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On July 30 2014 03:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I volunteer vivax for player vote counter. ##Vote Counter: Vivax | ||
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Day 0 Vote Counter Vote Count Vivax (2) - Artanis[xP], slOosh Vivax is set to be Vote Counter. Day ends in 44 minutes. | ||
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On July 30 2014 07:30 Vivax wrote: We have some discussion going and try to find the good apples in the crowd, this joke has the potential to polarize and stir chaos and somehow doesn't fit into the zen picture of a constructive town. In short words: Are you scum? Why come in swinging? Yes and I dunno. | ||
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I'm not sure what sour puss is but ok. Just asking about them wisdom teeth drugs. | ||
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On July 30 2014 07:50 Vivax wrote: My post about SlOosh was even more analytical, and not instantly condemning as opposed to yours, which was limited to skip over my point of view to summarize it as being tryhard scum. Faced with your one-way infamy I see no choice but to force you to be prepared for a challenge against my minority, and from what I've gathered, you seem to display a great deal of cowardice, and call my courage retardedness, just like a rat would, to rationalize his failure in facing a much more worthy contender. Please explain. | ||
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On July 30 2014 07:59 Vivax wrote: Already did. That post is easy enough to understand. I was trying to get townreads on early posters, and get a circle to write the law of this town, when you joined in completely oblivious of that noble intent, derailing the thread into an unproductive direction. I would have gotten away with it, too, if it hadn't been for you meddling kids! | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:14 Vivax wrote: I picked SlOosh's post cause it interfered with my intent and was after all, a post that might or might not tell me he's scumreading me. It was one of those posts that have the potential to cause chaos while you try to get a productive discussion going, and people making those posts can say it was meant seriously or as a joke afterwards, whatever they prefer and is most comfortable for them in the moment they have to explain it. Understandable. I found it ludicrous that you would accuse me of "polarizing and stirring chaos" off a duel post, especially since it was just established a couple posts back that it was night time and duels don't happen until day cycle begins. Furthermore, I don't see how what you were doing was necessarily a clear cut way of "making a town circle", because, let's face it, scum can setup spec with the best of them, so I question just how productive your discussions were that you could claim that I was being that much more unproductive. I find it disconcerting that you are throwing mud on HolyFlare in a not-straightforward manner. How scummy do you find him? | ||
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On July 30 2014 10:45 Vivax wrote: I feel like this guy and HF have only been trying to paint all the stuff I've done in the worst light possible, so I need third party opinions. Ok, we (me you and HF) are gonna clear this out now otherwise we probably won't be able to play the game proper since it will nag at our minds and whatnot. I'll step through my thought process from start to end, and give the evolution of my thoughts. Let's keep it civil and clean. The posts in question that started it all are the following: On July 30 2014 07:27 slOosh wrote: ##Duel: Vivax On July 30 2014 07:30 Vivax wrote: We have some discussion going and try to find the good apples in the crowd, this joke has the potential to polarize and stir chaos and somehow doesn't fit into the zen picture of a constructive town. In short words: Are you scum? Why come in swinging? On July 30 2014 07:34 Holyflare wrote: Other joke posts/not caring posts from me and ritoky and you pick out sloosh who is doing the same thing and write a big paragraph explaining it. Reeks of too mafia try hard. My initial post was done as a simple read check / way to jumpstart discussion. I don't think the posts prior were doing much apart from being opener posts, so I went ahead and did it. Your general phrasing of questions was very off putting. When you ask "Are you scum?", how is that meaningful? How is that helpful? Prior, you asked Obi "Will you have the balls to duel somebody at some point in the game or do you prefer to leave it to others?" which also felt quite loaded. There are tones of "are you scum or are you scum". Perhaps I'm reading too much into it / language barrier or whatnot, but that is the feeling that those questions give. HolyFlare (I'm guessing) interpreted my post as a joke / not something serious, and then found your response out of character, given the presence of other joke posts. What soon follows is you basically calling HolyFlare scum in each post you make without being explicit of why HolyFlare is mafia. To clarify, it wasn't explicitly clear to me, maybe it was obvious to you. On July 30 2014 07:57 Vivax wrote: Misrepresentations of my posts will be either corrected or punished. Stubborn perseverance on a point made that apparently isn't valid enough for you to definitely categorize me as scum, but valid enough to be classified as analytical, isn't something I see as townie behaviour. I have challenged your strange confidence you expressed in me being mafia by forcing you to prepare for an eventual duel, and now you have proven my point by saying