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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
July 08 2014 13:46 GMT
#901
Damdred would you say your a top player where you play?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 08 2014 13:46 GMT
#902
hey slam what you think of your buddy damdred?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21976 Posts
July 08 2014 13:47 GMT
#903
On July 08 2014 22:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 22:36 Vivax wrote:
Damdred this is the closest I've seen from you to you posting reads.

On July 08 2014 06:00 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:32 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:05 yamato77 wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks

People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred

People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora

Drunk
Layabout


I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.

Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.

If you want reads for any of them ask me.

Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.

Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.

Everything after this post is fair game.

Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz.

worst post all time

srsly, why post these things when I'm trying to go to sleep


Cause maybe you'll do something productive. Sleep is overrated

On July 08 2014 05:06 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks

People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred

People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora

Drunk
Layabout


I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.

Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.

If you want reads for any of them ask me.

Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.

Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.

Everything after this post is fair game.

Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz.


Oh Ho! Why don't you like me then? Actually i'm curious why you don't like us 3?


On July 08 2014 03:30 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:08 Corazon wrote:
[quote]
Does this make me town?

On a more serious note, I'm not going to say someone is 100% scum 5-6 hours into a game. That's just stupid. I refuse to tunnel someone when not all of the players have even posted.


It doesn't necessarily make you town and it doesn't make you scum at this point. However your post screams hey guys i'm a townie look i'm being helpful, which is cool it just brings heat down on you and makes you look like you are trying to be seen as town.

Toad seems to be playing semi-aggressive I don't know if that can be said he isn't scum hunting however at the moment anyway.

Because of the above post. Idk. Seemed like a super weird thing to quote and enter the thread on. It's off to me.

On July 08 2014 05:08 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks

People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred

People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora

Drunk
Layabout


I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.

Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.

If you want reads for any of them ask me.

Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.

Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.

Everything after this post is fair game.

Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz.

Should I be honored to be in 2 lists or are you just making up reads and putting people in random spots.

What don't you like about damdred?
What do you like about Kush (who hasn't read his role pm, so you can't actually have a read on him)?
What do you like about batsnacks?


1. You should be honored. Not making up reads. They each have a basis, and I'll be glad to expand on any of them.
2. See above.
3. Kush is in his IDGAF mode, and I like it. Atleast for day 1. If he keeps going into his idgaf mode, I'd kill him.
4. So my read on batsnacks is more of I always read him wrong, and I actually think he is scummy this game, so I'm flipping that read. Seriously, I've read him as mafia every game we have played together.


I saw something interesting that I wanted to comment on, forgive me for not entering the thread with a hi everyone i got a lot of reading to do lol. I decided to participate with something that was interesting to me someone was giving a few reads and making themselves look like a townie. I don't think this is a good reason for you to dislike me.


Okay, I suppose I get that.

But what about it made it so much more interesting than the rest of the posts that were posted? I don't find really anything interesting in a post that is asking "OH hey guys let me highlight all the things that I think make me town, so let me ask you, does this certain post make me town?"

And your response wasn't the best. So enlighten me.


Sure, my post probably wasn't the best at that point and I was trying to enter the thread and trying to be helpful. So on that note I can see how I could be perceived scum or disliked someone who had been silent up until that point enters thread and tells someone that they are trying to hard to be town. Your right it was badly put and probably a bad post, but I do think that the post reads hey guys i'm a townie.

Why was his post interesting to me instead of the other myriad of posts? Well he had just responded to someone who had said he was acting scummy and then he demonstrated how his post pointed more towards him being town. Can't help what I think is interesting and what I do not. Sometimes you have to grab onto something to engage with in the thread even if you don't come off the best. And I didn't call him scum or a town just gave my opinon on his post.


Okay, thank you for you response.

Can I ask you a few more questions? I've never played with you, and these may help my read on you.

Have you caught up on all the pages?
If so, what do you think of Koshi's posting? Most people say it's trolling and baseless, and could probably put Robik in that category, too. So what do you think of both Robik's and Koshi's posting?

