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On September 03 2014 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
There's no possible way that town mysterymeat scum reads 27ninjabunnies but then when holyflare comes along and starts questioning ninjabunnies he says "oh you're pressuring my scum read a lot you are probably scum in my cell! that's super weird of you!"
I would like to clarify this as well,
at the time i was probably thinking that you were scummier than WOS, and if the person i think could be scum is questioning someone, at that point i would probably get a town feeling from the person being questioned
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On September 04 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
he posted that he was sheeping marv after he scum read him as if it was a useful comment, he's also been very sure of things like "NUUU it's a town tell" and "no bla bla is definitely mafia" while ignoring everyone else
i wouldn't honestly be surprised if wave was mafia with oats though
Also please elaborate on this as well,
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On September 04 2014 07:31 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
who agreed with it?
Wow, reading through the thread, i counted 1 person who actually agreed with that post. That one person was Marv, who just chimed in to say, that he was with you.
Way to lie HF! ^^
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I honestly don't know what to think of oats, i've never read a game that he was mafia in, or played a game with him.
However marv's posting style seems to different to me from the last game that he played in.
As for Oats, i'm still a little unsure. he hasn't posted a whole lot of content,
and what little he has said in the earlier days was him pushing for lynches on people who turned out to be town later on. Look at BS vs BH, he also posted this
On August 29 2014 23:41 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 22:39 marvellosity wrote:
like if ninja or oats or whoever can give me a single reason why BH is town, I'm all ears. He got unreasonably angry when he was up to lynch and looks to not give a shit whether he dies. Scum don't so that, they rationalise, they plead, bargain and all that jazz. Scum bh doesn't such so much Bh gives no shits about you when he is under pressure. Note that this is different not giving a shit from bat. Bat is under no pressure, Bh is under lotta pressure.
The one game that i played with BH when he was cop, and i accidentally got him lynched  , he seemed to care a lot when he was under pressure. Granted that it was PR BH vs Scum BH in oats post. But BH still seems like he cares.
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On September 04 2014 07:26 Holyflare wrote:
if you're honestly telling me it's not a slip and you are town then you are letting wave get away with murder/the game
I'm 100% fucking serious it wasn't a slip
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On September 03 2014 14:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 09:23 Amiko wrote:
@Oats:
Since you are sheeping marv on the off chance we get to day 5 I'll be asking you to vote on marv and letting me hammer. So let's talk till you realize the error of your ways.
- Did that question about me being happy early game have any significance?
- What do you think of the conversations between you and marv while blazinghand was up for lynch?
I didn't see an answer from marv to your question as to whether whether Blazinghand gave up as scum, but not too much else to say.
- As I see it, you thought I was suspicious on D2 based on thinking that although I had decided to vote Blazinghand, I hadn't voted. I don't understand this because (1) I think it's fairly obvious I was asking questions regarding the other players before you ever raised that point and (2) I don't real see why voting early or late seems suspicious, anyway. I guess a mafia player in Cell 4/5 could vote at the last minute to get a mislynch (and then just hope to get two more before that Cell ever comes up), but I don't see anyone as having done that so otherwise it seems null to me.
- If you think voting early or late is a scumtell, why is that any more valid than BH's slip pre-game and during-game? It seems to me the other 'slip' would be more reliable.
- If you think voting late is a scumtell, why aren't you reading any other players who voted late as scummy?
(Don't you wish Cell C was 3rd now? :D) er lets do this one line at a time. No, and I dont know why marv asked me to explain it. Possible filler. marv had a whole lotta meta reasons why blazinghand was scum but never wrote it out fully intending to convince people, just sat back and sniped at whoever called bh town. Its not about voting late as in 1 min before the deadline. Its about not making a clear stand so its not so suspicious when your team decides on a change in direction. Town dont give a shit about their own voting patterns so they vote willynilly. Scum more careful with their votes. GENERALLY. After that bit and the last few days, your questions have gotten a lot better and there is more direction rather than questions for the sake of questions.
The post where Oats calls marv scum?
On September 03 2014 19:48 marvellosity wrote:
has Oats taken to calling me mafia? excellent.