that nobody can be very confident 30 minutes in the game, yet that post of yours sounded like it was the case, given that it offered no townie explanation for my behaviour. You have backtracked in the face of danger, sir. Prepare for the consequences. On July 30 2014 07:50 Vivax wrote: My post about SlOosh was even more analytical, and not instantly condemning as opposed to yours, which was limited to skip over my point of view to summarize it as being tryhard scum. Faced with your one-way infamy I see no choice but to force you to be prepared for a challenge against my minority, and from what I've gathered, you seem to display a great deal of cowardice, and call my courage retardedness, just like a rat would, to rationalize his failure in facing a much more worthy contender. On July 30 2014 08:08 Vivax wrote: I think the idea Obi proposed of getting one townie looking guy to duel a scummy guy is good. Mafia can cause a lot of chaos in the eventuality that two scummy people duel each other. Imagine if they both were townies. You mislynch one, and they can push the idea that people on his wagon were scummy, then maybe they mislynch the other, and so on. Besides, if mafia so wants, they can simply refuse to duel, upon which somebody has to take up the task and pick one of the two. Seems rather unrealistical. I like the idea of having one townie guy duel somebody who is scummy, it will look one sided, but it will also be one of the opportunities where either scum shows face or has to give up on their teammate, if the target was right. And after all, if somebody is confident enough, he will duel on his own. We should be careful after all to not become tunneled and emotional all too quickly, even though it's hard for me when confronted with HF's attempts to misrepresent my posts and paint me scum. I found this post very reasonable. It clearly explained your intent and explains why you reacted the way you did from a town motivation. On July 30 2014 08:14 Vivax wrote: I picked SlOosh's post cause it interfered with my intent and was after all, a post that might or might not tell me he's scumreading me. It was one of those posts that have the potential to cause chaos while you try to get a productive discussion going, and people making those posts can say it was meant seriously or as a joke afterwards, whatever they prefer and is most comfortable for them in the moment they have to explain it. Without this post, it just seemed that you were calling me scum for vague reasons. Upon leaving thread and thinking about it, and rereading, I feel that both you (Vivax) and HolyFlare are town, and have different playstyles which account for the misunderstanding and consequent finger pointing. This is where I stand. If you have more you want from me, ask away. HolyFlare if you want to talk logics or whatever, I'm here to talk as well. I think that we should clear this up earlier than later, lest we emotionally make a gutshot duel or something. | ||
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On July 30 2014 09:34 Palmar wrote: Now that I'm confirmed town I'm gonna go to sleep. JAT is probably town too. yamato77 sinani206 fuba goodkarma MysteryMeat1 batsnacks raynpelikoneet Damdred many mafia above. ^^  gn Reason being that I think Vivax and HolyFlare are town, and the argument between quite clashy, which newer scum would have more difficulty entering thread. The people who have already entered looked ok and didn't seem particularly awkward. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi is bleeding town if he is who we are talking about. | ||
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Anyhows at this point I'm still feel goods about Palmar's list for reasons I mentioned earlier. Anyone feel not so good about anyone who has posted thus far? | ||
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On July 30 2014 11:37 justanothertownie wrote: Take a look at damdred. Am I wrong or does it look like he is just saying things for the sake of having said something? On July 30 2014 11:38 Holyflare wrote: I'd like damd to talk more about things he read than just obi and setup seeing as he's caught up and vivax is tbd. Other than that (marv till he posts logic) not really anyone else worries me (ritoky maybe). A background of Damdred is that he was invited to TL mafia from a different mafia website. He has then played a couple of games I think, Storm 2 (which I played in) and Titanic 4 (which I cohosted). He generally has a more reserved, quiet type style where he doesn't speak too much but will offer thoughts when questioned on them. There's nothing in particular about his posts that alarm me, and it may very well be that he is posting just to have said something (as town). I don't find it necessarily scummy as it is what I imagine a town Damdred would try to do more (post thoughts out loud instead of only when asked for them, for the sake of "being read as town"). If you ask him specific questions, I found that he answers pretty clearly. I'm just saying I'd be slow to apply the "shy / timid = mafia" heuristic on him. So I guess ... ask him some clear reads now and again if you want or something. I'm slight leaning town on Vivax for now, I'm sure he will slip up if scum later on, marv seems alright for the Vivax/HF town thing, and ritoky feels more confident and outspoken ala Cell Mini 2 and stuff. I feel ok about all these people but understand if you guys have slightly scummier reads on them. On that note, hypothetical cops, I would recommend Palmar's list. It's coolbeans. | ||
