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On July 08 2014 22:15 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 22:09 iamperfection wrote:On July 08 2014 22:07 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 22:05 Vivax wrote:
I got the feeling iamp doesn't like you Koshi. Yeah, cuz he thinks I should read him town. Also he dislikes my awesome big posts but for some reason all these vets don't like them. Like marv also never likes them. Dunno. Silly people. you think im scum? Well. I don't think you should be townread. But in Catastrophe Mafia you were even less talky and less interesting so who knows really. For some reason I am thinking I should somewhat ignore you for D1 but like I said I don't really know why.
lol i just realized my filter for this game is almost as long as that entire game how embarrassing. Need to realy work on my scum play.
oh by the way i was on vacation for chrono trigger mafia too so pfft your bad.
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are there even enough active players to achieve a majority?
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koshi it night and day with the difference here im a leader in catastrophe im in no way a leader. Its not hard.
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"misleader" more like
OH YEAH TAKE THAT.
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On July 08 2014 19:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 19:14 Forumite wrote:On July 08 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 18:46 prplhz wrote:
i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy.
can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite? I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable. On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote:Heyo. I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this? On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads. Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads? You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here. Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place. Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well? SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities. Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that. I ask prplhz for reads because I want to know what he thinks, why did you think I asked? Why did you want to know what he thinks? Do you respect his early reads so much that you want to sheep him? Why not ask iamp what he was thinking?
and i dont get why you would post this koshi if you didn't think i was being a leader.
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On July 08 2014 22:26 prplhz wrote:
are there even enough active players to achieve a majority?
maybe? we all probably can't agree though to reach a majority lol
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On July 08 2014 22:29 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 22:26 prplhz wrote:
are there even enough active players to achieve a majority? maybe? we all probably can't agree though to reach a majority lol
why aren't you voting obiwan?
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On July 08 2014 22:31 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 22:29 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 22:26 prplhz wrote:
are there even enough active players to achieve a majority? maybe? we all probably can't agree though to reach a majority lol why aren't you voting obiwan?
Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen a really good case on him
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On July 08 2014 22:32 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 22:31 prplhz wrote:On July 08 2014 22:29 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 22:26 prplhz wrote:
are there even enough active players to achieve a majority? maybe? we all probably can't agree though to reach a majority lol why aren't you voting obiwan? Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen a really good case on him
well according to the rules you're allowed to read his filter and form an opinion of him yourself
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On July 08 2014 22:28 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 19:18 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 19:14 Forumite wrote:On July 08 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 18:46 prplhz wrote:
i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy.
can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite? I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable. On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote:Heyo. I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this? On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads. Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads? You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here. Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place. Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well? SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities. Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that. I ask prplhz for reads because I want to know what he thinks, why did you think I asked? Why did you want to know what he thinks? Do you respect his early reads so much that you want to sheep him? Why not ask iamp what he was thinking? and i dont get why you would post this koshi if you didn't think i was being a leader.
Look at you being smart. Keep going!
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Damdred this is the closest I've seen from you to you posting reads.
On July 08 2014 06:00 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 05:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:32 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:05 yamato77 wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks
People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora
Drunk
Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. worst post all time srsly, why post these things when I'm trying to go to sleep Cause maybe you'll do something productive. Sleep is overrated On July 08 2014 05:06 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks
People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora
Drunk
Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. Oh Ho! Why don't you like me then? Actually i'm curious why you don't like us 3? On July 08 2014 03:30 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 03:08 Corazon wrote:On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.
Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.
Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.
Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.
Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).
