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On August 13 2014 06:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 06:01 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:57 Eden1892 wrote:On August 13 2014 05:54 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:51 Eden1892 wrote:On August 13 2014 05:50 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Another thought about the bus situation, Obi and goodkarma both dropped the same vote within 10min of each other. I feel like that's when the decision to bus was made, they gave Haru a chance to move and he flopped so they decided to run with the bus. Timing makes perfect sense to me.
Argument is circular I know but I'm bringing it up to help show that the bus scenario is quite credible right now, just think about how those discussions would tend to go in scum QT and it makes total sense. Meh, maybe. I think that's a somewhat weak argument. More telling is that they both basically didn't comment on Haru before doing so. (Yes, I know gk said he would kill eden or Haru but that is basically it), Gk is the one I'm better with of the two (just not good enough to change course on probably). When did Obi decide Haru is scum? Like in a post somewhere ideally I don't remember any post of him about that. He just voted in the voting thread. Fuuuuuuck I wish Gobble were here. Obi best lynch from this IMO. It makes sense for scum Obi to do this regardless of Haru's alignment and doesn't make sense for town Obi Nothing Obi has done since we have been in LYLO made sense for town Obi. Provide quotes and scholarly sources. Which you have completely refused to do so ever since you posted your ass backwards analysis.
There is nothing to quote since you did nothing besides your constant shitflinging towards me.
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Why you vote Haru for no stated reason Obi
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On August 13 2014 06:31 Eden1892 wrote:
Gobble been hella active and useful this turn. Not absenteeism.
Please don't get mad Wave, just calmly reread the thread since LYLO started and please tell me that you objectively think that since LYLO you've been decidedly more active and open with your reads than gobble and JAT. From my standpoint you haven't been, which is where my worry comes from.
Sorry that EODs are bad for you.
I don't care about what you think of my LYLO play, to be frank. I HAVE been more active than gobble, first of all if you would simply check filters, and as far as open with reads, I'm sorry that trying to figure shit out so that I can HAVE solid reads isn't good enough for you. Go ahead and worry, Eden. I'll just find the rest of the scumteam and you can pretend you helped, k?
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On August 13 2014 05:28 Eden1892 wrote:
Back fellas. Sorry I disappeared without a peep, I hit my bed like a rock and crashed for a while. Almost fucked it up too since I forgot the alarm.
Wave I get why you were hesitant on trusting people earlier, and sorry if I was pushin your buttons by continuing to bring it up, it's just that the townies DO have to find and trust each other since it's LYLO.
Off the top of my head for Haru being scum:
• Not playing the game at non-3p LYLO is a scum tell. In fact it's one of the few factors that distinguishes town from scum! At LYLO the game is drastically different due to a shift in town incentives: now the townies must be preoccupied with their own survival, as being mislynched = lose. The two major differences between town and scum is that scum can lynch anybody and win while town must hit specific people in sequence to win; and that scum have an extra day to play if they "lose" the first round of LYLO (or in this case two rounds). Both of these put all the pressure on town to figure it out and incentivize scum to wait and see where the winds blow. Therefore it is a scum tell and is a valid argument.
• You can also basically PoE this game IMO. Wave you do believe Gobble is town right? If so then even just randomly Haru has 75% chance to be scum. In fact Wave as an aside what is your current scum team?
• The unanimous vote on Haru isn't as scary as the one on Onegu d2 again because of incentives. Scum have strong incentive to bus a caught partner at LYLO because it doesn't directly hurt their position. With or without the partner they are equally close to winning: one ML away. Busing is the smartest move at LYLO when scum is caught. Of course this doesn't guarantee Haru is scum being bused but it does mean that the state of the wagon shouldn't be reason to reconsider.
Are you being serious right now? I just woke up and am eating my cereals now and this just made me ppaue my eating and ask myself 'what does this even mean?'
Isn't it obvious that obi is the scummiest of the scum? I had to even deliberately point it out and try to sjow it, but I had to go to sleep. There was only a 2 hour window where I could play serious mafia yesterday.
This is still nonsense logic . incentives to bus? When everyone instantly jumped on me? How does that even work?
Now eden I don't have a claim to save my ass unlike last time, but dont you feel this is exactly the same scenario as last time? An afk (on purpose/not on purpose) haru got unanimously voted on.
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##Unvote
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The WIFOM is killing me. >_<
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On August 13 2014 06:34 Eden1892 wrote:
Why you vote Haru for no stated reason Obi
Sheeping my townreads.
Stop ignoring my posts.
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Haru.
