Team Melee Mini Mafia V: Newbies and Vets

On July 10 2014 03:24 mtamburini wrote:
/in

On July 10 2014 04:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'll take 27nb as junior to restore her self-esteem slowly.

On July 10 2014 04:47 Palmar wrote:


Heh! nice one.

On July 10 2014 05:18 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I would say I'm worse than all of the junior players.
I should be moved to junior.

On July 10 2014 05:32 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I kind of want to be paired with slam.

On July 10 2014 15:19 Alakaslam wrote:

Dude where did you find that gif of IamPerfection & I

On July 10 2014 15:25 Alakaslam wrote:
But see that gif is BH & IamPerfection

See I am an imposter

On July 11 2014 01:02 IAmRobik wrote:

This should not be allowed. It's would just be incessant flirting in their QT with 0 discussion of mafia

On July 11 2014 03:17 IAmRobik wrote:

Team SouthernBaptistRacists

On July 11 2014 03:30 kitaman27 wrote:


You are until you submit a different one!



I saw that pre-edit! I'm watching you...

On July 11 2014 03:47 IAmRobik wrote:
Kita, for the record, not telling you how to mod or anything, but he hasn't been handed down his sentence yet. It seems unjust to prematurely restrict him from the game. But your call and all that.

On July 11 2014 03:48 GlowingBear wrote:


Please choose one:
SayNoToRape#Brazil
TeamRickAstley
Haru<3JustinBieber
BeachPenguins
AngryBusinessmen
WeDemandALawyer
TeamOBJECTION
ScumsNextDoor

Edit:
TheSopranos
TeamRobertDeNiro

On July 11 2014 03:55 GlowingBear wrote:


Lol awesome! So we are going to be WeDemandALawyer

On July 11 2014 05:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is nothing to appeal to though...

On July 11 2014 06:34 Tehpoofter wrote:
We might have to use the name "Team the D" A slight variation of Tica/Tica's naming.

Also I'm not listed in the players just in the group.

On July 11 2014 06:49 Tehpoofter wrote:


TeamBunniesIsLame?

Or Team G.O.A.T/W.O.A.T are my two choices.

On July 11 2014 07:03 Tehpoofter wrote:


Fine you come up with a name.

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 11 2014 07:07 marvellosity wrote:
better than the name i suggested.

On July 11 2014 07:10 marvellosity wrote:
hahaha. Brilliant. Go team bunnies :>

On July 11 2014 08:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Not even a Double D?
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 11 2014 08:48 IAmRobik wrote:

You're about to get n0'd bitch

On July 11 2014 09:36 TicaTica wrote:
I only joke in pregame.

On July 11 2014 11:03 Tehpoofter wrote:


scummy.

On July 11 2014 11:05 Tehpoofter wrote:


Just distancing play it cool.

On July 11 2014 11:05 Tehpoofter wrote:


The mafia team thanks you for making role hunting easier.

On July 11 2014 11:08 Eden1892 wrote:

it would be a great honor

On July 11 2014 11:13 OnceKing wrote:

mad
its your job to convince people not to lynch you anyway
as long as you do your job should be np

On July 11 2014 11:27 Eden1892 wrote:
Slam how do you know Kenpachi has failed us?

How.

Let us observe these chupazi scum TheD

##VOTE TheD

- Poofter thanks me on behalf of the mafia team for helping them bluehunt. What townie does this? None! Townies fear svengali encroaching on their shining beacons of blue sky goodness
- Bunnies overreact in response, townie? No! She rather vote off the confirmed green beacon than sort out her teammate's innocence, because her teammate is not innocent! ¡Hijole!

