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On August 08 2014 13:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2014 13:31 gobbledydook wrote:On August 08 2014 13:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
You're grossly underestimating the RL strings I had to pull just to be around at EoD.
Saying that I'm scummy for not knowing who the fuck to lynch at the very end of the day is absolute bullshit. I could have just thrown my vote down on Haru and fucked right off with a very real and believable excuse and we wouldn't even have a problem. I get that you have an issue with me not pushing my scumreads; really, I do. I get gunshy because, as a guy who has gotten mislynched under the absolute worst fucking circumstances, I absolutely hate missing as town.
I even made it clear to the thread that I wouldn't be around EoD. I could have just not shown up at all. But I did. I did, and I tried my best but at the end of the day I was still relatively unsure. Ultimately, I threw my vote down on GD, and that should have cleared any doubts that you had, but for some reason it doesn't.
If you're going to go after me for not liking killing people a whole lot, then go ahead. Don't sit here and fuck with me for not going after people for the slightest bullshit like you do. Since you appeared: What's your opinion of marv's case on onegu/artanis? It's the biggest thing happening recently and ctrl-F suggests you haven't had your say on it yet. I don't know. I'll check. Why were you so pissed off at kush? You never bothered talking to him about his case and you really only came out when he was dead. Why didn't you address him?
What was there to say to him? He was determined to get me lynched and he rejected all the town arguments other people e.g. Eden made about me. If someone good like eden can't convince him the shitty town gobbledydook can't either. Then I got frustrated because people were riding on the dead kush's read when the fact that kush is town doesn't make his argument any more correct it only means it wasn't made out of malice.
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On August 08 2014 13:44 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2014 13:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 08 2014 13:31 gobbledydook wrote:On August 08 2014 13:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
You're grossly underestimating the RL strings I had to pull just to be around at EoD.
Saying that I'm scummy for not knowing who the fuck to lynch at the very end of the day is absolute bullshit. I could have just thrown my vote down on Haru and fucked right off with a very real and believable excuse and we wouldn't even have a problem. I get that you have an issue with me not pushing my scumreads; really, I do. I get gunshy because, as a guy who has gotten mislynched under the absolute worst fucking circumstances, I absolutely hate missing as town.
I even made it clear to the thread that I wouldn't be around EoD. I could have just not shown up at all. But I did. I did, and I tried my best but at the end of the day I was still relatively unsure. Ultimately, I threw my vote down on GD, and that should have cleared any doubts that you had, but for some reason it doesn't.
If you're going to go after me for not liking killing people a whole lot, then go ahead. Don't sit here and fuck with me for not going after people for the slightest bullshit like you do. Since you appeared: What's your opinion of marv's case on onegu/artanis? It's the biggest thing happening recently and ctrl-F suggests you haven't had your say on it yet. I don't know. I'll check. Why were you so pissed off at kush? You never bothered talking to him about his case and you really only came out when he was dead. Why didn't you address him? What was there to say to him? He was determined to get me lynched and he rejected all the town arguments other people e.g. Eden made about me. If someone good like eden can't convince him the shitty town gobbledydook can't either. Then I got frustrated because people were riding on the dead kush's read when the fact that kush is town doesn't make his argument any more correct it only means it wasn't made out of malice.
You wouldn't know, because you never bothered to address him. You basically coasted out the entirety of the night sequence and only came out when he was dead: ergo, we have no idea whether you would have shaken his hard scumread on you or not.
Do you or do you not see the problem with the timing of you reappearing in this game?
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On August 08 2014 13:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2014 13:44 gobbledydook wrote:On August 08 2014 13:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 08 2014 13:31 gobbledydook wrote:On August 08 2014 13:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
You're grossly underestimating the RL strings I had to pull just to be around at EoD.
Saying that I'm scummy for not knowing who the fuck to lynch at the very end of the day is absolute bullshit. I could have just thrown my vote down on Haru and fucked right off with a very real and believable excuse and we wouldn't even have a problem. I get that you have an issue with me not pushing my scumreads; really, I do. I get gunshy because, as a guy who has gotten mislynched under the absolute worst fucking circumstances, I absolutely hate missing as town.