YOU HAVENT DONE ANYTHING
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On August 13 2014 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 06:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 13 2014 06:01 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:57 Eden1892 wrote:On August 13 2014 05:54 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:51 Eden1892 wrote:On August 13 2014 05:50 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Another thought about the bus situation, Obi and goodkarma both dropped the same vote within 10min of each other. I feel like that's when the decision to bus was made, they gave Haru a chance to move and he flopped so they decided to run with the bus. Timing makes perfect sense to me.
Argument is circular I know but I'm bringing it up to help show that the bus scenario is quite credible right now, just think about how those discussions would tend to go in scum QT and it makes total sense. Meh, maybe. I think that's a somewhat weak argument. More telling is that they both basically didn't comment on Haru before doing so. (Yes, I know gk said he would kill eden or Haru but that is basically it), Gk is the one I'm better with of the two (just not good enough to change course on probably). When did Obi decide Haru is scum? Like in a post somewhere ideally I don't remember any post of him about that. He just voted in the voting thread. Fuuuuuuck I wish Gobble were here. Obi best lynch from this IMO. It makes sense for scum Obi to do this regardless of Haru's alignment and doesn't make sense for town Obi Nothing Obi has done since we have been in LYLO made sense for town Obi. Provide quotes and scholarly sources. Which you have completely refused to do so ever since you posted your ass backwards analysis. There is nothing to quote since you did nothing besides your constant shitflinging towards me.
Then don't sit here and call me mafia because you can't back it up at all.
Seriously, you're acting like posting bad analysis based on unflipped associations and analysis that other players have conducted is a good thing, and I have no idea why this is. You promised to read my filter to figure out why I was doing the things I was doing, and you didn't. You never posted your findings and never bothered to assess where I'm coming from because you don't care.
And you act like I'm the one shitflinging.
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Btw. Haru if you had actually read Edens post you would know the incentives...
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On August 13 2014 06:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 06:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 13 2014 06:01 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:57 Eden1892 wrote:On August 13 2014 05:54 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:51 Eden1892 wrote:On August 13 2014 05:50 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Another thought about the bus situation, Obi and goodkarma both dropped the same vote within 10min of each other. I feel like that's when the decision to bus was made, they gave Haru a chance to move and he flopped so they decided to run with the bus. Timing makes perfect sense to me.
Argument is circular I know but I'm bringing it up to help show that the bus scenario is quite credible right now, just think about how those discussions would tend to go in scum QT and it makes total sense. Meh, maybe. I think that's a somewhat weak argument. More telling is that they both basically didn't comment on Haru before doing so. (Yes, I know gk said he would kill eden or Haru but that is basically it), Gk is the one I'm better with of the two (just not good enough to change course on probably). When did Obi decide Haru is scum? Like in a post somewhere ideally I don't remember any post of him about that. He just voted in the voting thread. Fuuuuuuck I wish Gobble were here. Obi best lynch from this IMO. It makes sense for scum Obi to do this regardless of Haru's alignment and doesn't make sense for town Obi Nothing Obi has done since we have been in LYLO made sense for town Obi. Provide quotes and scholarly sources. Which you have completely refused to do so ever since you posted your ass backwards analysis. There is nothing to quote since you did nothing besides your constant shitflinging towards me. Then don't sit here and call me mafia because you can't back it up at all. Seriously, you're acting like posting bad analysis based on unflipped associations and analysis that other players have conducted is a good thing, and I have no idea why this is. You promised to read my filter to figure out why I was doing the things I was doing, and you didn't. You never posted your findings and never bothered to assess where I'm coming from because you don't care. And you act like I'm the one shitflinging.
Because you fucking are and everyone is able to see it. Even if you were right and my contributions were subpar which they weren't I would have still been ten times townier than you who did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in LYLO.
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On August 12 2014 23:12 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 15:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 12 2014 15:19 Eden1892 wrote:
Yeah I'm completely with you. I need Wave and JAT to check back in and catch everything (especially JAT) and we can figure it out from there. Gotta get on the same page first.
I think I want Haru first to make goodkarma switch like anybody who's really sheeping Holyflare should do. If there's anybody I feel like I could be wrong about it's goodkarma, because there's an appreciable chance that he really is just completely-mailed-it-in town instead of scum (whereas I really don't see any way Haru and Obi are town at this point). I feel like Haru is probably the highest-% play we have since he's the only one that none of the four of us have any reservations about. I can see posting any big posts is enough to sway you into thinking someone is town. I'm just going to go back to not giving a fuck then. WHY IS OBI STILL REFUSING TO GIVE 3 NAMES FOR SCUMTEAM? Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's not how this game works.
