• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:45
CEST 07:45
KST 14:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent8Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues10LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments2Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris73
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy What happened to Singapore/Brazil servers? #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Production Quality - Maestros of the Game Vs RSL 2
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
FlaSh on ACS Winners being in ASL ASL20 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group A BWCL Season 63 Announcement [IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 986 users

[T] Cell (Mini?) Mafia III

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Normal
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 13 2014 02:12 GMT
#119
/in
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 13 2014 03:44 GMT
#130
On August 13 2014 12:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 11:12 Not really holyflare wrote:
/in


You're not from Brazil.
I'll policy lynch the hell out of you.

I was born in Zimbabwe, moved to Japan from 5 to 15, moved to north korea and now I serve as the royal guard for our almighty leader Kim Jung Un. I used to be an undercover in brazillian national force and now I am back to japan as an undercover for our lord kim on the 'anime' products that our only lord kim wants to use to attack south korea.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 24 2014 12:41 GMT
#183
right?
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 27 2014 23:01 GMT
#248
[image loading]


A VOTE FOR NOT REALLY HOLYFLARE IS ALSO A VOTE FOR OUR GLORIOUS LEADER


- Are you tired of muricans?
- Do you want enormous political and economical influence?
- Do you feel like you have too much FREEDOM in your life?
- Are you someone who aspire to be like our glorious leader Kim Jong Un and revel in anime master race culture?
- Do you want to bring a nuke to a sword fight?

[image loading]


If you have answered yes to all of these questions, then you are what our glorious leader needs. If you answered no to any of them, then you have too much freedom and you will definitely say yes after a few weeks of stay in our labor camp 5 star hotel. A quick gander at my profile will show you that I sport an amazing record of 0 games played on TL mafia and an 100% town rate; you can't get much more than that. Those who are born serving our glorious leader are naturally winners and cannot be stopped. They dispense absolute power with every breath they take, every drop of blood they spill, and every prisoner they whip. Those who are the enemies of our glorious leader shall be eradicated and nuked. Stand by our side, stand with our glorious leader and you shall never walk alone; but rather you will walk alongside all of us on the radiated cities of the west.

[image loading]

I may complain to our glorious leader about you for simply disagreeing with me about anything, I will not listen to a single one of your suggestions, I will give nukes and anime to a rebel faction in your country; but know that this is what our glorious leader wants. And if there is one thing that we, the dominators of the world, knows, it is absolute victory. Stand behind the banner of the red, white and blue, join the land of the powerful and the home of the true warriors; and you will find absolute victory and the absolute destruction of USA scum.

##Vote: not really holyflare


Here are what my supporters have to say:

On June 21 2014 01:03 Kim Jong Un wrote:
[image loading]

Welcome, my fellow comrades. We have gathered here for a single purpose: to eradicate the west. I have entrusted this task to my greatest general, Blazingdick not really holyflare, because of his powerful and commanding personality. Never had I have so many comrades grovelling at my feet, whom were all brought to me by not really holyflare.
- Do you want to be able to call everyone who disagrees with you a western pig?
- Do you want to BE excellence?

If your answer is yes for all the questions, give a round of applause to yourself for embracing how winners think.

[image loading]

However, we have zero tolerance for anyone against us, or not with us. Do note that with our recent technological advances, we had created a mailable nuke. It may or may not be just a mini nuke forced into an envelope, but you dumb americans will open it either way. If you do not want the solution to the world forced upon you, accept it and embrace it.

##Vote: not really holyflare

Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 00:28 GMT
#289
On August 28 2014 09:22 Professor Apathy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
You realise this is a points based game right? You are essentially saying that 2 50/50's (your group and ez read marvs group) should be after shit storms thus giving us the lower chance to win?

the reason I want to be last is because I tend to be one of the most shitstorm creating guys on TL whenever I have to defend myself but I know to be town, so yeah...
I have no reason to believe that B or D will be a shitstorm. The only one I'm really worried about is A so far and I'd rather be done with it early in this case because that means we have people like you, Marv and me still around judging the situation.


Well, there will be a shitstorm in cell D for sure when mtam figures out who I am. I had beef with mtam. Once. And it was a glorious shitstorm.
I be disappointed amiko have not figured out who I am yet. You're a dastardly dead lover in my eyes.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 00:33 GMT
#292
On August 28 2014 09:22 Professor Apathy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
You realise this is a points based game right? You are essentially saying that 2 50/50's (your group and ez read marvs group) should be after shit storms thus giving us the lower chance to win?

the reason I want to be last is because I tend to be one of the most shitstorm creating guys on TL whenever I have to defend myself but I know to be town, so yeah...
I have no reason to believe that B or D will be a shitstorm. The only one I'm really worried about is A so far and I'd rather be done with it early in this case because that means we have people like you, Marv and me still around judging the situation.

Btw if you're robik you deserve my applause
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 01:10 GMT
#311
Its simple.

A -> D -> C -> B -> E.

A because bh gets harder to read as time passes on.
D next because I'm confident I can lynch the sad merican mafia in a 50/50.
C because marv gets less confident of his reads later on.
B because hf& wos needs time to choose who is mafia.
E last because.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 01:17 GMT
#319
On August 28 2014 10:14 Professor Apathy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:10 Not really holyflare wrote:
Its simple.

A -> D -> C -> B -> E.

A because bh gets harder to read as time passes on.
D next because I'm confident I can lynch the sad merican mafia in a 50/50.
C because marv gets less confident of his reads later on.
B because hf& wos needs time to choose who is mafia.
E last because.

that's close to my order. How about we put our votes together and you vote me with a compromise on both sides.

I've got
D -> A -> B -> C -> E, and
A -> D -> C -> B -> E. is what you got

what do you say about D -> A -> C -> B -> A?


How about you vote me and so I can set the groups at D -> A -> C -> B -> E?
Since my group will be the first, I literally cannot change the ordering without being lynched for lying. Easier to vote for me, don't you think?
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 01:26 GMT
#331
On August 28 2014 10:24 Professor Apathy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:17 Not really holyflare wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:14 Professor Apathy wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:10 Not really holyflare wrote:
Its simple.

A -> D -> C -> B -> E.