I even made it clear to the thread that I wouldn't be around EoD. I could have just not shown up at all. But I did. I did, and I tried my best but at the end of the day I was still relatively unsure. Ultimately, I threw my vote down on GD, and that should have cleared any doubts that you had, but for some reason it doesn't.
If you're going to go after me for not liking killing people a whole lot, then go ahead. Don't sit here and fuck with me for not going after people for the slightest bullshit like you do. Since you appeared: What's your opinion of marv's case on onegu/artanis? It's the biggest thing happening recently and ctrl-F suggests you haven't had your say on it yet. I don't know. I'll check. Why were you so pissed off at kush? You never bothered talking to him about his case and you really only came out when he was dead. Why didn't you address him? What was there to say to him? He was determined to get me lynched and he rejected all the town arguments other people e.g. Eden made about me. If someone good like eden can't convince him the shitty town gobbledydook can't either. Then I got frustrated because people were riding on the dead kush's read when the fact that kush is town doesn't make his argument any more correct it only means it wasn't made out of malice. You wouldn't know, because you never bothered to address him. You basically coasted out the entirety of the night sequence and only came out when he was dead: ergo, we have no idea whether you would have shaken his hard scumread on you or not. Do you or do you not see the problem with the timing of you reappearing in this game?
Since you want to talk about timing?
This is right after deadline when I responded to kush's accusation made half an hour before EOD:
On August 06 2014 08:55 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 07:32 kushm4sta wrote:This is gobbles scum meta: Misrepresenting townie actions to make them seem scummy. Here's gobbles misrepresenting haru's mechanics discussion: + Show Spoiler +On August 04 2014 21:21 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 20:57 Holyflare wrote:On August 04 2014 20:37 Holyflare wrote:Honestly though, Haru's filter is full of really really superficial stuff. "I think there's mafia in the people leading discussion" "i think this is how scum would be playing and this is how town should be playing" "poof/eden/hf came in with their words" On August 04 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 19:30 marvellosity wrote:
Haru, why is Poofter in that random list of 3 when he just randomly came in, spouted some random stuff, and left again? What made you feel like he's the other 2? Why did Poofter make it in that list as opposed to anyone else? The 3 of them provided content for discussion. Pooft with his random reads, gk with his attacks and hf with his reads too. They steered the discussion into a serious one and like I said, I would not flinch if any of them 3 turned scum. it just seems really surface level and not like paying attention to the words people are saying back to this please went through haru's filter, not impressed. First there's quite a lot of defending wave from meta-scumread, where his argument is very awkward. Then there's his weird scumread on hf/gk/eden, which I still don't think makes sense, why would you suggest they are acting pro-town therefore are scum? By his logic we should lynch all the most vocal towns first to catch the 'hidden mafia', oh wait, nope they were all town, mafia is laughing to the bank. So what he has said is awkward, misleading, and hasn't actually said much of note. He's on my scumreads right now, but behind Artanis. Here he misrepresents the reasons why Haru called someone scummy: + Show Spoiler +On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 19:04 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 08:18 Eden1892 wrote:
I propose the following rule: If a majority of the members of the /towncircle agree to policy lynch someone, all members of the /towncircle must follow through on the policy lynch until the person who initially proposed it unvotes the target. ##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis Here he sheeps on Artanis. The post before the vote he says something really vague that isn't even necessarily correct. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere. Feel free to go through his filter and read the rest of his cases. Here's a little preview: Yep, not doing crap with reads, wishy washy and inconclusive, no promises given, throwing reads everywhere, 0 substantiation, not committing to any scumreads...guess who that is.
I know, it's the person flinging shit at seven people aka HaruRH. yup generalized bullshit. and when he gets own to specifics, those specifics are lies. 1. I don't think I am misrepresenting Haru. I believe what I said is completely true, that Haru has been flinging shit around (and flinging more shit after the heat got on him). He's posted little of value apart from giving vague reads on seven different people and discussing to death the implication of this completely vanilla setup. 2. I think kush is town, I don't think mafia kush would come up with something so detailed against me. But he's barking up the wrong tree.