Honestly, you're so dumb. Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 15:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 12 2014 15:26 Eden1892 wrote:On August 12 2014 15:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 12 2014 15:19 Eden1892 wrote:On August 12 2014 15:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 12 2014 10:20 Eden1892 wrote:Problem is that leaves me with too many options still. goodkarma is one. ObiWanShinobi and HaruRH are two others who fit the bill, they drop in sporadically and then peace out and I don't really see where their picture of the game state is evolving much. I feel good about JAT and Wave right now, Obi too but a little less so than them. I trust if Obi does what he says then I can probably feel comfy townreading him and ride-or-die from there. Eh, now that I post it I don't feel confident anymore because it feels like a stretch. I'm probably just going to finish my reread and move on. Busted Uh, not really? lol wtf. "ABUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH YOU'RE MAKING UP YOUR READS" "what reads am i making up cav" "ABUUUUUUUUH YOUR READ ON ME" "where am i making up a read on you cav" "uhhhhhhhhhh my bad lol ##STEALTHUNVOTE" I stand by the fact that you turned around and scumread me for next to no reason after you were so willing to declare that I was your ride-or-die townread. The fact that my scumread was wrong doesn't really make what you're doing any better. Yes, it is wrong, but obi isn't making anything right either by giving such bullshit reasons and giving 0 reads so far.
HOW ISNT IT OBVIOUS
OBI WAS HARPING ON THE STUPID FACT THAT EDEN TOWNREAD HIM BEFORE LYLO AND SCUMREAD HIM IN LYLO
AND IS USING IT AS AN EXCUSE TO NOT DO ANYTHING
LIKE LITERALLY HE DOES WAY MORE NOTHING THAT I EVER NOTHINGED IN THIS GAME
AND HE IS GETTING AWAY WITH A FREE SCUM WIN BECAUSE HARU SUCKS AT MAFIA
STOP HIM
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On August 13 2014 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:
The WIFOM is killing me. >_<
How is this wifom? Your entire case is based on the fact that your three scumreads haven't voted each other and you're acting like it's wifom now?
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On August 13 2014 06:46 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 06:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 13 2014 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 06:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 13 2014 06:01 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:57 Eden1892 wrote:On August 13 2014 05:54 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:51 Eden1892 wrote:On August 13 2014 05:50 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Another thought about the bus situation, Obi and goodkarma both dropped the same vote within 10min of each other. I feel like that's when the decision to bus was made, they gave Haru a chance to move and he flopped so they decided to run with the bus. Timing makes perfect sense to me.
Argument is circular I know but I'm bringing it up to help show that the bus scenario is quite credible right now, just think about how those discussions would tend to go in scum QT and it makes total sense. Meh, maybe. I think that's a somewhat weak argument. More telling is that they both basically didn't comment on Haru before doing so. (Yes, I know gk said he would kill eden or Haru but that is basically it), Gk is the one I'm better with of the two (just not good enough to change course on probably). When did Obi decide Haru is scum? Like in a post somewhere ideally I don't remember any post of him about that. He just voted in the voting thread. Fuuuuuuck I wish Gobble were here. Obi best lynch from this IMO. It makes sense for scum Obi to do this regardless of Haru's alignment and doesn't make sense for town Obi Nothing Obi has done since we have been in LYLO made sense for town Obi. Provide quotes and scholarly sources. Which you have completely refused to do so ever since you posted your ass backwards analysis. There is nothing to quote since you did nothing besides your constant shitflinging towards me. Then don't sit here and call me mafia because you can't back it up at all. Seriously, you're acting like posting bad analysis based on unflipped associations and analysis that other players have conducted is a good thing, and I have no idea why this is. You promised to read my filter to figure out why I was doing the things I was doing, and you didn't. You never posted your findings and never bothered to assess where I'm coming from because you don't care. And you act like I'm the one shitflinging. Because you fucking are and everyone is able to see it. Even if you were right and my contributions were subpar which they weren't I would have still been ten times townier than you who did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in LYLO.
I didn't know posting dumb shit based on blatant falsehoods made you town.
But this entire game is comprised of dumb shit, so what do I know.
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On August 13 2014 06:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:
The WIFOM is killing me. >_< How is this wifom? Your entire case is based on the fact that your three scumreads haven't voted each other and you're acting like it's wifom now?
What is this post even supposed to say? If you are both scum of course this is WIFOM.
