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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 28 2014 01:53 GMT
#2961
On August 28 2014 10:51 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
alternatively I ate a roleblock but I hvae no way of confirming that so just stupid speculation. Game isnt won yet considering mafia could have a vig or something so dont just coast we have to get the right lynch here

you could have eaten a roleblock but you claimed a check?

##Vote VayneAuthority


Read the thread. VA unclaimed JOAT before deadline.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 01:53 GMT
#2962
On August 28 2014 10:51 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:47 Xatalos wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:45 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:44 Xatalos wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:43 KelsierSC wrote:
but he just looks super fucking scummy today, and he potentially outs the real PR, I just hate it as VT play which makes me think he isn't VT


Unfortunately it's completely in line with his usual VT play :/


really

So just play like shit and get a free pass.

Done with this


That's the problem with playing well I guess. If you play dumb as town, nobody will ever expect anything from you as scum.

With that said I don't think it's completely impossible for VA to be scum. Just that it seems a bit unlikely with WOS gunning so hard for him during D2 and now you too. This isn't really the time to bus for scum so it's hard to imagine him as a member of any scumteam.


I just don't even anymore.

Look at his fucking play and explain how that is town.



I can see some town motivation in his fakeclaim (trying to eat a bullet / roleblock) and since basically everyone non-confirmed wants to lynch him right now, I have extreme difficulties seeing him as scum.


ok i have explained this before, how is his play town motivated at all because he likely outs the real cop, he looks super fucking scummy today, all it helped him do was survive to another day.
Zerg for Life
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 28 2014 01:55 GMT
#2963
On August 28 2014 10:53 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:51 yamato77 wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
alternatively I ate a roleblock but I hvae no way of confirming that so just stupid speculation. Game isnt won yet considering mafia could have a vig or something so dont just coast we have to get the right lynch here

you could have eaten a roleblock but you claimed a check?

##Vote VayneAuthority


Read the thread. VA unclaimed JOAT before deadline.

unclaimed

more like lied

and then lied again

to cover why he he didn't die

with a fucking cop check
Writer@WriterYamato
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 28 2014 01:56 GMT
#2964
On August 28 2014 10:53 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:51 Xatalos wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:47 Xatalos wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:45 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:44 Xatalos wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:43 KelsierSC wrote:
but he just looks super fucking scummy today, and he potentially outs the real PR, I just hate it as VT play which makes me think he isn't VT


Unfortunately it's completely in line with his usual VT play :/


really

So just play like shit and get a free pass.

Done with this


That's the problem with playing well I guess. If you play dumb as town, nobody will ever expect anything from you as scum.

With that said I don't think it's completely impossible for VA to be scum. Just that it seems a bit unlikely with WOS gunning so hard for him during D2 and now you too. This isn't really the time to bus for scum so it's hard to imagine him as a member of any scumteam.


I just don't even anymore.

Look at his fucking play and explain how that is town.



I can see some town motivation in his fakeclaim (trying to eat a bullet / roleblock) and since basically everyone non-confirmed wants to lynch him right now, I have extreme difficulties seeing him as scum.


ok i have explained this before, how is his play town motivated at all because he likely outs the real cop, he looks super fucking scummy today, all it helped him do was survive to another day.


I don't know what goes through VA's mind. Maybe he just didn't really consider the risk of outing another blue role? And thought it was a good idea to "sacrifice" himself?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 01:56 GMT
#2965
On August 28 2014 10:55 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:53 Xatalos wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:51 yamato77 wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
alternatively I ate a roleblock but I hvae no way of confirming that so just stupid speculation. Game isnt won yet considering mafia could have a vig or something so dont just coast we have to get the right lynch here

you could have eaten a roleblock but you claimed a check?

##Vote VayneAuthority


Read the thread. VA unclaimed JOAT before deadline.

unclaimed

more like lied

and then lied again

to cover why he he didn't die

with a fucking cop check


thank you
Zerg for Life
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 28 2014 01:57 GMT
#2966
On August 28 2014 10:55 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:53 Xatalos wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:51 yamato77 wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
alternatively I ate a roleblock but I hvae no way of confirming that so just stupid speculation. Game isnt won yet considering mafia could have a vig or something so dont just coast we have to get the right lynch here

you could have eaten a roleblock but you claimed a check?

##Vote VayneAuthority


Read the thread. VA unclaimed JOAT before deadline.

unclaimed

more like lied

and then lied again

to cover why he he didn't die

with a fucking cop check


Maybe he was just roleblocked / WIFOM left alive as a mislynch.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 01:57 GMT
#2967
On August 28 2014 10:56 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:53 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:51 Xatalos wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:47 Xatalos wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:45 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:44 Xatalos wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:43 KelsierSC wrote:
but he just looks super fucking scummy today, and he potentially outs the real PR, I just hate it as VT play which makes me think he isn't VT


Unfortunately it's completely in line with his usual VT play :/


really

So just play like shit and get a free pass.

Done with this


That's the problem with playing well I guess. If you play dumb as town, nobody will ever expect anything from you as scum.

With that said I don't think it's completely impossible for VA to be scum. Just that it seems a bit unlikely with WOS gunning so hard for him during D2 and now you too. This isn't really the time to bus for scum so it's hard to imagine him as a member of any scumteam.


Also at the time he claimed, everyone was on a VA/Onegu mindset. so he claims, we lynch onegu, Hey guess what Onegu flipped town.
such sacrifice.

I just don't even anymore.

Look at his fucking play and explain how that is town.



