• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:50
CEST 18:50
KST 01:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202550RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16
Community News
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams5Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension4
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing RSL Season 1 - Final Week
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava
Brood War
General
[Update] ShieldBattery: 1v1 Fastest Support! BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams Ginuda's JaeDong Interview Series
Tourneys
CSL Xiamen International Invitational [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Post Pic of your Favorite Food! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1002 users

TL Mafia LXVII: Storm Mafia 2 - Page 4

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 12 13 14 Next All
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 17:58 GMT
#1059
So checked out sasami-san episode 1 because emnjay told me to watch it and because it has Kana Asumi and Chiwa Saito, right?

Long story short, it's from shaft so I'm going to like it at least to some degree. Kana Asumi not quirky at all and instead voicing some melancholic girl is a downside. The episode was creepy as fuck and I have no idea what happened even now that I finished it. Animation was weird. Not in a bad way but not in a madoka-omg-this-looks-amazing either. Other than that... idk really what to make of it.
Doesn't look like something I'll enjoy all THAT much but it seems to be watchable.
The big brother is mighty annoying and the supernatural aspect certainly helps to make it a bit interesting
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 17:59 GMT
#1060
wrong thread:
On July 09 2014 02:58 Toadesstern wrote:
mmmh, talking about lynching iamp because he''s supposedly bussing ObiWan really doesn't make any sense before seeing ObiWan flipped...
So no way I'm lynching that, especially if that's all there is to him

wanted to post that in here...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 18:07 GMT
#1067
how about you guys answer each others question in a straight way instead of this question mark parade
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 18:46 GMT
#1082
On July 09 2014 03:19 Koshi wrote:
So there are 8 people on Forumite. Interesting.

Let's all talk about iamperfection for a while.
This is the awesome case foolishness made against iamp in catastrophe mafia. (go to iamperfection no so perfect section).

I already brought this up before but iamp is playing the same style he was playing in the Catastrophe game. This time he isn't utterly useless but he is pretty close. Maybe I can post 2-3 posts iamp made that are somewhat pushing the thread forward but that's really it. Robik townreads iamp for being firm early game, calling out my bullshit post, which was obviously just a conversation starter. Quite obviously so. Vivax townreads iamp because iamp is a bossy guy calling people doing dumb things out on their dumb things.
I agree iamp has called out some people out doing silly things. But really? Is that why we are giving the most experienced player in this thread a townread for? Are we really so easily pleased? Come on lads. Look at this:
Show nested quote +
"iamperfection is one of the best examples of that this game," reports Foolishness. "His attempt to get people onto Balla24/Blazinghand is the most convenient case in the world. If you're mafia in a game, wouldn't you just love it if some idiot is proposing random lynch? You get to call him an idiot AND look town for doing so!"

↑ So yeah, iamp calls out dumb behavior. Good for him! But what does he do with it? What reasoning does he give when saying Kush should stop his stupid crusade? What reasoning did he give for making Robik unlynchable till D6? I am not impressed. You shouldn't be either.

Going on: ↓
Show nested quote +
Despite all that, iamperfection has yet to post a real read on a player or situation. The filter demonstrates that he doesn't have any true scumreads other than the easy picking Blazinghand and only has a few haphazard town reads. Secondly, iamperfection is making demands of the town without doing so himself.

Is iamp posting reads this game? Do you see the overflowing quality this veteran player brings us? I don't. The guy makes the excuse to do nothing till ObiwanShinobi enters the thread, when ObiwanShinobi enters the thread iamp doesn't do anything but asks that ObiwanShinobi pleases him. He doesn't ask any specific questions. Why is Obiwan so special for iamp? Why can't iamp do nothing for multiple hours while waiting on Obiwan?

Read the entire Foolishness case. Then see how much of it applies to this game. It is scary much. Do you also remember that I asked 27ninjabunnies what the 3 biggest discussion points where this game? Now look at how much iamperfection participated in these 3 topics. Close to fucking nothing.

##unvote
##vote iamperfection



This lynch is glorious.

I actually like this a lot. I wasn't so sure about this because in my head he's always posting like that so I went to look up some other games he had as town recently because I haven't played in a year and I could always just be wrong.

