TL Mafia LXVII: Storm Mafia 2

On July 10 2014 11:35 batsnacks wrote:


No you didn't.

On July 11 2014 06:56 Vivax wrote:


VE, I think this is for you. He doesn't seem all that interested about it now so I would enjoy if you two could make a public discussion about this. He didn't ask you for your reasoning for iamp or anything, just stated he didn't like it and kinda forgot about it to then sheep prplhz on Damdred.

Sort this out for the thread to see, thanks.

On July 11 2014 01:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not going to answer any questions about why I voted iamp in spite of stating preference for lynching lurkers. I had an irrational response to one of his posts I think and someone (I think yamato) made some pretty good points about iamp and then I evaluated the votes for him at the time, and I was like "okay fine whatever" and voted not knowing whether I'd make it back in time to change it.

On July 11 2014 07:33 Vivax wrote:


Can you summarize in your own thoughts why damdred is scum?

After reading some of the discussion about forumite I don´t think he is scum. His reason for townreading prplhz is too incomprehensible to come from mafia. As mafia I would always try to find a reason others might agree with over something like this strange meta reason.

I think Toades´ line of thought was perfectly reasonable here. That he brings up these conflicting points and wants more thoughts on it seems pretty townie to me.

His post sounded a bit like my townplay when I was new to mafia. I can see why people see that as scummy but I don´t think it is. Confidence in your reads isn´t alignmment indicative to me.

I have a hard time seeing anything that might help town in this post. You might as well have not posted anything at all. The list says almost nothing. There´s no reasons at all, so one can´t see your thought process behind the list. To me this looks like you want to appear like you have thoughts on many players without actually having to explain anything.
Saying that people just have to ask to get your proper reads also kinda supports my point. You can make up reasons for liking/ not liking someone relatively quickly, if you already know how you want to read them.
This makes you appear to be trying to figure out the game without having to do anything.

Damdred´s post seemed pretty average to me. Yes, not really scummy but nothing especially townie. Considering that you had him as scummy before this feels strange. Your reason for dropping the suspicion is basically that his reaction was calm and thoughtful.

I don´t like that forumite keeps his vote on koshi here. At that point koshi was already very townie, there´s no reason to believe that koshi is town. Maybe scum forumite would be scared of backing down because it might seem inconsistent? Not sure but that doesn´t really look like scumhunting.

On July 11 2014 13:43 Toadesstern wrote:
I think he's claiming that he fakeclaimed being RB'ed, instead tracked someone, that someone visited Koshi last night and had some convoluted masterplan to net someone by fakeclaiming RB.
And the bad part is that, like I mentioned, I have to take that at face value...

On November 16 2011 01:32 Palmar wrote:
Oh, I also wanted to say, the LAL argument is one of my favorites. Because arguing it defeats the purpose of LAL.

Here's a pro-tip. We lynch all liars, always, and every fucking time. No exceptions.

If someone disagrees he's probably not thinking hard enough, and should re-think before he opens his mouth to spout more bullshit. Or he's scum.

Think before you talk.

On July 11 2014 15:51 slOosh wrote:

Explain.