On July 11 2014 11:35 Eden1892 wrote:

i'm allowed to do that because i'm confirmed town

On July 11 2014 11:40 OnceKing wrote:
oh
yes
my bad
i meant eden

cause ya understand the way i see it the only way you'd know his vt claim is helping the mafia power role hunt is if... you think his claim is legit and had a reason to believe he was town like two minutes into the game

On July 11 2014 11:41 IAmRobik wrote:

Cause the point of having vets is to walk juniors through the game. ExO is town...he doesn't have to lie about any of his reads so he can give them without my input and he can just own mafia on his own

On July 11 2014 11:43 Eden1892 wrote:
what is the kenpachi rule

On July 11 2014 11:45 OnceKing wrote:

but... he wasnt using the kenpachi rule two minutes into the game... he only used it once someone ACTIVATED HIS TRAP CARD

so i dont see the point of your question at all
of course eden could be mafia or town but that doesnt address the point which is that poof was awfully accepting of the claim so early

On July 11 2014 11:49 IAmRobik wrote:

Didn't read it. Don't care. ExO will be doing the majority of the posting and making the majority of the reads. I have no alternative agenda to push so I'll do whatever the fuck I wanna do. And what I wanna do is let ExO handle that shit.

On July 11 2014 11:50 OnceKing wrote:
not necessarily. i mean it's certainly a necessary condition to kenpachi rule somebody but just because someone claims vt doesn't mean they're going to use the kenpachi rule

you seem to be interpreting the rule as some sort of baseless accusation when in fact it's actually a read or heuristic for specific reasons

On July 11 2014 11:58 Eden1892 wrote:
is D short for Dumb Shit That Doesn't Matter

because Team TheD isn't talking about anything else right now

On July 11 2014 12:04 Eden1892 wrote:

it is, i use it all the time

very high salt content though, much like your post

On July 11 2014 12:28 Eden1892 wrote:

what was the purpose of this question? i waited until robik answered and i notice no follow-up nor any town-origin direction i can perceive

On July 11 2014 12:30 IAmRobik wrote:

it prolly would have been better than this but
+ Show Spoiler +
No fucking clue though

On July 11 2014 12:34 Eden1892 wrote:

and yet you call out robik for not posting anything helpful...


what would his possible response(s) have indicated to you about his alignment?

On July 11 2014 12:32 sinani206 wrote:

"Come up with"?
Clearly it's not going to be genuine. I really don't see the point.
FRU

On July 11 2014 12:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Kenpachi rule doesn't sound as a winning plan to me. You may use it as a secondary argument but to get to the point you have a primary one there is so much game to be played. I think that if we keep discussing this topic it will just a waste of breath.
Why do I think it's secondary: a scum can fake claim vt just so he can get townie to accuse him and get mislynched. More than that, a vt can simply try to pressure someone who claimed vt. Why not?

-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and Glowingbear

On July 11 2014 12:41 Eden1892 wrote:

so looking at these reasons:

#1: doesn't help us in this game
#2: what does it mean if they're the same?
#3: what might comparing the two posts have revealed about his alignment?

my issue here is that you're right, robik doesn't type just to type. you recognize doing so as dumb play (by extension of saying robik isn't a dumb player because he doesn't do this). yet to me this question looks exactly like typing just to type. i don't see where it's going, and you've just explained yourself that this isn't a good thing to do.

ninjibuni wat r u doin???

On July 11 2014 12:43 Eden1892 wrote:



wow ok count 'em up there's #2 we goin to da top town

On July 11 2014 12:46 OnceKing wrote:
bunnies none of that makes sense
it's not as if a mafia robik would tell you anyway and i don't see how any of that helps you know anything about his alignment here

On July 11 2014 12:51 OnceKing wrote:
i just remembered that you, eden and myself are all from louisiana
would you like to explain to me very slowly what you're thinking then?

On July 11 2014 13:00 OnceKing wrote:
i agree robik is being useless
i also think we should evaluate each person individually independent of who their other half is.

the thing is, i don't see how ANY response could have been indicative of any alignment bunnies. because if he's town then he's telling the truth and if he's mafia he can just make anything up and it remains consistent, so the question still doesn't lead to anything meaningful.

for example, what opening post would make him mafia? what about town?
and why would you ask him such a question for which the response says basically nothing about his alignment?

