Honestly Robik was an annoyance to play with this game, but several times he did what was right rather than what was easy (ie, not hammering me when I was nya nyaaaing at him). IMO he should not be banned for playing against wincon, I don't percieve him as having done that this game. His vote on snickers actually wasn't too bad, and honestly someone has to vote first in LYLO or else we get games like A Fire Upon the Deep Mini Mafia (Read it if you dare, it's super short and super awful) where no townie wants to vote any other townie in LYLO, so nobody votes. Ever.

That being said Robik did do things like post 20 messages in a row and honestly I'd be fine if you warned him for that, but Robik's voting was acceptable this game. He wasn't the one who threw.

He was aggressive and caustic and spammy and I don't like that, and his attitude after my lynch was poop tier. Supreme poop tier. The actual votes on MM1 and Snickers were not against wincon though, since honestly MM1 and Snickers could have easily been the scumteam.

Blazinghand

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July 21 2014 16:41 GMT

#913

Actually, now that I think about it, his attitude BEFORE my lynch was also poop tier, but that's not the point.

Blazinghand

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July 21 2014 16:42 GMT

#915

On July 22 2014 01:40 IAmRobik wrote:

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I wanted to hammer you so fucking badly

I know, right!? I was having so much fun because you couldn't hammer me because you were trying to win the game. FWIW It really is a sign of respect that I was taunting you, I trusted you to be smart enough not to hammer.

Blazinghand

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July 21 2014 18:46 GMT

#927

I gotta say, I think Kush played a great game this game, worked hard to figure things out and push the lynch in the right direction. I really enjoyed playing with Kush this game.

Blazinghand

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July 21 2014 19:34 GMT

#934

On July 22 2014 03:55 kushm4sta wrote:
mm you voted bh though...

mm can make all the noises he wanted to, he cced me, votied me, and got me lynched. It's my fault in part for not effectively out-arguing him, but let's be real here: mm1 has no reason whatsoever to claim blue to cc the cop claim as a VT.

This game is great because it serves as a lesson that even people as ___ as mm will have to admit is real: don't cc the cop as a vt for no reason, because if the cop gets lynched, then you'll get lynched, then town is pretty lost.

mm1 should feel ashamed of himself.

also rng is a great thing

Blazinghand

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July 21 2014 19:47 GMT

#937

On July 22 2014 04:39 Hapahauli wrote:

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Evidently you didn't learn much from this game :/

OK, yes, just this once rng happened to land on town. It's also just so happened to land on town literally every time I've used it....

hmm.

Well, if you think about it, NEXT TIME it's totally gonna work, cause I'm definitely due for it to land on scum. It's kinda surprising it hasn't happened yet.

Blazinghand

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July 21 2014 20:34 GMT

#951

I think Robik would have a perfectly fine argument if he could keep control of the town and not actually lynch the blue player.

Like, it DOES make sense to me that you'd want scum to be confused. I get that, that could be awesome. But I think-- and maybe this is putting the cart before the horse-- that you should only try this kind of shenannigan if you can actually pull it off. Look, if neither me nor mm1 was lynched D1 and scum shot MM1 night 1, then that would be amazing, right? I think probably people would be saying "sick play mm1, very risky, but sick play" or something. Maybe.

But that's not what happened. MM1 and Robik, in pressuring someone who was actually the blue in order to fool scum or take a bullet or whatever, in fakeclaiming as VTs, lost control of the town (or perhaps just screwed up) and I ended up getting lynched.

I'm not gonna say that the strategy that Robik went for, or MM's choice to CC me "100% serious"ly, and vote me, was inherently a bad strategy that couldn't ever work.

I will say that this game, it resulted in the only blue getting CCed by a VT, then getting lynched, then the VT getting lynched.

And I think we can all agree that's not a good outcome. Maybe this was a one-time thing and normally you'll be able to prevent this, but given this one data point, I gotta say "this strategy seems questionable at best".

Blazinghand

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July 21 2014 21:47 GMT

#964

For what it's worth, I did eventually back off on the "robik is scum" theory and did other things, like claim blue and get lynched

Blazinghand

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July 21 2014 22:26 GMT

#971

On July 22 2014 06:52 Hapahauli wrote:

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It's not really worth anything. You created a bunch of chaos, antagonized a townie to the point of insanity, then assumed your claim would bail you out after you pissed off everyone in the game.

And there's nothing that angry townies do better than mislynching people who annoy them :3

sorry, that was meant to be sarcasting. Claiming blue and getting lynched is not an impressive list of achievements.

I will say, I was feeling still kinda ok about getting lynched until I found out MM1 was town.