EPTTL Mafia LXVII: Storm Mafia 2 - Page 43
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On July 08 2014 19:18 Koshi wrote: I´m not voting for prplhz but that doesn´t mean I don´t care what he thinks. No, prplhz isn´t a mafia god who can find scum from their first posts (unlike SloOsh, zomg!), who cares? Any insight is valuable. Why did you want to know what he thinks? Do you respect his early reads so much that you want to sheep him? Why not ask iamp what he was thinking? iamperfection? Why should I ask him over prplhz? Seriously, why? I don´t understand why you would ask me something like that. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On July 08 2014 19:41 Forumite wrote: I´m not voting for prplhz but that doesn´t mean I don´t care what he thinks. No, prplhz isn´t a mafia god who can find scum from their first posts (unlike SloOsh, zomg!), who cares? Any insight is valuable. iamperfection? Why should I ask him over prplhz? Seriously, why? I don´t understand why you would ask me something like that. Because I have to believe you asked prplhz his reads so his answer would help you solve the game. People post stuff for shit and giggles obviously, but you asked prplhz his reads while scumreading him. It's odd. iamp? It doesn't have to be iamp. I used iamp as example because I remember him being active and very neutral towards you. I would ask my bestest bet on a good and helpful answer that question. A veteran. Not a guy I scumread. It's odd to me. Obviously you play different than me. So don't think I find you solely scummy for this question. New question: You said you are pretty good at finding valuable posts and analysing them. However, your reads this game have been rather lackluster. Are you too annoyed by me scumreading you to play the game optimally? | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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batsnacks
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On July 08 2014 19:57 Koshi wrote:New question: Am I good at finding valuable posts and analysing? No, I don´t think so, I´m decent at random pressure and seeing patterns and sometimes I get a good case going, but that was two years ago, I´m probably crap by now. I had a decent start of the game, right? You said you are pretty good at finding valuable posts and analysing them. However, your reads this game have been rather lackluster. Are you too annoyed by me scumreading you to play the game optimally? Final part of the question, first it´s not your case, you are sheeping Toades. The only thing you contributed is WIFOM that looks good enough for town to let it slip by. And of course I´m having trouble focusing on scum, I spent last evening making myself look scummy and then defending myself, and now a few more have voted during the night. It´s far from a lynch but it´s a distraction. | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
Forumite is under pressure and he is dealing with it really bad. Maybe this thing with the reads and with the 99% is all bullshit and untrue. Then his play under pressure is still iffy. Look at his recent posts. He is utterly convinced that I am scum and he can't make a thoughtful post about anything else. Look at his other read Toad, is this what why I have to unvote Forumite for: On Toades, I don´t know. It´s OMGUS for voting me and the opposite for (nearly) dropping the case a few hours later. Him pushing for me makes it hard for me to be objective about his play. Others seem to think it makes him slightly townie, whatever. This is why he is currently scumreading Robik for: This doesn´t make you town, this just makes it easy for you APPEAR town. I know how frustrating it is to mess up as town, act scummy and then get mislynched. When you say that you hate being called scum then it reads to me like you want to tap into that to make it look like you are town. And as some have allready stated, you do this even when you are scum, so why should this make us think you are town? You talk about this a lot, basically threatening with OMGUS for anyone doubting you. Are these the kinda reads I want to see from a townie under pressure? This is the guy that is voting me for ruining the thread so he can't find the valuable post. He is voting Robik because of his playstyle. It's kinda really just that. And he sticks to his guns about it. "Preemptive omgus is scummy" Then let me quote his scumread progression on me: On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote: Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die. ##Vote: Koshi On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote: Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die. On July 08 2014 03:40 Forumite wrote: Koshi, I still think he´s scummy, even more than the usual OMGUS for pushing me. His case on me felt like he waited to hitch on to Toades case, adding his own complex reasonings to explain why scum would do what I did, basically WIFOM. He also accused me of calling Toades scum, which I´m fairly sure I never did. I´m leaving my vote on Koshi. Toades, did you have any questions for me? On July 08 2014 04:50 Forumite wrote: On his earlier posts, I have changed my mind. I understand that the early game can be dull and those posts at least gets things going. I still lean heavily towards scum on Koshi, he drew those riddle posts for a few too many pages and has since done a few things that I feel are off when pushing me. On the above quote: He says he changed his opinion on my early game, saying it might be to get things going, but then