• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:29
CEST 21:29
KST 04:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202542Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up5LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced58
StarCraft 2
General
Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now" Serral wins EWC 2025 TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Would you prefer the game to be balanced around top-tier pro level or average pro level? Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Bitcoin discussion thread 9/11 Anniversary
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 743 users

World Heavyweight Championship mafia III - Page 101

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 99 100 101 102 103 211 Next
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 06 2014 20:50 GMT
#2001
marv why townread artanis/onegu?

gobbles pointint out artanis early doesn't mean anything for their alignment.
1. he dropped it for terrible reasons
2. it's not an extraordinarily odd thing for scum to bus like that right out of the gate.
Early reads don't hold much weight, so they can drop it easily.
They think it makes them look town.
HF did the same thing to me last game we played as scum together.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 06 2014 20:53 GMT
#2002
On August 07 2014 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 05:47 kushm4sta wrote:
jat, you have to understand obi's psychology behind his shit play.
On August 06 2014 05:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:17 Eden1892 wrote:
Welcome back Beetlejuice

Why aren't you doing anything this game?


Because I'm lazy and this game is comprised of a bunch of tryhards who want a belt.

I have felt this way before, like I had nothing to add.

Ok, that's cool. But what is towny about it? Can't he feel lazy as scum?


It's more than just laziness. It's laziness because he feels like everyone is better than him (or trying harder than him).
I feel like that is very genuine psychology that scum wouldn't think to go to.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2014 20:53 GMT
#2003
On August 07 2014 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 05:44 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:41 marvellosity wrote:
I kinda think an Obi lynch is inadvisable too

Why?

Tone I guess? He may not have been very useful but he hasn't sounded/seemed scared to post either. i should probably do a meta check at some point

You don't take issue with how he didn't contribute to the lynch and afterwards shit on it? Without any concrete scumreads?


I'm going to take a break before I address what you just said, because it gave me a rage-induced headache.

Don't expect me back for a little while.
Retired.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 06 2014 20:56 GMT
#2004
On August 07 2014 05:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 05:47 marvellosity wrote:
this yoghurt is delicious

Fascinating.

it has a fruity flavour and a creamy texture, and only 100 calories.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
August 06 2014 20:57 GMT
#2005
On August 07 2014 05:53 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:47 kushm4sta wrote:
jat, you have to understand obi's psychology behind his shit play.
On August 06 2014 05:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:17 Eden1892 wrote:
Welcome back Beetlejuice

Why aren't you doing anything this game?


Because I'm lazy and this game is comprised of a bunch of tryhards who want a belt.

I have felt this way before, like I had nothing to add.

Ok, that's cool. But what is towny about it? Can't he feel lazy as scum?


It's more than just laziness. It's laziness because he feels like everyone is better than him (or trying harder than him).
I feel like that is very genuine psychology that scum wouldn't think to go to.

Ah, ok. I think scum could very well have the same mindset but you are maybe correct if you say that they probably wouldn't admit it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
August 06 2014 20:58 GMT
#2006
On August 07 2014 05:56 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 05:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:47 marvellosity wrote:
this yoghurt is delicious

Fascinating.

it has a fruity flavour and a creamy texture, and only 100 calories.

I am glad you shared this with the group.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 06 2014 21:00 GMT
#2007
On August 07 2014 05:50 kushm4sta wrote:
marv why townread artanis/onegu?

gobbles pointint out artanis early doesn't mean anything for their alignment.
1. he dropped it for terrible reasons
2. it's not an extraordinarily odd thing for scum to bus like that right out of the gate.
Early reads don't hold much weight, so they can drop it easily.
They think it makes them look town.
HF did the same thing to me last game we played as scum together.

i dunno, i just think artanis made quite a lot of effort and posted quite a lot even when he stopped being a lynch target.

i came round on him. i think you should revisit this one.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
August 06 2014 21:00 GMT
#2008
On August 07 2014 05:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:44 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:41 marvellosity wrote:
I kinda think an Obi lynch is inadvisable too

Why?

Tone I guess? He may not have been very useful but he hasn't sounded/seemed scared to post either. i should probably do a meta check at some point

You don't take issue with how he didn't contribute to the lynch and afterwards shit on it? Without any concrete scumreads?


I'm going to take a break before I address what you just said, because it gave me a rage-induced headache.

Don't expect me back for a little while.

rofl
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 06 2014 21:00 GMT
#2009
On August 07 2014 05:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 05:56 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:47 marvellosity wrote:
this yoghurt is delicious

Fascinating.

it has a fruity flavour and a creamy texture, and only 100 calories.

I am glad you shared this with the group.

well you seemed so interested, so naturally i furnished a bit of detail.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
August 06 2014 21:01 GMT
#2010
On August 07 2014 06:00 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 05:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:56 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:47 marvellosity wrote:
this yoghurt is delicious

Fascinating.

it has a fruity flavour and a creamy texture, and only 100 calories.

I am glad you shared this with the group.

well you seemed so interested, so naturally i furnished a bit of detail.

