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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 12:31 GMT
#2221
On August 07 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
Yes so your entire posting at night and your entire posting now has been baseless then. First you scum read me for pushing weak arguments and then you said it's because you felt like you didn't know who mafia was and felt like you were getting plaued. Now you don't even want to kill me because it could just be low volume posters???

...yeah? so?

this game is hard, man, nothing I say ultimately convinces me I'm on the right track

tbh I felt most comfy during the night with you as a target, but there's a bazillion reasons not to do it that keep nagging at me. "he'll get nightkilled eventually!" "look at all these other far more useless fucks to kill" "you're gonna feel like a dumbass if the scumteam is goodkarma/poofter/gobble and you go bury holyflare for nothing" etc.

i'm throwing around as many realistic possibilities as i can think of to see what sticks with other people and what sticks with me
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 12:32 GMT
#2222
i don't agree that it's been baseless though, just not good enough to settle in on. surely you don't mean that you've never played a town game where 72 hours in you just want to kill everyone, right?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 07 2014 12:34 GMT
#2223
I don't want to kill everyone when there's very obvious mafia targets flying under the radar adding no contributions of their own and then throwing in randoma accusations along with everyone else when a target is chosen.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 12:37 GMT
#2224
that sounds like poofter this game and i'm on board with that

but i seriously have like... what one living person in my "yep definitely town" pile right now

sorry, can't help it, this game is gonna be hard until we catch a mafia and then you'll probably see me go back to ass-kicking mode from melee mini mafia after that
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 07 2014 12:39 GMT
#2225
I can't honestly believe that a town haru would be happy with ppl scum reading me and not contributing to anything whatsoever when he knows his alignment and should be able to give the greatest insight to yesterdays lynch as possible
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 07 2014 12:44 GMT
#2226
Like he did something about the lynch but it entirely focused on obi and was wrong because even though he was showing hesitancy he was definitely forced to switch and gd never had any traction whatsoever
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 12:44 GMT
#2227
maybe... you're both cultists

Sp0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0ky

Haru please give me those townies you talked about again and also tell me what you think happened d1
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 07 2014 12:51 GMT
#2228
Where on earth did onegu go be must respond to stuff
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 07 2014 12:53 GMT
#2229
On August 04 2014 14:13 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:
On August 04 2014 13:25 HaruRH wrote:
On August 04 2014 13:08 goodkarma wrote:
On August 04 2014 13:01 HaruRH wrote:
On August 04 2014 12:58 goodkarma wrote:
On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.

I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co.


Last I checked this is the normalest of normal games. Why would scum have to play anything other than "standard?"


Idk, if I was scum I would definitely sit back and think of how to play this game. So I would wanna check how these people who never posted yet on how they open up. Too stiff = skummer.


So has anyone in the thread met this criterion of yours yet? Didn't you say Wave was stiff???

On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.

I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co.




Assuming you weren't just pulling names out of a hat, is there a particular reason for listing these three? You got a OMGUS they're attacking me therefore they're scum kinda thing going, or is there more to it than that? Care to elaborate?


Note: I have literally 0 experience with purely normal games, so I don't know what to expect other than scum playing out of their minds. Which is what I'll focus on d1.

Yes, that is why I brought out the stiff post argument. I want to see if this trend continues since it matches up with the 'scum playing out of their mind' read I have.

Finding and noting the top towns currently also helps me formulate how scum could possibly act. It's better (in my opinion) to hide as top towns, so I won't be surprised if any of these 3 who are leading discussion/looking towny now would be scum.



Your logic baffles me. You're saying that because scum are so tryhard, they are more town than real town and so the towniest people are scum. You also allege that 'top towns should hide' which is astounding. The only power town has is their voice and vote, why would a *town* want to hide?

What about this simpler, probably correct argument:

'hf/pooft/gk are town because they are actively leading discussion and finding out who is scum and who is town. Scum are among the lurkers who don't want to get noticed'.





uh

I meant scum are so tryhard, I would expect at least 1 of them to be hidden in the top town now so that you all would townread them. Just some skepticism from me.