Here's me responding to his question about my read on Artanis a few hours later
On August 06 2014 11:44 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 09:08 kushm4sta wrote:
wanna update us on your artanis read real quick? I liked his post defending me from haru's attack, I think those are convincing reasons why haru is scum. I didn't like how he hopped onto the vivax bandwagon without any explanation, when at that time if he had stayed on haru probably haru would be dead by now. So I don't think haru and artanis are both scum, I don't see why artanis would scumread haru and actually raise new points about his posting if he was scum too. Artanis scum haru town seems unlikely, why did he have to raise suspicion by doing the swap when haru was perfectly scummy for him to mislynch? Artanis town seems most likely, Artanis is reasonably confident that haru is scum, but he trusts in HF's vivax bandwagon (lapse in judgment for a second? sheep mentality?) and there goes the yoloswitch. This is also the reason why I think last minute switches are retarded, you just don't give enough time for town to think through that choice and emotional pushes on wrong targets are what mafias like and want to see.
He then goes Adkins, reappearing at 9pm my time when I'm playing league and not on this thread and then I went to sleep, I wake up next morning about an hour before deadline and I see kush mass posting cases on me that I know are wrong while I was sleeping. He has not referred to the two responses I made to him once at all, instead talking about my game on webdip yadayada.
So you see why I get this impression he doesn't care what I say? I say something, he flat out ignores what I say and keeps hard scumreading me for something else.
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On August 08 2014 13:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
There is no contradiction.
Let me try to break this down for you:
1) The lynch is between GD and Haru. I am having difficulty deciding which person I want to lynch. I remain mostly unconvinced of the kush case, so I have trouble picking between the two.
2) Eventually, I finally throw my vote down on GD. I think he is the scummier of the two and throw a vote down on him.
3) Everyone mass flips to Vivax. I demand that they stop doing this and they fucking force me to because a no-lynch was inevitable.
4) I vote Vivax and Poofter votes Vivax.
It's easy to look back and see that I was having trouble deciding between the two because I was unconvinced.
Looking at the game now, kush was 110% quit-mafia-if-he's-wrong convinced of killing GD. And then kush dies.
If I wasn't convinced then, I'm convinced now. I feel like you're equating the fact that I thought GD was scummy with the fact that I was 100% convinced of him being mafia, and I wasn't. That's why I had so much trouble.
OK, but then later on you say you're "super down" for a gobble lynch. What changed exactly? If you've already explained this then my bad, please explain again.
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Sorry lemme be more specific with that question
I feel like being "super down" with a lynch implies you feel fairly strongly that person is scum. Yes?
If so then I do think that's a pretty significant shift in your opinion on gobble compared to your prior posts on him. I'm wondering what changed about the game to account for that shift.
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On August 08 2014 14:26 Eden1892 wrote:
Sorry lemme be more specific with that question
I feel like being "super down" with a lynch implies you feel fairly strongly that person is scum. Yes?
If so then I do think that's a pretty significant shift in your opinion on gobble compared to your prior posts on him. I'm wondering what changed about the game to account for that shift.
The only things that changed is vivax died, and I made and explained a ninja vote on vivax.
I don't see how either of these changes make me any scummier.
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On August 08 2014 14:26 Eden1892 wrote:
Sorry lemme be more specific with that question
I feel like being "super down" with a lynch implies you feel fairly strongly that person is scum. Yes?
If so then I do think that's a pretty significant shift in your opinion on gobble compared to your prior posts on him. I'm wondering what changed about the game to account for that shift.
Kush died. Kush was hard-lined on Gobble's lynch, and I need to look over timezones and filters and stuff to put the pieces together. I'm not entirely sure if I buy GD's story.
I'm looking over kush's and gobble's filters now. I probably don't even have enough time for this tonight so I'll probably finish everything up tomorrow, but scum doesn't kill people haphazardly.
The only other reason I can think of kush dying n1 is him not being particularly affected by the town atmosphere, because it felt like it was really toxic at the time. Everybody was raging at each other and calling each other bad (I would know because I did it too) and kush is the one person who will never have any intention of joining in on that shit.
It's an entirely plausible scenario, because Marv, mister-I-am-supposed-to-get-n1'd-always was alive, kind of took part in it too by calling you an idiot and rage-lynching Vivax. Everyone was angry but kush.
