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On September 02 2014 02:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:Now to PA His filter is a bit longer. 6 pages to be exact. I commend you for your activity. Some things I have a problem with, why did he want our group to go last? He makes jokes about it, says it's because he creates a shitstorm and needs more time to defend himself (you can find that post here- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=15#286) but it actually seemed like he's been doing completely opposite this game. Townie points? I also want to know if the below is where he stands still On August 29 2014 07:50 Professor Apathy wrote:On August 29 2014 07:47 marvellosity wrote:
BH/HF/your mum/Amiko/lilwade best guess so far.
just so people can quiz me in a really annoying fashion later if/when i change my mind. I kind of agree A) BH B) Holy C) idk D) probably your mum but that's a gut read E) ninjabunnies As of now, reading through PA's filter, he seems the most town. He's active, questioning, and looking to try and figure out the game. The only thing that throws me off is how active he was about being mayor, and wanting our group to go last. Idc that he wanted us to go last, but his reasoning that "he would need more time to defend himself" is super scummy. I'm not going to vote yet, because I do want to hear responses to these thoughts
why? given what you've said, your vote should be on lilwade.
the reasoning wasn't "I need more time to defend myself". The reason was "I tend to ragequit when I'm annoyed and can get away with it. If I'm in last Cell I can't get away with it".
group A: I still think BH was mafia (now that I know bats wasn't)
group B: I don't think Holy is mafia. Not as certain on his towniness as on WoS but I would have pushed Holy had I thought he's mafia to make sure noone listens to him
group C: I'm actually still not sure about for various reasons I don't feel like going into
group D: damdred looks somewhat okay. Yeah I'd probably still go for your mum
group E: I'm obviously voting lilwade right now
@Marv/WoS
On August 28 2014 07:03 Professor Apathy wrote:
Fear not for I am town an will murder all of mafia.
Vote me and I will organize the groups in such a way that hilarity and entertainement will be guaranteed!
##vote Professor Apathy for mighty powers
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Well bunnies you have given your read on your cell, which they actually look pretty good and I wish you would of been here day one like this would of made things easier probably. Could you glance at the next cell and start leaving your thoughts ?
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On September 02 2014 02:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:On September 02 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote:it does? how come babe? because once you get modkilled from a game (and i know he was around and still got modkilled from newbie) you can focus on the other one. He's not posted any reason to afk, he just comes back in to settle the people against him with a vote and back to lurking again. I'd expect if he was town he'd just be like "sorry i was mafia in another game and more interested in winning there" and then post some kind of basic analysis or anything or say he's reading but the maintained lurk while present means he's literally just avoiding posting on purpose i'd also expect if he were mafia to at least pretend to do some analysis
i wouldn't think so if he was mafia twice
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Actually, please go into why you are not sure on group C.
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On September 02 2014 01:49 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Going to work and i probably wont be able to check my phone. Gonna stick to my gut read on bunnies T.T
On September 02 2014 01:50 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Ah screw it lilwade it is
Why the sudden change MM1? And why did you ignore my first questions?
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On September 02 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:because once you get modkilled from a game (and i know he was around and still got modkilled from newbie) you can focus on the other one. He's not posted any reason to afk, he just comes back in to settle the people against him with a vote and back to lurking again. I'd expect if he was town he'd just be like "sorry i was mafia in another game and more interested in winning there" and then post some kind of basic analysis or anything or say he's reading but the maintained lurk while present means he's literally just avoiding posting on purpose
Sometimes I find that there is a massive disconnect with you between what you expect people to do and what actually happens in reality.
I honestly don't really think I can come up with any particular narrative that makes sense to me realistically---half the time when people lurk and/or don't play the game it's for no particular reason at all and based on his earlier posting I feel like this is most likely the case. Non-alignment indicative.
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On September 02 2014 02:16 Damdred wrote:
Well bunnies you have given your read on your cell, which they actually look pretty good and I wish you would of been here day one like this would of made things easier probably. Could you glance at the next cell and start leaving your thoughts ?
Sure, I'll actually do that for the rest of the cells.
A- I think this cell was BH
E- Lilwade- he's not participating, leaves random comments. Idk. PA has a better tr and I'm town, so POE.
D- For this cell, IDK tbh. I don't really remember either YM or NRHF. I remember you though. Your first post was pretty godly.