A because bh gets harder to read as time passes on.
D next because I'm confident I can lynch the sad merican mafia in a 50/50.
C because marv gets less confident of his reads later on.
B because hf& wos needs time to choose who is mafia.
E last because.

that's close to my order. How about we put our votes together and you vote me with a compromise on both sides.

I've got
D -> A -> B -> C -> E, and
A -> D -> C -> B -> E. is what you got

what do you say about D -> A -> C -> B -> A?


How about you vote me and so I can set the groups at D -> A -> C -> B -> E?
Since my group will be the first, I literally cannot change the ordering without being lynched for lying. Easier to vote for me, don't you think?

but but... I want to be mayor

fine but I'll unvote the second you change that order. And I assume that last A in your post was an E because you got group A twice in there. Don't even think about playing dirty tricks on me if that wasn't a typo!

that was YOUR typo by the way.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 01:35 GMT
#334
On August 28 2014 10:23 Amiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:14 Holyflare wrote:
Also lilwade is probably definitely 100% mafia. He's posted in his newbie game quite a few times since we got our pm's and not here at all


I think this happened with some other people (foolishness, maybe gumshoe) and at least one flipped town, maybe both.
Anyway they were just reaching deadline in the newbie game so I wouldn't chalk it up to much.

That said I still think E earlier may be better since Apathy is fairly active and I feel bunnies should be.


But activity =/= easy to read.
I have to admit that I never read bunnies correctly in the games I have played with her.
Apathy feels like a potential coin flip.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 01:48 GMT
#350
Thats why we go DACBE.
C for guaranteed 1 scum lynch (unless marv derps) while A and D goes first. B for more risks and E being the most risky group to lynch into.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 01:53 GMT
#356
On August 28 2014 10:49 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:48 Not really holyflare wrote:
Thats why we go DACBE.
C for guaranteed 1 scum lynch (unless marv derps) while A and D goes first. B for more risks and E being the most risky group to lynch into.



I haven't read the thread, because none of you worms are close enough to my level to merit my attention, and today is a lynch day. However, this statement intrigues me. Why do we have a guaranteed scum lynch in C?

Kek uncced medic lynched

Firstly, with both hf and wos at 4th, they are guaranteed to catch marv if he is scum - and theres 0 chance that both hf and wos are scum, so theres always 1 guy that can reliably call marv scum and get a lynch on him.
However, if marv is town, the 50/50 in his group will become less so given how marv plays his town. I would say his group have the highest chance to catch scum and help prevent a 3 - 0 scum sweep.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 01:56 GMT
#365
On August 28 2014 10:53 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:48 Not really holyflare wrote:
Thats why we go DACBE.
C for guaranteed 1 scum lynch (unless marv derps) while A and D goes first. B for more risks and E being the most risky group to lynch into.


Why not make that group go first?


Are you even thinking
If marv is town, he cannot help find scum in first few groups
If marv is scum, he (kinda) gets a free pass for not trying since there is literally nothing to try, and nobody lynches marv d1.

Putting C in first is worst idea ever.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 01:58 GMT
#368
On August 28 2014 10:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:54 Amiko wrote:
@BH:

I feel like your ordering is strongly based on the idea that marv will lead lynches in a good way / scumhunt well.

But, even under that approach isn't it beneficial to put Cell C before D5? That way at least there's some indication as to the authenticity of marv's reads.


You mean something like DEACB? It's plausible, and I would not be opposed to it. Why don't you run on the DEACB platform, and I'll run on DEABC, and I promise to throw my votes your way if you're ahead of me close to the deadline (and vice versa) so that a DEA B/C order wins?


No. C goes 3rd as that is the most pro town way to do it. C literally have the highest % chance to catch scum. A literally dont have as high of a chance. We don't need a 3 - 0 scum sweep. 3-1 is at least less embarrassing.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 01:59 GMT
#369
On August 28 2014 10:57 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:56 Not really holyflare wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:53 mtamburini wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:48 Not really holyflare wrote:
Thats why we go DACBE.
C for guaranteed 1 scum lynch (unless marv derps) while A and D goes first. B for more risks and E being the most risky group to lynch into.


Why not make that group go first?


Are you even thinking
If marv is town, he cannot help find scum in first few groups
If marv is scum, he (kinda) gets a free pass for not trying since there is literally nothing to try, and nobody lynches marv d1.

Putting C in first is worst idea ever.


But its guarenteed no? So why not take a 1-0 early lead.


Guaranteed AFTER marv actually posts
I have all the reason to think you're scum now for being anti town
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 02:04 GMT
#373
On August 28 2014 10:59 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:58 Not really holyflare wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:56 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:54 Amiko wrote:
@BH:

I feel like your ordering is strongly based on the idea that marv will lead lynches in a good way / scumhunt well.

But, even under that approach isn't it beneficial to put Cell C before D5? That way at least there's some indication as to the authenticity of marv's reads.


You mean something like DEACB? It's plausible, and I would not be opposed to it. Why don't you run on the DEACB platform, and I'll run on DEABC, and I promise to throw my votes your way if you're ahead of me close to the deadline (and vice versa) so that a DEA B/C order wins?


No. C goes 3rd as that is the most pro town way to do it. C literally have the highest % chance to catch scum. A literally dont have as high of a chance. We don't need a 3 - 0 scum sweep. 3-1 is at least less embarrassing.


3-1 and 3-0 are both the same, which is a loss. I don't give a shit how we lose if we lose, I care about maximizing our chance to win. There's no honor or sportsmanship or bullshit like that in mafia, only winning and losing. The sooner you learn that the sooner you'll be good at this game like me.


so why do you want to go 2nd so badly? Or else why not DACBE? Why DEACB? You worried your scumminess will show after 2 days?

Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 02:05 GMT
#374
3rd* you worried you dont have enough time to fight off lynches with 3 days?
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 02:12 GMT
#376
How confident that you can read nb/lilwade/smurf? Because from what I see, its the top 3 most risky groups in first 3. Bad.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 04:32 GMT
#385
@nb

Out of the 5 cells:

A: ritoky, bh, bat.

This might be a potentially easy group to decide since ritoky have (almost) never played scum in tl while bat have a very distinct scum playstyle. Thetefore, being 2nd won't hurt them.

B:hf, mm1, wos.

This group is very straightforward at later stages of the game. Hf is hard to pin d1-3 while mm1 is the easy lynch here. Therefore, 2nd from last.