If you have caught up with the thread, can you give me 2 people you would not lynch and 2 people you would, then one sentence explaining each.

Thanks



I have read all of the thread and have tried to keep up to date.

Koshis posting annoyed me a little with the riddles and what not, even though I understand that he was trying to stir up some kind of activity (possibly) from his postings the town does not benefit from random posts that clutter up the thread. However I do think his early postings were trolling and his later ones did add some thought to the thread, Robik's postings have been interesting and he has interacted with the people outside of being random, his overall overreaction to being called scum is note worthy and could be a deflection but i'm not sure.

If I was forced to name a few people that gave me interest at this moment I would go with Forumite, VE. I wouldn't say lynch them, Forumites read early on is a bit odd and his and VE call to get a majority lynch in the first 24 hrs or so troubles me. The more time we have to talk and to pry information from people the better rather than the less time. Even though day 1 is always odd in my opinion and you don't have much to go on its always good to gauge how people react.

I probably wouldn't lynch exo at this point, or toads. Exo has a history of playing aloof and you can never tell much about him day one. And Toads well hes playing pretty out there and drawing some attention to himself, even though its possible hes mafia hes more likely to be checked playing this way and wouldn't work in his favor


If I compare it to how Cora wrote his post Toad found so scummy, where he weighs pro and cons, you state a bunch of things you find odd, among them VE who proposes quick lynches (while he was not the only one,I think prpl did too).

The jist is that here you're saying a lot of stuff but really not anything at all. It's not like you give weight to these things like: "This is scummy, but that is also townie" etc. You just list things that are noteworthy in your opinion but nowhere do I see you trying to draw a conclusion from them, it's more like you only list everything when you say at the same time that it will sort itself out in some way.



Eh, I guess I can see that. Like i've said before though it was in the parameters of the question I was asked, and I was asked to keep it brief so I did. It probably wasn't the best decision based on the few posts I have gotten in response to it as it made me appear scummy I suppose.


Well I hope you won't only post reads when asked cause that's what I've seen of you so far.
Do you think I have some point with Toad or do you stick to your own read.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 13:47 GMT
#904
On July 08 2014 22:41 Vivax wrote:
Then there's this post by Toad which is in my opinion too hyperbole, he's saying Cora is backtracking from all his reads at the same time, when I found his Robik scumread to be clear enough and I don't see him backtracking from it, I see him saying that it's a read early in the game and that it might change, but still his top scumread.

Overall I'm not trusting Toad cause he gives me the feeling he's pushing people before figuring them out, and there are multiple instances where he feels the need to emphasize he's being so townie, and how he goes guns blazing on everyone.


Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 08:16 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 08 2014 08:13 Vivax wrote:
You have to explain to me how Cora weighing in different aspects of somebody being town or scum makes him scum.
I do that all the time too.

It's like you're expecting him to lock a target, and only bring arguments of one kind (guilty or innocent).
That's not how you find mafia, that's how you get somebody lynched.

I would portray you as almost polar opposites cause while he's considerate about the reads he gives and shows some doubts, you're playing the "lock-on and post all scummy stuff you can find-game", but for one exception, Forumite (who you voiced doubts about), but for some reason you'd lynch him before prplhz while I have yet to see you voicing doubts about prplhz himself.

Do you realize where my beef lies?

like I said, my beef with Cora is that he did that with every single aspect. Mafias are more cautious about what they're posting and tend to try to be more people-pleaser than townies.

I don't mind people bringing multiple arguments into the table, heck I did the same with forumite not a long time ago. I do however mind it if the guy brings 10 arguments on the table and calls all 10 of his own arguments useless and weak in the same post. Not just some of them but literally every single one.
The guy is horribly afraid to put his head out in any kind of way.

