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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 06 2014 22:20 GMT
#2081
You keep calling the Vivax -1+1 thing a lie when it very obviously isn't to any charitable interpretation of what he said (and a charitable interpretation is merited, since he flipped town), that's exaggeration. You turn around and say "who exaggerates? mafia".

Do you understand what I'm saying here? I really do want to revisit the point you're trying to make here when you're at a computer and can spell it out more, because the way you put it flat-out incriminates yourself and so I'm forced to assume you don't mean what you were trying to say the way you said it.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 06 2014 22:20 GMT
#2082
On August 07 2014 07:04 Holyflare wrote:
Are you people being belligerent on purpose? One of the reasons i scum read vivax is that he over emphasised a 3 line post and he used it to make an argument for people being scummy or towny. He lied to make a read same better. I call him out he replied with some bs sarcastic bull shit.

Another reason is that he returned after afking for a day and continued talking about stuff from the first hour of the game.
Another reaaon ia that he never ever commented on the leading lynch wagon haru but instead attacked everyone scum reading haru (a read he made from some shitty association case or something)
Another reason is that he afkd at deadline and then gave no shits that his town read was dying and instead asked where wave was when wace aaid he'd never be around at deadline
Another reason was that he excessively buddied kush saying he was best town etc etc for scum reading an unflipped player
Another reason was him calling ppl bad and ignoring them and martyring
Another reaaon is that he called marv bad for not lynching scum before anyone had even flipped which looked like he was implying that haru was town
Another reason is that he ignored me a towny because of nothing

I would lynch him several times again so drop this shit I'm not mafia and you are wasting your time. Those reasons are not weak, not bad and not wrong. They are what i saw and what i scum read vivax for. You can continue calling my arguments weak or bad with no evidence of why they are bad and then i will lynch you.


Look this is all I'm going to point you to anymore. I'm done defending myself and this is a wasted night. Carry on doing what you want. If you want to lynch me because i refuse to discuss this anymore that's your perogative. Leave your votes on me as a policy but at least then we can move onto discussing ppl that are actually mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 06 2014 22:22 GMT
#2083
On August 07 2014 07:20 Eden1892 wrote:
You keep calling the Vivax -1+1 thing a lie when it very obviously isn't to any charitable interpretation of what he said (and a charitable interpretation is merited, since he flipped town), that's exaggeration. You turn around and say "who exaggerates? mafia".

Do you understand what I'm saying here? I really do want to revisit the point you're trying to make here when you're at a computer and can spell it out more, because the way you put it flat-out incriminates yourself and so I'm forced to assume you don't mean what you were trying to say the way you said it.


Excessive means i beat it to death more than i should have. I talked about this point onve therefore it's a lie. He doesn't reference just the post he references the specific part of the post which i never talked about. Read my above post and carry on with the game
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 06 2014 22:24 GMT
#2084
This whole +1-1 thing needs to stop. This garbage argument exists since ancient times when philosophers had nothing better to do than ramble all day. I don't think there will ever be anything useful that comes out of this.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
August 06 2014 22:24 GMT
#2085
I just want to ask you all a question. What are you going to do after you mislynch me? Does it help you at all?
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 06 2014 22:26 GMT
#2086
Fucking ninjas.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 06 2014 22:26 GMT
#2087
On August 07 2014 07:24 gobbledydook wrote:
I just want to ask you all a question. What are you going to do after you mislynch me? Does it help you at all?

lol, what kind of mindset is this?
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 06 2014 22:27 GMT
#2088
On August 07 2014 07:24 justanothertownie wrote:
This whole +1-1 thing needs to stop. This garbage argument exists since ancient times when philosophers had nothing better to do than ramble all day. I don't think there will ever be anything useful that comes out of this.

Thank you, Great Arbiter Of Discussion

Please endow me with your Most Holy Wisdom and transcribe upon the arteries of my still-beating heart the names of Thy Three Scummiest Enemies
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 06 2014 22:27 GMT
#2089
On August 07 2014 07:24 gobbledydook wrote:
I just want to ask you all a question. What are you going to do after you mislynch me? Does it help you at all?

uh.

wtf lol

preeeetty sure i've been trying to rally around killing holyflare instead of you
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 06 2014 22:29 GMT
#2090
On August 07 2014 07:27 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 07:24 justanothertownie wrote:
This whole +1-1 thing needs to stop. This garbage argument exists since ancient times when philosophers had nothing better to do than ramble all day. I don't think there will ever be anything useful that comes out of this.

Thank you, Great Arbiter Of Discussion

Please endow me with your Most Holy Wisdom and transcribe upon the arteries of my still-beating heart the names of Thy Three Scummiest Enemies

Haru, Obi was up there but I am not so sure anymore - let's see what he has got to say when he comes back
After that it gets harder. Gobble if Haru isn't scum maybe Poofter.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 06 2014 22:37 GMT
#2091
I think the fact that poofter hasn't been in any discussion whatsoever and the only real scum read he had was marv for voting early is a good indication of his alignment.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 06 2014 22:38 GMT
#2092
On August 07 2014 07:27 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 07:24 gobbledydook wrote:
I just want to ask you all a question. What are you going to do after you mislynch me? Does it help you at all?

uh.

wtf lol

preeeetty sure i've been trying to rally around killing holyflare instead of you


eden, they are both scum. they are definitely both scum.