I think this is more correct:

Hf/pooft/gk are probably town because they're leading discussion and finding out who is town and who is scum. Scum are also amongst the lurkers who don't want to get noticed.


HF/pooft/gk were my initial 'top townies' because of how much they contributed on early d1.

On August 04 2014 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 13:25 HaruRH wrote:
On August 04 2014 13:08 goodkarma wrote:
On August 04 2014 13:01 HaruRH wrote:
On August 04 2014 12:58 goodkarma wrote:
On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.

I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co.


Last I checked this is the normalest of normal games. Why would scum have to play anything other than "standard?"


Idk, if I was scum I would definitely sit back and think of how to play this game. So I would wanna check how these people who never posted yet on how they open up. Too stiff = skummer.


So has anyone in the thread met this criterion of yours yet? Didn't you say Wave was stiff???

On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.

I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co.




Assuming you weren't just pulling names out of a hat, is there a particular reason for listing these three? You got a OMGUS they're attacking me therefore they're scum kinda thing going, or is there more to it than that? Care to elaborate?


Note: I have literally 0 experience with purely normal games, so I don't know what to expect other than scum playing out of their minds. Which is what I'll focus on d1.

Yes, that is why I brought out the stiff post argument. I want to see if this trend continues since it matches up with the 'scum playing out of their mind' read I have.

Finding and noting the top towns currently also helps me formulate how scum could possibly act. It's better (in my opinion) to hide as top towns, so I won't be surprised if any of these 3 who are leading discussion/looking towny now would be scum.



Your logic baffles me. You're saying that because scum are so tryhard, they are more town than real town and so the towniest people are scum. You also allege that 'top towns should hide' which is astounding. The only power town has is their voice and vote, why would a *town* want to hide?

What about this simpler, probably correct argument:

'hf/pooft/gk are town because they are actively leading discussion and finding out who is scum and who is town. Scum are among the lurkers who don't want to get noticed'.




Gobble effectively shot down my argument.

On August 04 2014 14:04 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 13:52 HaruRH wrote:
On August 04 2014 13:40 goodkarma wrote:
On August 04 2014 13:25 HaruRH wrote:
On August 04 2014 13:08 goodkarma wrote:
On August 04 2014 13:01 HaruRH wrote:
On August 04 2014 12:58 goodkarma wrote:
On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.

I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co.


Last I checked this is the normalest of normal games. Why would scum have to play anything other than "standard?"


Idk, if I was scum I would definitely sit back and think of how to play this game. So I would wanna check how these people who never posted yet on how they open up. Too stiff = skummer.


So has anyone in the thread met this criterion of yours yet? Didn't you say Wave was stiff???

On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.

I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co.


Assuming you weren't just pulling names out of a hat, is there a particular reason for listing these three? You got a OMGUS they're attacking me therefore they're scum kinda thing going, or is there more to it than that? Care to elaborate?


Note: I have literally 0 experience with purely normal games, so I don't know what to expect other than scum playing out of their minds. Which is what I'll focus on d1.

Yes, that is why I brought out the stiff post argument. I want to see if this trend continues since it matches up with the 'scum playing out of their mind' read I have.

Finding and noting the top towns currently also helps me formulate how scum could possibly act. It's better (in my opinion) to hide as top towns, so I won't be surprised if any of these 3 who are leading discussion/looking towny now would be scum.


So the people you believe are looking towny are scum? Does this mean the afk scummy lurkers are all town???

You're still not answering my question. With all your ideas of how to find scum, you must have a prime suspect of some kind in mind? Someone you're just dying to learn more about to assert with certainty if he/she's truly scum?

Lack of experience is no excuse. It's not like themed games (excluding the caller ones) are so massively different that your experience there can't be applied here. On top of that, you've been in normal games. So why are you using this excuse in the first place?



You still sound angsty.

What? I said, I'm waiting to see if the lurkers are posting stiffly so that I can group them up with wave. No. 1 scum in 3 people = all others are town? How did you even come to this conclusion?