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On July 31 2014 01:33 Vivax wrote: Why do you ask me, you can simply read them and give your own opinion as to why rayn would call something out and then say he has the same opinion as me. Because Vivax, I've gathered that we have very different playstyles and I'm trying to understand where you are coming from. Additionally, I'm trying to be on the same page so that when you say "non-reasons", if you are referring to a specific post, or all his posts generally etc. No I don't think rayn is "attacking" you as you put it. He merely said that you are calling, who he thinks should be null, possible scum. It's a difference in interpretation in something I think is alignment null. | ||
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On July 31 2014 01:40 MysteryMeat1 wrote: @Ritoky, i was reading through the thread, and had you as either scum or a power role ^^ I would probably put JAT as someone who i would potentially blow up, when asked for a suggestion on who to blow up, he told you to just choose the lurker you hate the most. Theres 10 pages of thread responses, and instead of taking a guess at someone who he thinks is playing scummy, he goes with a play that imo is too safe. From my perspective its a mafia who is trying to get a mislynch on someone, without coming off as scummy. as for my second person to hit, i would choose someone from the lurkers ^^ huehuehue Could you please explain why this is scummy? | ||
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Unless you are extremely sure that HolyFlare is scum, your actions are really unconstructive to town atmosphere. If you want to duel him tomorrow 1 second in, sure go ahead, that's what this setup allows. Stop whining so much, people are less inclined to listen regardless of how solid your reasoning may be. Just collect data, make a big case and then post it with a duel 1 second into the day. I don't think what you are doing here is the most productive way of getting HolyFlare lynched, if that's what you want. | ||
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He berates sinani for making a non-post, and suggests bombing ritoky / Damdred / lurkers, when he is guilty of those things himself. ritoky, you want a good bomb? goodkarma is a good bomb. | ||
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I think Vivax is traitor. That's like the only way this makes sense to me. | ||
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I, deputy jail warden slOosh, hereby formally request a duel with goodkarma at high noon tomorrow, with your permission of course. | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:43 Vivax wrote: I'm interested into hearing how you think that I'm scum but not scum enough to be scum from the start, which would lead you to put on a tinfoil hat the size of a satellite receiver. I think that you are unreasonably uncooperative this game. This is my perception rather than an objective statement. I know that as scum you can play a "cleaner" game. So what looks scummy without being scum? Traitor, which the previous iteration of this setup had included. It's not that far of a stretch. Could you be an uncooperative town? Perhaps. It's just ... I guess I think more highly of your town play. | ||
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Because figuring out who mafia is is 50% of the game. Convincing everyone else is the other 50%, and right now I'm finding that you are severely lacking in the latter department. | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:50 goodkarma wrote: Look at any of my prior games and you should know my day 1 usually involves removing people that are most likely to be D1 liabilities. You should also know that I don't spam like crazy in games. Every post I make has a purpose, or I don't post it. I don't talk about jagers or any other random crap. I only post when I feel it'll be helpful. On top of that I don't have a scum read on any of the active players right now. So heaven forbid, that leaves who I've listed as the most likely scum candidates. Sinani specifically has been brought up. If he behaves this way all game, he's a huge liability and a good bomb target. But from what he's posted it looks like he'll only behave like this day one, and this is why I excluded him. To clarify you have a town read on Vivax, HolyFlare, rayn, me, Obi and JAT? | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:51 Vivax wrote: I'm not uncooperative, I push my reads aggressively, and they try to derail me into stupid arguments, and provoke me. I'm cooperative to everyone else, I asked normal questions to JAT before I townread him, I'm asking normal questions to GK, simply cause they won't react to my suspicion in a way that will only end up making our exchanges a pain to read, this being the reason I don't want to discuss with HF and rayn any more, but only display to the rest of the thread why they are scum, which I have done in multiple instances. Ok, I'll play the mediator then. Could you, for the sake of people who can't read as well or whatever, provide a concise summary of why you find HolyFlare and rayn to be scum? I'm looking for a couple of sentences and maybe a quote for each of them. | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:52 Holyflare wrote: Sloosh you town read me AND vivax before so what's really changed if we're just doing the same things? Basically, it feels like you are trying to disengage and Vivax won't. | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:53 justanothertownie wrote: I don't understand your logic. Why would he play differently as traitor than as normal mafia (apart from not knowing his buddies)? And I mean why would he play the way he does specifically. The logic proceeds thus: Vivax is playing in a way that I construe as strange, perhaps scummy. I played in a game (Storm 2) where he played scum, and he played more "normal". Vivax is playing strange, but has the capacity to play not-strange as scum. What could explain this discrepancy? The former setup of this game included a traitor. Perhaps Vivax is the traitor, which would explain the strange behavior. That's basically my thought process. I'm still talking to him because I could just be wrong, but that's my tentative read. | ||