C: marv, amiko, oats

Marv is really easy to read (for hf/wos apparently) and this group is kinda the easiest to lynch scum. Thetefore, 3rd.

D:mtam/me/your mom

Mtam is very easy to meta. (If you knew who I am, you would agree). It looks daunting to have 2 smurfs, but 1 of the smurf is the town hero. I'll get a win for town.

E: empathy/lilwade/nb

Idk who is empathy, but I know that lilwade is hard to read since hes new and nb, you're hard to read too. therefore, most optimally, you guys need to stay back and be the last group.

Therefore, DACBE
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 29 2014 01:36 GMT
#647
On August 29 2014 10:30 Amiko wrote:
Oh sidethought I wanted to ask
@Anyone else who said Cell C was an easy cell to read - this was at least NotReallyHolyflare and I think also Apathy
Why do you feel this is the case?
I have never been scum on forum mafia, so I don't see why it would be easy to read me as town/scum. Even if marv is easy to read, do you feel that confident about reading Oats? Give some basis on this


Yes. Oats is like 99.9999% scum now because I think you're town.

Because I trust that you may be 99.9999% town, ill sheep you for catching a mistake that bh shouldn't have done.

Bat posted. Not scum.
Ritoky MIGHT be scum because his town was analytical. This is bullshit ritoky.

Anyway, scratch that. Ritoky is scum.

##Vote: ritoky
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 29 2014 14:04 GMT
#770
On August 29 2014 22:59 Holyflare wrote:
So if you can't decide how come everyone else can?? Are these people suspicious? What's going on? You aren't really doing anything productive whatsoever


quoted since original holyflare is asking nb what I want to ask

and why would BH be more scummy than ritoky?
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 29 2014 14:36 GMT
#772
On August 29 2014 23:05 marvellosity wrote:
nothing ritoky has done has been scummy


marv, either you turned into a girl, or you cant read.

Ritoky, while he has been posting, is not town ritoky I'm used to. So like, I know I read him wrong often, and maybe I should flip my vote, but Town Ritoky wouldn't just focus on figuring out his cell. He would also offer information on other cells. He didn't offer any information on other cells until AFTER I said something about it.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 29 2014 14:38 GMT
#773
But Idk how to read BH. So like, I agree, he seems to be doing nothing but whining, but is that town BH or mafia BH? Idk.

Ritoky, while he has been posting, is not town ritoky I'm used to. So like, I know I read him wrong often, and maybe I should flip my vote, but Town Ritoky wouldn't just focus on figuring out his cell. He would also offer information on other cells. He didn't offer any information on other cells until AFTER I said something about it.

If you want me to rank them from scummiest to least, I will.

1.BH
2.Ritoky
3. BS

The 2 quote + her listpost don't match up at all. at all.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 30 2014 10:13 GMT
#1066
On August 30 2014 11:09 batsnacks wrote:
I'm going to do a ritoky, only mine is right the first time:

Here is where I'm at:
[image loading]

Here is why I am at where I'm at:

BH: He -actually- posted an entire photo album of him moving.

27bunny: This isn't her scum meta.

Damdred: He's the man. Damdred is never mafia.

Not really holyflare: scum didn't make that mayor campaign.

your mom: First, smurf. Second, has voted BlazingHand two days in a row for reasons I am not sold on.

MysteryMeat1: Said he wanted RNG cell order d1 but didn't vote me when I have been the biggest advocate of RNG cell order all game.

WaveofShadow: He hates me because he knows I'm town, having fun, and not trying hard. Whereas he is mafia, not having much fun, and trying hard.

MysteryMeat1: Said he wanted RNG cell order d1 but didn't vote me when I have been the biggest advocate of RNG cell order all game.

marv: Gut says scum, logic says he's not.

Oatsmaster: FACT: Only scum are scumreading me this game.


this is basically a listpost and i hate listposts

##Vote: batsnacks
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 30 2014 10:22 GMT
#1067
Reasons: tbh i don't need to give reasons because i am the general of the glorious leader, but i want to show how much freedom was in this post.

1) every 'reason' for the colouration are non-reasons. Literally none of them mean anything.
[Quote]MysteryMeat1: Said he wanted RNG cell order d1 but didn't vote me when I have been the biggest advocate of RNG cell order all game.
Scumreads mm1 for not voting him for mayor LOL

[Quote] Oatsmaster: FACT: Only scum are scumreading me this game.[/quote]

Not if you post these kind of crap and expect to get out free.

overall, based on the guidance of our glorious leader, i hereby execute batsnacks in the name of communism.
[/b]
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 30 2014 10:23 GMT
#1068
FIXED.


Reasons: tbh i don't need to give reasons because i am the general of the glorious leader, but i want to show how much freedom was in this post.

Every 'reason' for the colouration are non-reasons. Literally none of them mean anything.
MysteryMeat1: Said he wanted RNG cell order d1 but didn't vote me when I have been the biggest advocate of RNG cell order all game.

Scumreads mm1 for not voting him for mayor LOL

Oatsmaster: FACT: Only scum are scumreading me this game.


Not if you post these kind of crap and expect to get out free.

overall, based on the guidance of our glorious leader, i hereby execute batsnacks in the name of communism.

Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 30 2014 14:29 GMT
#1082
On August 30 2014 23:24 Amiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 19:13 Not really holyflare wrote:
##Vote: batsnacks

FYI this is not in the vote post


thanks amiko
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 30 2014 16:53 GMT
#1129
so, before its my cell's turn, anyone want to guess who I am? (amiko not allowed to guess)
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 30 2014 16:55 GMT
#1131
On August 31 2014 01:51 Amiko wrote:
@marv
What do you think of the content batsnacks actually posted?
Have you considered it or are you just set on voting Blazinghand because of his non-activity?

If you can convince me batsnacks' last few posts are better than I thought I'm open to moving to Blazinghand.


Also, if someone can convince me that bat's listpost is far from scummy, I might be willing to switch to BH.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 30 2014 16:55 GMT
#1132
On August 31 2014 01:54 batsnacks wrote:
What the heck happened while I was asleep?


we shazamed your listpost and it came back with a result of 'scummy - batsnacks'
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 30 2014 17:00 GMT
#1137
On August 31 2014 01:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 01:51 Amiko wrote:
@marv
What do you think of the content batsnacks actually posted?
Have you considered it or are you just set on voting Blazinghand because of his non-activity?