On July 11 2014 13:01 OnceKing wrote:
yep eden and i are at LSU
also i keep forgetting to sign my posts fuk

- FRU

On July 11 2014 14:31 OnceKing wrote:

Fun question
What merits casting more than suspicion then
And who is your suspicion cast upon

On July 11 2014 14:41 OnceKing wrote:
D u d e t t e did you just wrote me and ask the exact same questions as me

On July 11 2014 14:50 Eden1892 wrote:
bunnies why did I need to remind you to follow up on those questions? I can't help but get the feeling that you're asking questions just to ask them, almost.

On July 11 2014 14:57 OnceKing wrote:
So based on what he's said thus far what think you of robik

On July 11 2014 14:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
/confirm


Worst post in thread.


The bolded is also pretty terrible.

On July 11 2014 15:13 Eden1892 wrote:
if rayn just only calls posts from town dumb then it looks really bad so he wouldnt only call posts from town dumb as scum, sooo he is scum for calling posts from town dumb

On July 11 2014 15:29 Eden1892 wrote:

hi i am new to tl mafia

you and palmar are not on the same team -- why would he be able to explain this when he hasn't even checked into the thread yet? is this some meta comment i'm missing

On July 11 2014 16:08 IAmRobik wrote:
Can't believe I can't lynch Rayn this game cause it'd be against my win-con

On July 11 2014 16:20 IAmRobik wrote:

oh bunnies. you and banks being scum makes this game laughable.

Clearly the point of it was to say that I have a townread on him

On July 11 2014 16:32 IAmRobik wrote:
Cause I am god-tier at reading Rayn. And on that note I'm going to bed

On July 11 2014 23:30 HaruRH wrote:
And calls everything I post irrelevant

hurts my pride

On July 11 2014 17:51 ExO_ wrote:
*plain old Vanilla town

On July 11 2014 19:33 Eden1892 wrote:

the last time I had a grilled cheese sandwich for dinner I got laid by a hot Russian chick later that night

On July 11 2014 19:42 marvellosity wrote:
Btw my general strat for this game while mderg plays like a proper mafia player:

Figure out Robik/Poof/Palmar/rayn on the basis that they'll play properly to some extent (as in, not that no-one else plays properly, i mean if they make an effort)

If I find mafia in there, woohoo! If not, it narrows the pool considerably.

-M&M

On July 11 2014 20:57 Palmar wrote:
popquiz time: is Eden mafia?

On July 11 2014 21:15 Stratiform wrote:

When there is some more info than in the first few hours of the game.
If I have reason to accuse someone, I'll say it when it happens.

On July 11 2014 23:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Everyone bitching about me not talking and now no one wants to interact with me

On July 11 2014 23:46 IAmRobik wrote:

Sorry. I didn't clarify. I wanted townies to talk to me...not mafia

On July 11 2014 23:45 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm 100% on Rayn being town. I'll never change that opinion allllll fucking game. It's based off of one of his first posts. If anyone wants reference on my early game reads of Rayn you can look at any of the games we've played together. My early d1 reads on him are godlike.

My biggest FOS is banks/bunnies. In Order, my opinions and Mocsta's opinions differed on who we wanted to push all game and this made it hard for us to be read. Bunnies wants to push me while Banks wants to call me town. This dichotomy is very familiar to me because of that game, and I feel like they are in the same boat.

On July 11 2014 23:56 IAmRobik wrote:

I was mafia that game. My opinions were different than my partners.
Your opinions are different than banks' this game. You are mafia.

The logical progression is astoundingly good

On July 12 2014 00:05 IAmRobik wrote:

.

On July 12 2014 00:07 IAmRobik wrote:
What? Do you know what the words mean that you are saying?

On July 12 2014 00:13 IAmRobik wrote:
You said "that doesn't warrant a town read"
I said that YOUR PARTNER gave me a town read.
I never asked you to town read me.
Like, what are you even saying? I can't follow any logical thought

On July 12 2014 00:28 OnceKing wrote:

So I go to sleep
and I wake up
and this question still isn't answered... Stratiform pls

--

Robik can you tell me what bunnies/poof have done that's scummy other than "they disagree with each other"? Alternately can you explain why disagreeing with your teammate is alignment indicative?