backtracks on that statement immediately saying that I talked about my riddles too long. While I only posted 1 riddle. Or 2 in 1 post w.e. But please open my filter. How many posts did I make around my riddle? I think max. 6 and it completely stopped after prplhz found the right answer and I went hardcore serious. So what he says is wrong. Is wrong scummy in this case? I find it very uncomfortable tbh. Because his read on me looks like a scared scum who is afraid to fall without a scumread. Now his reasoning to read me scum is basically omgus. He says I am "off" yet no reasons are given. I don't think I am scumreading him in a scummy manner. I am always very open with my flow of thought. On July 08 2014 19:08 Forumite wrote: My vote stays on Koshi because his case on me is shit. I don´t like Robik either but could be personal because he´s bad mannered. Robiks preemptive OMGUS looks like a good scum move, but I don´t know anything about either Robik, this might be his normal playstyle. I don't know if Forumite thinks he is a shining beacon of townyness. He isn't and shouldn't base his reads on almost solely OMGUS. The SlOosh case is incoming and we will see what that brings. But it smells like it is going to be an easier OMGUS target than me. -------------------------------------- Been working on this too long and on / off due to work. Just going to press enter now. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On July 08 2014 20:23 sinani206 wrote: Guys did anyone else just realize how scummy koshi is Please tell us all about it. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
Dude is the lynch today, forreals. | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On July 08 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote: This is the post you used to justify sheeping Toades. It´s WIFOM and lies. I never pushed Toades, I knew me not voting for prplhz doesn´t make Toades scum. I said I considered chainsawing him to fit in with my "read" on prplhz, but knowing that prplhz wasn´t really confirmed town to anyone else attacking Toades would have been a stupid thing to do. It´s still taken up as a reason why I´m scummy. Can´t you people read? Nha bro, that's not how it works. Mafia doesn't think about why they actually read people. They think about covering themselves if they get called out. Scum doesn't connect the "I can justify reading prplhz for town because my history with him" with "this guy is town because he scumreaded prplhz and I also do that as town". I am not saying it is impossible for scum to do it, but scum is more likely to slip in their reasoning doing these kinda connect reads. mafia more likely thinks "ok, prplhz is town and I can defend him with this meta reason x from past games, I could call the guy who is putting pressure on prplhz scum because he is wrong but let's go after this guy who is posting total nonsense, nobody will think I am off base for calling this guy out, he clearly is doing nothing". You should be proud of your case. It actually shows mafia mindset. | ||
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yamato77
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
Not sure anymore if you are scum, Koshi, but your case still sucks | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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Vivax
21767 Posts
Yamato, tell me more about Obi and what you saw between me and VE. I didn't see the scumminess in SlOosh's initial post, but him fucking off leaving it only at scumreading Forum and then kind of moderating between me and Toad without trying to read us was scummy. | ||
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Vivax
21767 Posts
On July 08 2014 21:28 Forumite wrote: I want layabout and Tehpoofter to die or get their game going And Hiro. But there's not much point in talking about them since you either say you wanna plynch them or you wait for a vig and don't talk about them, so get your decisions straight or talk about people who posted something. | ||
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Vivax
21767 Posts
You were super duper scum on him cause he posted riddles, now he's saying you asking prpl for reads didn't make much sense. If I were to imagine myself in your position as hypothetical townie, I'd rather be suspicious about the guy bitching about my questions that I feel were legitimate than the guy posting riddles in the first pages of the game. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On July 08 2014 21:29 Vivax wrote: Yamato, tell me more about Obi and what you saw between me and VE. I already explained my read through of you/VE, but the cliff notes is that neither of you really looks bad after it. I thought there was more but there wasn't. As for Obi, let's take a casual look through his filter. On July 08 2014 01:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote: i voted him to blend in with the town. i was really hoping nobody would call me on it shit gg. This post, and the preceding one where he actually votes kush, are extremely awkward attempts at humor. Aside from this, and some questions that he never follows up on, Obi really hasn't made use of his time in the thread in a way that I find productive. Notably, he apparently has no reads to speak of, yet finds the thread so boring he leaves it. This is in contrast to how I remember his play in Order. There he seemed direct, somewhat transparent, and actually played in a townie way. I'm not getting any of that here. | ||
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