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I am on board with the bomb yamato duel gk plan. Vivax are there people amongst the "lurkers" you feel are better chances to be mafia or probable towns that we maybe should avoid? | ||
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On July 31 2014 05:09 justanothertownie wrote: Meh, I think that's quite the stretch. Very well could be yes. My brain finds it easier to say Vivax is traitor than Vivax is scum / town. Anyways, I'm interested in doing this suspension thing where we move on for a day and see what we come up with elsewhere. | ||
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Yet you fault Damdred for doing the same. What differentiates you two? | ||
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On July 31 2014 08:12 kushm4sta wrote: he said he woudl duel you if a duel hadn't been started by the time he woke up, but that is pretty unlikely. I had palmar as a light townread, but what's concerning me is there is a lot of mafia motive behind killing marv like that. He's afk so it doesn't look too scummy, but he's also a huge potential threat if he ever starts playing. Mafia motive in dueling marv? As scum, I'd think town marv is by and large one of the people you would never want to duel no? I don't understand your reasoning for scumreading Palmar. | ||
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But like you said "he's also a huge potential threat if he ever starts playing". Is Palmar trying to get marv quicklynched before he can play? If not, how is what Palmar did scummy? | ||
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What I don't get is how you scum read Palmar because of his dueling marv. | ||
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I dunno, I liked his general attitude about it. And it forces marv to participate as either alignment, which is good for us, and it seems like if he finds marv town then he is ok with being lynched. I think at least Palmar is town. | ||
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Can we talk about ritoky bombs? Do people disagree with yamato / goodkarma? Is there someone else who is a better target? | ||
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I would like it if ritoky bombed him. Summary being: goodkarma is guilty of being apathetic. He doesn't really seem to care about the big issues of the thread and sounds very unconvinced by his own arguments. Check out Normal Mini IV, a relatively recent game. Despite having only 2 pages of filter, he was very involved in D1, and consequently shot N1. I don't think the meta picture he paints himself of being totally reserved D1 fits here. | ||
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On July 31 2014 15:27 kushm4sta wrote: um... worst metaing ever. "he was active d1 in this other game, therefore if he's not active d1 he is scum" no. He said he didn't have time and I believe him. I'm not critiquing him on the number of posts he has. I'm critiquing what he has done with those posts. In Normal IV, he didn't have that many posts, but the posts he had were very much related with the thread. In this game, the posts he made look lazy and disinterested. To parrot rayn On July 31 2014 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: even more his reads on bats/damdred are lazy and bad. Take for instance his most recent quote: Rather than comment on Palmar / marv, or maybe me and you for scumreading him, or pressing Damdred for reads, he is questioning batsnacks why he didn't duel as soon as day started. It just seems like he doesn't care about this game at all. That's my take. It would be good if people other than me and kush would talk about this though. | ||
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I hereby summon the marbalocitee ##Vote: marvellosity | ||
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Maybe ... roleblock ... I dunno. Anyhows by arbitrary methods I'm working with this kind of list: fuba MysteryMeat1 yamato77 Vivax (???) Who belongs in this list? Who doesn't belong? Discuss. | ||
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On August 01 2014 02:56 kushm4sta wrote: sloosh why no damdred/sinani on the list? I don't think vivax belongs there. He has just so much townie content. ~~~ also i really don't think this scumteam gives a fuck Damdred because I think goodkarma picked him as the easy target to go against (not saying he is confirmed town, just less likely to be scum). Sinani cause I'm trusting rayn a bit here. Not a strong town read, just a "lemme just watch him without poking him and lull him into false sense of security" thing. | ||
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Damdred has been here and playing the game and was present with the marv duel. He has never rolled scum before on TL mafia, yet there's nothing too awkward or different about his entry into the thread. He is somewhat active. I'm not saying you all should be town reading him. I am saying, maybe he isn't the best scum target as of now. I'd rather go after the people I mentioned before first, and then reevaluate Damdred after that initial sweep. | ||
