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On August 05 2014 00:20 Vivax wrote:
@ JAT:
I would say that you should have by now realized that me "defending" Haru wasn't intended as defending Haru but simply saying that I didn't agree with the arguments HF was using, which was that huge focus on the -1 +1 part. I preferred to focus on Haru saying he was null on WoS, so maybe he didn't really think that math through properly but just wanted to express in a weird way he was null on WoS.
So far three interpretations of that post of mine have been posted: I shut down discussion, I defend, and I simply express my point of view.
What it ultimately means is up to the intention of the observer in my regards, does he only try to find a bad interpretation, or does he consider the post from both perspective?
Nope, you meant this.
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On August 05 2014 21:00 Eden1892 wrote:
i keep glazing over when i go to read it but here's my tl;dr of his filter
- /towncircle LLC membership
- lots of talking to the people he's accusing, very few attempts to convince us to lynch them
- seems pretty wishy-washy on his reads
there's a couple of things i felt decent to good about in what he was saying earlier (couple of posts where he pays close attention to whether people are representing their cases in a balanced fashion vs one-sided fashion that seems like he's trying to figure it out), but those things miss some crucial followup, and he doesn't have any thread presence to speak of
yeah i could kill him
feels to me like he's just doing that so that he's doing something. Like you say it misses the followup.
Reading Artanis' filter as well though, there's not a lot I can hang my hat on. Who is scummy? Haru? Well - Artanis made that strange "meh" post where he agreed with someone posting something about Haru doing something townie.
On August 05 2014 08:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 08:24 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 05 2014 08:15 HaruRH wrote:On August 05 2014 08:09 Holyflare wrote:Someone read this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=HaruRHSave me from the tunnel plz because in the town games that I've read from haru when he scum hunts it includes quotes and posts and reasons and questions and he tries to find things, all I've seen from him now is generic lists and surface reading all over again and he just echos a lot of things already said Dude wtf you're still twisting my words I already said posting with quotes is paramount to suicide on mobile. Also, I did not spend 25 minutes finding those stuff. I spent less than 3, but the effort of trying to copy and paste the quote using mobile is like trying to swallow a sword Continue riding in the haru tunnel. Many had done so and collapsed in it. Known victims: rainbows, glowingbear This post looks towny btw Reminds me of legit pissed wave but then again I am turrible with newbie comparisons or at least people new to me THE HARU READ IS COMING #yolopromises I actually kind of agree with this, meh. I found the "meh" bit really out of place, like... I can't explain. Just why is it put across in that tone or something.
Other than that, a brief bit on Obi, which is... meh ^^
My impressometer is stuck on very low for this filter.
Seems too good to be true that both are mafia though.
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marv, vivax writes like proust. dense but ripe with insight. Give townie vivax a chance!
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On August 05 2014 21:13 kushm4sta wrote:
marv, vivax writes like proust. dense but ripe with insight. Give townie vivax a chance!
what's the insight?
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Well, I did put in a bunch of effort this game but my brain seems to be absent so it's not really helping.
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On August 05 2014 21:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well, I did put in a bunch of effort this game but my brain seems to be absent so it's not really helping.
well you still have all day. i don't really know what i want from you though :x
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On August 05 2014 21:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 21:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well, I did put in a bunch of effort this game but my brain seems to be absent so it's not really helping. well you still have all day. i don't really know what i want from you though :x
I could say that I don't think I've ever used meta reads as scum because I've always been too lazy, but given I'm aware of that I guess that's not a very strong argument.
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which metaread of yours took effort?
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Actually I think I did use meta once. And with that I mean actually checking games and testing things rather than just using recollection.
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On August 05 2014 21:17 kushm4sta wrote:
which metaread of yours took effort?
i expect an answer to my question
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Yung Beetlejuice returns
@marv it does seem too good to be true, and more crucially (for me anyway) i'm trying to figure out where the scumteam's attempt to misdirect is. with 3 slots i would expect at least one mobster to be active itt throwing us the wrong way, especially in a game with a lot of people that know their way around. mafia isn't going to get 4 ml's on this crew without actively trying to mislead, but then why are all the scummy people the ones who aren't doing anything?
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On August 05 2014 21:17 kushm4sta wrote:
which metaread of yours took effort?
Any meta read where I actually open their previous games instead of just thinking back.
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On August 05 2014 21:18 Eden1892 wrote:
Yung Beetlejuice returns
@marv it does seem too good to be true, and more crucially (for me anyway) i'm trying to figure out where the scumteam's attempt to misdirect is. with 3 slots i would expect at least one mobster to be active itt throwing us the wrong way, especially in a game with a lot of people that know their way around. mafia isn't going to get 4 ml's on this crew without actively trying to mislead, but then why are all the scummy people the ones who aren't doing anything?
who cares? all that is unimportant on day 1 (and mostly after too), you just find someone who looks like mafia and you lynch them.
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On August 05 2014 21:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 21:15 marvellosity wrote:On August 05 2014 21:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well, I did put in a bunch of effort this game but my brain seems to be absent so it's not really helping. well you still have all day. i don't really know what i want from you though :x I could say that I don't think I've ever used meta reads as scum because I've always been too lazy, but given I'm aware of that I guess that's not a very strong argument.
i don't really want you to defend yourself though. i just want... i dunno. things. i feel quite uneasy about lynching you but at the same time i can't find anything why i shouldn't.
for a start, your vote should not be on me. that's stupid.
same with Vivax.
Coincidence that i want to kill Art & Vivax? I think not.
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It doesn't really matter where my vote is right now though.
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On August 05 2014 21:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It doesn't really matter where my vote is right now though.
Make it matter then.
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I mean if you've "put in a bunch of effort this game" and yet your vote is on me because "it doesn't matter" then something has seriously gone very very wrong.
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On August 05 2014 21:21 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 21:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It doesn't really matter where my vote is right now though. Make it matter then.
It only matters where it is at the end of the day and it's not like I'm in a position where I can actually exert pressure onto anyone.
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Well I deserve to die, but it will result in a green lynch so that seems detrimental to the whole town effort.
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