I expected nothing less.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 06 2014 21:02 GMT
#2011
On August 07 2014 05:02 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 04:50 Holyflare wrote:
You would think that if i called someone 100% scum I'd be pushing for them to be lynched or something! Oh wait no i didn't because he started posting in a towny way and i unvoted. You know because he got pressured and made some sense


So you are saying that we should town read you because you backed off Haru when he started to look town?
And what do you say to the theory that you backed off him because you thought it would look scummy to be pushing someone who looked so town?


No because onegu is saying it's scummy and i decided to pull off my read on poofter becaude TO ME he didn't look scummy yet 2 other people started scum reading him after i unvoted. So much logic for me to do, he didn't even look that towny and he'd be the easiest mislynch in the world to push and instead of the lurkers and poofters and artanis' i went for vivax instead??? You seriously saying that? Why is the easier explanation not that i saw vivax lying 100% and then instead of him discussing or acknowledging THE LEADING LYNCH WAGON he decided to ignore every single thing i said and then started calling ppl bad and asking to be lynched and his only content at deadling was that wos wasn't around when wos already saod why. He was scummy as fuck to me and i pushed for his lynch.

You've tunneled me all game and instead of listening to things i say you say it's a bus instead and we should listen to you because you so good. News flash you're scum reading me and I'm town. Shape up.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 06 2014 21:05 GMT
#2012
On August 07 2014 05:08 Eden1892 wrote:
I've been sitting on it because I figured I could've found better. But I can't find something more convincing than my gut. Good enough though. Like my idol said:

"I know I got to be right now
Cause I can't get much wronger
Man I been waitin all night now
That's how long I've been on ya"


If this is true everything you've said all nigjt has been a complete lie. Your 8 step bs, your argument with obi, your statements. All bs.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 06 2014 21:06 GMT
#2013
he does have a point
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 06 2014 21:08 GMT
#2014
On August 07 2014 05:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 05:53 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:47 kushm4sta wrote:
jat, you have to understand obi's psychology behind his shit play.
On August 06 2014 05:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:17 Eden1892 wrote:
Welcome back Beetlejuice

Why aren't you doing anything this game?


Because I'm lazy and this game is comprised of a bunch of tryhards who want a belt.

I have felt this way before, like I had nothing to add.

Ok, that's cool. But what is towny about it? Can't he feel lazy as scum?


It's more than just laziness. It's laziness because he feels like everyone is better than him (or trying harder than him).
I feel like that is very genuine psychology that scum wouldn't think to go to.

Ah, ok. I think scum could very well have the same mindset but you are maybe correct if you say that they probably wouldn't admit it.


My point is that it's a uniquely townie mindset. What's the point of scumhunting if everyone is already doing it better than you? There's no reason for scum to think that.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
August 06 2014 21:14 GMT
#2015
On August 07 2014 06:08 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 05:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:53 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:47 kushm4sta wrote:
jat, you have to understand obi's psychology behind his shit play.
On August 06 2014 05:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:17 Eden1892 wrote:
Welcome back Beetlejuice

Why aren't you doing anything this game?


Because I'm lazy and this game is comprised of a bunch of tryhards who want a belt.

I have felt this way before, like I had nothing to add.

Ok, that's cool. But what is towny about it? Can't he feel lazy as scum?


It's more than just laziness. It's laziness because he feels like everyone is better than him (or trying harder than him).
I feel like that is very genuine psychology that scum wouldn't think to go to.

Ah, ok. I think scum could very well have the same mindset but you are maybe correct if you say that they probably wouldn't admit it.


My point is that it's a uniquely townie mindset. What's the point of scumhunting if everyone is already doing it better than you? There's no reason for scum to think that.

He certainly did not think that everyone was scumhunting better than him according to his comments on the wagons/the lynch.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 06 2014 21:16 GMT
#2016
On August 07 2014 06:02 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 05:02 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 07 2014 04:50 Holyflare wrote:
You would think that if i called someone 100% scum I'd be pushing for them to be lynched or something! Oh wait no i didn't because he started posting in a towny way and i unvoted. You know because he got pressured and made some sense


So you are saying that we should town read you because you backed off Haru when he started to look town?
And what do you say to the theory that you backed off him because you thought it would look scummy to be pushing someone who looked so town?


No because onegu is saying it's scummy and i decided to pull off my read on poofter becaude TO ME he didn't look scummy yet 2 other people started scum reading him after i unvoted. So much logic for me to do, he didn't even look that towny and he'd be the easiest mislynch in the world to push and instead of the lurkers and poofters and artanis' i went for vivax instead??? You seriously saying that? Why is the easier explanation not that i saw vivax lying 100% and then instead of him discussing or acknowledging THE LEADING LYNCH WAGON he decided to ignore every single thing i said and then started calling ppl bad and asking to be lynched and his only content at deadling was that wos wasn't around when wos already saod why. He was scummy as fuck to me and i pushed for his lynch.