On September 04 2014 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
mm1/oats = win
I don't know why HF, says oats when i don't think he has ever explicitly said that marv was town? or gave a case on the three of you in that cell.
On September 04 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
he posted that he was sheeping marv after he scum read him as if it was a useful comment, he's also been very sure of things like "NUUU it's a town tell" and "no bla bla is definitely mafia" while ignoring everyone else
i wouldn't honestly be surprised if wave was mafia with oats though
mentions oats with wave.
@HF and @WOS, can you guys both give town/mafia cases for marv?
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i'm also going to take 10 hour break from this, and think about WOS.
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On September 04 2014 20:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 20:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 04 2014 20:12 Holyflare wrote:
Just like your read on all the ither cells, based solely on one person with no questioning whether it's wrong or not and ignoring everything else non of it was wrong though. Right = town. I DONT CARE WHAT YOU SAY. yes so therefore voting me = wrong wrong = mafia?
This is the problem i have with HF and i guess Oats to some extent. However HF, has been trying to bury me the whole entire day, because of "wrong" things that i have done.
Town is allowed to be wrong, i don't have perfect information.
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@Amiko i asked oats in particular cause he just mentioned the vote switching, but i'll ask everyone else besides HF since his answer is apparent.
I'd also like to remind everyone that HF has been lieing in his claim against me, and exaggerating "truths" to get me mislynched today. He also has recognized the possibility that
On September 04 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
he posted that he was sheeping marv after he scum read him as if it was a useful comment, he's also been very sure of things like "NUUU it's a town tell" and "no bla bla is definitely mafia" while ignoring everyone else
i wouldn't honestly be surprised if wave was mafia with oats though
He has also failed to answer my question, on why he is townreading marv.
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what they think of my late vote switching. HF is convinced it is the scumies thing a scumlord can do
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Can i give you a real life narrative of the events that hapened that day?
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I woke up that morning, read Apathy's post and thought to myself, my top town read in that cell is pretty convinced this wade is mafia. So i end up switching my vote.
i then start walking to work and reading the thread, and when i clock in for work,, i realize that bunnies is probably mafia. However at that point its too late. The only possible way to switch my vote is 5 minutes before deadline. Instead of 4 hours before deadline.
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On August 28 2014 10:18 Holyflare wrote:
I have a huge problem with this trap. I could be wrong but to the best of my knowledge WoS, is a veteran in forum mafia, why then does he give this person the trap instead of me, whose only played 5 games? He then uses this information to conclude that WoS is town and that i'm scum. Even from before this point he's already semi-convinced that i'm the mafia in the group. However for the sake of brevity i'll keep the posts where he calls me mafia or throws scum on me without content out of here.
On August 28 2014 10:45 Holyflare wrote:
But if marv is mafia he's pretty straightforward to read and would be an easy point for town which we might not ever reach because you'd be placing him last. Which is why making orders before everyone has spoken is silly.
Claims this during mayor elections, but if marv is soo easy to read, where is this townread that i've asked HF for? I would think that this townread is super important!
There was a weird interaction by HF:
On August 28 2014 09:41 Holyflare wrote:
Not really no. Batsnacks did annoying things and then disappeared and ritoky had a redeeming moment where he questioned apathy about marv. Wave is probably mafia for this scummy afk after question asking.
and then
On August 28 2014 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
Oh nvm mystery IS in my group
After that he switches to calling me mafia the whole entire game, cause he thinks im an easier MISLYNCH!^^
+ Show Spoiler +Here's a little section where we see HF proceeds to call a whole bunch of people mafia!!!! Who then later turned out to be TOWN!!!, and defended people who could be MAFIA!!!On August 28 2014 10:14 Holyflare wrote:
Also lilwade is probably definitely 100% mafia. He's posted in his newbie game quite a few times since we got our pm's and not here at all On August 28 2014 19:42 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2014 14:38 lilwade wrote:
Hello, just your fellow town hero nothin to see here.
As for order goes I have no preference being as I have only played with 1 or 2 of you.
Cant believe all the butthurt people at ritokys great posts.
