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Chopin Étude Op. 10, No. 7 (Toccata)
I love chopin , I wasn't entirely familiar with him until a friend bought me a game (Eternal Sonata) where I was introduced to some of his music since then I have devoured his works almost hypnotizing to me
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lol auto delurk from everyone!
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##Vote Chopin Liszt
I'll be an asshole in this situation
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On July 23 2014 01:58 Chopin Liszt wrote:
##Vote: Chopin Liszt
I am also willing to be an asshole.
to bad he didn't post in his normal way here </3
I guess can't let a martyr live anyway lol
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You sir are the king of randomness sometimes, reasons may i have them?
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Eh, and I really don't like you unvoting and voting me without any reasons posted your better than that obi.
However it was his only post that wasn't in his normal way of talking which would of been more epic since chopin was mad at times.
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On July 23 2014 02:30 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 01:57 Damdred wrote:
##Vote Chopin Liszt
I'll be an asshole in this situation Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 02:22 Damdred wrote:
You sir are the king of randomness sometimes, reasons may i have them? seems kind of contradictory doesn't it damdred? u didn't have reasons behind your vote on chopin so why would obi have reasons for his vote on you?
True enough, I asked for his reasons Chopin didn't ask for our reasons which at this point is just a plynch. But Obi does have a history of random voting the first day well when i've played with him.
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On July 23 2014 08:29 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 07:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Particular focus to what he said about kush " I think he's quite a good scum player so I'd rather see until later to judge him".
He is a good player as scum, so, let him live, guys. I don't get this logic.
While saying that a lot of people needs time because he can't judge now, suddenly, damdred can be lynched because of his gut feelings. Contradictory.
I don't get why you don't like the logic in the first post. What would you do, automatically scumread me? the second point is a misrepresentation. xatalos' read on damdred seems no where near strong enough that he wants to lynch him. he was identifying some gut feelings, which we all have. so what's wrong with that?
Its all well and good to have gut feelings and we all should act on them. However he does seem to vote for my lynch before i have returned his not strong read led to a vote?
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Heres my thoughts about Xatalos right now, hes just seems a bit odd to me right now.
On July 23 2014 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote raynpelikoneet
Sigh
Enters thread with an odd opening no sign of real communication.
On July 23 2014 05:55 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 05:34 Vivax wrote:On July 23 2014 03:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, I'll join the random lynch thing.
I just saw Christ the Redeemer far away, and it looks like a T.
Therefore:
##Vote: Teemursu
Die. On July 23 2014 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote raynpelikoneet
Sigh Gut wise I don't like these entrances. I can see what you're getting at with that comment. Both of these posts are kind of apathetic. In any case, it's not much to work with. I'm town anyways and GB could be just playing around a bit.
Follows it up by defending himself and glowing, she might be town but he definitely is cool.
On July 23 2014 06:16 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 06:10 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 23 2014 06:09 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 06:06 Chairman Ray wrote:The exchange between Xatalos and Koshi is the most awkward and forced conversation I have ever seen, especially this: On July 23 2014 05:41 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos it has been a while. I am town this game. You must be so happy. Hmm. I think I want you to live longer than D1 just for the "Mafia totes alive guis" mass PM. That, and my history of reading you is horrible. I have the vague idea that someone explained your meta to me in a recent game so I'll search for that. If we had two lynches, I'd lynch them both. ##Vote: Xatalos I don't think it's a good idea to lynch either of us for D1. Generally speaking. What does this mean? Koshi can look scummy during D1 as town so it's not usually a good time to lynch him. I'm generally active regardless of my alignment, and I become a (somewhat) valuable asset throughout the game as town and I tend to reveal myself more easily later on as scum (+leaving material to work with). Neither of us are ideal D1 lynches.
But if someone looks and feels scummy and plays great scum in your mind why would you want to keep them around? Isn't it better if you honest think they are scum to take them out fast and not risk them swaying people against you? Bit weird talking about yourself their as well, I know you think yourself an asset but why even include the thing about the scum their?