As town he looks almost the same BUT he does produce good posts inbetween, posts that actually do something and posts that actually aren't just random 1 or 2 lines. He still does those 1 to 2 liners all the time but he's certainly got more good posts as town. Examples:
TL Noir:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 25 2013 09:11 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 09:09 Mocsta wrote:
On September 25 2013 09:08 iamperfection wrote:
is cephiro in the game or did he get replaced?

He's here. As is the Mattchew case.

Gigogogo!

as in you want a peek on my notes i guess i can oblige

27: Mattchew-scum Terrible response to the pressure that has come to him. Seems like he has decided to use this cycle to just calling marv scum without putting any effort in to convince people why or to dow ell anything really. Seems to have resigned to his fate http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=149#2977 and dosnt want to try to convince anyone of anything. The spotlight is on him and he has crumbuled. mocs case has merit i specfically like his points about his approach to stutters. dont really care for the voice mafia junk but mattchew's actions since the case make me strongly believe he is scum

On September 25 2013 11:55 iamperfection wrote:
1: DarthPunk/sb-
town because dp being a little bitch about people calling him scum and then replacing out because of it means he is extremely likely to be town. Plus he was pretty active and in the spotlight day one anyways.

2: raynpelikoneet-
town his most recent push on firm while misguides seemed legit at least and looked like he was at least trying to figure out alignments and overall good activity and seems to have been one of the major players. He is good as scum but i think he has been legit and real in his posts.

5: yamato77-
town he just is plus he got protected and he wouldnt lie about that. Also was active before that

6: kushm4sta-
dont know. Rember the days when he used to be meiocore at this game. Now it seems like he spends his time just bithcing and moaning.

8: ObviousOne-
annoying but seems to have a matter fact way of not wanting to explain himself. bad but likely town.

10: FirmTofu-
Town This kid is town he has explained himself over and over agains hasnt really been afraid of the spotlight. Also has used his time to contribute in the right way with pushing see umasi instead of just defending himself this is what you do as town when you have pressure on you. you give your reads and your thoughts regardless of the pressure you dont complain. He is town

11: Pandain-
his sent push seems legit and seems to have some of the same reasoning i have. If he is thinking like means he is probally town. needs more actvity.

12: Cephiro-
seems to be always catching up for some reason and his last catching up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=133#2647 he promised to be a good townie going forward he didnt do shit. honestly i dont really know but fuck it ill say scum because fuck him.

13: Mr. Cheesecake-
im excused from reading him because i hate him. he will probally at some point afk from this game and be active somewhere else on tl.

14: decondu-
confused about why yamato was town would likely know his scum team shot yamato so slight indication he might be town i dont feel strong about need to see more from him.

15: Coagulation-
town no reason to not belive he is the vig with his and yamtos claims

16: Stutters695-
martyer hate that shit but who knows probally bad town though

17: iamperfection-
IC

18: Zenatsu/molango-
a double lurker. A sure sign of the apoclypse.

19: [UoN]Sentinel-
scum this is bad http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=45#888 it was just a long excuse to vote coag for no real reason listing lurkers is even worse than lurkers because it a way to look like your contributing . so is this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=85#1699 say absoloutly nothing on a major topic while sudetly supporting it and then when he votes for him hes not very clear on why he is scum just he has regressed from an earlier game. He has given some decent reasoning for some his thoughts later on so he isnt my strongest scum read but that day 1 still reads as scum.

20: VisceraEyes-
I dont really understand his existential crisis that he all of sudden for no real good reason but i dont see the scum motivation. Like he didnt use it as an excuse to not talk about the game as he is still talking so i would say town on him. has been generally active and talking about the game. His thinking that it may be possible both coag and yamato could be scum is kind of ridiclous as in to ridiclous to come from scum.

22: geript-
scum his biggest contribution for the entire game was to tunnel dp and make him rage quit. outside of that the rest of his day one was useless and hasnt done anything this cycle scum

23: Risen-
i dont fucking know hasnt really done anything could be scum in fact i would say leaning scum

24: LoneMeow-
dont know: calling stuff wierd but not scummy here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=35#690 scum do that because they dont have the balls to actually call someone scum. fucking martyer. suspicious of umasi though gives me pause might be super bad town. plus these days people who martyer have kind of been flipping town unfortunatly.

25: marvellosity-
Town seems active and intrested i will say town and improve my record of reading him almost always correctly. seems to have setled into the role of town leader.

