EPTTL Mafia LXVII: Storm Mafia 2 - Page 82
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
IamPerfection vs ObiWan vs Forumite pick one out of those 3. Toad has decided. I see the cora points and I don't mind them but let's reduce the chaos. IamPerfection and forumite because those 2 are mafia. ObiWan is the lurkeroption if you disagree with both reads, but I want an explanation if you disagree with both reads. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On July 10 2014 01:25 27ninjabunnies wrote: Koshi, I think you are town, but I think you are highly wrong on Iamp. I just don't see him as mafia here. People are reading him a mafia for things I just don't see, and tbh your case isn't convincing me. I think most of the people here are just- "Ooo look, a big case. I don't have to do the work. Let's just sheep koshi and then we can lynch him tomorrow when iamp turns up town". That's how this is going down. And I refuse to be a part of it. I'd rather lynch cora or forumite today. Possibly one of the lurkers, but I can't seem to get yall to agree with my ritoky case. Sure it is possible. I also think that there a tiny bit too many people really against this iamp lynch. Too many people that don't have such a good grasp on this game to be so against this lynch. Like yourself. You fucked around a bit too much in this game to be so against this lynch. It's odd to me. Maybe not. I don't know. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On July 10 2014 01:33 prplhz wrote: does anybody else think it's weird that 27nb believes most of the people on iamp are scum but she claims she cannot mention a single suspicion by name when asked? Lol that is not what I said at all. Learn to read buddy. I already gave who I think are the best lynches today. And I'm working on a post with reads. If oyu want to wait around and read when they are posted, be my guest. I have about 7 more pages to read before I am completey caught up. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On July 10 2014 01:35 Koshi wrote: Sure it is possible. I also think that there a tiny bit too many people really against this iamp lynch. Too many people that don't have such a good grasp on this game to be so against this lynch. Like yourself. You fucked around a bit too much in this game to be so against this lynch. It's odd to me. Maybe not. I don't know. Meh, Idk if I fucked around. I think I'm doing pretty good for halfassing it this game. (See my rant two pages back as to why). There's a lot of people on this iamp lynch too. There's what, 3 who are outspokenly against it? Me, Robik, and i think prp was pretty against it. We aren't all mafia. Maybe prp is, but I have a tr on robik, and I know I'm town. | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On July 08 2014 17:23 Koshi wrote: jow, mderg if you are a blue it is time to start making cases now and be super useful. You wont get nightkilled with all these superb players playing for realsies. I really dislike this post. It´s incrediibly useless to tell me that. Doesn´t change my townread on you, though. On July 08 2014 18:40 Koshi wrote: Yes. I am. But I am reading filters and making a gigantic post. Will take a lot of time. Maybe I should just post it in parts. Yes. smart. I will. Overview of interesting things in filters. No conclusions. Prplhz: - Defends Forumite from the start and continues to do so. Ex. Stating Forumite might have a good reason for his 99% townread without asking what the townread is. Ex. Arguing with slOosh about the question Forumite asked. - Very outspoken and aggressive. Ex. Entrance, towards Sinani and Exo, SlOosh vote. Iamperfection: - Many superficial posts. Page 3 is a good example. Both his Robik read and Damdred read are lazy. - Asked for 10 vigis. Should have been max 4 for somebody who has been in the thread the entire game. Again shows laziness. Toadesstern: - First case in the game, second case in the game. Both cases had scumhunting thoughtprocess behind them. Constant in search for scum. - After reading 1,5 pages confirmed town till lylo and blueclaims. (because he can’t be alive as town till then unless mass saves or something) Corazon: - This post is very town: Reading Corazon his filter it is clear to me from the start that he is trying to push the game forward. He started with giving his opinion on 4 protagonists (Toad/Koshi/Forumite/Robik) and then trew out a comment on Yamato. Making the above post 2 minutes after reading iamps post indicates to me that Corazon is very aware of Robik his filter and is very confident about his own filter. Something a scummer wouldn’t be so confident about. slOosh: - Made a good case on Forumite and limited his posts around Forumite. However, SlOosh never stated to not have read the thread and was open for any questions about anything. Nowhere he shows a lack of confidence. Vivax: I want to point out the difference in iamp (because I already read his) and Vivax his filter by quoting these 5 posts that Vivax chained: + Show Spoiler + On July 08 2014 00:51 Vivax wrote: Idk, shouldn't he be townreading Toad based on