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man I really don't think it's either one of them
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On August 07 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
ok, so aside from sheeping kush onto gobble, who else do you want to kill dunno. only need to kill 1 at once.
if you've done fucktons this game, how is it that you ended up with nothing from it?
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On August 07 2014 00:51 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 00:34 Eden1892 wrote:On August 07 2014 00:28 kushm4sta wrote:On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere. Read the bolded closely. GD is making it seem like Haru is making an association case between artanis and whoever. When Haru's reason for suspecting artanis actually had nothing to do with associations. maybe you could not snip pertinent parts of his post when you try to interpret it... right before that he points out that Haru was sheeping: On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. On August 04 2014 19:04 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 08:18 Eden1892 wrote:
I propose the following rule: If a majority of the members of the /towncircle agree to policy lynch someone, all members of the /towncircle must follow through on the policy lynch until the person who initially proposed it unvotes the target. ##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis Here he sheeps on Artanis. The post before the vote he says something really vague that isn't even necessarily correct. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere. gobble is assessing the only reason Haru gave, which Haru did in fact give - that Arty felt scummy for buddying someone suspicious. this isn't a misinterpretation at all Not sure what you are getting at here. Haru thought Artanis was scummy for buddying someone suspicious. Gobbles says that makes no sense because scum wouldn't buddy scum. But Haru does not imply that scum is buddying scum. He says that artanis is buddying some who LOOKS scummy.
that strikes me as a really meaningless distinction. can you explain for me why that's a meaningful enough distinction not only to warrant calling the missing of that distinction a misinterpretation, but a willful one?
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On August 07 2014 00:51 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 00:51 Eden1892 wrote:On August 07 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:On August 07 2014 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
ok, so aside from sheeping kush onto gobble, who else do you want to kill dunno. only need to kill 1 at once. if you've done fucktons this game, how is it that you ended up with nothing from it? How come you ask the most pointless questions in the universe?
not a pointless question. you clearly haven't done fucktons if you have nobody you want to kill without sheeping someone else
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On August 07 2014 00:55 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 00:55 Eden1892 wrote:On August 07 2014 00:51 marvellosity wrote:On August 07 2014 00:51 Eden1892 wrote:On August 07 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:On August 07 2014 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
ok, so aside from sheeping kush onto gobble, who else do you want to kill dunno. only need to kill 1 at once. if you've done fucktons this game, how is it that you ended up with nothing from it? How come you ask the most pointless questions in the universe? not a pointless question. you clearly haven't done fucktons if you have nobody you want to kill without sheeping someone else you don't understand the game of mafia at all, do you
i don't understand what you've done in this game of mafia if you sincerely have no leads
i asked for this, you're being stupidly combative in response. why?
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On August 07 2014 00:57 marvellosity wrote:
it's not like you spend 1 hour you get 1 mafia, you spend 2 hours you get 2 mafia
you can spend 10 minutes and find 2 mafia, or you can spend 8 hours and catch 0 mafia.
In this game the guy with fucktons of effort is either wrong or useless, and the guy with no effort is town MVP.
doesn't matter. i'm not asking you to show me the scum corpses you've strung up. i'm asking you to show me the guys you'd like to string up. mafia leads, not caught mafia. why is that such an unpalatable request?
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and if you tell me you have no leads i'm going back to my earlier comment that you shouldn't be sheeping right now
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On August 07 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 00:59 Eden1892 wrote:On August 07 2014 00:57 marvellosity wrote:
it's not like you spend 1 hour you get 1 mafia, you spend 2 hours you get 2 mafia
you can spend 10 minutes and find 2 mafia, or you can spend 8 hours and catch 0 mafia.