B- HF questioning of me is super weird. But MM1 has been leaving ridiculous posts too. Late voting, ritoky sheeping, then his "I have a gut read on bunnies but screw it, let's vote off Lilwade" post was super super scummy. Then again, MM gets mislynched quite often, but he would be my number 1, followed by HF.
C- I already said I have a tr on Marv. People think he's been scummy by people I mean HF, but I guess I just have a different read than HF does. I really like Amiko, too. His questioning this game has been fantastic! So I'd go for Oats in this cell.
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On September 02 2014 02:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Actually, please go into why you are not sure on group C.
mostly stupid set-up speculation that I can't not think about despite thinking Marv and HF are about equally likely to be town.
Marv gets the bonus of having wanted BH dead yesterday.
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On September 02 2014 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:On September 02 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote:it does? how come babe? because once you get modkilled from a game (and i know he was around and still got modkilled from newbie) you can focus on the other one. He's not posted any reason to afk, he just comes back in to settle the people against him with a vote and back to lurking again. I'd expect if he was town he'd just be like "sorry i was mafia in another game and more interested in winning there" and then post some kind of basic analysis or anything or say he's reading but the maintained lurk while present means he's literally just avoiding posting on purpose Sometimes I find that there is a massive disconnect with you between what you expect people to do and what actually happens in reality. I honestly don't really think I can come up with any particular narrative that makes sense to me realistically---half the time when people lurk and/or don't play the game it's for no particular reason at all and based on his earlier posting I feel like this is most likely the case. Non-alignment indicative.
i really don't think so...
let's say he's mafia in both games, in one game he puts all his effort into it but he lurks/posts some analysis because hes invested in that one but he clearly hasn't read this one at all so only comes back to appease people with nothingness and a vote to not get modkilled
he is quite literally (and I know this for a fact) present a lot of the time but not posting here at all and didn't post in the newbie despite being here. Who does that? Mafia does that because they want to hide and not do anything.
Now let's say he's town here and invested in one game as mafia but not the town one, why would he be present but still hiding? Why would he not just post anything about being busy or invested in the other game? Why hide everything and just return to stop yourself getting modkilled when your name is called out? He's dead in that game so at least he has no reason to hide here at all?
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On September 02 2014 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:On September 02 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote:it does? how come babe? because once you get modkilled from a game (and i know he was around and still got modkilled from newbie) you can focus on the other one. He's not posted any reason to afk, he just comes back in to settle the people against him with a vote and back to lurking again. I'd expect if he was town he'd just be like "sorry i was mafia in another game and more interested in winning there" and then post some kind of basic analysis or anything or say he's reading but the maintained lurk while present means he's literally just avoiding posting on purpose Sometimes I find that there is a massive disconnect with you between what you expect people to do and what actually happens in reality. I honestly don't really think I can come up with any particular narrative that makes sense to me realistically---half the time when people lurk and/or don't play the game it's for no particular reason at all and based on his earlier posting I feel like this is most likely the case. Non-alignment indicative.
agree. When HF posted the innitial statement I actually thought he meant mafia as in the game of mafia and not the alignment.
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On September 02 2014 02:14 Professor Apathy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:08 marvellosity wrote:On September 02 2014 02:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:Now to PA His filter is a bit longer. 6 pages to be exact. I commend you for your activity. Some things I have a problem with, why did he want our group to go last? He makes jokes about it, says it's because he creates a shitstorm and needs more time to defend himself (you can find that post here- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=15#286) but it actually seemed like he's been doing completely opposite this game. Townie points? I also want to know if the below is where he stands still On August 29 2014 07:50 Professor Apathy wrote:On August 29 2014 07:47 marvellosity wrote:
BH/HF/your mum/Amiko/lilwade best guess so far.
just so people can quiz me in a really annoying fashion later if/when i change my mind. I kind of agree A) BH B) Holy C) idk D) probably your mum but that's a gut read E) ninjabunnies As of now, reading through PA's filter, he seems the most town. He's active, questioning, and looking to try and figure out the game. The only thing that throws me off is how active he was about being mayor, and wanting our group to go last. Idc that he wanted us to go last, but his reasoning that "he would need more time to defend himself" is super scummy. I'm not going to vote yet, because I do want to hear responses to these thoughts
why? given what you've said, your vote should be on lilwade. the reasoning wasn't "I need more time to defend myself". The reason was "I tend to ragequit when I'm annoyed and can get away with it. If I'm in last Cell I can't get away with it". group A: I still think BH was mafia (now that I know bats wasn't) group B: I don't think Holy is mafia. Not as certain on his towniness as on WoS but I would have pushed Holy had I thought he's mafia to make sure noone listens to him group C: I'm actually still not sure about for various reasons I don't feel like going into group D: damdred looks somewhat okay. Yeah I'd probably still go for your mum group E: I'm obviously voting lilwade right now @Marv/WoS Show nested quote +On August 28 2014 07:03 Professor Apathy wrote:
Fear not for I am town an will murder all of mafia.