If you can convince me batsnacks' last few posts are better than I thought I'm open to moving to Blazinghand.

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 01:55 Not really holyflare wrote:
On August 31 2014 01:51 Amiko wrote:
@marv
What do you think of the content batsnacks actually posted?
Have you considered it or are you just set on voting Blazinghand because of his non-activity?

If you can convince me batsnacks' last few posts are better than I thought I'm open to moving to Blazinghand.


Also, if someone can convince me that bat's listpost is far from scummy, I might be willing to switch to BH.

Ugh I hate when people do this. It looks really scummy, like you're hoping that somebody makes an excuse for you to vote a towny (not that BH is necessarily).

[


no, I want them to pit the scumminess of both these players together, show me who is more scummy and tell me what I missed that could have made me decide one over the other
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 30 2014 17:08 GMT
#1143
On August 31 2014 02:05 batsnacks wrote:
Isn't it amazing how if I spew crazy nonsense everyone thinks I'm town but if I actually give out reads all of that goes away in an instant.

Part of me wants to just let everyone vote me because you all deserve it, part of me wants to revert back to crazy talk, and very little of me actually wants to try. I guess Ill take some time to decide what I want to do.


lel but I classify your 'read' as crazy shit
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 30 2014 17:30 GMT
#1161
On August 31 2014 02:27 Professor Apathy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
And then there's BH.

lol would it be against the rules to film myself flipping a coin?

I once did pictures of me flipping a total of 25 coins in a 3 way tie to decide who to shoot as a vig. I think I only posted that postgame though.

And when I say picture of me flipping 25 coins I'm mean you saw the coin on my table, a pen and a drawn tally.


I'm disappointed you didn't hold a newspaper walking around your room while doing the coinflips tho.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 30 2014 17:45 GMT
#1176
On August 31 2014 02:44 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 02:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 31 2014 02:37 marvellosity wrote:
I hope you guys realise if you lynch batsnacks and he flips town, I am going to be completely unbearable.

And this is different from normal how
doh ho ho ho ho

think how unbearable I will be if i am actually making a point about being unbearable then!


hey marv
don't pull any last minute shit again
so bat or bh? Like literally if you have gun with 1 bullet and you can shoot anyone (other than me of course), who will you shoot?
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 30 2014 17:48 GMT
#1180
On August 31 2014 02:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 02:45 Not really holyflare wrote:
On August 31 2014 02:44 marvellosity wrote:
On August 31 2014 02:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 31 2014 02:37 marvellosity wrote:
I hope you guys realise if you lynch batsnacks and he flips town, I am going to be completely unbearable.

And this is different from normal how
doh ho ho ho ho

think how unbearable I will be if i am actually making a point about being unbearable then!


hey marv
don't pull any last minute shit again
so bat or bh? Like literally if you have gun with 1 bullet and you can shoot anyone (other than me of course), who will you shoot?

are you serious??


yes.
I'm waiting for the 'NO YOU GUYS ARE FISH FOR THINKING BAT IS SCUM VOTE BH NOW' part, with 30 minutes left.
I might have exaggerated that part a slight bit.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 31 2014 04:36 GMT
#1311
This lilwade is consistent with the cop lilwade in the newbie. I'm going with nb scum here.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 31 2014 12:21 GMT
#1314
On August 31 2014 21:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
americans too lazy on weekends.

Hey smurf holyfake, how is this lilwade the same as the other ones?


The supreme leader whispered into my ear, 'kill him'.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 31 2014 12:29 GMT
#1320
On August 31 2014 04:59 lilwade wrote:
##vote: Blazinghand aka blazingwang

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 03:02 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm here and have some time to talk. Look, I've taken a look at how batsnacks has played, and it seems fairly clear to me that he's scum. The fact of the matter is, his play and attempt at analysis only takes place directly in response to the possibility of people moving off of me. My low activity is pretty much flat because, yes, I'm moving. Batsnacks just wants to fly under the radar and once he realizes people might question him he starts flipping shit and making graphics and stuff. His goal isn't to hunt scum, it's to just not be the lynch in this cell-- it is clear to me that he is operating from a scum mindset and goal set.

Other players have mentioned the inconsistencies and scumminess of his list/excel post and his followup, so I won't rehash that.

Honestly, I'm completely sure batsnacks is scum, and I will do what it takes to prove that. We're not lynching me today. Not while I have a say in it.

On August 31 2014 02:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry for spam:

Just had a breakthrough

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/465889-how-to-succeed-in-evil

BH totally scum


this blog post was in the queue for 2 weeks. It was already written so I just copied it over from my reddit posts proof: http://www.reddit.com/r/rational/comments/2dn4gq/rt_how_to_succeed_in_evil_series_edwin_windsor/cjtfl4c

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 03:09 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 31 2014 03:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Uhh....
BH how exactly has batsnacks been attempting to fly under the radar?


well, not NOW, obviously, but look at it this way. At the start of the day, like a million people vote me, including batsnacks, and he doesn't try to ask me questions, pressure me, or even mention ritoky. The first time he does this is about 24 hours ago (link). He makes a lot of posts, conversationally, and he's not afraid to step on toes, but they're all like this (link) or like this (link). I would consider batsnacks' early contributions during this day to be basically the same as mine: nonexistent. He certainly makes a lot of posts, but none with real meaning.

Then, only after he comes under some pressure, he coughts up this hairball: (link) while at the same time trying to downplay his earlier play and focus you guys on his most recent play, so you think he's active.

I don't agree that he is flying under the radar. But, my perspective is different from those who have played with him.
I found most of his posts are bold and funny, but he has been doing them while having the majority vote on him. I think mafia tactics would be to buckle down and get to business. I think there is a small chance bat is mafia.

Then

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 03:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Wait, now you're voting bats? I'm even more confused, though I am pleased. Nonetheless, I will follow your advice and provide reads on the other cells, since you'll be needing my guidance in the next few days regardless

This post is awful. It is like a sheep and a putdown in the same post. Of course you are pleased. you did provide a single read on 27bunnies who I think is mafia, this troubles me but I think I have a better read on ritoky and bat than you.