On July 12 2014 00:32 IAmRobik wrote:

I don't know. The only thing that really bothers me strongly is that they have differing reads based off of my previous experience with playing as a hydra and the two heads expressing differing reads -- it also happened in my first game with rayn and mocsta expressing different reads. So both hydras that I've played with that were mafia had different reads. The one hydra that I played with that had the same reads (mattisfoolish) had the same reads.

it also MINORLY bothers me that bunnies is trying to push scum on me because I'm town, so that's pushing an anti-town agenda

On July 12 2014 01:02 IAmRobik wrote:

Did you even read the post. He said he wasn't sure on them and that he reads them wrong. I actually alos thought Haru was scummy to begin the game. The only reason I have a town read was because of the last post that glowingbear made!

our reads are not different!!!

On July 12 2014 00:21 IAmRobik wrote:
I never want to lynch glowingbear

On July 12 2014 00:38 IAmRobik wrote:
Based God harurh.
I am never voting you this game
Your teammate said something super towny
we should forge an alliance
you should recruit rayn/slendy for it since they're town too.
Then we just need to find 1 more team and we've pretty much got ourselves a lock.

On July 12 2014 01:10 IAmRobik wrote:

I never claimed to have said it. I claim that I was thinking it. You can't say I was lying about thinking it.

On July 12 2014 01:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Marv and bunnies did not read the post clearly enough, and I can confirm 100000% that I did not like haru's reads to start the game. FACT!

On July 12 2014 01:14 marvellosity wrote:

I told mderg he would be entirely to blame if my massive unlynched streak ended.

He pointed out I was the senior and it was probably my job to make sure we didn't get lynched.

I conceded.

On July 12 2014 01:14 IAmRobik wrote:

I confirmed it previously. I was really really feeling scummy on Haru for his earlier posts. I think that glowingbears post was really towny, and I was unwilling to vote haru d1, but if that's what ExO wants to do, I'll follow him to the motha fuckin promised land

On July 12 2014 01:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Marv and bunnies did not read the post clearly enough, and I can confirm 100000% that I did not like haru's reads to start the game. FACT!

On July 12 2014 01:18 IAmRobik wrote:

That's confirming that I thought Haru was scummy. I just said, I didn't write earlier in the game "oh man, haru is scummy" I just thought it. Then I saw glowingbear's post and changed my mind on that team as a whole. Haru being based god...well that's just a fact that extends to the beginning of time, not just this game.

On July 12 2014 01:27 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Tehpoofter hasn't done much. No read on him.
Bunnies, however, has talked alot. A lot lot.
Bunnies isn't as helpful as in other games, to the best of my memory. She's not questioning anything, not pushing people, I don't like it.
But I don't think we should lynch them because you usually don't lynch the most outspoken player, even if they're not posting all that useful stuff.

Bunnies, any particular reason for not scumhunting?

On July 12 2014 02:19 IAmRobik wrote:
My teammate is watching TI instead of playing the game. I try to push him to do more, but I don't think he can get over the hump of "fuck day 1"

On July 12 2014 02:22 ExO_ wrote:


My God I don't have to dedicate 100% of my time to mafia, I can do other things ya know. Jeez you and robik need to get off my case, I don't want to miss dota!

On July 12 2014 02:24 IAmRobik wrote:
bunnies, you're going to get yourself lynched real fucking quick with this attitude. Get adjusted or get deaded.

On July 12 2014 02:28 IAmRobik wrote:
Well I'm town, so that immediately takes me off the table as a lynch FOREVER.
So if you keep pushing it, I assure you that you will end up lynched over me

On July 12 2014 04:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:

Why are you viewing robik as town?

Also, what do you think of ExOs reads?

If I'm not mistaken you said you didn't like them, and said they seemed fabricated.

On July 12 2014 04:49 sqrtofneg1 wrote:

Robik is crazy. He might be town.

And yep.

On July 12 2014 04:54 sqrtofneg1 wrote:

Exo gave reads. On D1. Impressive, no?