GD, why wouldn't it help us at all? Do you want to expand on that please? Seems like you mean mislynching you is especially bad.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
August 06 2014 22:40 GMT
#2093
On August 07 2014 07:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 07:24 gobbledydook wrote:
I just want to ask you all a question. What are you going to do after you mislynch me? Does it help you at all?

lol, what kind of mindset is this?


It's the fuck you kush and marv mindset I'm through with this bullshit tunnelling. You only have four fucking mislynches to lose and if the response to me flipping town is welp oops then fuck this shit I didn't know kush could be that bad.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 06 2014 22:41 GMT
#2094
On August 07 2014 07:37 Holyflare wrote:
I think the fact that poofter hasn't been in any discussion whatsoever and the only real scum read he had was marv for voting early is a good indication of his alignment.

That is the point. He isn't participating in this game.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
August 06 2014 22:41 GMT
#2095
I won't even talk to you kush you are the most frustrating player I have played against.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 06 2014 22:43 GMT
#2096
I think my fuck you kush is justified but that gd one is kinda funny :p
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 06 2014 22:44 GMT
#2097
On August 07 2014 07:41 gobbledydook wrote:
I won't even talk to you kush you are the most frustrating player I have played against.

This reaction is really unwarranted.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 06 2014 22:45 GMT
#2098
Artanis/Onegu
Not gonna put a lot of effort into this one cause I can't really be bothered to.
On August 05 2014 21:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It's clear what my position is; Vivax, Poof, and Haru are all legitimate lynches for me. Anyone who doesn't know that isn't reading the thread. Why are you focussing on this unimportant issue rather than the actual reads?

K so let's look at the reasons behind each of these scumreads.

Vivax and poofter are scum because he doesn't know how they are reading him. Know who cares how people read them? scum.
Overall bad reasons with no specifics.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 05 2014 21:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 21:35 kushm4sta wrote:
what does that excuse even mean, artanis? You suddenly got retarded? You don't have time? You aren't motivated?

I suddenly got retarded seems to be accurate. The lack of motivation follows from said realization.
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 21:35 Eden1892 wrote:
arty post some reads please

My opinions pretty much follow popular opinion other than on myself. Vivax' interaction with me felt weird, just answering me when I asked a question and when I returned to the thread he just mentioned how I come back when summoned. I have no idea what his read on me is which is strange when I'm one of the biggest cases in the game.

Poof's return to the thread and his reads make no sense to me. I also have no idea how he thinks of me and have no idea how he hasn't commented on that.



Here's his case on haru. 3 neatly laid out reasons, all of them bad and easy for scum to make. The second is especially bad. Haru didn't realize artanis was joking with his wos townread so that makes him scum?
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 05 2014 21:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd actually go with Haru. I'm not sure if he behaves this way as scum and that one post does give me pause, but (1) the fact that I'm 4th on his kill list yet the one with his vote, (2)the way he referred to my townread on Wave despite being very clear in why it was and (3)the stuff HF mentioned about his reads all coming from stuff outside the game rather than the game itself make me the most confident in him.

Enumeration mine.


~~~
Here is some later, slightly different reasoning behind the Haru lynch.
On August 06 2014 06:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
  • Deflecting something Marv said, bringing up an awkward example where he asks how strong Marv's townreads are compared to me super townreading Wave (which I explained was a joke in the string of posts where he initially read it)
  • List posts after saying he wouldn't bring up weak list posts on D1 as town because he doesn't view it as necessary.
  • Hypocritical in how he accuses other people of unsubstantiated reads when he does the same himself.
  • In the start, talking mostly about things outside of the game (HF has touched on this plenty)

1 "deflecting" lol. Later he expands with this:
1. Because it was phrased in a completely awkward way. It was basically dragged along, and then it turned out he hadn't even read it properly. Why would you bring up something that isn't even related when you haven't even read the context?

Awkward phrasing is a scummy reason to scumread someone.

2 and 3 are exactly the same point pretty much. Haru only wrote the list because he was bugged about it, and kind of as a joke because he said he hated lists. So that is a misrepresentation.

~~~
On August 05 2014 21:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That would require my brain to work, which at the moment seems to not be the case.

This is not an excuse town artanis would make. It's not like he didn't have time to play either. Twice he mentioned how we are bad at banter. He had time to banter but didn't have time to scumhunt?

OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
August 06 2014 22:45 GMT
#2099
On August 07 2014 07:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 07:41 gobbledydook wrote:
I won't even talk to you kush you are the most frustrating player I have played against.

This reaction is really unwarranted.

Nothing I say will convince him so why should I try? Waste of words?
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 06 2014 22:45 GMT
#2100
I am not a fan of scumslips but your posting suggests you think kush is town and you say you play against him?
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