EPTKoshi does not benefit anything from NOT shooting anyone.
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Koshi does not benefit anything from NOT shooting anyone. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Watever I'd rather lynch kush over rayn today, and will be voting to that effect if necessary. I still think VE is last scum. I'm not terrible idiot look at VE's gameplay he does literally nothing all game, is literally the only living person who hasn't voted for scum whatsoever, and all he has is a claim that is pure WIFOM to hide behind. I think he's scum. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On August 19 2014 01:24 HaruRH wrote: IN MY OPINION: 3 scenarios occured. Ill start with the most likely -> least likely. 1) scum wants ve to be a big question mark on lylo (next day), so they orchestrated a no shot and let ve assume he defended koshi. IMPLICATIONS: VE is medic. 2) ve actually saved koshi because scum dont want to kill me as a gambit, don't want to kill ve because he is up for lynch and thus went for koshi. IMPLICATIONS: VE is medic, koshi is town. 3) VE is scum and orchestrated this whole no shot fiasco so we will give him a townpass. IMPLICATIONS: VE is scum. 1) puts koshi back into the pool of scummers. 2) confirms both ve and koshi town. 3) confirms ve scum. I would actually go with 1) becausw of how the thread developed and how I can see a mafia agenda from kush's scumread on ve earlier on. Fun fact: kush, when town, NEVERRR AGREES WITH ME. NEVERRRR. So you think Koshi is scum?!?! I'll be back later. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
 Like a couple games ago he didn't vote in LYLO... | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
I think it's just more likely that I saved Koshi, but that's just from an objective standpoint - even if they can get a lynch on me, anyone who pushes it looks like shit when I flip. I think they thought I wouldn't save Koshi and that they WERE implicating me by shooting someone I wasn't saving. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On August 19 2014 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sn0 VE has unfortunately been useless as shit in the past games. Like a couple games ago he didn't vote in LYLO... #truth | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On August 19 2014 01:28 VisceraEyes wrote: I agree with that Haru except I'm not sure if anyone alive just "no-shot" this day - it's like, if they wanted me to be a question mark then why would they no-shoot? Doesn't killing someone achieve that? And if "?" is their goal, wouldn't killing someone cause even MORE doubt on me? I think it's just more likely that I saved Koshi, but that's just from an objective standpoint - even if they can get a lynch on me, anyone who pushes it looks like shit when I flip. I think they thought I wouldn't save Koshi and that they WERE implicating me by shooting someone I wasn't saving. No the thing is, the first thing that ran across most of our minds is 'VE FUCKING MADE A LAME ASS DRAMA 100% SCUM' and no shooting is definitely useful. It took some time for us to consider this option of you actually defending as a majority. AS A MAJORITY. DONT SHOW YOUR EPEEN WITH HOW YOU GOT THIS SHIT FIRST. 2) could be as likely. But I like 1) more. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
But I can see a no-shot too I guess. I just don't know who does it. Koshi is the only one I think, because he "KNEW" that I'd save him last night or something Koshiesque. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On August 19 2014 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE's most obvious save was Haru. That's why any other shot than Haru makes sense. That's why the save makes sense (while the target was terrible because if Haru gets killed VE is auto-lynched). If I was scum, I would have shot you instead. Without you around, there will be less draw power to vote. So its WIFOM to suggest that scum actually went for koshi and ve actually tried to save koshi. However, these 2 different scenarios are already covered by me and I still feel that having a no shot by scum aligns more with kush's scum intents. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Nah, I'm not going down that rabbit hole today. LOL | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On August 19 2014 01:34 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm just saying I'm not sure anyone in the game like, doesn't want to kill someone, you know? Presumably with only one left, that's a lot of fucking lynches. But I can see a no-shot too I guess. I just don't know who does it. Koshi is the only one I think, because he "KNEW" that I'd save him last night or something Koshiesque. How bout the guy who instantly pushed you for a no shot | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On August 19 2014 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Like, why are people calling me useless? I saved someone LAST NIGHT and I'm here trying to figure out the game. WTF is with this game? You gambled and won. If you hadn't won it would have put us in a terrible terrible situation. It does not make you any more useful than you have been regarding scumhunting. You basically OMGUS everything that doubts you and that's not really playing mafia. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On August 19 2014 01:34 HaruRH wrote: If I was scum, I would have shot you instead. Without you around, there will be less draw power to vote. So its WIFOM to suggest that scum actually went for koshi and ve actually tried to save koshi. However, these 2 different scenarios are already covered by me and I still feel that having a no shot by scum aligns more with kush's scum intents. Koshi has been right and i have not been here. There is no way kush would assume i flip my read on him and Koshi is way more likely to do so - especially with me not being around during weekend. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On August 17 2014 07:30 kushm4sta wrote: if ve was scum he also would have nked. so I dont see how this nk proves anything. actually I think it makes it more likely for ve to be scum, because if he was really doctor he would have probably missed. On August 17 2014 11:09 kushm4sta wrote: if i was scum and I knew there was a medic I would never in a million quadrillion years shoot koshi. VE you are saying scum thought you were holding a grudge against koshi because he scumread you, and so you wouldn't protect him, and then they based their nk on that? that is ridic Do you see how he is pushing ve immediately for the no shot? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Open your eyes already ffs. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
I'm not trying to argue against Kush lynch btw, I just want to clearly understand your point. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On August 19 2014 01:40 VisceraEyes wrote: Like, yeah, and I get it. That's mafia's only course really if they want to lynch me and not kill me in the night, which I'm pretty sure no matter who is mafia, they're not night-killing me SPECIFICALLY because town is just not thinking. But as you said, that was pretty much everyone's FIRST thought right? Didn't you JUST say that? So why does that make Kush scum here? I'm not trying to argue against Kush lynch btw, I just want to clearly understand your point. Most. Except rayn. If you haven't noticed, kush still thinks you're scum for the same reason I put up. Until now. Not considering other options. At all. Kush is scum because this is not his first thought - this is what he locked in as the only acceptable answer for the no kill. | ||
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