Not sure if I agree. In the beginning he was doing random voting with his first push on prplhz, that´s not scummy. Repeating how everyone thinks he´s town, maybe a bit odd.
:3
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21976 Posts
July 08 2014 13:48 GMT
#905
On July 08 2014 22:47 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 22:41 Vivax wrote:
Then there's this post by Toad which is in my opinion too hyperbole, he's saying Cora is backtracking from all his reads at the same time, when I found his Robik scumread to be clear enough and I don't see him backtracking from it, I see him saying that it's a read early in the game and that it might change, but still his top scumread.

Overall I'm not trusting Toad cause he gives me the feeling he's pushing people before figuring them out, and there are multiple instances where he feels the need to emphasize he's being so townie, and how he goes guns blazing on everyone.


On July 08 2014 08:16 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 08 2014 08:13 Vivax wrote:
You have to explain to me how Cora weighing in different aspects of somebody being town or scum makes him scum.
I do that all the time too.

It's like you're expecting him to lock a target, and only bring arguments of one kind (guilty or innocent).
That's not how you find mafia, that's how you get somebody lynched.

I would portray you as almost polar opposites cause while he's considerate about the reads he gives and shows some doubts, you're playing the "lock-on and post all scummy stuff you can find-game", but for one exception, Forumite (who you voiced doubts about), but for some reason you'd lynch him before prplhz while I have yet to see you voicing doubts about prplhz himself.

Do you realize where my beef lies?

like I said, my beef with Cora is that he did that with every single aspect. Mafias are more cautious about what they're posting and tend to try to be more people-pleaser than townies.

I don't mind people bringing multiple arguments into the table, heck I did the same with forumite not a long time ago. I do however mind it if the guy brings 10 arguments on the table and calls all 10 of his own arguments useless and weak in the same post. Not just some of them but literally every single one.
The guy is horribly afraid to put his head out in any kind of way.

Not sure if I agree. In the beginning he was doing random voting with his first push on prplhz, that´s not scummy. Repeating how everyone thinks he´s town, maybe a bit odd.


Why random voting, he seemed pretty adamant about defending his point when I called him out on it.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 13:52 GMT
#906
On July 08 2014 22:46 prplhz wrote:
hey slam what you think of your buddy damdred?

Seems fine to me but no filter izm lemme look
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 13:52 GMT
#907
Alakaslam so cute.

On July 08 2014 22:40 prplhz wrote:
obiwan damdred sloosh

what?

On July 08 2014 22:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 22:42 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:34 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:28 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:18 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:14 Forumite wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 18:46 prplhz wrote:
i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy.

can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite?

I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable.
On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote:
Heyo.

I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this?

On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads.

Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads?

You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here.

Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place.

Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well?

SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities.

Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that.
I ask prplhz for reads because I want to know what he thinks, why did you think I asked?

Why did you want to know what he thinks? Do you respect his early reads so much that you want to sheep him? Why not ask iamp what he was thinking?

and i dont get why you would post this koshi if you didn't think i was being a leader.

Look at you being smart. Keep going!

There is nothing to go on with. It just shows what you say is trash and shouldn't be listened to.

I would guess your just a misguided townie as you have been too active and drawing a lot of attention.


I meant keep going on with the smartness.

I am not misguided at all btw. Closest guy figuring out the scumteam is without doubt me.
Who´s in the scumteam?

On July 08 2014 22:48 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 22:47 Forumite wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:41 Vivax wrote:
Then there's this post by Toad which is in my opinion too hyperbole, he's saying Cora is backtracking from all his reads at the same time, when I found his Robik scumread to be clear enough and I don't see him backtracking from it, I see him saying that it's a read early in the game and that it might change, but still his top scumread.

Overall I'm not trusting Toad cause he gives me the feeling he's pushing people before figuring them out, and there are multiple instances where he feels the need to emphasize he's being so townie, and how he goes guns blazing on everyone.


On July 08 2014 08:16 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 08 2014 08:13 Vivax wrote:
You have to explain to me how Cora weighing in different aspects of somebody being town or scum makes him scum.
I do that all the time too.

It's like you're expecting him to lock a target, and only bring arguments of one kind (guilty or innocent).
That's not how you find mafia, that's how you get somebody lynched.