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Functionally speaking it doesn't actually matter if ritoky bombed you or not. | ||
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Vivax, full claim. It's obvious you aren't vanilla. | ||
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All we need to know is that there is overlapping / missing KP. That's it. All else is post game chat. | ||
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Ok. I want you to duel someone. Your choice. | ||
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On August 02 2014 04:12 kushm4sta wrote: so sloosh you think im scum? have you read my filter I think probably both of you are town, but Damdred has more chance of being town. And I'm voting you because you wasted a duel like this. | ||
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On August 02 2014 04:15 kushm4sta wrote: im certain damdred is scum. Alright. Please highlight what things you find him scummy for, preferably with a couple of quotes and stuff. | ||
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Why would a bodyguard ever prot someone else? There is plenty reason. | ||
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For tomorrow I'd double lynch yamato and sinani. Or have Vivax duel someone. Both are good. Fuba looks better for at least participating here. | ||
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On August 02 2014 19:56 Palmar wrote: Kush-san must commit sudoku to keephis honor Plain and simple, kush you tried to go hero but it doesn't look good. You then spend the whole day trying to prove Damdred is scum, mostly because you just want to live. Perhaps you are indeed a more "useful" player to keep around, but the fact is that you are the cause of this TvT snoozefest and you are being held responsible. A plynch for you, sorry. Tomorrow, we get Vivax to duel Yamato. It is entirely unnecessary that Damdred sub in Vivax's place to prove his role. I guarantee regardless of his alignment that he most certainly does have that role, so there's no point wasting it, and thinking "he has role" = "he is town" is lazy (although in this case happens to be correct) thinking. Vivax, if you are so ... if rayn and HolyFlare, arguably both decent town, found problems with your play day 1, you are quite ... you should really reconsider what your day 1 actions looked like. If we lynch more scum and game keeps going, fine go ahead and duel me. But right now what you are doing is trying to escape responsibility. You duel yamato tomorrow. | ||
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On August 03 2014 00:39 yamato77 wrote: really kush? you dueled a blue? Anyhows if we don't duel yamato tomorrow, town deserves to lose. No one pull off any "trying to be hero", other than "I dueled yamato first". Kush, if you have any read list to give to us before you die, that would be appreciated. If not, I'd prefer to end this day cycle ASAP cause it's really boring. | ||
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On August 03 2014 03:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I duel Yamato tomorrow, though. Awesome. Please do it at the crack of dawn so no one else duels something funny. | ||
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On August 03 2014 07:23 Vivax wrote: Why did you bring up the traitor thingy up about me. HF and rayn just got the reaction that they had to expect when they posted. But specifically you were the first to mention it as a possibility, and your entrance was weird anyway, cause joke or not, it was something I had to pick up, and generally putting an rvs joke vote on the guy posting the most in the thread seems like a weird thing to do as a first post, unless you find it funny for some strange reason. On July 30 2014 11:19 slOosh wrote: My initial post was done as a simple read check / way to jumpstart discussion. I don't think the posts prior were doing much apart from being opener posts, so I went ahead and did it. On July 31 2014 04:47 slOosh wrote: I think that you are unreasonably uncooperative this game. This is my perception rather than an objective statement. I know that as scum you can play a "cleaner" game. So what looks scummy without being scum? Traitor, which the previous iteration of this setup had included. It's not that far of a stretch. Could you be an uncooperative town? Perhaps. It's just ... I guess I think more highly of your town play. It's all in my filter. If I said it once, the answer probably won't change when you ask a second time. I'll play this game more if yamato flips and game continues, but otherwise I'm gonna set it aside for a cycle. | ||
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##Duel: yamato77 | ||
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Vivax fuba batsnacks Damdred slOosh ObiWanShinobi Palmar Here be my lynch down list. Yes I'd lynch me before Obi / Palmar. | ||
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The one who lasts until the end earns the coveted (and now vacant) title of Duelmaster. | ||
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From Storm Mafia 2, scumQT: Vivax 07-16-2014 06:35 AM ET (US) This sudden attack of laziness is what fucks me in most of my scum games. His filter this game has 5 pages made before N0, and only 2 pages after. I made the same case in Storm 2. He is also the only person trying to put doubt on people's alignments. Also he didn't call Palmar town. Vivax should determine who he wants to duel at the crack of dawn. I give a deadline of 24 hours at which time I'll duel and kill him. | ||