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Sooo many questions from these posts in so little time rofl
@Wave: You really gonna try to bluff? Lol. Pls dude I've been busting my fuckin ass all day - shit, all game, although I really dialed it up in the past 48 hrs - trying to figure this out. You can't seriously say that I'm in "pretend to have helped" territory right now. Save the ego BS and tell me what reads you have, IDC if they're not super solid I just want/need to know where your mind's at right now. You mentioned the reads by POE earlier, you got anything else? (if not that's actually totally ok POE is 100% valid at LYLO)
@Haru no I gotta tell ya bro it's actually nothing like Melee Mini. For one you don't have a second head just shitting town all over the place, for another you were around more from what I recall and were more engaged in the thread. Where's the followthrough on any of the posts you made brah?
@anybody did Obi really say he was sheeping his town reads? Lol missed that. Obi can you post those town reads for me as I am stupid
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Dam I wish gobble were here to move I feel much much safer on Obi right now
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On August 13 2014 06:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 06:46 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 06:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 13 2014 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 06:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 13 2014 06:01 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:57 Eden1892 wrote:On August 13 2014 05:54 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:51 Eden1892 wrote:On August 13 2014 05:50 justanothertownie wrote:
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Meh, maybe. I think that's a somewhat weak argument. More telling is that they both basically didn't comment on Haru before doing so. (Yes, I know gk said he would kill eden or Haru but that is basically it), Gk is the one I'm better with of the two (just not good enough to change course on probably). When did Obi decide Haru is scum? Like in a post somewhere ideally I don't remember any post of him about that. He just voted in the voting thread. Fuuuuuuck I wish Gobble were here. Obi best lynch from this IMO. It makes sense for scum Obi to do this regardless of Haru's alignment and doesn't make sense for town Obi Nothing Obi has done since we have been in LYLO made sense for town Obi. Provide quotes and scholarly sources. Which you have completely refused to do so ever since you posted your ass backwards analysis. There is nothing to quote since you did nothing besides your constant shitflinging towards me. Then don't sit here and call me mafia because you can't back it up at all. Seriously, you're acting like posting bad analysis based on unflipped associations and analysis that other players have conducted is a good thing, and I have no idea why this is. You promised to read my filter to figure out why I was doing the things I was doing, and you didn't. You never posted your findings and never bothered to assess where I'm coming from because you don't care. And you act like I'm the one shitflinging. Because you fucking are and everyone is able to see it. Even if you were right and my contributions were subpar which they weren't I would have still been ten times townier than you who did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in LYLO. I didn't know posting dumb shit based on blatant falsehoods made you town. But this entire game is comprised of dumb shit, so what do I know.
LOOK AT THIS AND TELL ME THAT YOURE GOING TO LYNCH ME OVER THIS AND LET MAFIA WIN
COME ON SAY IT
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On August 13 2014 06:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 06:46 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 06:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 13 2014 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 06:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 13 2014 06:01 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:57 Eden1892 wrote:On August 13 2014 05:54 justanothertownie wrote:On August 13 2014 05:51 Eden1892 wrote:On August 13 2014 05:50 justanothertownie wrote:
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Meh, maybe. I think that's a somewhat weak argument. More telling is that they both basically didn't comment on Haru before doing so. (Yes, I know gk said he would kill eden or Haru but that is basically it), Gk is the one I'm better with of the two (just not good enough to change course on probably). When did Obi decide Haru is scum? Like in a post somewhere ideally I don't remember any post of him about that. He just voted in the voting thread. Fuuuuuuck I wish Gobble were here. Obi best lynch from this IMO. It makes sense for scum Obi to do this regardless of Haru's alignment and doesn't make sense for town Obi Nothing Obi has done since we have been in LYLO made sense for town Obi. Provide quotes and scholarly sources. Which you have completely refused to do so ever since you posted your ass backwards analysis. There is nothing to quote since you did nothing besides your constant shitflinging towards me. Then don't sit here and call me mafia because you can't back it up at all. Seriously, you're acting like posting bad analysis based on unflipped associations and analysis that other players have conducted is a good thing, and I have no idea why this is. You promised to read my filter to figure out why I was doing the things I was doing, and you didn't. You never posted your findings and never bothered to assess where I'm coming from because you don't care. And you act like I'm the one shitflinging. Because you fucking are and everyone is able to see it. Even if you were right and my contributions were subpar which they weren't I would have still been ten times townier than you who did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in LYLO. I didn't know posting dumb shit based on blatant falsehoods made you town. But this entire game is comprised of dumb shit, so what do I know.
Ok, seriously. Can anyone see this and think this guy is town? All he does is trying to insult me. He has done NOTHING again NOTHING else since we reached LYLO.
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Whatever I reserve the right to move back if it looks like we're in trouble
##UNVOTE: HaruRH
##VOTE: ObiWanShinobi
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