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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2014 02:55 GMT
#3021
There is no logic no post analyzing to show malicious intent all there is, is honestly conjecture
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2014 02:57 GMT
#3022
And honestly kel, you've been such a prick to so many people this game insulting them to the point that if you are town you can not help direct a lynch or convince anyone.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 03:01 GMT
#3023
Yay confirmed town is thick as pig shit.

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 03:07 GMT
#3024
If confirmed town play like imbeciles then i am going to call them idiots. If you are confirmed you have an obligation not be a fuckwit. Sorry i wont try and suck you off but you don't understand simple logic and i winder if you can even dress yourself
Zerg for Life
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2014 03:13 GMT
#3025
Yea ok mr. mafia its called curtesy instead of flying off the handle. If you don't understand this is a social game, and you actuallly have to be soc dexent to people instead of saying what you just did you need to check yourself.

You are using conjecture not logic atm, you aren't showing us or trying to convince just repeating the same dribble. So yea no reason to believe you
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 03:18 GMT
#3026
I wont sugar coat to soothe someones ego, confirmed town using bad reasoning or no reasoning to call you mafia is the stupidest thing ever.

again it isn't conjecture it is logic and you repeatedly fail to see it , wonder why i am frustrated. Actually take the tine to analyse what i say and you might learn something
Zerg for Life
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2014 03:23 GMT
#3027
Or you could stop being a dick and listen for once this game. You aren't analysing anything you have a hypothesis that yamato bussd robik for town cred when his life was in the balance and let it be noted that he could of died easily had everyone not switched or a good majority.

Its conjecture you aren't shoeing facts fr yamatos play or from robs filter. you are getting defensive and not listening. Now make something other than a working hypothesis please. Make a case that contains this piece that revolves aroind logical deduction instead of a narrative and calling it logic
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 03:30 GMT
#3028
Again you don't analyse what i say or take into account i have played massively town this game.

you don't think you just go along as town calling each other great and saying "oh yamato i hope you don't flip town" give me a fucking break.

if I'm mafia i cant afford to bus va , neither can wos. Yam is mafia
Zerg for Life
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2014 03:37 GMT
#3029
I have analyzed what you said. Yamato was scummy day one but was super towny night 1 onward. I do not think he is the mafia based on the cases he made, jumping on robik when he did when he could of killed xata instead. Or hard pushing hap when it was in sight to push a lynch on oneg which is very possible.

it is highly unlikely that yamato is scum for theae reasons.

That. is logic while it has flaws it makes sense has a clear line of thought roughly draws insite from the thread and has a believable conclussion.

Yours basically boils down to yamato is scum he bussed rob to get town cred when he didn't need to. but i had him town during night cycle and I've shown no evolution or reason to change that read.

please present a case and i will listen.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 03:44 GMT
#3030
God can no one think properly at all. I was waiting for yam to point out that WoS voting on Va doesn't matter because WiS needs 2 ML anyway and would be caught eventually. I guess yam would rather make dumb.jokes and.dam wants to pout and throw the word narrative around. Would have just helped me get 100% on yam as town.

but i guess people would rather get upset than try to understand the game.


yam is confirmed town i have been forcing that point before today. WoS and VA are the sxum
Zerg for Life
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2014 03:49 GMT
#3031
I'm going to bed and going to forget kels temper tantrum hopefully by the time i wake up
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 03:50 GMT
#3032
On August 28 2014 12:49 Damdred wrote:
I'm going to bed and going to forget kels temper tantrum hopefully by the time i wake up


I'm sorry you let yourself get so upset.
Zerg for Life
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2014 03:54 GMT
#3033
That's the thing I'm not upset I'm not throwing around insults and calling everyone shit. I'm actually giving solid adice and then your like

zomg i don't believe what I'm saying just trying to get yamatos reaction

and then random insults....sure I'm the upset one.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 28 2014 03:55 GMT
#3034
sorry kels

it's still over for you pal
Writer@WriterYamato
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
August 28 2014 04:05 GMT
#3035
I've PM'd this, but it might be better as a general warning: Flaming beyond reason is not acceptable. Do restrain yourselves, as I've now seen posts which are over the line of reason.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 04:11 GMT
#3036
On August 28 2014 12:54 Damdred wrote:
That's the thing I'm not upset I'm not throwing around insults and calling everyone shit. I'm actually giving solid adice and then your like

zomg i don't believe what I'm saying just trying to get yamatos reaction

and then random insults....sure I'm the upset one.


you shouldn't let yourself get so upset
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 04:12 GMT
#3037
On August 28 2014 12:55 yamato77 wrote:
sorry kels

it's still over for you pal


yeh your bad
Zerg for Life
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 28 2014 09:42 GMT
#3038
I don't care what GB wants any more. Guys. Bros. We're lynching KSC today, because of this irrefutable case on him. It's undeniable, and is totally convincing. Here it is:

If we lynch KelsierSC, he will stop posting in this thread. We will no longer have to read his posts.