From his wall on bh:

On July 31 2014 09:09 lilwade wrote:
Ok, I am going to devote this whole post to the player seeyalater
The main consensus of your actions has been marginally based on teemu. You keep saying how teemu's post are empty and how your posts are fill with so much more sustenance. see here
1)
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 04:28 Seeyalater wrote:
Hey y'all I'm awake and town! So that's good.

Still heavily sick with the flu though.

Also so far reading into the game I don't trust Teemu....

This was your first real post nothing to ride home about you feel like teemu is not trustworthy at the current time.
2)
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 04:37 Seeyalater wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:32 JennyHell wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:28 Seeyalater wrote:
Hey y'all I'm awake and town! So that's good.

Still heavily sick with the flu though.

Also so far reading into the game I don't trust Teemu....


What makes you not trust a tea drinking walrus? Take me on a ride through your thoughts.

I don't know, he just seems a little TOO eager, you know what I mean? Like going off so hard to get people to like him(including cute pictures as well!) makes me not trust him too much. Not calling him mafia or anything, just my top scum from what has been happening here so far!

Are you his partner Jenny? :o


You main concern here was that teemu is coming off as too audacious. So you I don't really agree with your trust issues at this point, the guy is trying to gauge people and it seems you did not really like that he was pushing people on day 1?
3)
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 05:02 Seeyalater wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:37 Seeyalater wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:32 JennyHell wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:28 Seeyalater wrote:
Hey y'all I'm awake and town! So that's good.

Still heavily sick with the flu though.

Also so far reading into the game I don't trust Teemu....


What makes you not trust a tea drinking walrus? Take me on a ride through your thoughts.

I don't know, he just seems a little TOO eager, you know what I mean? Like going off so hard to get people to like him(including cute pictures as well!) makes me not trust him too much. Not calling him mafia or anything, just my top scum from what has been happening here so far!

Are you his partner Jenny? :o


Lol wait. How can you not be calling him mafia or anything if you're saying he is your top scum read?

He was my top scum, but that was my 1st initial read, its not enough to say that he's mafia yet. Just that I don't really trust what he said. Maybe your definition of scum is different to my definition, but just because I call him scum doesn't mean I actually think he's mafia yet.

I get that you think he is the scummiest person so far, and I understand what you mean by scum not meaning mafia.
but here is where it gets a little weird for me.
4)
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 10:02 Seeyalater wrote:
So my updated are-


1. GlowingBear- Leaning town so far for me, has been making decent points throughout the thread, however as others have said they seem to lack clear thoughts on what he himself is thinking. Townie enough in my book.

2. Teemursu- Very empty posts, not much substance to them, seems somewhat disinterested in the game, even though he has been posting a lot. Heavily mafia leaning.
3. DCLXVI
4. meatpudding-Afk policy lynch

5. JennyHell- Strong posts with a lot of substance to them. Any time someone asks a question to her she responds in well thought out posts, and also gives her insight a lot when others give their thoughts about the game. Top town.

6. lilwade- Much like Teemu, a good amount of points but not a lot of substance to most of them, if any at all. Another Mafia leaning player.

7. Tehpoofter- Lots of posts, good input, "friendly" demeanor, gives off a huge townie vibe. Almost too huge. Townie for today, might reevaluate further as game goes on so I don't find myself comfortably in his pocket. Although I'm probably just being extremely paranoid.

8. Lord Tolkien- In his first real post, he had more input and reasoning thrown in then all of Teemu's and lilwade's posts combined. I also liked his first post, even if it was odd. Hopefully he stays active and brings more input into the game before today ends.

9. Seeyalater- A fine townie chap who has been very active since waking up today. Doesn't have a way with words but he posts his thoughts often!

and
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 15:07 Seeyalater wrote:
This will be my last post for the next 10 hours or so since I'm off to bed, so I'll try to make it a meaningful one.

I'm sorry ahead of time that my formatting WILL suck.
On July 30 2014 13:02 GlowingBear wrote:
.:Short Case - Interaction Between JennyHell and Seeyalater

This post from Seeyalater caugt my attention:



Bolded part is weird. He says that he is not calling Teemu mafia but that he is his top scum. Which means that Teemu is probably mafia by his point of view? I know that maybe Seeyalater is trying to say that Teemu is leaning mafia, but this also means he is considering him as mafia. From the way I think, this is Seeyalater trying not to be compromised by his reads, not drawing undesired attention. It's him trying to give a read but not giving a read at all. If you're calling someone scum, you're calling someone mafia. Period. If you say that he is your top scum but that you're not calling him mafia, you're saying nothing about someone. Just looks like a mafia attempt to show contribution.
And it's in this post that he starts his interaction with Jenny. It doesn't say much with just it alone, but you can view from this angle: if both are scum, by asking this, he is distancing from Jenny, trying to put both on two opposite poles where if one is mafia, another cannot be.

As I've said many times before, it was still super early in the game and did not want to call anyone mafia YET preemtively, however as the day progressed and others chimed in with their reads, thats when I did start to call him mafia, as you should have seen in my recent list of reads.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 30 2014 04:47 JennyHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 04:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 30 2014 03:54 Teemursu wrote:
On July 30 2014 02:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 30 2014 02:46 Teemursu wrote:
On July 30 2014 02:41 GlowingBear wrote:
No, really, let's try to actually start the game.
Jenny, from your experience on daily mafia, what's the difference between scum!jenny and town!jenny?

This is a weird question to start the "actual" game with. What information are you expecting to get out of this question, specifically information that will help you figure out her alignment?

Scum!jenny would lie about how she plays either alignment, so to get any helpful information, you have to know she is town.

Kinda scummy.


If we keep kidding all day long it will lead to a mislynch. I'd rather ask questions like this so we can gather some information. You may consider it true or false. If you consider it false, you may analyse how consciously she is trying to keep the appearances she brought on her answer.

If I actually knew she was town, there would be no need to ask such question, Teemu

I like that you try to generate some discussion, but I think the question you asked is weird. What do you now think of her answer that she did give one? Too consciously trying to keep the appearance?


Nope, she actually said nothing on her post. It shows she is cautious to tell us about her play style, but it looks like mor of a town paranoia than scum hiding.
It's fine that you find that weird, but what would be a scum motive behind that question. Think about it.


Do you expect people that are new to mafia in general to be able to say exactly how their play differentiate depending on what role they are when they haven't actually played enough to know themselves yet?

Like, if you were to ask seeyalater the same question that you asked me, you'd probably get an even more empty answer, because he hasn't played any yet.

