him. He played the WIFOM game and attempted to downplay the suspicion on him as a waste of time. Yet his contributions to the scumhunting he so valiantly called for have been weak at best. He basically ignored everything that everyone has said about VA and his lynch in that time frame and just reiterated his "case".

Never believe a strong town player when they tell you they are just playing badly.


Hmm... Actually it's a valid point that it feels weird for someone like Hapa to downplay himself as town. Or to even apparently not be very interested in solving the game in the first place.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 23:06 GMT
#2593
On August 27 2014 08:03 KelsierSC wrote:
That is why I am reluctant to lynch Hapa, I understand that he is not playing town. A lot of people think he is the SK.

But if he does flip town we will be in a position with 6 players left with 3 town, 1 kinda confirmed town (yam)

if we lynch onegu then we are 7 players left with 4 town, 1 kinda confirmed.

I need to do more math on that but I think the second scenario is better for town.


Tbh if we mislynch today I think we lose either way (most likely) since we'd be down to around even numbers with scum+SK and scum especially would have a major advantage in that situation. I've been in that situation a lot in SC2 Mafia (the setups there generally always contain 3 Mafia + 1 SK) and I think like 95% of the time town loses.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 23:42 GMT
#2615
##Unvote
##Vote Hapahauli


He hasn't really cared about what's happened today and I'm pretty sure yamato is town so I think I'd be willing to risk this.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 23:48 GMT
#2618
I really wonder where Hapa is right now regardless of his alignment.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 23:55 GMT
#2621
On August 27 2014 08:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 08:42 Xatalos wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Hapahauli


He hasn't really cared about what's happened today and I'm pretty sure yamato is town so I think I'd be willing to risk this.

This except for the 'willing to risk' part.
I still can't believe nobody is seeing VA's claim for exactly what it is combined with the rest of his play.

yamato what happens when/if hapa comes back and fights this?


Yeah I'm pretty torn between VA/Hapa.

VA:
- the claim is quite a bit suspect
- didn't really do anything besides claiming today

Hapa:
- didn't really do anything besides voting for VA today
- actually even urged blues to claim which is... let's say not optimal for town IMO

The thing is that for VA this kind of play could be kind of understandable as town. Whereas for Hapa it's more suspicious I think.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 23:57 GMT
#2624
This will either be completely glorious or completely sad.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 27 2014 00:08 GMT
#2635
I looked at Dessert Mini Mafia (where I was scum with Hapahauli) and I think his D2 play here is pretty similar to that game. In that game he also just listed a couple of weak(ish) "scumreads", voted for one of them and didn't do much else during D2.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/392955-dessert-mini-mafia?user=Hapahauli&page=7

The cases also look a bit similar in the sense that they just take a couple of posts from the target's filter, call them scummy and call it a day.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 27 2014 00:12 GMT
#2640
On August 27 2014 09:09 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 09:08 Xatalos wrote:
I looked at Dessert Mini Mafia (where I was scum with Hapahauli) and I think his D2 play here is pretty similar to that game. In that game he also just listed a couple of weak(ish) "scumreads", voted for one of them and didn't do much else during D2.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/392955-dessert-mini-mafia?user=Hapahauli&page=7

The cases also look a bit similar in the sense that they just take a couple of posts from the target's filter, call them scummy and call it a day.


Mafia and Sk probably play quite differently though and I think Hapa is Sk most likely.


Yeah I don't think Mafia Hapahauli would bus Robik like that. The similarity could be explained by (SK) Hapahauli just not caring who gets lynched all that much, similar to how Mafia Hapahauli wouldn't.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 27 2014 00:19 GMT
#2644
40min left.... Now we can only pray I guess.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 27 2014 00:19 GMT
#2645
For both Hapa+Onegu to flip anti-town.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 27 2014 00:20 GMT
#2646
Otherwise we're quite screwed.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 37 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
01:00
Open Quali #1
LiquipediaDiscussion
The PiG Daily
22:10
Best Games of SC
Rogue vs herO
MaxPax vs Clem
MaxPax vs Lambo
Clem vs herO
Reynor vs Classic
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 32
Nina 18
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 63
Bale 49
ToSsGirL 33
Dota 2
monkeys_forever909
XaKoH 815
NeuroSwarm77
ODPixel43
League of Legends
JimRising 734
Other Games
summit1g8071
Tasteless499
Hui .141
Mew2King64
NotJumperer3
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick735
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH113
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo986
• Jankos907
• Stunt664
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 52m
Streamerzone vs Shopify Rebellion
Streamerzone vs Team Vitality
Shopify Rebellion vs Team Vitality
WardiTV Invitational
4h 52m
CrankTV Team League
5h 52m
BASILISK vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
BSL 21
17h 52m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
BASILISK vs TBD
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
OSC
1d 4h
CrankTV Team League
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
The PondCast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
4 days
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
5 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.