On July 23 2014 06:41 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 06:38 Chairman Ray wrote:On July 23 2014 06:26 Koshi wrote:
I think you are out of your mind if you think we had the most awkward conversation ever. I said "how happy are you I am town". How am I here being awkward?
Xatalos his answer might have been odd. But how can you say that even I am scummy? What kind of insane connection is that CR? Why isn't Xatalos scummy that can't reply to my awesome trick question???
Hmmmm? Your side of the conversation was fine, but that's to be expected of you whether you are scum or not. Xatalos was not fine. He pocketed you for the weirdest reason at the weirdest time. I'm leaning towards scum pocketing scum rather than scum pocketing town. As a sidenote, I'm extremely careful not to connect myself with my teammates as scum. You can see me bussing / semi-bussing / distancing my teammates in pretty much every game. I would never fake a friendly conversation with my teammate as scum, at least right away.
This feels weird to trying to paint yourself as town by saying that you play scum one way and town another....whos to say that you don't change it up from time to time to make yourself look town?
Overall I get a really odd vibe from Xatalos posts, and as others have posted he has singled out a couple of low fruit even though it hurts my pride. I'd like him to answer some before I change votes.
On July 23 2014 10:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
^scum
Also why Haru has seemed to be scum hunting in his posts so far.
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On July 23 2014 11:40 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 11:35 HaruRH wrote:On July 23 2014 11:27 Chairman Ray wrote:On July 23 2014 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:On July 23 2014 09:57 kushm4sta wrote:On July 23 2014 08:55 GlowingBear wrote:On July 23 2014 08:29 kushm4sta wrote:On July 23 2014 07:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Particular focus to what he said about kush " I think he's quite a good scum player so I'd rather see until later to judge him".
He is a good player as scum, so, let him live, guys. I don't get this logic.
While saying that a lot of people needs time because he can't judge now, suddenly, damdred can be lynched because of his gut feelings. Contradictory.
I don't get why you don't like the logic in the first post. What would you do, automatically scumread me? the second point is a misrepresentation. xatalos' read on damdred seems no where near strong enough that he wants to lynch him. he was identifying some gut feelings, which we all have. so what's wrong with that? If I start arguing that someone is a good scum player, it means that it's almost impossible to read the guy at any point of the game. So, the consequence would be automatically lynching that guy day1, yes, and not wait to judge. Have in mind I would never suggest this. I'm just saying that the cause-consequence he brought there isn't natural IMO. No problem in have gut feelings. The problem here is that he gives free passes for people he is not sure but got scum vibes from damdred. The way he stand regarding everyone else is completely incompatible with the gut feeling he gets from damdred. hi again! are you a girl? if yes, want to be my egirlfriend, if you are over 18? we can go on edates. we both share the interest of forum mafia so I think we probably have a lot in common. first paragraph u say it's best to automatically lynch everyone you think is good scum. Should xatalos have said "he's good scum SO LET"S LYNCH HIM!" and that would have been townie? second paragraph you are essentially arguing that since he has scum feels for damdred, he should have feels for every person in the game. Why does getting feels about 1 person mean tha the should have feels on everybody? Hi! I'm male but I'd love to play the girlfriend role. Buy me stuff and maybe you'll get laid )) It's difficult for me to be clear, I realise I have some problems with it (particularly while talking in english), I'll be objective but if it's still unclear please tell me and I'll try to clarify it again. I don't say that it's best to automatically lynch everyone who I think is good scum. I actually say that, if anyone starts a phrase with "I think he's quite a good scum player", in a mafia game, I believe that the most unnatural conclusion will be "I'll have to wait to judge him". I believe that a townie will mostly pressure the good player so he can get a better analysis. Therefore, if at early day1 I start saying that someone is a good scum player, I will automatically vote for him, because (i) I can get more information from him and (ii) it's better to lynch a good scum player than a bad scum player, although this last argument is secondary and less optimal. Not what I'm saying in the last paragraph, also. I'm saying that if he has gut feelings, I'm almost sure damdred is not the only one. There are more mafias in the game. He shouldn't consider every other player scum, but why he is considering only damdred and noone else? He used a passive stance. He would say "I never played a game with this guy before" or "I need more time to read this one". Why picking damdred only? He doesn't get scum vibes from ANY other player? Do you understand what I mean? The feeling I got from his post was "I'll be as neutral as I can with every other player so I won't be the centre of attention and so people