You've tunneled me all game and instead of listening to things i say you say it's a bus instead and we should listen to you because you so good. News flash you're scum reading me and I'm town. Shape up.


You're vote was on haru up until marv changed to vivax. You are saying it's townie of you to vote vivax instead of poofter? You noticed someone in vivax play that you could misconstrue as scummy. marv gave you validation by agreeing with you. Why wouldn't you, as scum, vote vivax?

And I resent your statement about trying to get people to listen to me on reputation. I don't even have a good reputation. I have been making arguments and discussing things with people.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 06 2014 21:18 GMT
#2017
On August 07 2014 06:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 05:08 Eden1892 wrote:
I've been sitting on it because I figured I could've found better. But I can't find something more convincing than my gut. Good enough though. Like my idol said:

"I know I got to be right now
Cause I can't get much wronger
Man I been waitin all night now
That's how long I've been on ya"


If this is true everything you've said all nigjt has been a complete lie. Your 8 step bs, your argument with obi, your statements. All bs.

I don't think you understand what the word "lie" means, which isn't a shock considering that you've misrepresented other people's statements throughout the game too

I've had these reservations, I just ignored them because I felt like they didn't add up. I fucking talked about this already lmao

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463513-world-heavyweight-championship-mafia-iii?page=96#1908

Your desperation is showing
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 06 2014 21:23 GMT
#2018
On August 07 2014 06:16 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 06:02 Holyflare wrote:
On August 07 2014 05:02 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 07 2014 04:50 Holyflare wrote:
You would think that if i called someone 100% scum I'd be pushing for them to be lynched or something! Oh wait no i didn't because he started posting in a towny way and i unvoted. You know because he got pressured and made some sense


So you are saying that we should town read you because you backed off Haru when he started to look town?
And what do you say to the theory that you backed off him because you thought it would look scummy to be pushing someone who looked so town?


No because onegu is saying it's scummy and i decided to pull off my read on poofter becaude TO ME he didn't look scummy yet 2 other people started scum reading him after i unvoted. So much logic for me to do, he didn't even look that towny and he'd be the easiest mislynch in the world to push and instead of the lurkers and poofters and artanis' i went for vivax instead??? You seriously saying that? Why is the easier explanation not that i saw vivax lying 100% and then instead of him discussing or acknowledging THE LEADING LYNCH WAGON he decided to ignore every single thing i said and then started calling ppl bad and asking to be lynched and his only content at deadling was that wos wasn't around when wos already saod why. He was scummy as fuck to me and i pushed for his lynch.

You've tunneled me all game and instead of listening to things i say you say it's a bus instead and we should listen to you because you so good. News flash you're scum reading me and I'm town. Shape up.


You're vote was on haru up until marv changed to vivax. You are saying it's townie of you to vote vivax instead of poofter? You noticed someone in vivax play that you could misconstrue as scummy. marv gave you validation by agreeing with you. Why wouldn't you, as scum, vote vivax?

And I resent your statement about trying to get people to listen to me on reputation. I don't even have a good reputation. I have been making arguments and discussing things with people.


No the only people on vivax were me and gk but what does haru and vivax have to do with anything??? I'm talking about poofter. You've made one repetitive argumwnt that my arguments are weak with no quotes no anything and you keep aaying I'm bussing and are genuinely being awful because I AM town and you're disregarding my opinions because you think your high and mighty ones are right when I'm giving you the legitimate reasons i scum read vovax for. If you can disprove vivax lied etc then go ahead because that's not what i saw and he continued to push those lies.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 06 2014 21:25 GMT
#2019
ok HF how did vivax lie?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
August 06 2014 21:26 GMT
#2020
On August 07 2014 05:33 justanothertownie wrote:
HF, who do you think is scum? And don't just say Onegu.

Prev 1 99 100 101 102 103 211 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 31m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 278
IndyStarCraft 252
BRAT_OK 140
Hui .95
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 6336
Mini 868
EffOrt 635
Shuttle 613
firebathero 329
Soulkey 255
Mong 148
ggaemo 121
TY 77
Yoon 12
Stormgate
B2W.Neo797
TKL 208
DivinesiaTV 17
JuggernautJason9
Dota 2
syndereN175
capcasts9
League of Legends
Dendi1587
Reynor96
Counter-Strike
fl0m3449
pashabiceps1124
flusha168
kRYSTAL_62
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox558
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu448
Other Games
Grubby2973
KnowMe309
Fuzer 123
Trikslyr51
QueenE43
Sick24
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 25 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta47
• Hinosc 25
• Reevou 6
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 23
• Azhi_Dahaki21
• 80smullet 11
• blackmanpl 7
• FirePhoenix4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3531
• masondota21850
• WagamamaTV370
League of Legends
• Nemesis4655
• TFBlade1379
Other Games
• imaqtpie1602
• Shiphtur255
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
4h 31m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
15h 31m
Stormgate Nexus
18h 31m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
20h 31m
The PondCast
1d 14h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
RotterdaM Event
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.