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On August 05 2014 02:29 Vivax wrote: So good luck working your persuasion skills, I am allowed to be lazy cause this game is really hard to win. FTFY But seriously, feel free to duel sinani or fuba or me tomorrow. | ||
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Like, I'm gonna take a little wade into the "poor logic" lake and say this could be a scumslip On August 02 2014 04:24 fuba wrote: @Vivax: yes, that's what I was offering. But it doesn't really matter anymore. This actually makes it really unlikely that kush is scum, imo. If he's scum, then he just put himself up for lynch rather than have me (town) duel yamato (either MIA scumpartner or also town). I know that it wasn't decided to go with what I suggested yet, but it makes no sense for him to be scum when that option was on the table. But that's bad. So I'm gonna say, for someone who was so excited to play this game, you don't seem as excited to play the game anymore. On July 27 2014 03:25 fuba wrote: Come, WoS! Join us~ Joiiiiiiinnnn Ussssssss~ On July 27 2014 06:15 fuba wrote: WoS pleeeeeeeeeeease join :3 On July 28 2014 02:08 fuba wrote: yay! Only a few more :D On July 28 2014 03:50 fuba wrote: Wooo~ Now I just pray to the mafia gods that I don't roll scum ^^ Looks like someone *takes off sunglasses* just got rickrolled .... YEEAAAHHHHHHHH | ||
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Here's a really easy way to do this. Vivax, what is my scum meta? | ||
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Vivax has to be scum. I'm dueling him tomorrow, I don't care. He can't be this bad. | ||
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fuba still has a good chance of being scum. Not gonna impulse throw this game. | ||
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On August 06 2014 05:48 batsnacks wrote: Actually, I was going to suggest that you two duel each other... and then we just let you both go. As far as I'm concerned it's you or him. If it seriously is Palmar he deserves the win anyway. If fuba looked more town I'd have no reservations. | ||
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slOosh
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This setup can be played in reverse where you put (somewhat) the entire responsibility of the lynch into a person's hands and see what they do with it. It is the ultimate way of getting people to put their money where their mouth is, by putting their life at the stake. So this is fuba's chance to do so. His life against another's. Earlier in the game he offered himself to be lynched should his playstyle fail to improve. So by doing this, he either steps up his game and proves himself town, or the weight of the spotlight reveals that he is scum. It's like an analytical cop check. | ||
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fuba duel someone of your choice | ||
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slOosh
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Don't get yourselves modkilled ##Duel: fuba | ||
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On August 07 2014 06:32 batsnacks wrote: slOosh I wish you hadn't jumped the gun and dueled fuba like that. That was a mistake. I mean fuba making the choice himself was the entire point of your plan, plus then there wouldn't have been another modkill, even though you explicitly warned people not to modkill themselves. I understand, and perhaps in the ideal world I would have had the patience to wait for fuba to duel Vivax, and we could have ended a cycle earlier. The day would end with fuba end regardless so it isn't too bad. Also I'm tired of this game is also probably why I jumped the gun. Anyways, all we have to do is duel Vivax to win. Ezpz. | ||
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slOosh
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Since Vivax is surely convinced that I am scum, this plan should not be a problem to him. | ||
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slOosh
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The proper way to do it is to actually see that Vivax has done NOTHING this game, and has LURKED the whole time, and is suddenly making a LAST MINUTE attempt to get me lynched. The argument he is applying to me he also APPLYED TO PALMAR, but saw that when he wasn't getting lynched, he had to shoot him. Notice how he isn't actually using LOGIC or REASON, but FEARMONGERING and WIFOM. But hey, I'm gonna duel him either way. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YmQHbAo.png) Oh and if by last chance gambit I die, just kill Vivax. | ||
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Don't get modkilled. | ||
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On August 08 2014 06:44 Palmar wrote: Stop and rething? if Vivax is mafia, why did you not get shot? Never hammer instantly in lylo bro. Because if Vivax was mafia, I'm the only viable mislynch he could pull off? I did stop to rethink the possibility of Damdred mafia. I think his role was true regardless of alignment and in the end I found Vivax's complaints and lack of direction more scummy than Damdred being so. Yes I pulled the trigger as soon as dawn happened, but like the entirety of the game's reads could have been formed a full 2 cycles prior. If the first 108 hours or whatever aren't gonna do it, hows an extra 48 gonna help? | ||
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Thank you to HiroPro, Koshi and HaruRH for hosting the game. I think it's a fun setup. | ||
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Tbh towards the end I was just getting pissed off that people weren't playing so I just wanted to get the game over with. | ||
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