It's not only what is said that is important, more so the way it is said. Or is that just me?

In this post by Jenny, you can see that she uses Seeyalater as example, in a way that, by defending her, she is also defending him against my accusation of saying nothing at all. Remember: this post alone is a weak reasoning. You have to consider all the interactions I'm going to post to get to the conclusion that they have a strong interaction.

How can you say she defended me from your accusation when you never accused me of anything prior to then? Did you just forget what you said earlier? If anything she defended HERSELF against your accusation by bringing up another new player(me) as an example which I found extremely odd, which leads to...

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 30 2014 04:55 Seeyalater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 04:47 JennyHell wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 30 2014 03:54 Teemursu wrote:
On July 30 2014 02:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 30 2014 02:46 Teemursu wrote:
On July 30 2014 02:41 GlowingBear wrote:
No, really, let's try to actually start the game.
Jenny, from your experience on daily mafia, what's the difference between scum!jenny and town!jenny?

This is a weird question to start the "actual" game with. What information are you expecting to get out of this question, specifically information that will help you figure out her alignment?

Scum!jenny would lie about how she plays either alignment, so to get any helpful information, you have to know she is town.

Kinda scummy.


If we keep kidding all day long it will lead to a mislynch. I'd rather ask questions like this so we can gather some information. You may consider it true or false. If you consider it false, you may analyse how consciously she is trying to keep the appearances she brought on her answer.

If I actually knew she was town, there would be no need to ask such question, Teemu

I like that you try to generate some discussion, but I think the question you asked is weird. What do you now think of her answer that she did give one? Too consciously trying to keep the appearance?


Nope, she actually said nothing on her post. It shows she is cautious to tell us about her play style, but it looks like mor of a town paranoia than scum hiding.
It's fine that you find that weird, but what would be a scum motive behind that question. Think about it.


Do you expect people that are new to mafia in general to be able to say exactly how their play differentiate depending on what role they are when they haven't actually played enough to know themselves yet?

Like, if you were to ask seeyalater the same question that you asked me, you'd probably get an even more empty answer, because he hasn't played any yet.

It's not only what is said that is important, more so the way it is said. Or is that just me?

Hey don't try to throw scum at me sister! To answer said question, I'm pretty sure no matter the alignment I'd play similarly day 1 to try to figure out who the scummiest people are. Now what I'd do with said info is different though, because as you've noticed I've yet to actually call anyone mafia, just trying to notice who seems the scummiest so far.

Not sure if this is you being Mafia trying to throw off scum Jenny, or just a really defensive townie.

This is a response from Seeyalater to Jenny. Notice how weird and overreacted that post came. Looks like an unnatural way of distancing, again.

Now, after this distancing, look how easily he town reads Jenny:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 30 2014 05:07 Seeyalater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 04:56 Teemursu wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:37 Seeyalater wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:32 JennyHell wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:28 Seeyalater wrote:
Hey y'all I'm awake and town! So that's good.

Still heavily sick with the flu though.

Also so far reading into the game I don't trust Teemu....


What makes you not trust a tea drinking walrus? Take me on a ride through your thoughts.

I don't know, he just seems a little TOO eager, you know what I mean? Like going off so hard to get people to like him(including cute pictures as well!) makes me not trust him too much. Not calling him mafia or anything, just my top scum from what has been happening here so far!

Are you his partner Jenny? :o

I really really like that you're giving reads, but I dislike the bolded.

I was trying to get a reaction from Jenny, who I've been on the fence about, but her recent reply above me seemed somewhat genuine, so I'd say she's my top town at the moment.

Do you know which post made him get this read?:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 30 2014 04:59 JennyHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 04:55 Seeyalater wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:47 JennyHell wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 30 2014 03:54 Teemursu wrote:
On July 30 2014 02:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 30 2014 02:46 Teemursu wrote:
On July 30 2014 02:41 GlowingBear wrote:
No, really, let's try to actually start the game.
Jenny, from your experience on daily mafia, what's the difference between scum!jenny and town!jenny?

This is a weird question to start the "actual" game with. What information are you expecting to get out of this question, specifically information that will help you figure out her alignment?

Scum!jenny would lie about how she plays either alignment, so to get any helpful information, you have to know she is town.

Kinda scummy.


If we keep kidding all day long it will lead to a mislynch. I'd rather ask questions like this so we can gather some information. You may consider it true or false. If you consider it false, you may analyse how consciously she is trying to keep the appearances she brought on her answer.

If I actually knew she was town, there would be no need to ask such question, Teemu

I like that you try to generate some discussion, but I think the question you asked is weird. What do you now think of her answer that she did give one? Too consciously trying to keep the appearance?


Nope, she actually said nothing on her post. It shows she is cautious to tell us about her play style, but it looks like mor of a town paranoia than scum hiding.
It's fine that you find that weird, but what would be a scum motive behind that question. Think about it.


Do you expect people that are new to mafia in general to be able to say exactly how their play differentiate depending on what role they are when they haven't actually played enough to know themselves yet?

Like, if you were to ask seeyalater the same question that you asked me, you'd probably get an even more empty answer, because he hasn't played any yet.

It's not only what is said that is important, more so the way it is said. Or is that just me?

Hey don't try to throw scum at me sister! To answer said question, I'm pretty sure no matter the alignment I'd play similarly day 1 to try to figure out who the scummiest people are. Now what I'd do with said info is different though, because as you've noticed I've yet to actually call anyone mafia, just trying to notice who seems the scummiest so far.

Not sure if this is you being Mafia trying to throw off scum Jenny, or just a really defensive townie.


Sorry if it looked like I was trying to make you seem scummy. I was merely pointing out a flaw that I saw in the question he asked me. It really had nothing to do with you, just brought you in as a way to explain the way I viewed it.

What, WHAT in this post is so townie that completely changes you perception regarding someone?
Do you get how odd this is?

She explained herself in detail both in this post, and another post right above mine- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=11#205

She both reacted to my post in a matter that seemed non scummy to me, AND also tried to understand what I was trying to get town to see. Its day 1, reads can change pretty easily on that day if someone says something favorably.