what he said? Or where does he draw the line between a weak scumread on prpl and strong one when it comes to Toad? On July 08 2014 01:24 Vivax wrote: The way VE entered the thread kinda gives me the feeling he already wanted to call me scum before he read all that stuff. One point that makes me think of that is that first he called me scummy for reacting poorly to forumite calling me out. When he realized he actually didn't call me out, he called me scummy for reacting to him in the first place. It just doesn't make sense that I should react only to guys talking about me, so it just looks like an adjustment after his previous point was made invalid. His arguments for my reaction being poor were: Which is a perfectly fine argument in line with mafia not looking at the game the same way a townie does. All the way not considering that forumite's preference for Koshi over me or anyone else talking about random stuff has no explanation. On July 08 2014 01:26 Vivax wrote: What's the deal with those kush votes? On July 08 2014 01:36 Vivax wrote: The depth of mafia arguments is up to their creativity, and I wouldn't put it past VE to be creative. Besides, he says my intention was to identify with a town crowd, when my intention was to show why forum could be scum. As said, it looks to me like he was just trying to find scum motives behind my play at any cost. On July 08 2014 01:37 Vivax wrote: Can Cav, Robik and VE explain what about kush's post makes him instascum? This chain is what I like to see in filters D1. He hits multiple people at the same time and is clearly looking for scum. Good stuff. I like the thoughts on Toad, Cora and Vivax. Toad definitely looks like he´s scumhunting. I also think Cora is town, his play feels a bit like my earlier town games. Vivax looks to be scumhunting. I consider all three of them as town for now. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
HaruH- seriously? The guy is pretty much afk for much of day 1 which whatever, he claims he was sick, but comes back, gives basically no reads, jumps on the iamp wagon, and buddies up with Koshi saying he's going to be helping lead the town votes. That is the scummiest shit I have seen thus far. Forumite- as I said before I thought his day 1 stuff was pretty townie, but he hasnt really done anything for me so far. And I don't really see his read on sloosh as scum. Like where is it He just calls sloosh scumm, and no reason for it that I see. Sloosh has done way more to find scum in the little posts that he has than you have in your entire filter. Mderg- ugh. Your reasonings on me is bad. But it's okay. Even though you were lurkfest up until right before us lynching someone, you might be town. Robik- so town. Lol On July 09 2014 23:36 IAmRobik wrote: I AM MAFIA. KILL ME PLEASE. Then when I flip cop, don't lynch iamperfection Thanks. Cora- can we lynch this dude already? Seriously. Not even wanting to play the game, and when questioned by Robik, completely ignores him. I admit, sometimes I totally want to ignore robik too, but when he asks you questions pages upon pages upon end, you answer the damn questions. More reads coming soon. I'm behind like 5 pages now. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
iamperfection (11): prplhz, toadesstern, sloosh, harurh, visceraeyes, obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta, yamato77, alakaslam, koshi, forumite corazon (2): iamperfection, iamrobik exo_ (1): damdred ritoky (1): 27ninjabunnies obiwanshinobi (1): exo_ iamrobik (1): corazon forumite (1): bill hiropro (1): batsnacks With 26 players alive it takes 14.0 votes to lynch. Last update 16:40 GMT (+00:00) | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
Please don't forget to lynch him after I get nk'd tongiht | ||
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Vivax
22407 Posts
Toadesstern- This post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1087 set alarm bells off in my head i don't really give a shit if he thinks im scum but usually when a townie thinks your scum they simply try to get you lynched. Toad dosnt do that he in some convoluted way directing a wagon but not partaking in it. Townies want to lynch scum and for something that he said is pretty fucking convincing i don't get why he wouldn't try to lynch me. Yeah ok, he doesn't really try do that with Cora until like a fuckload of hours later and even then it's still a pretty half-assed "Vote Cora cause...vote Cora wagon of justice etc." Overall he's too focused on himself after posting his townville post with 3 people he's super confident about being scum. ##Vote iamperfection | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
ritoky mderg sinani206 layabout Tehpoofter HiroPro Not voters. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