I still don't have a prime suspect. You probably have not played with me before but I don't do reads d1 (at least not the first half) until everyone turns up and I get to inspect and see how they are linked. Call it bad or w/e, this is how I roll.

Lack of experience isn't an excuse, but expectations will be my worry. I am expecting 1 out of 3 of these boogers to be skum and the remaining few skums to be in the rest.


So what you mean to say is you think most of your "towny-looking" people reads are town? Makes more sense than what you said before, though it's still a bit much for me to wrap my head around.

Can you explain to me why you'd say you'd never been in normal games when I see World Cup Mini and at least one newbie game is in your played games list?

GK showed that he didn't really know what I meant, so hes forgiven.

BUTTT looks like I overestimated the response to my 3town thingy. But gobble again. Ha.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 13:06 GMT
#2230
Is anybody old enough/geeky-niche enough to remember a game called Planetarion?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 07 2014 13:07 GMT
#2231
I really don't understand what point you're making haru
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 07 2014 13:10 GMT
#2232
On August 07 2014 22:06 marvellosity wrote:
Is anybody old enough/geeky-niche enough to remember a game called Planetarion?


Heard of it
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 07 2014 13:15 GMT
#2233
On August 07 2014 13:59 gobbledydook wrote:
I just read the holyflare/vivax fiasco that happened around deadline and the conclusion is WTF is going on.

So here comes vivax, he's gone all day since at the beginning when haru was making that +1/-1 posts. So naturally he's still thinking of that, and then holyflare hard scumreads him for him attacking everyone on haru at that point but not actually commenting on the haru argument. From what I read vivax had already established his haru townread and since he thinks scum are mislynching him he is trying to find out who's scum in his enemies. For some god knows reason aka 'being a dick' he gets EOD wagoned, and then the recrimination flies everywhere, eden and kush who didn't join the EOD wagon incriminate him for instigating the lynch...

This is a complete disaster. I don't know what to take from this. I don't even think all this wagon-starting and recrimination is indicative of alignment at all, there's way too much bad in there that anyone, town or mafia likewise, could pick holes in them.
I don't know if HF is scum or town, he's posted lots of strong reads (but a scum HF is perfectly capable of doing that as well as town I assume), but he's also caused a huge ruckus over vivax (that could be scum muddying the waters or town just not wanting to admit he was wrong). Can someone guide me through that ten pages of shit?


This post is the point I am making.
He brushed my suspicion of you being scum aside, but he himself came up and suspect you. I just feel like my pride was hurt.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 07 2014 13:16 GMT
#2234
That doesn't say he suspects me at all. It doesn't really say anything really.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 07 2014 13:17 GMT
#2235
And certainly doesn't vindicate you typing in all caps saying you were right when none of the people you have mentioned have flipped an alignment yet.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 13:17 GMT
#2236
tbh I'm really not sure on gobbledy but i'm kinda terrified of making the error that kush dies with good reads and then we all end up ignoring him.

i hate when that happens to me, so much.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 07 2014 13:18 GMT
#2237
Do you not think poofter is a better lynch? At least it gives gobbledy more time to make errors if he is mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 07 2014 13:22 GMT
#2238
Reasons: catch up post talking about you rofl
Scum reading you and telling me i should know it's not like you to vote early??
List posts 1
List posts 2
No elaborated reasoning as promised from list post, still has you as mafia
Returns with inactivity excuse abd says he hasn't read again
Asks for someones town reads
Afks again
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
August 07 2014 13:28 GMT
#2239
On August 07 2014 22:17 marvellosity wrote:
tbh I'm really not sure on gobbledy but i'm kinda terrified of making the error that kush dies with good reads and then we all end up ignoring him.

i hate when that happens to me, so much.


trust in your championship belt
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 07 2014 14:16 GMT
#2240
On August 07 2014 21:51 Holyflare wrote:
Where on earth did onegu go be must respond to stuff

Ill be free in a few hours when my kids get to sleep and be up most the night.
Try TL Mafia!!!
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