Empathy you are clearly the mafia in our cell. Why did it take you 7 hours to post here but you were posting in your newbie game instead? HF proceeds to shit on poor lilwade On August 28 2014 19:48 Holyflare wrote:
Also mm is that really all you're going to say and then you just leave? Totally different opening from any of your games and 0 content. Pretty sure you're the mafia after all. On August 28 2014 21:11 Holyflare wrote:
Why does mm1's entrance not disturb you bunnies? Seem really weird that he would mention bunnies specifically in this scenario, unless he wanted help to throw scum on me! On August 29 2014 01:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 01:45 lilwade wrote:
HolyFlare I was in the midst of making a campaign but I decided I knew little about day one cell tactics so I decided against it. I wanted to see also how cells are chosen or educated guessing about the order. It looks like you need to get on board with womens right as well. So you ditched the campaign and decided to do nothing instead? You left with a very random bunnies is mafia post but didn't say why. Elaborate that please. Probably defending his partner, and pushing scum onto poor lilwade just found this juicy little gem where QUOTE] On August 29 2014 04:36 Holyflare wrote:On August 29 2014 04:34 Professor Apathy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 04:25 Holyflare wrote:On August 29 2014 04:00 Professor Apathy wrote:
Also Holyflare gets massive minus points for trying to put me early. He knows I kill myself as towny everytime I have to defend myself because I'm too tired of having to talk with people like BH / ritoky and already my notes are full of people that read nothing but "noisy" or "way too annoying"
The only way that doesn't happen is when I'm last and can't do that because we'd lose if I did that. Who says you have to defend yourself? you honestly don't think that's going to happen? Well I'd hope that if you were town then you could just point out the mafia and life would be dandy however i get scumread for following apathy, my top town in that cell, and then switching my vote afterwards vOv On August 29 2014 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
Yes keep being useless batsnacks more scum on town batsnacks On August 29 2014 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
Yes ok batsnacks you continue being irrelevant this game plodding along with your rng. even more scum
+ Show Spoiler +You thought i was done! ^^ On August 29 2014 07:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 04:43 MysteryMeat1 wrote:On August 29 2014 03:29 mtamburini wrote:On August 28 2014 16:39 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
you should make me town mayor
my credentials
-i'm town
-i follow RNGesus
You should vote for me we have the same platform. ##VOTE: mtamburini This is not a real exchange throws scum on me for literally no reason at all On August 29 2014 07:41 Holyflare wrote:
You didn't post enough for me to get a read on you to put you before me. Wave fell into the trap thing about being a vt/town and answered correctly and mm1 has done nothing but support tambo out of the blue and afk. I think my cell is pretty open and shut someone HF is convinced that he's managed to find all of the mafia, in BS, lilwade, and ME!, Support HF in mislynching more town!On August 29 2014 13:36 Holyflare wrote:Because it's wildly different from every town game??? Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 07:44 marvellosity wrote:
I also refuse to believe, given MM1's propensity to look extremely scummy in every game that he's been in, you can have any confidence that he is mafia from what he posted so far.
Holyflare For that to have any basis it means marv should have at least read mm1's games otherwise it's just a useless pile of poop. If you've read mm1's games you know it's not really the same at all I would say this game is very similar to my first town game....
Anyway i'm pretty bored of filter diving HF and rereading all the scummy things he's done. However there is one more exchange that i would like to take a look at because it involves all three people in my cell.
+ Show Spoiler +On September 01 2014 07:04 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 06:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote:On September 01 2014 06:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Simba.... Wtf.... I thought what we had was special....
Also, because Marv was playing like Marv plays in his town games. Marv has really good reads in his town games. Therefore, sheepable marv.
I thought we went over this HF? Like i already admitted to sheeping ritoky, and didn't vote bats who happened to be town. The reason i give apathy points is becasue if he was mafia, i think it would be easier for him to just vote for ojou-sama (bunnies) and make a case against her. I'll admit to not knowing how to read lilwade, as i don't recall ever playing with him and he hasnt posted stuff. not afraid to admit to sheeping someones reads on him. I think ojou-sama is scummy so i'm voting for her.. I don't understand this thought process at all. On September 01 2014 07:05 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 06:56 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Also reading back on bunnies filter it seemed like she was like oh, i know ritoky is mafia, im going to vote on him to get me some points later. Oh everyone thinks hes town? time to vote for someone else. Thats how i interpreted that response Or this one. On September 01 2014 07:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 07:04 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 01 2014 06:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote:On September 01 2014 06:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Simba.... Wtf.... I thought what we had was special....