26: Zaragon-
scum played the im a newbie card kind of wierd that he would go after ve as scum but in effect his vote was wasted and did nothing of vlaue. Says stuff like this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=87#1721 says sent isnt great case but leaning scum????????? dont know what that means. and wants to say im not sure it seems a lot and never really reaches solid conlusions that much.

27: Mattchew-
scum Terrible response to the pressure that has come to him. Seems like he has decided to use this cycle to just calling marv scum without putting any effort in to convince people why or to dow ell anything really. Seems to have resigned to his fate http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=149#2977 and dosnt want to try to convince anyone of anything. The spotlight is on him and he has crumbuled. mocs case has merit i specfically like his points about his approach to stutters. dont really care for the voice mafia junk but mattchew's actions since the case make me strongly believe he is scum

Umasi-scumi will give credit to firmtofu here i think he made solid point here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=151#3011 hes scum for that i would say

29: justanothertownie- was going to stay up to see my post +1 for eagerly awaiting iamperfection posts. outside of that he hasnt done a ton and hasnt had strong reads but seems to be self aware of that fact in a matter of fact way. My gut would say town.

30: Mocsta-towni like his case been active extremely likely town i would say efort etc....

On September 25 2013 22:53 iamperfection wrote:
mattchews defense looks real i would say town on him plus it wasnt just defense he gave some reads and seems like he is trying to put 2 and 2 together.

Cephiro lynch would be ok maybe like 55 60 percent. Shity way for him to play as scum but i could definitely see a scum using his constant ill totes contribute later and just never do it.

panda bear guy im not so hot on for his lynch. Basically it isnt super clear who he wants to lynch the most right now even though he said he aims to do that today. like with mattchews defense i don't really know who i want to lynch either so i don't think that's a smoking gun. best course of action would be just to see what he does today.





GoT:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 08 2013 23:10 iamperfection wrote:
like i dont know where your going with this acro like i said to you in pm about
xatlos
------------------------------------
i will tell you this

1. he put himself out for lord first of any of us

2. Has been very active in pms

3. aggressive towards grack

I would say those would points would indicate him more likely to be town
On August 09 2013 10:32 iamperfection wrote:
This message is for everyone. We are simply not lynching ryan or acro under any circumstances this cycle and i want your help to find the true scum in this game. Regardless of what you think of the two their activity alone makes them not the best chance to lynch scum. We all know that scum tend b e less active than town and like to lurk in the shadows. This biting each others heads off serves no purpose but to create an atmospher not productive to town because it allows to lurkers to continue to lurk and the scum along with them.

I want to know have nonposters in your house been active in pms. Gumshoe has contacted me stating that he will be on later and as of yet still hasnt posted. I havent heard from grack to last night. I want to know if any non posters are in contact with you and if you have suspicion of them from their n0 commitment and recent pms. regardless if they are pm'ing you i want to know why they arent posting in the thread. IE ( Sharrant is in contact with you but isnt posting in the thread acro)

these are the pieces of shit that come to mind

FirmTofu- Decided to complain about activity and did nothing else

Gumshoe- Had a good feeling from pms that he was town but is mia

Grack- Mia since last night

Kush- Non contributer who i want kp directed at because he can contribute as town and isnt

nacho- non poster and i havent heard anything about his pms

Sharrant- as stated before
On August 09 2013 22:34 iamperfection wrote:
totes town

Dandelion[green]- Been active with his thoughts interested in the game had a same thought as me when calling out a weak post as s&b. I will eat my hat if he is scum

Xatols- Active making logical conclusions in both pms and in thread

Oatsmaster- Shit up the thread with yamato putting the spotlight on both of them. Has put his thought in actively since then as well.

weaker town reads.

[green]Risen Lol worst analysis that i have ever seen in a game for such a long post but seems like quite the commitment for scum to make.

ClarityNl Was under a ton of pressure for the leak the name stuff. For someone who was under so much pressure he was able to explain himself fairly well and didnt run away. I think if he were scum he would have had much more difficulty.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
scum city



Vivax Vivax is a player that can contribute a lot as town and can even catch scum. He has done next to nothing in this game and seems like a guy just going with the flow and not sharing his thought process or actively trying to hunt like he usally does. Vivax should be one of the leaders of this town and he is not doing it for whatever reason.

this post is wierd http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047&currentpage=47#939
Why is he not actively giving his thoughts and he actually never gives thoughts just asks a useless question.

and my f5 snipe just caught this
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 22:16 Vivax wrote:
On August 09 2013 05:28 Acrofales wrote:
Hrmmm, playing a game of elimination, Vivax is the remaining member of House Stark.

