EPTOn August 13 2014 04:09 justanothertownie wrote:
We need Eden here.
We need Eden here.
Why?
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WaveofShadow
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justanothertownie
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On August 13 2014 04:10 WaveofShadow wrote: I seem to recall what you wrote last night being some sort of shitty catch-up. I know somebody commented on shitty catchups earlier in the thread and I defended them but yours was real shitty. You didn't comment on anything relevant as I recall. Wtf are you talking about? How can you read what I posted and call that not relevant? Btw. I think our definition of "night" might be different. In my timezone my votecount post where I was talkng about Haru for example was last night. | ||
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justanothertownie
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Because I think he is town and I want to know what he thinks about this wagon right now. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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Also doesn't change the fact that shitty catchup is shitty. Wanna comment on that? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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And it was super shitty I'm going to tear that shit apart when I have more time after we lynch scum | ||
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On August 13 2014 04:19 WaveofShadow wrote: I was referring to your comments on GK in that post. I guess that wasn't clear. And it was super shitty I'm going to tear that shit apart when I have more time after we lynch scum What exactly do you want me to comment on re: GK? I don't really understand. Yeah, you do that I am eagerly awaiting it. | ||
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LoneMeow
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Eden1892 (0): goodkarma (0): HaruRH (6): WaveofShadow, Eden1892, gobbledydook, ObiWanShinobi, goodkarma, justanothertownie Not voting (1): HaruRH With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 12 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). + Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] + VOTE: goodkarma voted Eden (Eden1892) (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted goodkarma (post) VOTE: gobbledydook voted Goodkarma (goodkarma) (post) VOTE: WaveofShadow voted HaruRH (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted goodkarma (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted HaruRH (post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted eden (Eden1892) (post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi unvoted Eden1892 (post) VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted goodkarma (post) VOTE: gobbledydook voted HaruRH (post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted haru (HaruRH) (post) VOTE: goodkarma unvoted Eden1892 (post) VOTE: goodkarma voted Haru (HaruRH) (post) VOTE: justanothertownie voted HaruRH (post) | ||
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On August 13 2014 04:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If Haru doesn't vote, we have to lynch him anyway since we lose regardless. This is the first semi-useful thing you said in ages. Good job. | ||
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Eden1892
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Wave I get why you were hesitant on trusting people earlier, and sorry if I was pushin your buttons by continuing to bring it up, it's just that the townies DO have to find and trust each other since it's LYLO. Off the top of my head for Haru being scum: • Not playing the game at non-3p LYLO is a scum tell. In fact it's one of the few factors that distinguishes town from scum! At LYLO the game is drastically different due to a shift in town incentives: now the townies must be preoccupied with their own survival, as being mislynched = lose. The two major differences between town and scum is that scum can lynch anybody and win while town must hit specific people in sequence to win; and that scum have an extra day to play if they "lose" the first round of LYLO (or in this case two rounds). Both of these put all the pressure on town to figure it out and incentivize scum to wait and see where the winds blow. Therefore it is a scum tell and is a valid argument. • You can also basically PoE this game IMO. Wave you do believe Gobble is town right? If so then even just randomly Haru has 75% chance to be scum. In fact Wave as an aside what is your current scum team? • The unanimous vote on Haru isn't as scary as the one on Onegu d2 again because of incentives. Scum have strong incentive to bus a caught partner at LYLO because it doesn't directly hurt their position. With or without the partner they are equally close to winning: one ML away. Busing is the smartest move at LYLO when scum is caught. Of course this doesn't guarantee Haru is scum being bused but it does mean that the state of the wagon shouldn't be reason to reconsider. | ||
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Eden1892
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• The mistrust. I don't feel like any of me/gobble/JAT are hard to trust as town reads right now. • The lack of reads. I don't know where your mind is at right now and it's alarming. • The (relative) absenteeism. Where you been brah? • The hesitance on Haru (although this mostly paranoia from the second bullet) | ||
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justanothertownie
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On August 13 2014 05:34 Eden1892 wrote: More direct to this game Haru didn't seem to have the same drive to catch scum that I expected from him as town. I'm not talking "he's not trying," I'm saying when he did "try" his posts were not focused on scum hunting much. Read his posts from today where he asks questions to people. Where are they going? Where's the followup? Why would a townie ask relatively noncommittal questions like he did when he did and then leave the thread without trying to take them to a logical conclusion? It's not impossible that Haru is town and not trying but I have seen town Haru before and he doesn't mail it in like this. I feel better about killing him than I did 12 hrs ago Yes, Harus "contributions" today have been absolutely awful. | ||
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Eden1892
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Argument is circular I know but I'm bringing it up to help show that the bus scenario is quite credible right now, just think about how those discussions would tend to go in scum QT and it makes total sense. | ||
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On August 13 2014 05:47 Eden1892 wrote: Another thought about the bus situation, Obi and goodkarma both dropped the same vote within 10min of each other. I feel like that's when the decision to bus was made, they gave Haru a chance to move and he flopped so they decided to run with the bus. Timing makes perfect sense to me. Argument is circular I know but I'm bringing it up to help show that the bus scenario is quite credible right now, just think about how those discussions would tend to go in scum QT and it makes total sense. Meh, maybe. I think that's a somewhat weak argument. More telling is that they both basically didn't comment on Haru before doing so. (Yes, I know gk said he would kill eden or Haru but that is basically it), | ||
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Eden1892
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On August 13 2014 05:46 justanothertownie wrote: I don't think Waves paranoia is scummy btw. what is weird is how he just took a huge dump on my contributions today without showing what about them was "shitty". I do a little I just don't have the willpower to punish it when he's still at least trying. Not trying at LYLO is like #1 on my top 1024 list of pet peeves and super good heuristic IMO. But a combination of paranoia and indecisive questioning at LYLO is shady too imo. It's ok tho we have plenty of time to kill him later if my instinct on it being shady is right. Still killing Haru today as there's like no way this dude is town. It's as close to zero as I've ever seen in this game | ||
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