I would portray you as almost polar opposites cause while he's considerate about the reads he gives and shows some doubts, you're playing the "lock-on and post all scummy stuff you can find-game", but for one exception, Forumite (who you voiced doubts about), but for some reason you'd lynch him before prplhz while I have yet to see you voicing doubts about prplhz himself.

Do you realize where my beef lies?

like I said, my beef with Cora is that he did that with every single aspect. Mafias are more cautious about what they're posting and tend to try to be more people-pleaser than townies.

I don't mind people bringing multiple arguments into the table, heck I did the same with forumite not a long time ago. I do however mind it if the guy brings 10 arguments on the table and calls all 10 of his own arguments useless and weak in the same post. Not just some of them but literally every single one.
The guy is horribly afraid to put his head out in any kind of way.

Not sure if I agree. In the beginning he was doing random voting with his first push on prplhz, that´s not scummy. Repeating how everyone thinks he´s town, maybe a bit odd.


Why random voting, he seemed pretty adamant about defending his point when I called him out on it.
Just because there´s not much substance behind a random vote doesn´t mean he has to cave at the first sign someone disagrees. It doesn´t provide pressure if he´s not pressuring.
:3
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 08 2014 13:53 GMT
#908
On July 08 2014 22:46 iamperfection wrote:
Damdred would you say your a top player where you play?


I would say i'm probably middle of the pack especially early. But I feel a bit rusty as I ran more games lately than I played.

On July 08 2014 22:47 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 22:44 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:36 Vivax wrote:
Damdred this is the closest I've seen from you to you posting reads.

On July 08 2014 06:00 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:32 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:05 yamato77 wrote:
[quote]
worst post all time

srsly, why post these things when I'm trying to go to sleep


Cause maybe you'll do something productive. Sleep is overrated

On July 08 2014 05:06 Damdred wrote:
[quote]

Oh Ho! Why don't you like me then? Actually i'm curious why you don't like us 3?


On July 08 2014 03:30 Damdred wrote:
[quote]

It doesn't necessarily make you town and it doesn't make you scum at this point. However your post screams hey guys i'm a townie look i'm being helpful, which is cool it just brings heat down on you and makes you look like you are trying to be seen as town.

Toad seems to be playing semi-aggressive I don't know if that can be said he isn't scum hunting however at the moment anyway.

Because of the above post. Idk. Seemed like a super weird thing to quote and enter the thread on. It's off to me.

On July 08 2014 05:08 IAmRobik wrote:
[quote]
Should I be honored to be in 2 lists or are you just making up reads and putting people in random spots.

What don't you like about damdred?
What do you like about Kush (who hasn't read his role pm, so you can't actually have a read on him)?
What do you like about batsnacks?


1. You should be honored. Not making up reads. They each have a basis, and I'll be glad to expand on any of them.
2. See above.
3. Kush is in his IDGAF mode, and I like it. Atleast for day 1. If he keeps going into his idgaf mode, I'd kill him.
4. So my read on batsnacks is more of I always read him wrong, and I actually think he is scummy this game, so I'm flipping that read. Seriously, I've read him as mafia every game we have played together.


I saw something interesting that I wanted to comment on, forgive me for not entering the thread with a hi everyone i got a lot of reading to do lol. I decided to participate with something that was interesting to me someone was giving a few reads and making themselves look like a townie. I don't think this is a good reason for you to dislike me.


Okay, I suppose I get that.

But what about it made it so much more interesting than the rest of the posts that were posted? I don't find really anything interesting in a post that is asking "OH hey guys let me highlight all the things that I think make me town, so let me ask you, does this certain post make me town?"

And your response wasn't the best. So enlighten me.


Sure, my post probably wasn't the best at that point and I was trying to enter the thread and trying to be helpful. So on that note I can see how I could be perceived scum or disliked someone who had been silent up until that point enters thread and tells someone that they are trying to hard to be town. Your right it was badly put and probably a bad post, but I do think that the post reads hey guys i'm a townie.