On July 12 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:

I forget who said this earlier -- I think it was bunnies -- but it was super scummy in the fashion she went about it. She pretty much said she was happy about the fact that ExO gave reads on d1 and then scumread him in the same post for it.

On July 12 2014 01:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
ExO. Good job. I'm quite impressed with your post for your not usual day 1 play.

Kinda rude on me though, don't you think?

His post on my team basically is "Oh Ninja bunnies is terrible player and is not doing anything to help the town this game"

Of course I'm biased, but I beg to differ. Are you actually reading any of my posts and questioning.

As for banks, he'll show up in about 3-4 hours when he heads off to work.

Also, Robik, you and ExO seem to disagree on some things. By your logic, that makes you mafia.

On July 12 2014 05:01 IAmRobik wrote:

So after arguing me that that's not a valid reason to vote someone, you ended up voting me and exo for "that invalid reason that you do not believe in"..and now you're still holding strong to the claim that we're mafia, based off of that reason + other reasons that you are fabricating. I just wanted to make sure I got that all right. This + Banks' absence from the thread (in before bunnies claims that he's sleeping and he wouldn't be active anyway because he's only active at work) makes me really really happy with my vote right now.

On July 12 2014 05:10 IAmRobik wrote:

He's off today

On July 12 2014 06:52 OnceKing wrote:

You know bunnies I can't help but notice that your vote isn't actually on them...

On July 12 2014 07:36 OnceKing wrote:

You said that you're voting for Cabernet Sauvignon. You are not right now because you didn't do it in the voting thread.

On July 12 2014 07:38 OnceKing wrote:
we... we always had a voting thread...

On July 12 2014 07:39 Chairman Ray wrote:
Kay I'm going to work now.

If ninjabunnies accumulates another 8 pages of filter while I'm gone, I'd totes lynch her too. Ain't nobody got time for that.

On July 12 2014 08:55 Koshi wrote:

Yeah marv going to be scum. But let"s not tell him yet.

On July 12 2014 09:02 Koshi wrote:

Pls woman allow me to sleep it is 2 am. Also I dont know if marv is scum but good people will be.

On July 12 2014 09:05 Koshi wrote:

I already pressed that x ages ago.

On July 12 2014 10:33 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, 30 minutes till we die.
I'm not sure, but I wouldn't have Robik+ExO as a top town team.
Keep an eye on OK and Eden.

On July 12 2014 10:33 Eden1892 wrote:
Sir, I'm a middle-class workin man from the Deep South. I ain't worried about hoity-toity high-falutin' strange speak, I'm worried about results and with due respect, you ain't deliverin'

On July 12 2014 10:38 sqrtofneg1 wrote:

Oh.
Why did slam concede then?

I feel like an idiot.
I will try to escape the noose tomorrow. Sleep for me now.

On July 12 2014 10:41 OnceKing wrote:
bunnies do you think a koshi/cr + palmar/strat scumteam makes much sense
i don't

On July 12 2014 06:30 Koshi wrote:
Hi Koshi.
So awesome for you to join us.
I really love you and I think you are the best!

On July 12 2014 06:30 Koshi wrote:
So rayn how town are you?

On July 12 2014 08:33 Koshi wrote:
K I have read everything. My head is superheavy atm.
There is like no direction in this thread. Everything is a blur.

But because I am totally awesome I got this for you all:

Eden seems town.
ExO_ seems town.

If I really have to call somebody scum I would go for Stratiform. My junior is pretty good. I am obviously new senior.

Anyhoezels I need sleep.

On June 18 2014 05:51 Koshi wrote:
Artanis I am totes town. We should be bffs.
Also did you scumslip in your first post?

On June 18 2014 06:00 Koshi wrote:

4 times I replaced, 4 times town.

Anyhoezels. I am on page 5.

On June 18 2014 06:15 Koshi wrote:
Well. I read everything. I got nothing.
I didn't read big posts though. skimmed them.

On July 12 2014 06:10 Chairman Ray wrote:


You dabbed through a few people's filters and posted the first thing that came to mind.