##unvote
##vote KelsierSC

Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 28 2014 10:59 GMT
#3039
Here's my updated view on the state of game:

turtlevine is modconfirmed town. Me and Damdred are modconfirmed town unless someone counterclaims me (and that would have happened already).

Damdred has also felt exceptionally townish in the recent pages and I'm slightly bitter about that - I had already slightly townread him based on his persistent questions that reminded me of Arnie, and if he had posted yesterday like today, I would have certainly checked WOS/KSC instead. Shame on you Damdred

Yamato looks even more town after the recent pages. He's bold, confident and puts in actual effort, just like town yamato. I have no idea what happened to him during D1 but clearly he's changed for the better. As scum he would most likely just lurk more and more instead. 98% town.

So that just leaves us with VA/KSC/WOS and probably a quaranteed victory. BUT there's always a chance that the scumteam has additional KP or something else crazy that forces us to lynch correctly today. It would really feel bad to lose after lynching correctly every day until now, so we should still take this lynch seriously (looking at you WOS).

I think there's a chance for each of these players to be scum, but in fact the highest chance belongs to KelsierSC right now. Let me explain why:

1) GB's last efforts were to get KSC lynched. Scum KSC absolutely couldn't afford a confirmed townie that was after him to live. This isn't conclusive evidence, since killing a confirmed townie is never exactly bad for scum, but it just makes the most sense for scum KSC to kill GB. Similarly to how it made the most sense for SK Hapa to kill rayn.

2) I explained earlier how scum's primary objective right now should be to mislynch yamato (since otherwise they couldn't win without having an additional bullet or something like that). The only one that has been pushing this agenda is... KSC.

3) Earlier I thought that KSC's hard stances made him more townish. In hindsight, I think I've been mistaken. I think KSC's stances have been TOO hard. He's basically a materialization of confirmation bias - never accepting logic that doesn't fit with his current reads, and pushing his current reads like a madman without accepting counter-arguments. Then again, he tends to make HUGE shifts of opinion very easily. There's no evolution of reads; just a huge pre-planned tunnel for each day that fits his agenda. This isn't a townie playstyle after all.

4) His entrance to the game (and overall playstyle to some extent) has felt forced. He's not naturally engaging with the thread, but rather doing his utmost to look like he's "doing something" and pushing a Mafia agenda (spreading suspicion on me or other townies).

5) He didn't vote for Robik. He voted for ME instead. Enough said.

6) Connections! I think it's fairly obvious that VA is either VT or scum being bussed hard. I'm not sure which theory is more likely, but one thing is certain: KSC is scum in both cases. He would fit in the WOS/KSC team pushing for a mislynch on VA. He would also fit in the VA/KSC team where KSC is trying to get enough credibility pushing VA to mislynch yamato+WOS in the following days. WOS would only fit on the KSC/WOS team since WOS has been pushing VA for the longest time and he doesn't really appear to be pushing any agenda today (if he feels like the game is over and is scum with VA, he would just concede already).

7) He has been discrediting confirmed townies (GB, turtle, me, Damdred) CONSTANTLY. I mean pretty much most of his filter is devoted to that. There's absolutely no townie motivation for this whatsoever - a townie reaction would be to ignore or even advice a confirmed townie if he's on the wrong path. Discrediting confirmed townies only achieves scum objectives: confusion, distrust and infighting among the town. It's simply counterproductive for creating a town circle to try and make people ignore the confirmed members in it. As town you wouldn't waste your time on something that useless.

I don't think my vote will be moving today.

##Unvote
##Vote KelsierSC
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 28 2014 11:04 GMT
#3040
On August 28 2014 18:42 turtlevine wrote:
I don't care what GB wants any more. Guys. Bros. We're lynching KSC today, because of this irrefutable case on him. It's undeniable, and is totally convincing. Here it is:

If we lynch KelsierSC, he will stop posting in this thread. We will no longer have to read his posts.

##unvote
##vote KelsierSC



Great minds think alike
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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