Why was his post interesting to me instead of the other myriad of posts? Well he had just responded to someone who had said he was acting scummy and then he demonstrated how his post pointed more towards him being town. Can't help what I think is interesting and what I do not. Sometimes you have to grab onto something to engage with in the thread even if you don't come off the best. And I didn't call him scum or a town just gave my opinon on his post.


Okay, thank you for you response.

Can I ask you a few more questions? I've never played with you, and these may help my read on you.

Have you caught up on all the pages?
If so, what do you think of Koshi's posting? Most people say it's trolling and baseless, and could probably put Robik in that category, too. So what do you think of both Robik's and Koshi's posting?

If you have caught up with the thread, can you give me 2 people you would not lynch and 2 people you would, then one sentence explaining each.

Thanks



I have read all of the thread and have tried to keep up to date.

Koshis posting annoyed me a little with the riddles and what not, even though I understand that he was trying to stir up some kind of activity (possibly) from his postings the town does not benefit from random posts that clutter up the thread. However I do think his early postings were trolling and his later ones did add some thought to the thread, Robik's postings have been interesting and he has interacted with the people outside of being random, his overall overreaction to being called scum is note worthy and could be a deflection but i'm not sure.

If I was forced to name a few people that gave me interest at this moment I would go with Forumite, VE. I wouldn't say lynch them, Forumites read early on is a bit odd and his and VE call to get a majority lynch in the first 24 hrs or so troubles me. The more time we have to talk and to pry information from people the better rather than the less time. Even though day 1 is always odd in my opinion and you don't have much to go on its always good to gauge how people react.

I probably wouldn't lynch exo at this point, or toads. Exo has a history of playing aloof and you can never tell much about him day one. And Toads well hes playing pretty out there and drawing some attention to himself, even though its possible hes mafia hes more likely to be checked playing this way and wouldn't work in his favor


If I compare it to how Cora wrote his post Toad found so scummy, where he weighs pro and cons, you state a bunch of things you find odd, among them VE who proposes quick lynches (while he was not the only one,I think prpl did too).

The jist is that here you're saying a lot of stuff but really not anything at all. It's not like you give weight to these things like: "This is scummy, but that is also townie" etc. You just list things that are noteworthy in your opinion but nowhere do I see you trying to draw a conclusion from them, it's more like you only list everything when you say at the same time that it will sort itself out in some way.



Eh, I guess I can see that. Like i've said before though it was in the parameters of the question I was asked, and I was asked to keep it brief so I did. It probably wasn't the best decision based on the few posts I have gotten in response to it as it made me appear scummy I suppose.


Well I hope you won't only post reads when asked cause that's what I've seen of you so far.
Do you think I have some point with Toad or do you stick to your own read.


You do have a point and it is something a mafia would do. I just don't think its good mafia play to bring so much attention to yourself so early
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 13:54 GMT
#909
On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks

People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred

People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora

Drunk
Layabout


I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.

Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.

If you want reads for any of them ask me.

Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.

Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.

Everything after this post is fair game.

Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz.


Hey look! Another opportunity

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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 13:57 GMT
#910
On July 08 2014 07:11 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 07:09 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 07:09 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 06:54 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 06:46 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Why? Game is looking pretty easy.

How so.

Strong people (aka vets or people I know) are all looking like they want to help town.
The less volume posters are cool guys.
My scumread wants to proof himself.

The downsize is we got 4 0 posters but they will come through. ##Believe.

lol i take it i'm the scum read that wants to proove himself lol gg

Not really.


my apologies then i'll just go take a nap then lol

Open the nested quotes

This is textbook scum
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 13:59 GMT
#911
On July 08 2014 22:53 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 22:46 iamperfection wrote:
Damdred would you say your a top player where you play?


I would say i'm probably middle of the pack especially early. But I feel a bit rusty as I ran more games lately than I played.

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 22:47 Vivax wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:44 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:36 Vivax wrote:
Damdred this is the closest I've seen from you to you posting reads.