##vote: Team Magic Computer

On July 13 2014 04:39 Koshi wrote:
How would town Kosji enter the yhread bunnies? Why are you ignoring the other possibility in your meta case? I replaced 4 times as town. Go compare.

On July 13 2014 04:19 OnceKing wrote:
bunnies, do you think slamroot is a mislynch?
i'm not discounting other wagons but you'll need to do a lot of work to show me why you think chairman koshi is a better lynch than slamroot. I got some pretty heavy townie vibes from CR before.

On July 13 2014 05:22 OnceKing wrote:

tbh i think its impossible for anyone to defend slamroot at this point. if you look at the way they're posting there's no way it can come from a town pov. I don't think him getting mad is indicative of anything -- if I'm about to get lynched I'll be mad about it regardless of my alignment.

imo it's not a matter of wanting them to get lynched, it's the fact that they can't stop it.

i could be wrong but i highly doubt it.

I got a town read off of CR's entrance into the game. the first thing he did upon getting into the game was to antagonize someone.
... I dunno it's hard for me to explain. I guess I'll have to take a closer look, it's just that for the brief period of time I followed Order immediately upon reading CR's posts I was just like well im not reading this shit he's typing enormous blocks of text. And I haven't gotten the same feeling from him this game.

On July 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:

Meh. no matter my alignment, I kinda hate voting and I hate being pressured into voting. I vote when I feel it's necessary to vote. I'm not like rallying people to a cause right now. I think people realize that slam/sqrt are mafia and everyone will be voting for them by the end of the day. Just to make mafia work for it, I'll say that mafia will end up on slam too (so if someone doesn't vote sqrt/slam by the end of the day, I'll think they're town------or will I?)

And that's where I'm at. I've caught up. Got some studying to do. Won't be too active.

ExO thinks that haru/bear are still suspicious.
He also thinks slam/sqrt are scummy
He also thinks that if Sqrt/slam aren't mafia, then OK is mafia -- a read I can get behind.

On July 13 2014 05:47 IAmRobik wrote:
I cannot understand your sentence because of its atrocious grammar. Please try again.

On July 13 2014 05:53 IAmRobik wrote:
Cause Haru is wise beyond words.
I'm voting you because:
1) you're trying to push scum on me incorrectly
2) banks isn't doing dick this game, and that's his scum meta

The reason to not vote you is that the point on Koshi/CR is kinda interesting and is what I was thinking...especially the koshi entrance. I thought that the CR one wasn't so bad, but it wasn't great either. He was really try-hard mafia in Order, but he was lackluster mafia in the small BH game. I'm gonna revisit that game and see how he entered/played

On July 13 2014 06:49 Eden1892 wrote:
ok with slenderman's superb vote switch the count is 5-2-1-1-1

the 2 wagon is fucking obvtown bunnies crew and has one person on it who's said he expects to end on the lead wagon so it's not even a counterwagon

great job team, if you're not on the slamroot wagon please explain why not

On July 13 2014 06:53 IAmRobik wrote:

You think bunnies is "fucking obvtown"?!?!? Oh jeez.

On July 13 2014 06:59 OnceKing wrote:
frankly i don't buy either the defense of slam or the case on chairman koshi
bunnies did you do as koshi asked and examine the games in which he's town and replaced in?

On July 13 2014 06:59 TheSlenderMan wrote:
bunnies, where did you 'explain why slamroot is Town'? As for the CR/Koshi-case, no way I see a meta-case being stronger than slamroot's antics at this point. :D

Haru please (also) explain the questions I raised in my posts -- you can find them from my filter quite easily.

On July 13 2014 07:08 Eden1892 wrote:

ok but here's the thing.

1. slam giving up only helps him as mafia. i don't think slam would normally just give up as either alignment so we have to toss a meta read here, it doesn't fit his persona regardless. people have quoted him not giving up as town in other games. so the meta read is murky and i think it only makes sense to look at whose agenda it advances

2. sqrt was specifically asked and pointedly, repeatedly refused to elaborate, so it's more than just "oh well he never evaluates and that's his town meta"

imo you're reading too much into meta to the detriment of the fundamentals