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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:27 GMT
#973
I really just don't think useless yamato is scum yamato. Like look at this:

http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1785&pid=119817#pid119817

He's basically lynching someone because he just dislikes him. (he also said geript was scum but the stronger motive was clearly just to kill him)

And he also goes AFK for long periods of time and gets scumread by pretty much everyone but me and rayn. Still there's clearly at least some effort to do something. Unlike in the PYP game. And like in this game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:31 GMT
#976
On August 23 2014 09:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 08:39 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 23 2014 08:39 yamato77 wrote:
So, what exactly made you change your mind about Rayn?


The sheer persistence of spam over the last few pages. It's quite impressive.


Dropping Rayn because he is spamming is like the worst shift of opinions someone who knows Rayn could have


Can you link to a game where scum rayn becomes furious at someone accusing him and goes 100% OMGUS though? Or goes into total spam mode? He did that in Neat & Tidy Mafia as town....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:33 GMT
#978
On August 23 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 09:27 Xatalos wrote:
I really just don't think useless yamato is scum yamato. Like look at this:

http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1785&pid=119817#pid119817

He's basically lynching someone because he just dislikes him. (he also said geript was scum but the stronger motive was clearly just to kill him)

And he also goes AFK for long periods of time and gets scumread by pretty much everyone but me and rayn. Still there's clearly at least some effort to do something. Unlike in the PYP game. And like in this game.


can you explain in this game the effort he did apart from sheep Happ's read and post random shit


Like this is the level of effort he shows as scum:

On March 07 2014 04:13 yamato77 wrote:
I don't have the motivation to not get lynched this game.

Whatever.


Here he's at least done *something*. Shared reads that seemed okay. Pushed rayn. Etc.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:36 GMT
#980
On August 23 2014 09:32 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Hapahauli

You've brought good arguments regarding Rayn being mafia, but not centr for him being mafia. You easily dropped that bit case for things Rayn does regardless alignment. I think you're scum.


Are you saying they're both scum or something >.> That sounds pretty impossible. Or that Hapa is just more scummy than rayn -> rayn town?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:37 GMT
#981
On August 23 2014 09:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 09:31 Xatalos wrote:
On August 23 2014 09:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 23 2014 08:39 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 23 2014 08:39 yamato77 wrote:
So, what exactly made you change your mind about Rayn?


The sheer persistence of spam over the last few pages. It's quite impressive.


Dropping Rayn because he is spamming is like the worst shift of opinions someone who knows Rayn could have


Can you link to a game where scum rayn becomes furious at someone accusing him and goes 100% OMGUS though? Or goes into total spam mode? He did that in Neat & Tidy Mafia as town....


I'm on a phone, so I can't link but I can give you the directions to titanic IV. You were at that game. Rayn exploded on koshi


Hm yeah he did spam a bit insulting Koshi. It was different though in the sense that it was just useless spam (since he townread Koshi anyway). Here he's at least pushing something with his spam.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:38 GMT
#982
Like in Neat & Tidy.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:43 GMT
#985
On August 23 2014 09:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
## mafia, i was mafia with him so I remember that one clearly. he went crazy with spam but he was mafia.

I dont think hes mafia here at any rate, thats not how you read him. He's being unreasonable but was making sense before so looks more like town rayn.

scum rayn makes zer0 sense and then goes nuts to make the thread even more unreadable


His read on Damdred made zero sense though :/ Or why he needed to validate about yamato being scummy instead of just saying "yamato is scum" or something like he usually does.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:45 GMT
#986
Link to ## Mafia?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 01:11 GMT
#989
I just realized that rayn never followed up with his "ultimate plan" of reading me using the MafiaTools stunt... What's up with that rayn???
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 01:12 GMT
#990
On August 23 2014 09:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 09:32 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Hapahauli

You've brought good arguments regarding Rayn being mafia, but not centr for him being mafia. You easily dropped that bit case for things Rayn does regardless alignment. I think you're scum.