In this game the guy with fucktons of effort is either wrong or useless, and the guy with no effort is town MVP. doesn't matter. i'm not asking you to show me the scum corpses you've strung up. i'm asking you to show me the guys you'd like to string up. mafia leads, not caught mafia. why is that such an unpalatable request? why does it matter? are you going to scumread me for telling you to go away? if you are, go for it. if not, leave me alone. either situation means you stop asking me these mindnumbingly tedious questions.
the questions will continue until morale improves
i don't believe that you can:
1. be town
2. have zero leads
3. be satisfied with that
especially for someone who's supposed to be a lock n1 kill. wtf happens if you're nk'd, kush is wrong and we ml gobble? your sole contribution to the game will have been to sheep two mislynches. you cannot possibly convince me you're okay with that
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especially since you fucking told me to be online right now to discuss shit with you. now you're gonna blow me off and tell me to go away? the fuck is this
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i bombard the thread with asking you the same question until you get pissed off and answer me
what are your leads? if you don't have any, why are you content not to do anything about it?
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On August 07 2014 01:05 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:On August 07 2014 00:59 Eden1892 wrote:On August 07 2014 00:57 marvellosity wrote:
it's not like you spend 1 hour you get 1 mafia, you spend 2 hours you get 2 mafia
you can spend 10 minutes and find 2 mafia, or you can spend 8 hours and catch 0 mafia.
In this game the guy with fucktons of effort is either wrong or useless, and the guy with no effort is town MVP. doesn't matter. i'm not asking you to show me the scum corpses you've strung up. i'm asking you to show me the guys you'd like to string up. mafia leads, not caught mafia. why is that such an unpalatable request? why does it matter? are you going to scumread me for telling you to go away? if you are, go for it. if not, leave me alone. either situation means you stop asking me these mindnumbingly tedious questions. Whatever dude. I can't imagine that you will really act like this all day 2 so maybe we should all just stop this pointless argument.
what? no
make him fucking do something
if he's town he won't act like this d2 because he'll be dead d2
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On August 07 2014 01:05 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 01:04 Eden1892 wrote:
especially since you fucking told me to be online right now to discuss shit with you. now you're gonna blow me off and tell me to go away? the fuck is this ok the reason i said to be online now, was because i wanted to see what haru would do, at least somewhat unpressured, today before he went to sleep. as in, if he hadn't done anything by now, he would have avoided the thread all day having avoided the lynch. That's also why I told Holy to shut up when he was talking about Haru and his activity. But Haru did show up and quite a bit of what he posted sounded ok. That was the 5 hour thing - when 5 hours passed, Haru's day was passed and he would have gone to bed.
...that's it?
i mean, don't get me wrong, that's better than obstinate nothingness, but... surely you have something else. yeah?
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On August 07 2014 01:06 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 01:05 Eden1892 wrote:
i bombard the thread with asking you the same question until you get pissed off and answer me
what are your leads? if you don't have any, why are you content not to do anything about it? someone who knows me a little better might tell you this is quite unlikely to achieve the desired effects 
then nothing gets done in the thread due to spam and town loses because you wouldn't answer a simple question
who are your leads, and if you have none, why don't you want to do anything about it?
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On August 07 2014 00:57 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 00:54 marvellosity wrote:On August 07 2014 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:On August 07 2014 00:53 marvellosity wrote:On August 07 2014 00:52 justanothertownie wrote:On August 07 2014 00:51 marvellosity wrote:On August 07 2014 00:51 Eden1892 wrote:On August 07 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:On August 07 2014 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
ok, so aside from sheeping kush onto gobble, who else do you want to kill dunno. only need to kill 1 at once. if you've done fucktons this game, how is it that you ended up with nothing from it? How come you ask the most pointless questions in the universe? How come day2 hasn't even begun and you are already calling a leap of faith neccessary? Why are you joining Eden in the most-pointless-questions-in-the-universe race? Because I don't understand what you are doing. it's perfectly clear. if you don't like it, fine, but asking me questions that have no relevance to anything isn't going to help either, is it. Let me rephrase. I understand what you are doing but I don't understand WHY. I don't know if it is going to help but I will still try convince you that this is horseshit.