Yamato- I didn't like yamato beginning day 1, but I actually like him now. This post here makes super sense to me, and because of this post, my mind is changed on the lynch of cora. + Show Spoiler + On July 09 2014 23:48 yamato77 wrote: No, I'm right on him being likely town because I've played with him in probably 10 games by now, as both town and mafia. For reference, here is my "case" on him from survivor series where I got him mislynched D1: Note the bolded. Doesn't he seem to do that a lot this game? His dismissive attitude and general unwillingness to comply with demands is EXACTLY how I would expect a town Cora to act toward people who are accusing him. As scum, he would just incessantly argue. In Quiet game, that's all he did. He argued and argued and argued against EVERYTHING that was posted in his direction, and made many slip-ups in the process. Cora is an easily mislynchable player. Believe me, I've done it, and many games have been thrown away because people got carried away trying to get him lynched (Personality 2, for example). I shoot the lynch down because I think he's town, and it's extremely important not to make these same sort of mistakes mislynching the same sort of players repeatedly for ostensibly similar reasons every time. Now please, stop posting. You make yourself look bad. | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On July 08 2014 19:08 Forumite wrote: Me calling prplhz 99% townie was another way of saying that I´m never considering him for a lynch, I explained that later. Now Toades tunnels because he didn´t get the answer he wanted, honesty wasn´t good enough. Koshi made a convoluted reasoning why I posted what I posted which was basically WIFOM. I´d find it if his filter wasn´t so bloated. Then sloosh sheeps to fake activity and BM votes without reading my posts. Alakaslam sheeps Toades but this one I can at least understand, he found someone he thinks is town and votes the same way. Bill Murray, you´ve allready voted for me so post it in the thread. No stealth-votes! My vote stays on Koshi because his case on me is shit. I don´t like Robik either but could be personal because he´s bad mannered. Robiks preemptive OMGUS looks like a good scum move, but I don´t know anything about either Robik, this might be his normal playstyle. I don´t like that forumite keeps his vote on koshi here. At that point koshi was already very townie, there´s no reason to believe that koshi is town. Maybe scum forumite would be scared of backing down because it might seem inconsistent? Not sure but that doesn´t really look like scumhunting. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On July 10 2014 01:36 27ninjabunnies wrote: Lol that is not what I said at all. Learn to read buddy. I already gave who I think are the best lynches today. And I'm working on a post with reads. If oyu want to wait around and read when they are posted, be my guest. I have about 7 more pages to read before I am completey caught up. except that's exactly what you said and you're not disproving me here, you're just denying it and talking about something else. 1) you say that most people on iamp is scum. fact. 2) i ask you for a name. fact. 3) you say that you don't know who but you know they're there. fact. that's what happened. feel free to disagree with any of those statements but it would be pretty easy for me to quote them. i'm sorry but i just think it's annoying when drama queens cannot read basic context and when they write things they don't mean. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On July 10 2014 01:45 kushm4sta wrote: Iamp has never been mislynched as town. That tells you that when he's town, he's obv town. He is going to write some shit to try to squirm out of this lynch. Don't let him.hammer him now. I would like to read what his last post is. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On July 10 2014 01:49 prplhz wrote: except that's exactly what you said and you're not disproving me here, you're just denying it and talking about something else. 1) you say that most people on iamp is scum. fact. 2) i ask you for a name. fact. 3) you say that you don't know who but you know they're there. fact. that's what happened. feel free to disagree with any of those statements but it would be pretty easy for me to quote them. i'm sorry but i just think it's annoying when drama queens cannot read basic context and when they write things they don't mean. Koshi, I think you are town, but I think you are highly wrong on Iamp. I just don't see him as mafia here. People are reading him a mafia for things I just don't see, and tbh your case isn't convincing me. I think most of the people here are just- "Ooo look, a big case. I don't have to do the work. Let's just sheep koshi and then we can lynch him tomorrow when iamp turns up town". That's how this is going down. And I refuse to be a part of it. I'd rather lynch cora or forumite today. Possibly one of the lurkers, but I can't seem to get yall to agree with my ritoky case. Read the bolded. I said MOST PEOPLE. I never said mafia, I never said town. I generalized and said most people. So fact 1. Wrong. 2. I don't have a name. I don't know who is mafia. I can only tell you who I scum read, and that's forum, you, and ritoky. Then again, ritoky isn't even voting, so it doesn't apply to here. 3. What? | ||
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