I can see some town motivation in his fakeclaim (trying to eat a bullet / roleblock) and since basically everyone non-confirmed wants to lynch him right now, I have extreme difficulties seeing him as scum.


ok i have explained this before, how is his play town motivated at all because he likely outs the real cop, he looks super fucking scummy today, all it helped him do was survive to another day.


I don't know what goes through VA's mind. Maybe he just didn't really consider the risk of outing another blue role? And thought it was a good idea to "sacrifice" himself?


Also at the time he claimed, everyone was on a VA/Onegu mindset. so he claims, we lynch onegu, Hey guess what Onegu flipped town.
such sacrifice.
Zerg for Life
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 28 2014 01:58 GMT
#2968
On August 28 2014 10:57 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:55 yamato77 wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:53 Xatalos wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:51 yamato77 wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
alternatively I ate a roleblock but I hvae no way of confirming that so just stupid speculation. Game isnt won yet considering mafia could have a vig or something so dont just coast we have to get the right lynch here

you could have eaten a roleblock but you claimed a check?

##Vote VayneAuthority


Read the thread. VA unclaimed JOAT before deadline.

unclaimed

more like lied

and then lied again

to cover why he he didn't die

with a fucking cop check


Maybe he was just roleblocked / WIFOM left alive as a mislynch.

no
Writer@WriterYamato
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 28 2014 01:59 GMT
#2969
On August 28 2014 10:57 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:55 yamato77 wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:53 Xatalos wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:51 yamato77 wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
alternatively I ate a roleblock but I hvae no way of confirming that so just stupid speculation. Game isnt won yet considering mafia could have a vig or something so dont just coast we have to get the right lynch here

you could have eaten a roleblock but you claimed a check?

##Vote VayneAuthority


Read the thread. VA unclaimed JOAT before deadline.

unclaimed

more like lied

and then lied again

to cover why he he didn't die

with a fucking cop check


Maybe he was just roleblocked / WIFOM left alive as a mislynch.

The thing is, IT DOESN'T MATTER
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 28 2014 02:01 GMT
#2970
In any case the confirmed town are pretty much me, Damdred and turtlevine. Scum will certainly shoot into us tonight (most likely me, unless they decide just to roleblock). We have one mislynch so we can lynch 3 out of VA/KSC/WOS/yamato. The only way for scum to win is to lynch the 2 townies in this group of 4 before getting lynched themselves. There's no room to bus, that would make it extremely hard to push 2 mislynches alone. So I can't really see VA being scum with all the other non-confirmed players (WOS, KSC, yamato) pushing for him. I think 2 scum + 1 one misguided townie (yamato?) are pushing for him.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 28 2014 02:03 GMT
#2971
Anyways I really need to go sleep now. I'll think about the situation again tomorrow. In the meanwhile, I'd like turtlevine's opinion as well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 28 2014 02:03 GMT
#2972
I'm suddenly in the lynch pool

Xata, you are the worst cop in history.
Writer@WriterYamato
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 28 2014 02:06 GMT
#2973
On August 28 2014 11:03 yamato77 wrote:
I'm suddenly in the lynch pool

Xata, you are the worst cop in history.


I think I did pretty well avoiding NK's and roleblocks, giving town a major advantage with 2 confirmed town in this situation and voting for scum/SK every day. I still don't think you're scum but everything needs to be considered. Now I'm off to sleep.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2014 02:08 GMT
#2974
Heres the thing, There are now three people on VA, two people are on WOS, two people aren't voting. The two people are me and turtle (both confirmed town). So mafia are busing someone here to gain cred and that doesn't make sense to me, it seems like VA is the mislynch

The scum team is WOS/Kel I think
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:10 GMT
#2975
##Vote VayneAuthority

I'm going to give my defense here.

I was aggressive and pushed my reads

I had logical and consistent reasons for all my reads, a lot of you didn't like my heuristic but I stuck to it.

I was constantly trying to figure out the game, A lot of people will point to me "trying to save hapa" but I was trying to ensure town did not lose. hapa lynch was a highly risky play I still maintain that.

GB is an idiot, look at his and turtles filter. turtle didnt have a reason for me being mafia he just called me mafia because GB said so. GB had no reasons either. he "analysed a post" none of the things he analysed make me scum. his early read on me being scum was because of the rayn kill which was obviously made by hapa. I was genuinely frustrated and angry with him rather than just sucking his dick.

Lots of people have called me and read me as town. JAT, dam, Xat has been reading me town, Yam has been reading me town. WoS has been reading me town. pretty much everyone has called me town at some point.

The only reason I can see for people reading me scum is because Xat has some dumb fucking reason to believe that VA is somehow VT and his play was town orientated, like use your brain dude.

I Think Yam has to actually be mafia here. he can happily vote on VA here because he knows town will kill WoS and when he flips town kill me to win the game.
I guess he bussed Robik, gg



Zerg for Life
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 28 2014 02:13 GMT
#2976
I have to be mafia?

Ugh.
Writer@WriterYamato
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:14 GMT
#2977
On August 28 2014 11:13 yamato77 wrote:
I have to be mafia?

Ugh.


WoS can't afford to bus VA, neither can I

you can because town will just lynch me and WoS.

PoE
Zerg for Life
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 28 2014 02:15 GMT
#2978
That last paragraph is easily the worst thing I've ever read in the history of mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2014 02:15 GMT
#2979
Except your wrong because turtle has given VA hell all game or atleast about his claim....

Can we just lynch kel instead and go from their?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 28 2014 02:15 GMT
#2980
On August 28 2014 11:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 11:13 yamato77 wrote:
I have to be mafia?

Ugh.


WoS can't afford to bus VA, neither can I

you can because town will just lynch me and WoS.

PoE

no wait

it got worse
Writer@WriterYamato
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