If I'm reading this correctly...
1) I brought good arguments against Rayn
2) I dropped that case too early regardless of my alignment
3) I am mafia

This does not logically follow, nor does it make you look good.


You forget that GB is pretty confirmed again though
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 01:18 GMT
#991
On November 04 2013 10:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am so fucking pissed off right now.
people call me scum. i get that.
reasons? there is notnere?+
hi kush? "rayn is scum" <- "i have a townread on him, he is so town"

Who, besides marv has a scumread on me? noone.
and marv is..., rofl.
marv, if you lynch me this game, i will make sure i devote all my games into lynching you from D1 onwards. And i actually do play all the games so... <3

step off your tunnel and think about this game. if you are non-town in this game i will make everything in my power to ACTUALLY ALWAYS LYNCH YOU EVERYTIME EVER!


On November 04 2013 13:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marvellosity. if you are town you will vote for Promethelax based purely on that post.
this game is so shit and hilarious i am going to make only one post any more. rofl townie guys, seriously rofl if you can't see the obvious.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Promethelax


Yeah... rayn did somewhat explode there too. Not exactly as bad as here but still.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 01:19 GMT
#992
I guess his spam isn't that towny after all.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 10:20 GMT
#1062
On August 23 2014 16:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like, i know my posts appear as bad or scummy sometimes because i do not explain myself. That is NOT scummy. All the good players do know that because they look behind the actual words - they look at the meaning of the words. Why people say the stuff they do. I ALWAYS have an agenda for the stuff i say whether or not i explain it.

Hapa is one of the few players who is REALLY good in reading into this. He just cannot do that as mafia because idk why, he just can't. Probably because he hates being mafia. In this game he is clearly showing he is not thinking about the game and those things - even though i have, in THIS GAME, said this is EXACTLY how i play. Even if it was not clear to him before this game THIS GAME SHOULD PROVE i am telling the truth.

He is not figuring out stuff how he would as town. I do not know how to explain it better as i am bad at explaining shit.
I however promised to play my best game this game and as my alignment is town you should kill Hapa with fire because he is mafia. I will tell who the rest of the mafia team is on N1. Now we lynch Hapahauli.


If you blame Hapa for accusing you without reading the thread properly, then you also did the same thing with Damdred (just looked at his filter without reading the surrounding posts in the thread)... And I don't really see the town agenda in saying "nobody thinks yamato looks suspicious yet?".
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 10:22 GMT
#1063
I somehow get the feeling that rayn could believe what he's saying here though. The way he repeats it in different ways and feels really confident every time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 10:28 GMT
#1064
turtlevine, your opinion? If you're such a meta-expert on rayn/Hapa?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 10:31 GMT
#1065
On August 23 2014 01:21 turtlevine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 11:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Talk to me. I want people to talk to me. Talk to me now. Now.


based on this guy's attempts to pow-wow
and ideas I can't share right now
if he's scum I'd be shocked
to him I will talked
and we'll be upon this game's prow.

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 11:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Rayn would 100% wait up for his role and if he were town he would have posted. Hell, he might have even just stayed up and played the game. He does it all the time as town. He always finds a reason to pussy out and not post when he's mafia


I don't believe this heuristic
is town rayn always a dick?
The answer is "no"
so it just goes to show
don't listen to IAmRobik

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 11:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like sadly KSC is in for a very rude awakening if he thinks useless/non-tryhard people are scum on this forum.


WOS is correct on this front
your typical town player's a c***,
but with effort so clean,
KSC's surely green,
so if you think he's scum go get bent.

Though I must add onto this point
this post does not to WoS annoint
he's wasted some posts
on flames spam and boasts
not what I'd expect from a vet.