Does this make me town? On a more serious note, I'm not going to say someone is 100% scum 5-6 hours into a game. That's just stupid. I refuse to tunnel someone when not all of the players have even posted. It doesn't necessarily make you town and it doesn't make you scum at this point. However your post screams hey guys i'm a townie look i'm being helpful, which is cool it just brings heat down on you and makes you look like you are trying to be seen as town. Toad seems to be playing semi-aggressive I don't know if that can be said he isn't scum hunting however at the moment anyway. Because of the above post. Idk. Seemed like a super weird thing to quote and enter the thread on. It's off to me. On July 08 2014 05:08 IAmRobik wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks
People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora
Drunk
Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. Should I be honored to be in 2 lists or are you just making up reads and putting people in random spots. What don't you like about damdred? What do you like about Kush (who hasn't read his role pm, so you can't actually have a read on him)? What do you like about batsnacks? 1. You should be honored. Not making up reads. They each have a basis, and I'll be glad to expand on any of them. 2. See above. 3. Kush is in his IDGAF mode, and I like it. Atleast for day 1. If he keeps going into his idgaf mode, I'd kill him. 4. So my read on batsnacks is more of I always read him wrong, and I actually think he is scummy this game, so I'm flipping that read. Seriously, I've read him as mafia every game we have played together. I saw something interesting that I wanted to comment on, forgive me for not entering the thread with a hi everyone i got a lot of reading to do lol. I decided to participate with something that was interesting to me someone was giving a few reads and making themselves look like a townie. I don't think this is a good reason for you to dislike me. Okay, I suppose I get that. But what about it made it so much more interesting than the rest of the posts that were posted? I don't find really anything interesting in a post that is asking "OH hey guys let me highlight all the things that I think make me town, so let me ask you, does this certain post make me town?" And your response wasn't the best. So enlighten me. Sure, my post probably wasn't the best at that point and I was trying to enter the thread and trying to be helpful. So on that note I can see how I could be perceived scum or disliked someone who had been silent up until that point enters thread and tells someone that they are trying to hard to be town. Your right it was badly put and probably a bad post, but I do think that the post reads hey guys i'm a townie. Why was his post interesting to me instead of the other myriad of posts? Well he had just responded to someone who had said he was acting scummy and then he demonstrated how his post pointed more towards him being town. Can't help what I think is interesting and what I do not. Sometimes you have to grab onto something to engage with in the thread even if you don't come off the best. And I didn't call him scum or a town just gave my opinon on his post. Okay, thank you for you response. Can I ask you a few more questions? I've never played with you, and these may help my read on you. Have you caught up on all the pages? If so, what do you think of Koshi's posting? Most people say it's trolling and baseless, and could probably put Robik in that category, too. So what do you think of both Robik's and Koshi's posting? If you have caught up with the thread, can you give me 2 people you would not lynch and 2 people you would, then one sentence explaining each. Thanks  I have read all of the thread and have tried to keep up to date. Koshis posting annoyed me a little with the riddles and what not, even though I understand that he was trying to stir up some kind of activity (possibly) from his postings the town does not benefit from random posts that clutter up the thread. However I do think his early postings were trolling and his later ones did add some thought to the thread, Robik's postings have been interesting and he has interacted with the people outside of being random, his overall overreaction to being called scum is note worthy and could be a deflection but i'm not sure. If I was forced to name a few people that gave me interest at this moment I would go with Forumite, VE. I wouldn't say lynch them, Forumites read early on is a bit odd and his and VE call to get a majority lynch in the first 24 hrs or so troubles me. The more time we have to talk and to pry information from people the better rather than the less time. Even though day 1 is always odd in my opinion and you don't have much to go on its always good to gauge how people react. I probably wouldn't lynch exo at this point, or toads. Exo has a history of playing aloof and you can never tell much about him day one. And Toads well hes playing pretty out there and drawing some attention to himself, even though its possible hes mafia hes more likely to be checked playing this way and wouldn't work in his favor
If I compare it to how Cora wrote his post Toad found so scummy, where he weighs pro and cons, you state a bunch of things you find odd, among them VE who proposes quick lynches (while he was not the only one,I think prpl did too).
The jist is that here you're saying a lot of stuff but really not anything at all. It's not like you give weight to these things like: "This is scummy, but that is also townie" etc. You just list things that are noteworthy in your opinion but nowhere do I see you trying to draw a conclusion from them, it's more like you only list everything when you say at the same time that it will sort itself out in some way.
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Kinda hard to formulate but it's the feeling I get from that post.
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On July 08 2014 21:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 21:28 Forumite wrote:
I want layabout and Tehpoofter to die or get their game going And Hiro. But there's not much point in talking about them since you either say you wanna plynch them or you wait for a vig and don't talk about them, so get your decisions straight or talk about people who posted something. And Hiro, forgot about him.
On July 08 2014 22:06 HaruRH wrote:
I'm feeling a lot better today, so ill try to catch up and post my thoughts later. Who are you?
On July 08 2014 21:36 Vivax wrote:
Btw Forum, why do you townread Koshi I don't understand it.
You were super duper scum on him cause he posted riddles, now he's saying you asking prpl for reads didn't make much sense.
If I were to imagine myself in your position as hypothetical townie, I'd rather be suspicious about the guy bitching about my questions that I feel were legitimate than the guy posting riddles in the first pages of the game. Quite a bit of my read on Koshi and Rubik was based on what I felt was anti-town behavior, but noone else has reacted to it so I assume this is how they usually play. Koshis case is bad but anyone can make bad cases. I still think both Koshi and Rubik are scummy, especially Rubik. Preemptive OMGUS is anti-town and seems like a great scum tactic.
On July 08 2014 21:55 yamato77 wrote:
iamp, redirect your attention to obiwan
he's the lynch today Why?
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Then there's this post by Toad which is in my opinion too hyperbole, he's saying Cora is backtracking from all his reads at the same time, when I found his Robik scumread to be clear enough and I don't see him backtracking from it, I see him saying that it's a read early in the game and that it might change, but still his top scumread.