Now, THIS IS THE MAIN POINT. Finding the odd contradictions from the first post I quoted from Seeyalater, I decided to push him on it (you can look my post on the nested quote). I've got a response. From him? NOPE, from Jenny!
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 30 2014 05:01 JennyHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 04:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:37 Seeyalater wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:32 JennyHell wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:28 Seeyalater wrote:
Hey y'all I'm awake and town! So that's good.

Still heavily sick with the flu though.

Also so far reading into the game I don't trust Teemu....


What makes you not trust a tea drinking walrus? Take me on a ride through your thoughts.

I don't know, he just seems a little TOO eager, you know what I mean? Like going off so hard to get people to like him(including cute pictures as well!) makes me not trust him too much. Not calling him mafia or anything, just my top scum from what has been happening here so far!

Are you his partner Jenny? :o


Lol wait. How can you not be calling him mafia or anything if you're saying he is your top scum read?


My guess, he starts off reading everyone as town, trying to figure out who is scummy enough to be mafia.
So he's saying they're leaning mafia, or the things they said are questionable for a town.

Personally I start reading everyone as mafia, and see who proves to me they are towny and can be trusted enough to be in the town circle with me.

But that's just my guess. I could be wrong.

Why didn't she let him answer my question? More than that, why is she somehow defending him instead of helping me pushing him? His post was odd, we needed to get more information from him. She decides to explain his attitude instead of trying to discover if he got mafia motives! This, for me, is a signal of a possible scum trying to defend his partner. He didn't even got the chance to explain himself BEFORE she posts this.

I did answer your question, right below hers, and at most 1 minute apart from each other, so its not like I let her talk for me for a long time before I decided to chime in.


This concludes my short case. I still prefer to Vote for meatpudding because we definitely need him talking. But if meatpudding comes ok to the thread and nothing more suspicious happens, I'm voting for one of these two.



In short, to me this case study either proves to me that you are not paying much attention to both what others and YOU have said, but now it feels like you are just trying to lead town in a bad direction with your misinformation.

Now as for you Teemu http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=17#334,

I'll agree with you on some things, like about some of my opinions being shared by others before me, but in that case, is it really that odd to agree with the majority on certain actions? I like to sound off on every post as much as possible, and what I think of content of said post, and hey guess what, that will usually align with what others are saying if its fairly obvious stuff.

Also how is making an early list of reads odd, specially in a forum game, just to show everyone where I am at at the moment? I wasn't even the first person to do so, how come you only came at me about that. Its a great way as town to communicate to each other where we stand with each other. In fact, you're the only one who has brought this up as scummy in your book. And who said anything about them being good reads? They were my early game-what has happened so far- reads, no where did I imply they were good reads at all.

Also your point about last game seems odd to me, mostly because I wasn't in on it, but why bring it up at that moment? Nothing major just a small thing that seemed weird to me. As for the how odd... You'll notice I say a lot of things are odd, just because other people use said word. Is that something I need to change in order to come off as less scummy? Probably, but that's just how it is.

To me teemu, now it just seems now that people have started to give you flak and see past your friendly demeanor, you've just thrown scum at others who have called you mafia.

I have not seen you, since you woke up a while back, even talk about other people in the game, such as Lord Tolkien or Jenny.

Speaking of those 2, I know right now its night time for her, and hopefully Tolkien chimes in while I'm ResidentSleeper, I'd like to hear from them in the next coming hours about where they are in the game, since right now they are my top 2 town(again this can change at a moments whim, but for now it stays that way).

As for the other people, I still think Poofter is town enough for today, some decent meat to his posts, Roman numerals I'm also ok with for now(though less than Poofter) because he seems to also want to push others to elaborate on their current standings.

Meatpudding still afk so nothing changes on that.

Lilwade has also really not contributed at all in a long time, so I'll be fine with lynching him as well if he doesn't become more active tomorrow, however of the people actually posting my top 2 scum are-

GB for that long post "case" study- normally I'd be fine with posts being analized in depth even if they are on me so I can see his insight into things, but many things about his study were really off, such as him saying Jenny defended me from an accusation he never accused me of in the first place, when she was only trying to defend herself from the accusation he made at her, never at me. Also in another post about her "defending" me, my reply to his accusation was directly posted below hers, less than 1 minute apart. It just seems like he is trying to throw scum to move town in a bad way with all that misinformation, and he's been throwing scum not just on me, but on my top town, and someone who is also very townie for others, trying to create chaos.

And my top scum so far Teemu- I've also explained this in detail before in this post, but I still don't see too much info to his posts other than just trying to make others look scummier than him. I still don't even know where he stands on most of the town, specially the people I see as town. Now my initial read on him as scum was a really early initial read, but it has slowly evolved into something more substantial. In your last few posts, nothing you have said has really come off to me as townie. Now your old friendly demeanor has evolved into a more nasty, two sided demeanor, where you're all Tee-hee! in your posts, but they seem coated in venom.


As for who I'd vote, I'm still holding to my policy lynch for meatpudding and possibly Lilwade, but if those 2 become more active, and unless they seem genuinely town, my top 2 lynch are 1st- Teemu, followed by GB.

Now you made a list and said that teemu's post were very empty and he seemed disinterested, and for me all of your posts about him up to that point were about teemu's appeal coming off strong and over the top. A bit flip floppy there.

Then, you have your next post, albeit, a long one you only had a small amount of input in it. You talk about how teemu gives you flak for making an early game list, I personally do not like them but I dont make it a point to throw that on the table. Why do you dislike that he called you out on it. You said you got a small scum feeling for him posting about another game, go into more detail about it or do not mention it please. finally the last bit of info about him in that post is that you said people are seeing through his friendly demeanor and has reacted by tell people who disagree with him scum. I get a town vibe on that because he stands by his points and agrees on others. If I do say you are both playing pretty much the same here.
Even though you may pull up quotes and type longer your posts do not go into as much detail as you think.


From his wall in newbie mafia


Lilwade have been a low volume poster, but comes in heavy. I would expect him to play differently as scum. So im giving him a townpass for now.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 31 2014 12:38 GMT
#1323
On August 31 2014 21:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
but is this style or alignment though.
How do you draw that link.
Maybe he is trying to replicate that play.

I thought you were talking about the attitude tbh, in your opinion, is it?


Style is quite a good indicator of alignment. My style as town and scum quite differs (if you know who i am).
Theres no need to replicate the play here because there literally 0 people from the previous games. If he really did replicate it just in fear of people checking him, then he have thought too much

Attitude wise, i cannot use it to compare. Since in a newbie game, people have a more positive attitude, while in normal games people go srsbsns.