Vote me and I will organize the groups in such a way that hilarity and entertainement will be guaranteed!
##vote Professor Apathy for mighty powers
Yeah I have no actual problems with you. It's just ever since HF in Cultured I have larger internal problems with 'well if you're scum and have played like this then gg.'
And bunnies does have a point re: group C but as long as you give us the read/stuff before the day is out that's fine.
People (such as Damdred) seem to be feeling better about bunnies right now because she did some posting yesterday and is doing some now, but I'm feeling a little deja vu---this day has turned out a hell of a lot like D1. The couple things that are slightly different are the fact that bunnies actually made a little effort to try before the final hours of the day thus far, and actually posted some content (albeit terrible content) earlier on in the day whereas BH basically did nothing until the last few hours and was able to skate by (I'm still going to assume he was scum btw because it makes the most sense).
Anyway, does a scum bunnies mostly emulate her (probable) teammate in terms of playstyle/afkness/content and assume she will get away with it in the same manner? Like...they even both make a big deal about the reasons they're afk constantly.
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On September 02 2014 02:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:16 Damdred wrote:
Well bunnies you have given your read on your cell, which they actually look pretty good and I wish you would of been here day one like this would of made things easier probably. Could you glance at the next cell and start leaving your thoughts ? Sure, I'll actually do that for the rest of the cells. A- I think this cell was BH E- Lilwade- he's not participating, leaves random comments. Idk. PA has a better tr and I'm town, so POE. D- For this cell, IDK tbh. I don't really remember either YM or NRHF. I remember you though. Your first post was pretty godly. B- HF questioning of me is super weird. But MM1 has been leaving ridiculous posts too. Late voting, ritoky sheeping, then his "I have a gut read on bunnies but screw it, let's vote off Lilwade" post was super super scummy. Then again, MM gets mislynched quite often, but he would be my number 1, followed by HF.C- I already said I have a tr on Marv. People think he's been scummy by people I mean HF, but I guess I just have a different read than HF does. I really like Amiko, too. His questioning this game has been fantastic! So I'd go for Oats in this cell.
what is this crap? why is it weird? I questioned you and you lied about your vote on BH/ritoky and then you actually agreed with what i pointed out with you in regards to lilwade
weird????
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On September 02 2014 02:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 02 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:On September 02 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote:it does? how come babe? because once you get modkilled from a game (and i know he was around and still got modkilled from newbie) you can focus on the other one. He's not posted any reason to afk, he just comes back in to settle the people against him with a vote and back to lurking again. I'd expect if he was town he'd just be like "sorry i was mafia in another game and more interested in winning there" and then post some kind of basic analysis or anything or say he's reading but the maintained lurk while present means he's literally just avoiding posting on purpose Sometimes I find that there is a massive disconnect with you between what you expect people to do and what actually happens in reality. I honestly don't really think I can come up with any particular narrative that makes sense to me realistically---half the time when people lurk and/or don't play the game it's for no particular reason at all and based on his earlier posting I feel like this is most likely the case. Non-alignment indicative. i really don't think so... let's say he's mafia in both games, in one game he puts all his effort into it but he lurks/posts some analysis because hes invested in that one but he clearly hasn't read this one at all so only comes back to appease people with nothingness and a vote to not get modkilled he is quite literally (and I know this for a fact) present a lot of the time but not posting here at all and didn't post in the newbie despite being here. Who does that? Mafia does that because they want to hide and not do anything. Now let's say he's town here and invested in one game as mafia but not the town one, why would he be present but still hiding? Why would he not just post anything about being busy or invested in the other game? Why hide everything and just return to stop yourself getting modkilled when your name is called out? He's dead in that game so at least he has no reason to hide here at all?