Overall I'm not trusting Toad cause he gives me the feeling he's pushing people before figuring them out, and there are multiple instances where he feels the need to emphasize he's being so townie, and how he goes guns blazing on everyone.
On July 08 2014 08:16 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 08:13 Vivax wrote:
You have to explain to me how Cora weighing in different aspects of somebody being town or scum makes him scum.
I do that all the time too.
It's like you're expecting him to lock a target, and only bring arguments of one kind (guilty or innocent).
That's not how you find mafia, that's how you get somebody lynched.
I would portray you as almost polar opposites cause while he's considerate about the reads he gives and shows some doubts, you're playing the "lock-on and post all scummy stuff you can find-game", but for one exception, Forumite (who you voiced doubts about), but for some reason you'd lynch him before prplhz while I have yet to see you voicing doubts about prplhz himself.
Do you realize where my beef lies? like I said, my beef with Cora is that he did that with every single aspect. Mafias are more cautious about what they're posting and tend to try to be more people-pleaser than townies. I don't mind people bringing multiple arguments into the table, heck I did the same with forumite not a long time ago. I do however mind it if the guy brings 10 arguments on the table and calls all 10 of his own arguments useless and weak in the same post. Not just some of them but literally every single one. The guy is horribly afraid to put his head out in any kind of way.
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On July 08 2014 22:34 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 22:28 iamperfection wrote:On July 08 2014 19:18 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 19:14 Forumite wrote:On July 08 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 18:46 prplhz wrote:
i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy.
can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite? I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable. On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote:Heyo. I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this? On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads. Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads? You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here. Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place. Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well? SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities. Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that. I ask prplhz for reads because I want to know what he thinks, why did you think I asked? Why did you want to know what he thinks? Do you respect his early reads so much that you want to sheep him? Why not ask iamp what he was thinking? and i dont get why you would post this koshi if you didn't think i was being a leader. Look at you being smart. Keep going!
There is nothing to go on with. It just shows what you say is trash and shouldn't be listened to.
I would guess your just a misguided townie as you have been too active and drawing a lot of attention.
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On July 08 2014 22:42 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 22:34 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 22:28 iamperfection wrote:On July 08 2014 19:18 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 19:14 Forumite wrote:On July 08 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 18:46 prplhz wrote:
i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy.
can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite? I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable. On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote:Heyo. I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this? On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads. Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads? You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here. Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place. Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well? SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities. Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that. I ask prplhz for reads because I want to know what he thinks, why did you think I asked? Why did you want to know what he thinks? Do you respect his early reads so much that you want to sheep him? Why not ask iamp what he was thinking? and i dont get why you would post this koshi if you didn't think i was being a leader. Look at you being smart. Keep going! There is nothing to go on with. It just shows what you say is trash and shouldn't be listened to. I would guess your just a misguided townie as you have been too active and drawing a lot of attention.
I meant keep going on with the smartness.
I am not misguided at all btw. Closest guy figuring out the scumteam is without doubt me.
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On July 08 2014 22:36 Vivax wrote:Damdred this is the closest I've seen from you to you posting reads. Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 06:00 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:32 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:05 yamato77 wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks
People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora
Drunk
Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. worst post all time srsly, why post these things when I'm trying to go to sleep Cause maybe you'll do something productive. Sleep is overrated On July 08 2014 05:06 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks
People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora
Drunk
Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. Oh Ho! Why don't you like me then? Actually i'm curious why you don't like us 3? On July 08 2014 03:30 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 03:08 Corazon wrote:On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.
Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.
Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.
Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.
Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).