But then again, marv thinks toad is town (i may be wrong on this), so we should be checking into nb /lilwade. Nb have a weird style of trying to be different every game, so i would rather trust what i see than to slowly deduce what nb is up to.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 31 2014 12:40 GMT
#1324
EBWOP: From a meta town of view, i will give a townpass to lilwade than nb, anytime
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 31 2014 12:47 GMT
#1326
On August 31 2014 21:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So you dont think Toad is town?

elaborate


Where did i mention that toad isn't town?
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
September 01 2014 21:27 GMT
#1583
I just woke up and you all are on lilwade?
Hmm...
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
September 01 2014 21:32 GMT
#1585
Unless he is your mum (no pun intended), then no
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
September 01 2014 22:10 GMT
#1606
Alright, I'm not going to switch my vote. Ever.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
September 02 2014 23:08 GMT
#1644
On September 03 2014 00:08 Amiko wrote:
There's a fair chance we lose today so if all three of the people in the Cell up for lynch can be active that'd be a nice change of pace for the game. I'd like at least one day where everyone is playing ._.


@NRHF:
I get a town read on you for the most part, but here's some things I'd like to ask-

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 29 2014 10:36 Not really holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 10:30 Amiko wrote:
Oh sidethought I wanted to ask
@Anyone else who said Cell C was an easy cell to read - this was at least NotReallyHolyflare and I think also Apathy
Why do you feel this is the case?
I have never been scum on forum mafia, so I don't see why it would be easy to read me as town/scum. Even if marv is easy to read, do you feel that confident about reading Oats? Give some basis on this


Yes. Oats is like 99.9999% scum now because I think you're town.

Because I trust that you may be 99.9999% town, ill sheep you for catching a mistake that bh shouldn't have done.

Bat posted. Not scum.
Ritoky MIGHT be scum because his town was analytical. This is bullshit ritoky.

Anyway, scratch that. Ritoky is scum.

##Vote: ritoky

For this post, there's a couple weird things I'd like you to explain.

1) You indicate that you will sheep me, but then vote for ritoky. wassup with that.

2) You scumread oats on the grounds that you read me as town. This implies that you also townread marv. I don't really see you townreading marv from any of your other posts, though - most suggest that you are counting on WaveofShadow or Holyflare to read Marv. So, did you townread marv at that time? When and why?


1)I decided to trust my instinct for once over sheeping.

2) i thought that it would be better to townread marv early on, since most people will point out of marv is scum quite early.

Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
September 02 2014 23:12 GMT
#1645
On September 03 2014 04:55 Amiko wrote:
Maybe he revealed who he was in your qt? ^^

I don't feel like knowing who he is has strongly affected my sense of him this game, though, and it's not like anyone has pushed on him or asked me for my read of him. Afaik he has no scum games on TL anyway.

As with too many things, I can't really call it scummy that no one is inquisitive because clearly neither town nor mafia cares.


Aha amiko wrong smurf

I am the more cruel one .-. The more cruel lover.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
September 02 2014 23:13 GMT
#1646
On September 03 2014 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
no i dont know but he revealed clues in the thread and you know who he is and so did toad but your mum hasn't done any of that


So who am i, hf
My cell will pass soon anyway, no harm revealing who this communist fake hf is
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
September 02 2014 23:31 GMT
#1649
On September 03 2014 08:29 Amiko wrote:
@Meat
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 07:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
are you actually a dumbass HF? If all people from the cell vote for bunnies, or course one mafia is voting on their partner. The fact is bunnies was probably mafia, as no one voted for apathy. Either we just got rolled or bunnies was mafia. Same thing with ritoky. You also did the same thing iirc, you voted on your partner and then used some dumb excuse to switch your vote to a town


His point is that your statement assumes that bunnies is mafia;
If Apathy was mafia, then mafia did not vote for their partner.

Compare your phrasing - "Im just wary that we know at least one mafia is voting on their partner."
to my phrasing "...obviously at least one mafia is voting or trying to vote for bunnies. This doesn't give any indication that it's voting town or mafia..."

Idc though if we aren't going to have any activity then hopefully game will end today.

@NRHF:
Oh yeah then I was mistaken. I thought you were imaginary, but you are not (you are minus notflare). For some reason I thought he was a lover but come to think of it I guess he is not. That makes sense, though, I hadn't played with him for a while but he tended to do more frequent and shorter reads.
I am pretty sure I have it now, though the scum play I saw from you is hard feels difficult to apply to another game, lol. I'll take a look though >:3


you thought i was shiny didn't ya
I admit both of us play quite similarly lol
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
September 02 2014 23:32 GMT
#1650
On September 03 2014 08:29 Amiko wrote:
@NRHF I didn't realize you were so devoted to the glorious leader, lol.


You get to have tons of fun as a smurf lul
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
September 03 2014 01:44 GMT
#1669
On September 03 2014 10:14 Holyflare wrote:
is nrhf haru?


[image loading]
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
September 03 2014 21:41 GMT
#1711
Right, here are my 3 scum predictions for D B C
D - u momma
B - MM1
C - oats/marv

I still cannot settle on the fact if marv is town or not. This is extremely worrying. Judge by yourselves on d4.
If marv is town, no doubt oats is the scum here.
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 15m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech91
CosmosSc2 45
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 703
Leta 173
sSak 97
Tasteless 66
Bale 42
Noble 17
Icarus 6
ToSsGirL 2
League of Legends
JimRising 881
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K757
semphis_40
Other Games
summit1g5846
shahzam1148
WinterStarcraft516
C9.Mang0359
NeuroSwarm40
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick427
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1142
• Lourlo913
• Stunt404
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
4h 15m
BeSt vs Alone
Queen vs Bisu
Kung Fu Cup
6h 15m
TaeJa vs Classic
Creator vs SHIN
Rogue vs MaxPax
PiGosaur Monday
18h 15m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 6h
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
OSC
1d 10h
OSC
1d 18h
RSL Revival
2 days
Cure vs SHIN
Reynor vs Zoun
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Maru
[ Show More ]
Online Event
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Clem vs herO
Serral vs Bunny
Reynor vs Zoun
Cosmonarchy
4 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21: BSL Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.