if you understand what he's doing, feel free to spill it
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On August 07 2014 01:09 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 00:54 Eden1892 wrote:On August 07 2014 00:51 kushm4sta wrote:On August 07 2014 00:34 Eden1892 wrote:On August 07 2014 00:28 kushm4sta wrote:On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere. Read the bolded closely. GD is making it seem like Haru is making an association case between artanis and whoever. When Haru's reason for suspecting artanis actually had nothing to do with associations. maybe you could not snip pertinent parts of his post when you try to interpret it... right before that he points out that Haru was sheeping: On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. On August 04 2014 19:04 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 08:18 Eden1892 wrote:
I propose the following rule: If a majority of the members of the /towncircle agree to policy lynch someone, all members of the /towncircle must follow through on the policy lynch until the person who initially proposed it unvotes the target. ##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis Here he sheeps on Artanis. The post before the vote he says something really vague that isn't even necessarily correct. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere. gobble is assessing the only reason Haru gave, which Haru did in fact give - that Arty felt scummy for buddying someone suspicious. this isn't a misinterpretation at all Not sure what you are getting at here. Haru thought Artanis was scummy for buddying someone suspicious. Gobbles says that makes no sense because scum wouldn't buddy scum. But Haru does not imply that scum is buddying scum. He says that artanis is buddying some who LOOKS scummy. that strikes me as a really meaningless distinction. can you explain for me why that's a meaningful enough distinction not only to warrant calling the missing of that distinction a misinterpretation, but a willful one? The reasons people give for their scumreads usually make up a very small percentage of their filters, but they are the most important parts of their filters by far. Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. Gobbles has this to say about it: Show nested quote +If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere. According to Gobbles, Haru is suspicious of Artanis because Artanis is buddying with someone Haru thinks is scum. That is not what Haru meant at all though. Haru meant that Artanis is suspicious because he's buddying someone he should have been skeptical of. That major misrepresentation, one that I doubt town would ever make, is the only specific reason gobbles gives for voting Haru.
ok, i see how that's a misinterpretation, but i don't see how it's "a major misrepresentation, one that i doubt town would ever make."
think about it, you just had to explain to me how it's a misinterpretation. meaning that i, too, interpreted it the same way gobble did. am i scum?
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On August 07 2014 01:10 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 01:09 Eden1892 wrote:On August 07 2014 00:57 justanothertownie wrote:On August 07 2014 00:54 marvellosity wrote:On August 07 2014 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:On August 07 2014 00:53 marvellosity wrote:On August 07 2014 00:52 justanothertownie wrote:On August 07 2014 00:51 marvellosity wrote:On August 07 2014 00:51 Eden1892 wrote:On August 07 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:
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dunno.
only need to kill 1 at once. if you've done fucktons this game, how is it that you ended up with nothing from it? How come you ask the most pointless questions in the universe? How come day2 hasn't even begun and you are already calling a leap of faith neccessary? Why are you joining Eden in the most-pointless-questions-in-the-universe race? Because I don't understand what you are doing. it's perfectly clear. if you don't like it, fine, but asking me questions that have no relevance to anything isn't going to help either, is it. Let me rephrase. I understand what you are doing but I don't understand WHY. I don't know if it is going to help but I will still try convince you that this is horseshit. if you understand what he's doing, feel free to spill it Well, it seems like he is sheeping his townread. What more can I say.
forget i asked
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marv, if you don't have leads, why aren't you trying to get any
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you guys give people with reputation way too much leeway to be useless
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On August 07 2014 01:12 Holyflare wrote:
So let's continue where we left off
that being
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meh tbh i got the same vibe at a couple of points. i ignored it because i figured if you were town it would work itself out, and later because i felt your push on Vivax was pretty townie
imma wait for him to finish catching up and see where he stands before i worry about it. but go ahead in the meantime
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