On July 08 2014 06:00 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:32 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
[quote]

Cause maybe you'll do something productive. Sleep is overrated

[quote]

[quote]
Because of the above post. Idk. Seemed like a super weird thing to quote and enter the thread on. It's off to me.

[quote]

1. You should be honored. Not making up reads. They each have a basis, and I'll be glad to expand on any of them.
2. See above.
3. Kush is in his IDGAF mode, and I like it. Atleast for day 1. If he keeps going into his idgaf mode, I'd kill him.
4. So my read on batsnacks is more of I always read him wrong, and I actually think he is scummy this game, so I'm flipping that read. Seriously, I've read him as mafia every game we have played together.


I saw something interesting that I wanted to comment on, forgive me for not entering the thread with a hi everyone i got a lot of reading to do lol. I decided to participate with something that was interesting to me someone was giving a few reads and making themselves look like a townie. I don't think this is a good reason for you to dislike me.


Okay, I suppose I get that.

But what about it made it so much more interesting than the rest of the posts that were posted? I don't find really anything interesting in a post that is asking "OH hey guys let me highlight all the things that I think make me town, so let me ask you, does this certain post make me town?"

And your response wasn't the best. So enlighten me.


Sure, my post probably wasn't the best at that point and I was trying to enter the thread and trying to be helpful. So on that note I can see how I could be perceived scum or disliked someone who had been silent up until that point enters thread and tells someone that they are trying to hard to be town. Your right it was badly put and probably a bad post, but I do think that the post reads hey guys i'm a townie.

Why was his post interesting to me instead of the other myriad of posts? Well he had just responded to someone who had said he was acting scummy and then he demonstrated how his post pointed more towards him being town. Can't help what I think is interesting and what I do not. Sometimes you have to grab onto something to engage with in the thread even if you don't come off the best. And I didn't call him scum or a town just gave my opinon on his post.


Okay, thank you for you response.

Can I ask you a few more questions? I've never played with you, and these may help my read on you.

Have you caught up on all the pages?
If so, what do you think of Koshi's posting? Most people say it's trolling and baseless, and could probably put Robik in that category, too. So what do you think of both Robik's and Koshi's posting?

If you have caught up with the thread, can you give me 2 people you would not lynch and 2 people you would, then one sentence explaining each.

Thanks



I have read all of the thread and have tried to keep up to date.

Koshis posting annoyed me a little with the riddles and what not, even though I understand that he was trying to stir up some kind of activity (possibly) from his postings the town does not benefit from random posts that clutter up the thread. However I do think his early postings were trolling and his later ones did add some thought to the thread, Robik's postings have been interesting and he has interacted with the people outside of being random, his overall overreaction to being called scum is note worthy and could be a deflection but i'm not sure.

If I was forced to name a few people that gave me interest at this moment I would go with Forumite, VE. I wouldn't say lynch them, Forumites read early on is a bit odd and his and VE call to get a majority lynch in the first 24 hrs or so troubles me. The more time we have to talk and to pry information from people the better rather than the less time. Even though day 1 is always odd in my opinion and you don't have much to go on its always good to gauge how people react.

I probably wouldn't lynch exo at this point, or toads. Exo has a history of playing aloof and you can never tell much about him day one. And Toads well hes playing pretty out there and drawing some attention to himself, even though its possible hes mafia hes more likely to be checked playing this way and wouldn't work in his favor


If I compare it to how Cora wrote his post Toad found so scummy, where he weighs pro and cons, you state a bunch of things you find odd, among them VE who proposes quick lynches (while he was not the only one,I think prpl did too).

The jist is that here you're saying a lot of stuff but really not anything at all. It's not like you give weight to these things like: "This is scummy, but that is also townie" etc. You just list things that are noteworthy in your opinion but nowhere do I see you trying to draw a conclusion from them, it's more like you only list everything when you say at the same time that it will sort itself out in some way.



Eh, I guess I can see that. Like i've said before though it was in the parameters of the question I was asked, and I was asked to keep it brief so I did. It probably wasn't the best decision based on the few posts I have gotten in response to it as it made me appear scummy I suppose.