Also, because Marv was playing like Marv plays in his town games. Marv has really good reads in his town games. Therefore, sheepable marv.
I thought we went over this HF? Like i already admitted to sheeping ritoky, and didn't vote bats who happened to be town. The reason i give apathy points is becasue if he was mafia, i think it would be easier for him to just vote for ojou-sama (bunnies) and make a case against her. I'll admit to not knowing how to read lilwade, as i don't recall ever playing with him and he hasnt posted stuff. not afraid to admit to sheeping someones reads on him. I think ojou-sama is scummy so i'm voting for her.. I don't understand this thought process at all. it does if mm is mafia with bunnies because then he's all like "yeh if toad was mafia he could definitely make a case on mafia bunnies cz she's mafia" On September 01 2014 07:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh wait I think I was just misreading it.
Thought he was referring to batsnacks for some reason
If we look at the exchange, WoS suffers a momentary lapse in reading ability mistakes what i'm saying. HF then jumps in and provides that the only alternative world where what i say makes sense is that if i was mafia with bunnies. Not only does he try to link us together, but If HF thinks i'm mafia with bunnies, and has thought that i was mafia the whole entire game, why does he not vote for bunnies there?
I would also like to note, that there are like 20 more posts of HF calling town mafia in the early days. There is also the repitive narrative of HF questioning his partners and then switching his vote for w/e reason.
QUOTE]On September 01 2014 11:49 Damdred wrote:
On September 01 2014 11:36 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I'm rethinking my position on bunnies, Like you noted above, bunnies does vote for BH over BSnacks, at a time when the votes were pretty close.
Is that the only reason that you are rethinking bunnies? What has bunnies done that is scum/town in your mind right now MM?
Also reading the thread, just the way that the thread feels it does not feel like BH is getting lynched at the time bunnies votes for BH. At the time the thread is dog piling onto bats and he never recovers, and the people who were town reading bats were absent at that point. Would you disagree with this assessment MM?[/QUOTE]
I would also like to point out what town damdred said here. I think bunnies switches her vote comfortably knowing that BH isn't going to get lynched. In a worst case scenario, BH does get lynched, her vote is late enough that she can claim that she basically hammered her teamate. Making her an autowin for her cell when she was up next.
@Amiko, mafia partners do bus, especially if they have a good team, they only need to distance a little bit.
like i said earlier
Mafia this game are probably, BH,bunnies, your mom, HF, marv
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not to mention that fact that HF lied
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I think d1 things are important, its easier to catch mafia later on in the game based on what they said d1
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On September 05 2014 06:36 Holyflare wrote:
That post is terribly formatted and contains the majority of things from day 1, also the fact that i said that trap doesn't actually make wave town shows that you just actually read my filter instead of knowing what happened in the context which means you haven't really been focusing on our cell at all when it should be the easier one for you to determine.
Also, you're calling me scummy from switching from bunnies to wade when you did a 10x worse version of it????
i did focus on it, you asked wave what his role pm read, and he afked, and you were like tick tick your scumminess is increasing bro.
I didn't even have to go back to reread the thread.
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also HF can you please tell me why you lied, and give a townread on marv. Or are we just going to ignore that for the next 24 hours
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so you are also scum reading Marv?
On September 04 2014 07:30 Holyflare wrote:
if it's a shit post then why have 3-4 people agreed with it?
only marv agreed with it, yet you blatantly exaggerated your claim, to throw additional scum on me
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where did you say it was a joke?
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On September 05 2014 06:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 14:25 Holyflare wrote:
If you think my comment about you being mafia was anything but a joke earlier you crazy mofo. Amiko defending wasn't the same as marv's because he was just pointing it out as a devil's advocate kind of thing. Marv used it to drive suspicion onto me without seemingly reading the games (although later took it back). Right here you scummy mofo. What happened to reading wave?
On August 28 2014 08:51 Holyflare wrote:Hey wave are you vt? 
its literally a full day later, its about as impressive as you saying i can't make a retroactive case earlier
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