On August 09 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only.

Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural.


Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere.

On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote:
Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it:

On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.


koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno.
Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far.

1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit".
2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20.
3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread.
4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice.

Here is my first real scumread.


This is not concise reasoning for Oats being scum, The first two don't seem relevant, and I'm not sure that he's calling you scum just for 3).
4 is him being an ass to you, isn't necessarily alignment indicative.

Do you really think he's scum for those reasons? To me it looks like you're angry at him and calling him scum for that. If you think he's scum then I want to see a clear line of thought in reaching that conclusion.

I would like to see any reasons you have for your scumreads to be presented in a concise case with no waffle, especially with material from the thread that's available to everyone. I'm not willing to take anything you and Dandel say regarding lies and inconsistencies during the night at face value until there are members of your house to present their version of events between you two.


This seems like a really strange soft-defense of Oatsmaster. Either he was completely oblivious to the goings on in his own house, or he had a town read based on that. I am confused about why he stood up to defend Oatsmaster's honor: he's not calling Koshi scum based on it, in fact there are no conclusions at all. With the knowledge that he had already talked to Oats in private this just looks like a baseless soft-defense of a house member who it seems he should have been suspicious of.

Anybody from House Stark (or Vivax himself) want to elaborate on Vivax's role in the internal politicking? Vivax, why did you make this soft-defense post of Oats?


I'm not sure how you call it a soft defense when I was curious about Koshi's rather faulty reasoning for calling Oats scum. Is it a soft defense of the guy attacked by a case when you suspect the maker of the case?
I'll be blunt about Oats, I have no reason to think he's scum at the moment.

I still have to catch up a good bit, and I'm interested into knowing the points of view of the lords, or if you were so nice to point it out quickly, where it has been posted. Who are the lords' targets? Which lords are trying to push their preferences the most? How will you reach an agreement?


@ Oberyn

On August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.

Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord?


I feel your interest into Dandel ebbed out very quickly, I'm curious to hear about the development of your read so far. With Acrofales entering the scene Dandel seemed to be forgotten for you (you mention him when questioning s0lstice's read, but you don't push him, or confront him with questions), although you called his behaviour out as extremely scummy.

Another matter I would want to know about is your judgment on Koshi. You like to mention Dandel frequently and acknowledged that Koshi might have been overreacting but I didn't see a judgment on Koshi yet from you. I for one am still suspicious of his attack on Oats and his inactivity at the moment.

That said, it would be interesting to know who the lords are considering for kp-lynch. An agreement is needed soon.

Where are vivaxs thoughts all he says is he is intrested to hear what other people are doing. Vivax is usally the one pushing for what he wants. I think vivax has a high probability of flipping scum.

Kush He can spontaneously combust for all i care

Gumshoe Weak but he bothered to contact me and hasn't posted why the fuck would he do that

Sharrant Same as gum but with acro instead of me


Even just from a pure "how much text he's willing to post I can't find anything like that in catastrophe nor in this one
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 18:56 GMT
#1087
guys you should be voting IamP while I hold the grip around forumite's neck up
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 19:02 GMT
#1090
On July 09 2014 03:59 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 03:56 Toadesstern wrote:
guys you should be voting IamP while I hold the grip around forumite's neck up

No. iamp is my bro. And I think he's town.

He basically gave himself an excuse to lurk before the game started, and he's been the 2nd most active person in the game. This is a huge town tell. Plus, he seems to push the idea forward that I am town (which is correct), so I'd like to keep him around until someone proves that I'm wrong about him.

THANKS!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082

That's pretty fucking convincing if you actually go take a look through his other games. Arguable he only had catastrophe as mafia recently so the sample size is quite scarce if you don't want to go back to 2012 when he just posted different all in all.

