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abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1940 Posts
August 29 2014 09:01 GMT
#521
Also - I do know that what I have said about Superbia now does not match my thoughts of him in my previous post, but as I said before, This is just a theory of mine, as off the top of my head, I cannot find a reason for anyone else to roleblock me.
I don't believe you.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 29 2014 09:10 GMT
#522
What you just said there rings a huge bell...

In your 2nd quote, you quoted yourself saying you had a read about lilwade but were not sure about him yet and you quoted Jenny posting something similar...
Do you think mafia might have been seeing this as a claim of one of you hinting at having a powerrole based on that statements?
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1940 Posts
August 29 2014 09:23 GMT
#523
On August 29 2014 18:10 Barakos wrote:
What you just said there rings a huge bell...

In your 2nd quote, you quoted yourself saying you had a read about lilwade but were not sure about him yet and you quoted Jenny posting something similar...
Do you think mafia might have been seeing this as a claim of one of you hinting at having a powerrole based on that statements?


Maybe, but in that case I am surprised that wade wasn't the one to die tonight.
I don't believe you.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 29 2014 09:29 GMT
#524
I am more surprised that you weren't the one to die, since they obviouly had you as a powerrole and I don't see many scenarios in which you would get protected over Jenny, Superbia and me. Seems like a strange call, mafia made in this night.

Still not making sense out of the kill on meatpudding.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1940 Posts
August 29 2014 09:40 GMT
#525
Sometimes keeping a person alive is important, because killing them would draw suspicions on you the next day.
So a question rises - who would be suspected if I died during the night and was revealed as town.
I don't believe you.
Daydreamarine
Profile Joined August 2014
Netherlands35 Posts
August 29 2014 09:56 GMT
#526
A short question: As far as I am concerned there are two Jailkeepers: One for each team.

Am I correct that the jailed person who was jailed by the town team was shown on screen and the jailed person that was jailed by the mafia team was not shown on screen?
Daydreamarine
Profile Joined August 2014
Netherlands35 Posts
August 29 2014 09:57 GMT
#527
I mean obviously not the real nickname of that person but only the princess name and role.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 29 2014 10:02 GMT
#528
The answer is obvious. Superbia would look really suspicious, if you flipped town after all the fighting, you two had. But this answer is way too obvious, so for now I am not sold on this 100%.

I am off to my lunchbreak now, so no further analysis on who would profit in an non-obvious way. This will be one of the many things we need to figure out till EoD. Thank god it's friday.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 29 2014 10:08 GMT
#529
I don't understand your question 100% but this here should help clear things up for you:


On August 10 2014 07:34 Amiko wrote:
In sum, the setups will be RNG'd among the following:
(A) Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, 1-Shot Bulletproof Town, 6x Vanilla Town
(B) 2x Mafia Goon, Town Cop, 7x Vanilla Town
(C) 2x Mafia Goon, Town Doctor, Town Tracker, 6x Vanilla Town
(1) 2x Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, 7x Vanilla Town
(2) Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, 6x Vanilla Town
(3) 2x Mafia Goon, 1-Shot Bullteproof Town, Town Tracker, 6x Vanilla Town

Mafia KP is always 1. Mafia may not no-kill, but may self-target their KP.
Mafia roleblocker may roleblock and night-kill in the same night.
Mafia roleblocker's action resolves before a Jailer's action.


In setup A there are two blocking-roles in roleblock and jailkeeper.
Given, that abuse was blocked, this is one possible scenario of role-distribution.
Ohter possible scenarios are 1 and 2 with either a jailkeeper and nobody else being able to block someone or a mafia roleblocker with again nobody else to block someone.

We can't be sure, which scenario we are in yet, since we don't know about other powerroles except for somebody being able to roleblock/jail somebody.

As for, what is shown "on screen" as far as I understand it, the blocked / jailed person recieves a message. In abuses case, he choose to reveal his message to all of us. There is no further moderator-notification in this thread about blocks and jails, as far as i know.
Daydreamarine
Profile Joined August 2014
Netherlands35 Posts
August 29 2014 10:26 GMT
#530

As for, what is shown "on screen" as far as I understand it, the blocked / jailed person recieves a message. In abuses case, he choose to reveal his message to all of us. There is no further moderator-notification in this thread about blocks and jails, as far as i know.


Not correct, since one person was mentioned as banished.

meatpudding has been killed – Belle, the Beautiful Bookworm (Vanilla Town) has been banished!
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1940 Posts
August 29 2014 10:30 GMT
#531
@Daydreamarine,

Kills are shown to everyone, as in all mafia games.
Roleblocks and doctor saves/other actions are not revealed to everyone, only to those who were a part of it(in some setups this is not revealed even to them)
I don't believe you.
Daydreamarine
Profile Joined August 2014
Netherlands35 Posts
August 29 2014 10:35 GMT
#532
Ah I see now, so banished is a synonym for killed in this game and Vanilla Town was his role.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 29 2014 10:40 GMT
#533
That's correct. In the Night 1 - Post there was also mentioned that gobbledygook has been banished. So there is nothing you can read into the moderator-posts.

What about your read, you promised us, daydreamarine?
Daydreamarine
Profile Joined August 2014
Netherlands35 Posts
August 29 2014 10:47 GMT
#534
What about your read, you promised us, daydreamarine?


Thx for asking I am still preparing it. I will eat lunch shortly and then finish it.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 29 2014 12:17 GMT
#535
Jenny/ Superbia area you here? If so, what are your thoughts on this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/464494-newbie-lviii-disney-princess-mafia?page=27#523
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1940 Posts
August 29 2014 12:32 GMT
#536
On August 29 2014 18:29 Barakos wrote:
I am more surprised that you weren't the one to die, since they obviouly had you as a powerrole and I don't see many scenarios in which you would get protected over Jenny, Superbia and me. Seems like a strange call, mafia made in this night.

Still not making sense out of the kill on meatpudding.


I dont neccessarily agree with this statement by the way.
Jenny - yes.
You and superbia, not so much.

Also, I misread what you said before. I don't think mafia saw it as a claim of either me or jenny being a power role. I think mafia might have seen it as me and jenny hinting that lilwade might be.
I don't believe you.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 29 2014 12:41 GMT
#537
Fair enough, i can see, why you would put jenny as top town.

Now that you read my idea the right way... do you agree?
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1940 Posts
August 29 2014 12:49 GMT
#538
On August 29 2014 21:41 Barakos wrote:
Fair enough, i can see, why you would put jenny as top town.

Now that you read my idea the right way... do you agree?


I don't see how what we said implies that we are a power role, as there was no night phase before our statements were made. (if you think that we implied that we checked lilwade's role)
I don't believe you.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 29 2014 13:04 GMT
#539
That's exactly the point!
You both said you had some hint on lilwade, which you didn't want to give out but wanted to wait.
Somebody who reads this might interpret this as you waiting for a nightphase to check wade before giving out your tell.

Did I mix something up here? Do you really not see this logic? At this point I am trying to understand the block on you and this would be my best guess...
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1940 Posts
August 29 2014 13:14 GMT
#540
I guess it could be interpreted that way.
If they saw it that way and used their action based on this, then the question is why would they not want me to check wade.

That is only IF that is how they read it though. Because I probably wouldn't read it that way if I saw it at first.
I don't believe you.
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