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 12:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 22 2014 12:10 Damdred wrote:
@Gb you said most likely to be mafia out of those posted talk to me why its him


(1)He is too aggressive page 1. Being aggressive is a town play, but being too aggressive with too little information sounds scummy to me or beginner's paranoia. I was like that when I was a newbie and I did that last game against Rayn when I was mafia. (2) his entrance is a tcontributing post which doesn't days much actually. He could be trying to look contributive while being mafia. (3) free town passes. He gave a town pass to Robik but didn't to WoS and they were in the same level of "rudeness". Tbh, those three items post on WoS were valid, but WoS is an easy target if you consider all those items already in the beginning of day 1.


Although I can see what you say
lynching KSC's the wrong play
the only good point here's 2,
and although that one's true,
his aggression and town passes are not astray

The basic mistake of a townie at first
is to put in way too much efforts
and if his ideas are crap
that's not the right strat
scum idea isn't so stupid it hurts


Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 13:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
is this game gluten free?


Is this some kind of new crumb
or am I just being dumb?
i know not the memes
of tl mafia it seems
and I wouldn't want to miss out on the fun.

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 17:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
turtlevine which continent are you from?


Though it compromises my identity to say,
I'll share: I'm from the US of A
I'd rather stay cloaked
in the mystery evoked
by my smurf and my nice turns of phrase


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?page=11#210

Looking at Xat's odd numbered list list,
I'm starting to feel kind of pissed,
it's classic list post,
unhelpful at most,
made without a clear focused scum jist.

he starts with a question at dam,
and then there's an apology to him,
that vote post is bad,
though it makes my heart glad,
I think I've finally found scum.



So far I'm up to page twelve
it seems I'm moderately whelmed
I'll continue these thoughts
after I've finished a walk,
and deeper into thread I will delve!

##vote xatalos


Well he did think I'm scum for the listpost/vote so...... >.> But maybe he's good at using meta or something?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 10:38 GMT
#1066
Btw didn't someone say that VA's meta is to be trolly as town and serious as scum? He's been pretty serious here IMO....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 10:39 GMT
#1067
WOS disappearance is weird. Come back to the thread.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 10:42 GMT
#1068
On August 23 2014 07:29 Damdred wrote:
Nvm it felt fot a second you were soft claiming something anyway....yea tge thread atmosphere has went to crap


Hmm. rayn saying that Damdred could be SK actually makes a bit of sense. Looking at Damdred's filter there are some odd points like him looking for bluetells and being really passive in the whole rayn/Hapa debate. Dropped some points.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 10:45 GMT
#1069
On August 23 2014 10:25 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 09:33 Xatalos wrote:
On August 23 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 23 2014 09:27 Xatalos wrote:
I really just don't think useless yamato is scum yamato. Like look at this:

http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1785&pid=119817#pid119817

He's basically lynching someone because he just dislikes him. (he also said geript was scum but the stronger motive was clearly just to kill him)

And he also goes AFK for long periods of time and gets scumread by pretty much everyone but me and rayn. Still there's clearly at least some effort to do something. Unlike in the PYP game. And like in this game.


can you explain in this game the effort he did apart from sheep Happ's read and post random shit


Like this is the level of effort he shows as scum:

On March 07 2014 04:13 yamato77 wrote:
I don't have the motivation to not get lynched this game.

Whatever.


Here he's at least done *something*. Shared reads that seemed okay. Pushed rayn. Etc.


I just don't agree with this statement at all. He only pushed rayn after Happa. Before that he had given one read on WoS. it was a pretty good read but not massively insightful and then he shut up for ages living on his town read.

He said that rayn "went after him" for a pretty reasonable question. Also notice Yam didn't have a problem with the question at the time. Just let it slide.

So he gave 2 reads, one which was an early game simple read and the other that was a sheep of a bad read like. I just don't see why you read him so hard town.


I don't necessarily think he's obvtown anymore. Still his scumplay is so bad (worse than this IMO) that even if he somehow managed to play like this as scum, he won't be able to keep it up I bet.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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