It's a possibility. Probably won't be able to cover all of it for a while but I'm doing my best.
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Also, I really like this tone we're setting. Let's keep doing this.
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On August 08 2014 14:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also, I really like this tone we're setting. Let's keep doing this.
omfg this is giving me the WORST vibes lmao
it's like blackmail man! "we're talking so nice right now. don't fuck it up by lynching me!" fuck
i want to believe so bad that you're town and we're on the same wavelength finally but FUCK if this ain't makin me worried
lemme look at this tomorrow aite?
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On August 08 2014 15:12 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2014 14:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also, I really like this tone we're setting. Let's keep doing this. omfg this is giving me the WORST vibes lmao it's like blackmail man! "we're talking so nice right now. don't fuck it up by lynching me!" fuck i want to believe so bad that you're town and we're on the same wavelength finally but FUCK if this ain't makin me worried lemme look at this tomorrow aite?
I was just commenting on how the atmosphere was toxic before, idk how you got this out of my statement.
>.>
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Counting of votes:
gobbledydook (0): goodkarma, gobbledydook, Tehpoofter
Tehpoofter (0): Holyflare, Eden1892, gobbledydook
ObiWanShinobi (0): Eden1892, marvellosity
HaruRH (1): WaveofShadow
Onegu (7): marvellosity, justanothertownie, Tehpoofter, Holyflare, Eden1892, goodkarma, HaruRH
marvellosity (0): Onegu
Not voting (3): gobbledydook, ObiWanShinobi, Onegu
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
Deadline is Friday, Aug 08 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).
+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +VOTE: goodkarma voted Gobbledydook (gobbledydook) ( post) VOTE: gobbledydook voted gobbledydook ( post) VOTE: Onegu voted Marvellosity (marvellosity) ( post) VOTE: Holyflare voted tehpoofter (Tehpoofter) ( post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted Tehpoofter ( post) VOTE: Tehpoofter voted Goobledydook (gobbledydook) ( post) VOTE: WaveofShadow voted HaruRH ( post) VOTE: Onegu unvoted marvellosity ( post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Tehpoofter ( post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted ObiWanShinobi ( post) VOTE: marvellosity voted ObiWanShinobi ( post) VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted gobbledydook ( post) VOTE: gobbledydook voted TehPoofter (Tehpoofter) ( post) VOTE: marvellosity unvoted ObiWanShinobi ( post) VOTE: marvellosity voted Onegu ( post) VOTE: justanothertownie voted Onegu ( post) WARNING: Tehpoofter changed vote without unvote ( post) VOTE: Tehpoofter unvoted gobbledydook ( post) VOTE: Tehpoofter voted Onegu ( post) VOTE: Holyflare unvoted Tehpoofter ( post) VOTE: Holyflare voted onegu (Onegu) ( post) VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted Tehpoofter ( post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted ObiWanShinobi ( post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted Onegu ( post) VOTE: goodkarma unvoted gobbledydook ( post) VOTE: goodkarma voted Onegu ( post) VOTE: HaruRH voted Onegu ( post)
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Apparently you cannot unvote and vote in the same line. fixed.
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Its my girlfriends birthday so I wont be around until my night time. But unlike last night Im not takeing extra pain meds so I should be lucid. And I will stay up until deadline.
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On August 08 2014 15:12 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2014 14:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also, I really like this tone we're setting. Let's keep doing this. omfg this is giving me the WORST vibes lmao it's like blackmail man! "we're talking so nice right now. don't fuck it up by lynching me!" fuck i want to believe so bad that you're town and we're on the same wavelength finally but FUCK if this ain't makin me worried lemme look at this tomorrow aite?
yeah, you should probably get off his balls a bit, Eden.
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On August 08 2014 16:43 Onegu wrote:
Oh and Im not scum.
oh yes you are
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ok... so wait for it... waaaaait for it...
I trust u Cav :OOOOOOO let's make it happen
how you feel about voting for Onegu
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On August 08 2014 20:27 Holyflare wrote:
Bored
I was about to write something similar.
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