won't OMGUS me, but I'll pick someone to start a wagon and maybe get a mislynch. But I won't do that too hard, or people will turn against me day2. Maybe saying that I have gut feelings will lead someone to build a strong case against this townie". I write too much. Another issue I have with this damdred gut read is that it doesn't fit with his no-lynch reads. He put a bunch of people on a no-lynch list because those people don't give a strong indication of alignment on day 1. This means that he's looking for really strong scumreads. However, he's scumreading damdred for hardly anything. Doesn't make a lot of sense. The only issue I have with xatalos is how he is not putting any effort into trying to scumhunt, but decides to post a liszt post (hue) anyway. He blanket reads us who he never played before as 'not lynching/can lynch', which means nothing since this is everyone. However, his reads on damdred and va reeks of 'no effort', which is usually an indicator of scum trying to blend into town and yet post stuff. wtf do you expect a few hours into the game?
Kush do you think his vote on me is justified at that point in the game and how he was talking and playing?
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On July 23 2014 12:47 kushm4sta wrote:
fuck no voting thread.. now i can't ninja vote
##vote harurh
Kush whatcha doing this for? You seem to be playing a bit more defensive this game and ignored some questions.
so why vote harurh now?
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Didn't mean to post what had been posted already phone slow
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On July 23 2014 13:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote haruH
What in the actual world are you doing?
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On July 24 2014 00:47 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit. I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare. no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases. damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer. Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck. Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck. Teemu called you scummy for who knows why. Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up. I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all. Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group.
Ok my post is useless, atleast respond to it and say that and answer some questions that I posed instead of totally ignoring it since you got back.
And I really haven't had a chance to follow it up so far today thats why i'm posting now
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On July 24 2014 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who did Xatalos say were his scumreads at the time of listpost?
Myself and vayne I believe then he voted me before i came back then he dissapeared
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Teemursu do you think obi is more town or do you think hes more mafia? Which lean are you taking right now?
Also your post is not to good its never good to lynch into someone you aren't sure of, its not pro town to lynch a townie
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On July 24 2014 05:15 Teemursu wrote:
Ok, to clarify.
I think Obi is mafia
I think VA is mafia.
Will you explain a bit why you feel both are mafia at this point? Or maybe just Obi since VA really hasn't done much at this point
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On July 24 2014 05:22 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 05:14 Damdred wrote:
Teemursu do you think obi is more town or do you think hes more mafia? Which lean are you taking right now?
Also your post is not to good its never good to lynch into someone you aren't sure of, its not pro town to lynch a townie Why are you pushing this and what are you trying to get out of this? What you just said was mechanics fluff that is obvious to everyone. Why don't you instead divert your focus to the actual content that I've posted?
Whats so wrong with me asking questions about why you think someone is mafia or your leaning on someone? And then you get defensive about it? I will look into your content when I get to a computer, but I would like an answer or at least a glimpse into your thoughts
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On July 24 2014 05:30 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 05:24 Damdred wrote:On July 24 2014 05:22 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 05:14 Damdred wrote:
Teemursu do you think obi is more town or do you think hes more mafia? Which lean are you taking right now?
Also your post is not to good its never good to lynch into someone you aren't sure of, its not pro town to lynch a townie Why are you pushing this and what are you trying to get out of this? What you just said was mechanics fluff that is obvious to everyone. Why don't you instead divert your focus to the actual content that I've posted? Whats so wrong with me asking questions about why you think someone is mafia or your leaning on someone? And then you get defensive about it? I will look into your content when I get to a computer, but I would like an answer or at least a glimpse into your thoughts I was addressing the second half of your post.
Ok then address the first half and the followup question of why you think that they are mafia at this point
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