Does this make me town? On a more serious note, I'm not going to say someone is 100% scum 5-6 hours into a game. That's just stupid. I refuse to tunnel someone when not all of the players have even posted. It doesn't necessarily make you town and it doesn't make you scum at this point. However your post screams hey guys i'm a townie look i'm being helpful, which is cool it just brings heat down on you and makes you look like you are trying to be seen as town. Toad seems to be playing semi-aggressive I don't know if that can be said he isn't scum hunting however at the moment anyway. Because of the above post. Idk. Seemed like a super weird thing to quote and enter the thread on. It's off to me. On July 08 2014 05:08 IAmRobik wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks
People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora
Drunk
Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. Should I be honored to be in 2 lists or are you just making up reads and putting people in random spots. What don't you like about damdred? What do you like about Kush (who hasn't read his role pm, so you can't actually have a read on him)? What do you like about batsnacks? 1. You should be honored. Not making up reads. They each have a basis, and I'll be glad to expand on any of them. 2. See above. 3. Kush is in his IDGAF mode, and I like it. Atleast for day 1. If he keeps going into his idgaf mode, I'd kill him. 4. So my read on batsnacks is more of I always read him wrong, and I actually think he is scummy this game, so I'm flipping that read. Seriously, I've read him as mafia every game we have played together. I saw something interesting that I wanted to comment on, forgive me for not entering the thread with a hi everyone i got a lot of reading to do lol. I decided to participate with something that was interesting to me someone was giving a few reads and making themselves look like a townie. I don't think this is a good reason for you to dislike me. Okay, I suppose I get that. But what about it made it so much more interesting than the rest of the posts that were posted? I don't find really anything interesting in a post that is asking "OH hey guys let me highlight all the things that I think make me town, so let me ask you, does this certain post make me town?" And your response wasn't the best. So enlighten me. Sure, my post probably wasn't the best at that point and I was trying to enter the thread and trying to be helpful. So on that note I can see how I could be perceived scum or disliked someone who had been silent up until that point enters thread and tells someone that they are trying to hard to be town. Your right it was badly put and probably a bad post, but I do think that the post reads hey guys i'm a townie. Why was his post interesting to me instead of the other myriad of posts? Well he had just responded to someone who had said he was acting scummy and then he demonstrated how his post pointed more towards him being town. Can't help what I think is interesting and what I do not. Sometimes you have to grab onto something to engage with in the thread even if you don't come off the best. And I didn't call him scum or a town just gave my opinon on his post. Okay, thank you for you response. Can I ask you a few more questions? I've never played with you, and these may help my read on you. Have you caught up on all the pages? If so, what do you think of Koshi's posting? Most people say it's trolling and baseless, and could probably put Robik in that category, too. So what do you think of both Robik's and Koshi's posting? If you have caught up with the thread, can you give me 2 people you would not lynch and 2 people you would, then one sentence explaining each. Thanks I have read all of the thread and have tried to keep up to date. Koshis posting annoyed me a little with the riddles and what not, even though I understand that he was trying to stir up some kind of activity (possibly) from his postings the town does not benefit from random posts that clutter up the thread. However I do think his early postings were trolling and his later ones did add some thought to the thread, Robik's postings have been interesting and he has interacted with the people outside of being random, his overall overreaction to being called scum is note worthy and could be a deflection but i'm not sure. If I was forced to name a few people that gave me interest at this moment I would go with Forumite, VE. I wouldn't say lynch them, Forumites read early on is a bit odd and his and VE call to get a majority lynch in the first 24 hrs or so troubles me. The more time we have to talk and to pry information from people the better rather than the less time. Even though day 1 is always odd in my opinion and you don't have much to go on its always good to gauge how people react. I probably wouldn't lynch exo at this point, or toads. Exo has a history of playing aloof and you can never tell much about him day one. And Toads well hes playing pretty out there and drawing some attention to himself, even though its possible hes mafia hes more likely to be checked playing this way and wouldn't work in his favor If I compare it to how Cora wrote his post Toad found so scummy, where he weighs pro and cons, you state a bunch of things you find odd, among them VE who proposes quick lynches (while he was not the only one,I think prpl did too). The jist is that here you're saying a lot of stuff but really not anything at all. It's not like you give weight to these things like: "This is scummy, but that is also townie" etc. You just list things that are noteworthy in your opinion but nowhere do I see you trying to draw a conclusion from them, it's more like you only list everything when you say at the same time that it will sort itself out in some way.
Eh, I guess I can see that. Like i've said before though it was in the parameters of the question I was asked, and I was asked to keep it brief so I did. It probably wasn't the best decision based on the few posts I have gotten in response to it as it made me appear scummy I suppose.
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On July 08 2014 19:08 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 10:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: Forumite, I didn't like the reasons he said he was suspicious of Koshi - initially it was because of his fluffy riddle posts at the beginning, and he further went on to say that he "hitched onto" Toad's case on Forumite adding his own "complex reasoning" or whatever. So ultimately that's where his vote is.
And his read on prplhz...like, at first he said like "99% sure" and has described him as confirmed town. And the reasoning he gave is pretty bad - but not one I can really argue with because it's based on a personal metric that may or may not be true.
I want to hear others' thoughts on Forumite. I think ultimately I'd rather wait on him, but I might be convinced to lynch him. Me calling prplhz 99% townie was another way of saying that I´m never considering him for a lynch, I explained that later. Now Toades tunnels because he didn´t get the answer he wanted, honesty wasn´t good enough. Koshi made a convoluted reasoning why I posted what I posted which was basically WIFOM. I´d find it if his filter wasn´t so bloated. Then sloosh sheeps to fake activity and BM votes without reading my posts. Alakaslam sheeps Toades but this one I can at least understand, he found someone he thinks is town and votes the same way. Bill Murray, you´ve allready voted for me so post it in the thread. No stealth-votes! My vote stays on Koshi because his case on me is shit. I don´t like Robik either but could be personal because he´s bad mannered. Robiks preemptive OMGUS looks like a good scum move, but I don´t know anything about either Robik, this might be his normal playstyle.
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