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On August 07 2014 01:15 marvellosity wrote:
the thing is, Eden can't possibly believe i'm mafia after my play so far this game, and he can't possibly believe i'm mafia for acting like a stubborn child.
so he's basically just annoyed that i'm not doing what he thinks i should be doing, which is pointless.
i totally fucking can believe the latter, don't think it hasn't crossed my mind. you're right about the former and the former carries a lot more weight with any rational human being
but it has nothing to do with me. how does not having any leads and not trying to find anymore, being content instead to rest on a self-described leap-of-faith sheep read onto one scum when there are three to catch, constitute what you should be doing as a townie? like objectively that does not advance your win con
if you're just pushing my buttons i've got a deal for you so please if that's it just say so now
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you're probably going to see like 10 more of those, brace yourself
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On August 07 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote:
lynching mafia advances my wincon, and evidently right now i think sheeping kush is my best chance at lynching mafia
QED
false dilemma. the choice is not "sheep kush" vs "find more leads." you can do both and a townie should do both if they both advance your wincon
unless finding more leads somehow doesn't advance wincon... that's a tough sell, can you do it?
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On August 07 2014 01:24 marvellosity wrote:
i'm so glad eden is here to teach me how to play town
don't know what i'd do without him
well, you know, those who can't do...
why are you doing this?
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On August 07 2014 01:25 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 01:10 Eden1892 wrote:On August 07 2014 01:09 kushm4sta wrote:On August 07 2014 00:54 Eden1892 wrote:On August 07 2014 00:51 kushm4sta wrote:On August 07 2014 00:34 Eden1892 wrote:On August 07 2014 00:28 kushm4sta wrote:On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere. Read the bolded closely. GD is making it seem like Haru is making an association case between artanis and whoever. When Haru's reason for suspecting artanis actually had nothing to do with associations. maybe you could not snip pertinent parts of his post when you try to interpret it... right before that he points out that Haru was sheeping: On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. On August 04 2014 19:04 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 08:18 Eden1892 wrote:
I propose the following rule: If a majority of the members of the /towncircle agree to policy lynch someone, all members of the /towncircle must follow through on the policy lynch until the person who initially proposed it unvotes the target. ##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis Here he sheeps on Artanis. The post before the vote he says something really vague that isn't even necessarily correct. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere. gobble is assessing the only reason Haru gave, which Haru did in fact give - that Arty felt scummy for buddying someone suspicious. this isn't a misinterpretation at all Not sure what you are getting at here. Haru thought Artanis was scummy for buddying someone suspicious. Gobbles says that makes no sense because scum wouldn't buddy scum. But Haru does not imply that scum is buddying scum. He says that artanis is buddying some who LOOKS scummy. that strikes me as a really meaningless distinction. can you explain for me why that's a meaningful enough distinction not only to warrant calling the missing of that distinction a misinterpretation, but a willful one? The reasons people give for their scumreads usually make up a very small percentage of their filters, but they are the most important parts of their filters by far. On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. Gobbles has this to say about it: If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere. According to Gobbles, Haru is suspicious of Artanis because Artanis is buddying with someone Haru thinks is scum. That is not what Haru meant at all though. Haru meant that Artanis is suspicious because he's buddying someone he should have been skeptical of. That major misrepresentation, one that I doubt town would ever make, is the only specific reason gobbles gives for voting Haru. ok, i see how that's a misinterpretation, but i don't see how it's "a major misrepresentation, one that i doubt town would ever make." think about it, you just had to explain to me how it's a misinterpretation. meaning that i, too, interpreted it the same way gobble did. am i scum? I don't think you interpreted it the same way Gobble did. Just because the misrepresentation is hard to recognize doesn't make it likely for town to make it. Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. Eden, when you read that you thought Haru was saying that artanis is scummy for buddying scum?
oh never mind, no i didn't. LOL
i maintain that it's a reasonable mistake for town to make though. i had to think it through a little bit
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On August 07 2014 01:30 kushm4sta wrote:
On top of that, there is no scum hunting idea in gobbles filter that sticks out as "wow it would be hard for scum to think of that."
i'd have to reread, but i do think i agree with this
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i said if you were pushing my buttons i had an offer 
about how much longer would you like to?
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sigh. i can't commit to that until i'm convinced. you know that...
i can go look at his filter again. while i'm doing that, how about giving me a non-gobble lead?
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fuck you
i can't not laugh at that
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how do hos front, marv? how.
i can't make myself pretend uninterested in the question so you quit screwing with me
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ugh, sorry, i really did try
but i'm glazing over gobble's filter. i'll try it again later.
maybe you can give me a meta pointer instead of a lead? which one of onegu or holyflare is exaggerating more about onegu's ability/inability to read holyflare
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fantastic, my turn to watch an argument
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/L4h7pLo.gif)
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whatever i quit trying to read
new list
don't kill:
marv
hf
kush
me
haru
one
jat
might kill:
poof
wave
would kill:
gobble
gk
obi
not in order
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Confession time, Onegu is echoing a sentiment that's been nagging at me for a while. None of the lynches make sense to me and I don't suck at this game so that means somebody good is playing me. It's not marv either, too chill. Holyflare has this problem this game where the intensity/force of his posts are disproportionate to the strength of his arguments and the effort he's put into getting his lynch. Vivax example stands out as exception and blinded me some. I think he's mafia, let's kill him tomorrow.
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I am serious
I request the addition of the Showdown Mafia "duel" mechanic
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On August 07 2014 04:17 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 04:15 kushm4sta wrote:
And no, that's not a reason to scumread him, but it is a reason to not townread him for the shit people are townreading him for. Ok. Please tell me how to read HF then.
Sheep me he is scum
Based Marv. Please give me thy blessing
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I've been sitting on it because I figured I could've found better. But I can't find something more convincing than my gut. Good enough though. Like my idol said:
"I know I got to be right now
Cause I can't get much wronger
Man I been waitin all night now
That's how long I've been on ya"
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I'll post in more detail when I'm not on my phone in traffic but my first post should suffice to get the basic gist of my read
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EPT