I'm almost certain I've seen one of gumshoe/Onegu do this and not be scum. No proof but whatever.
Your out-of-game methods for scumcatching are ridiculously out of hand lately and not based on reality.
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On September 02 2014 02:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 02 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:On September 02 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote:it does? how come babe? because once you get modkilled from a game (and i know he was around and still got modkilled from newbie) you can focus on the other one. He's not posted any reason to afk, he just comes back in to settle the people against him with a vote and back to lurking again. I'd expect if he was town he'd just be like "sorry i was mafia in another game and more interested in winning there" and then post some kind of basic analysis or anything or say he's reading but the maintained lurk while present means he's literally just avoiding posting on purpose Sometimes I find that there is a massive disconnect with you between what you expect people to do and what actually happens in reality. I honestly don't really think I can come up with any particular narrative that makes sense to me realistically---half the time when people lurk and/or don't play the game it's for no particular reason at all and based on his earlier posting I feel like this is most likely the case. Non-alignment indicative. i really don't think so... let's say he's mafia in both games, in one game he puts all his effort into it but he lurks/posts some analysis because hes invested in that one but he clearly hasn't read this one at all so only comes back to appease people with nothingness and a vote to not get modkilled he is quite literally (and I know this for a fact) present a lot of the time but not posting here at all and didn't post in the newbie despite being here. Who does that? Mafia does that because they want to hide and not do anything. Now let's say he's town here and invested in one game as mafia but not the town one, why would he be present but still hiding? Why would he not just post anything about being busy or invested in the other game? Why hide everything and just return to stop yourself getting modkilled when your name is called out? He's dead in that game so at least he has no reason to hide here at all?
after being modkilled? embarrassment
before being modkilled? no talking about other games, he's a new guy if he's in a newb-game, right?
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On September 02 2014 02:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:16 Damdred wrote:
Well bunnies you have given your read on your cell, which they actually look pretty good and I wish you would of been here day one like this would of made things easier probably. Could you glance at the next cell and start leaving your thoughts ? Sure, I'll actually do that for the rest of the cells. A- I think this cell was BH E- Lilwade- he's not participating, leaves random comments. Idk. PA has a better tr and I'm town, so POE. D- For this cell, IDK tbh. I don't really remember either YM or NRHF. I remember you though. Your first post was pretty godly. B- HF questioning of me is super weird. But MM1 has been leaving ridiculous posts too. Late voting, ritoky sheeping, then his "I have a gut read on bunnies but screw it, let's vote off Lilwade" post was super super scummy. Then again, MM gets mislynched quite often, but he would be my number 1, followed by HF. C- I already said I have a tr on Marv. People think he's been scummy by people I mean HF, but I guess I just have a different read than HF does. I really like Amiko, too. His questioning this game has been fantastic! So I'd go for Oats in this cell.
I was not mentioned in this post at all. That's really fucking weird considering you mention literally everyone else in the game at some point.
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On September 02 2014 02:27 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:24 Holyflare wrote:On September 02 2014 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 02 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:On September 02 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote:it does? how come babe? because once you get modkilled from a game (and i know he was around and still got modkilled from newbie) you can focus on the other one. He's not posted any reason to afk, he just comes back in to settle the people against him with a vote and back to lurking again. I'd expect if he was town he'd just be like "sorry i was mafia in another game and more interested in winning there" and then post some kind of basic analysis or anything or say he's reading but the maintained lurk while present means he's literally just avoiding posting on purpose Sometimes I find that there is a massive disconnect with you between what you expect people to do and what actually happens in reality. I honestly don't really think I can come up with any particular narrative that makes sense to me realistically---half the time when people lurk and/or don't play the game it's for no particular reason at all and based on his earlier posting I feel like this is most likely the case. Non-alignment indicative. i really don't think so... let's say he's mafia in both games, in one game he puts all his effort into it but he lurks/posts some analysis because hes invested in that one but he clearly hasn't read this one at all so only comes back to appease people with nothingness and a vote to not get modkilled he is quite literally (and I know this for a fact) present a lot of the time but not posting here at all and didn't post in the newbie despite being here. Who does that? Mafia does that because they want to hide and not do anything. Now let's say he's town here and invested in one game as mafia but not the town one, why would he be present but still hiding? Why would he not just post anything about being busy or invested in the other game? Why hide everything and just return to stop yourself getting modkilled when your name is called out? He's dead in that game so at least he has no reason to hide here at all? I'm almost certain I've seen one of gumshoe/Onegu do this and not be scum. No proof but whatever. Your out-of-game methods for scumcatching are ridiculously out of hand lately and not based on reality.