Well I hope you won't only post reads when asked cause that's what I've seen of you so far.
Do you think I have some point with Toad or do you stick to your own read.


You do have a point and it is something a mafia would do. I just don't think its good mafia play to bring so much attention to yourself so early

In making these sort of points there is always wifom
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 14:01 GMT
#912
On July 08 2014 22:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 07:11 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 07:09 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 07:09 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 06:54 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 06:46 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Why? Game is looking pretty easy.

How so.

Strong people (aka vets or people I know) are all looking like they want to help town.
The less volume posters are cool guys.
My scumread wants to proof himself.

The downsize is we got 4 0 posters but they will come through. ##Believe.

lol i take it i'm the scum read that wants to proove himself lol gg

Not really.


my apologies then i'll just go take a nap then lol

Open the nested quotes

This is textbook scum
I feel like I should see what you mean, but I don´t. Is it Damdred being nervous without a reason and then go back to lurk?
:3
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 08 2014 14:03 GMT
#913
On July 08 2014 22:52 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 22:44 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:42 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:34 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:28 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:18 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:14 Forumite wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 18:46 prplhz wrote:
i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy.

can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite?

I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable.
On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote:
Heyo.

I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this?

On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads.

Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads?

You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here.

Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place.

Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well?

SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities.

Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that.
I ask prplhz for reads because I want to know what he thinks, why did you think I asked?

Why did you want to know what he thinks? Do you respect his early reads so much that you want to sheep him? Why not ask iamp what he was thinking?

and i dont get why you would post this koshi if you didn't think i was being a leader.

Look at you being smart. Keep going!

There is nothing to go on with. It just shows what you say is trash and shouldn't be listened to.

I would guess your just a misguided townie as you have been too active and drawing a lot of attention.


I meant keep going on with the smartness.

I am not misguided at all btw. Closest guy figuring out the scumteam is without doubt me.
Who´s in the scumteam?

I think it is smarter to keep it to myself for now.
As in: I don't really want to go there yet.
I had a good night of sleep.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 14:03 GMT
#914
All "lol uh yeah lol" into "so sorry about everything"

Hijole
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 14:05 GMT
#915
On July 08 2014 15:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 14:09 Corazon wrote:
How hell-bent are you guys on lynching Forumite? To be honest I can't see myself voting for him. Many of his actions and statements so far (such as his meta-read on Prp and his statement that he can't read Toad objectively once Toad started attacking him) are statements/decisions that I myself would probably do as town. Thinking about it, that could explain why he's been under so much pressure...

Has he really been the scummiest player in the thread so far?

Why are you not considering yourself among the decision-makers in town? Why are you asking us if he's been the scummiest player? Why don't YOU tell US who the scummiest player is if you disagree that it's Forumite?

I'd still be totally up to lynch Cora instead. That post you just quoted was awful on so many levels and gives me the shivers...
Catching up o/
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21976 Posts
July 08 2014 14:07 GMT
#916
Toad can you link me to the invitational game you were talking about earlier.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 08 2014 14:09 GMT
#917
On July 08 2014 23:07 Vivax wrote:
Toad can you link me to the invitational game you were talking about earlier.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/439137-shadow-mini-mafia
I had a good night of sleep.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 08 2014 14:13 GMT
#918
On July 08 2014 16:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meh - one is begging for attention though and one is not. Robik just being openly abrasive and calling everyone out isn't really sound mafia strategy to say the least. I get what you're saying though, they both don't give you much to go by.

VE admitting he's not reading the thread.
I've given more than anyone this game.
People who say that I am not giving any justification for my reads are lying, and frankly, they seem to show that they don't care what my reads are because not a single person who has accused me of not giving reads has actually asked me for my explanations. They're just spouting BS
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 08 2014 14:15 GMT
#919
Good idea.

Robik can you give me the names of people you think are scum currently?
I had a good night of sleep.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 14:16 GMT
#920
Faugh
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
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