gumshoe did it by coming on ts when he was town instead of posting but that's because he got flamed a lot
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On September 02 2014 02:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:On September 02 2014 02:16 Damdred wrote:
Well bunnies you have given your read on your cell, which they actually look pretty good and I wish you would of been here day one like this would of made things easier probably. Could you glance at the next cell and start leaving your thoughts ? Sure, I'll actually do that for the rest of the cells. A- I think this cell was BH E- Lilwade- he's not participating, leaves random comments. Idk. PA has a better tr and I'm town, so POE. D- For this cell, IDK tbh. I don't really remember either YM or NRHF. I remember you though. Your first post was pretty godly. B- HF questioning of me is super weird. But MM1 has been leaving ridiculous posts too. Late voting, ritoky sheeping, then his "I have a gut read on bunnies but screw it, let's vote off Lilwade" post was super super scummy. Then again, MM gets mislynched quite often, but he would be my number 1, followed by HF.C- I already said I have a tr on Marv. People think he's been scummy by people I mean HF, but I guess I just have a different read than HF does. I really like Amiko, too. His questioning this game has been fantastic! So I'd go for Oats in this cell. what is this crap? why is it weird? I questioned you and you lied about your vote on BH/ritoky and then you actually agreed with what i pointed out with you in regards to lilwade weird????
I didnt lie. I have no reason to lie. I explained why I voted on each one. Ritoky joke vote though I did think town ritoky would have done stuff a bit different, and BH because I was salty/sheep marv. Is that wrong? Meh
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Actually, vote back on bunnies.
##vote: 27ninjabunnies
She's afraid of me.
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On September 02 2014 02:29 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:On September 02 2014 02:16 Damdred wrote:
Well bunnies you have given your read on your cell, which they actually look pretty good and I wish you would of been here day one like this would of made things easier probably. Could you glance at the next cell and start leaving your thoughts ? Sure, I'll actually do that for the rest of the cells. A- I think this cell was BH E- Lilwade- he's not participating, leaves random comments. Idk. PA has a better tr and I'm town, so POE. D- For this cell, IDK tbh. I don't really remember either YM or NRHF. I remember you though. Your first post was pretty godly. B- HF questioning of me is super weird. But MM1 has been leaving ridiculous posts too. Late voting, ritoky sheeping, then his "I have a gut read on bunnies but screw it, let's vote off Lilwade" post was super super scummy. Then again, MM gets mislynched quite often, but he would be my number 1, followed by HF. C- I already said I have a tr on Marv. People think he's been scummy by people I mean HF, but I guess I just have a different read than HF does. I really like Amiko, too. His questioning this game has been fantastic! So I'd go for Oats in this cell. I was not mentioned in this post at all. That's really fucking weird considering you mention literally everyone else in the game at some point.
You weren't mentioned cause I mentioned the other two in your cell whom I have better reads on.
You are pretty townie WOS, asking questions, trying to figure out the game. I actually remember you had an argument with someone, did you not?
I figured me leaving you out implied I thought you were town.
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On September 01 2014 07:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 07:04 Holyflare wrote:On September 01 2014 06:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Simba.... Wtf.... I thought what we had was special....
Also, because Marv was playing like Marv plays in his town games. Marv has really good reads in his town games. Therefore, sheepable marv.
I thought we went over this HF? have you seen marv play mafia? when you sheeped him it was like RIGHT at the start of the day and he hadn't really done a single thing then Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 07:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@Simba, it's cause I love you.
@HF- I'm pretty sure it wasn't at the beginning of the day. My vote was on Ritoky most of day 1. It wasn't until day 2 did I switch to BH.
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HF- I put ritoky as second, yes. And BH as first.
I also said I want to be green on ritoky's spreadsheet.
But I still don't get what that has to do anything?
I was trolling. Everyone does it
marv doesn't look towny at start of day, you sheep marv at start of day you say you weren't voting bh day 1 as if it meant like you weren't sheeping him when he didn't look towny but that was in fact a lie
so if it was a joke vote and you really were meaning to vote on BH by sheeping marv then what you said here WAS a lie
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