But the difference in willingness to put something forth is there. He isn't the 2nd most active person in the game and he's only been posting 1liners or 2liners. No "here's what I think and why people need to die" no nothing.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 19:04 GMT
#1091
linked my posts because Koshi's post is in there too, you need to read that as well. My post focuses on highlighting the difference to his town play rather than just saying what's so weird about him. Read both posts, read the post from foolishness that Koshi linked as well and try to look up his recent games.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 21:29 GMT
#1129
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 21:38 GMT
#1138
On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

What´s the case on iamp?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082

Koshis post in there and what I wrote in addition when I looked at his town games to doublecheck that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 22:03 GMT
#1147
Did you think about the possibility that the whole "I want to keep my grip around forumits neck" thing is a mix of me joking on the day Germany is/was playing Brazil while I'm buisy because of that and not wanting to have some other random guy get lynched before we have votes on you while I unvote forumite?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 22:15 GMT
#1157
On July 09 2014 07:07 iamperfection wrote:
What do you think of my point on sloosh toad?

doesn't sound like something malicious at all. Sounds like him trying to explain what he agrees with and yes, that's going to be rehashed stuff.

But I'm afk / off for now
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 09 2014 14:30 GMT
#1449
Okay still catching up from yesterday. So basicly here's what I think with 12-16 hours delay:

I think my case on forumite is really good.
I think the case from Koshi on IamP, and the back-up from me to prove it from the other side as well and showing his towngames is really good.
I thought ObiWan makes for a good lurkerlynch if we want to lynch a lurker. I'm saying "thought" not because that has changed but exactly because it hasn't changed at all. It's still the exact same thought as last time I mentioned it without rereading him or rethinking about what he posted or taking into considartion what he might have done afterwards. So that last one is to be taken with a grain of salt.

So those are the three options we have in my mind. There might be someone else when I'm done catching up but from an as objective point of view as possible I've got to say that IamP looks like the best lynch. Strictly from a feelings point of view it does feel better to know that it's not just confirmation bias because Koshi was the one who first did the case, everyone ignored it until I quoted it, added something and said that's really good. Even then people still ignored it, later on sloosh and forumite agreed (well foru had to because the other option is him, so screw that) as well but it went still largely unnoticed. HOWEVER it is something that I can say that I agree with without it being from me. With the forumite case it could always be the case that I like it because I'm delusional just because I wrote it

On top of that the one big post IamP did is the textbook definition of "I don't believe that post one bit". So I went ahead and just checked it out. The guy has me as mafiaread because of some random thing that was obviously a joke and NOTHING ELSE. He has cora as mafia, the guy I pushed quite early myself, sitting right next to me. The reason he's got cora down is because he's complaining more than doing anything, which can be said about 50% of this thread to be frank AND because he didn't like his first post. Mmmmmh, his first post? Oh right, that's the one big post that I covered in red and IamP went ahead and agreed with me. Funny, isn't it?

All in all, the entire post just screams "I have to get something done" and I bet you VE balls that it was done very promptly when either he realized that he has to do a big post or one of his buddies told him to post something big. The post is big but it is completly done on the fly without thoughts behind it.

IamP dies today
inb4 someone claimed scum in the last 15 pages and my dramatic speech is all for naught

#vote Iamp

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 09 2014 15:10 GMT
#1526
forumite testing my faith... I want to lynch IamP but damn that random unvote and revote with "I really don't like it" after saying the lynch is between him and iamp looks so damn delicious
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 09 2014 15:13 GMT
#1534
On July 10 2014 00:11 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 00:10 Toadesstern wrote:
forumite testing my faith... I want to lynch IamP but damn that random unvote and revote with "I really don't like it" after saying the lynch is between him and iamp looks so damn delicious

I noticed that too and threw up a little in my mouth

let's just hope they're both mafia and it makes sense that way o/
No need to overthink things when I can't figure out which way it is anyways...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 09 2014 15:15 GMT
#1541
On July 10 2014 00:12 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 00:10 Toadesstern wrote:
forumite testing my faith... I want to lynch IamP but damn that random unvote and revote with "I really don't like it" after saying the lynch is between him and iamp looks so damn delicious
Funny.

I did it because of Robiks reaction. What do you think about his defence of iamp?

I honestly don't give a crap about what he thinks about Iamp.

Sorry Robik, but you really need to cool off your head. I can't possibly trust someone who's got foam around his mouth while telling me what to do.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 09 2014 15:17 GMT
#1547
On July 10 2014 00:15 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 00:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:10 Toadesstern wrote:
forumite testing my faith... I want to lynch IamP but damn that random unvote and revote with "I really don't like it" after saying the lynch is between him and iamp looks so damn delicious

I noticed that too and threw up a little in my mouth

let's just hope they're both mafia and it makes sense that way o/
No need to overthink things when I can't figure out which way it is anyways...

Toades, what do you think about robik defending iamp?

he's emotional, he doesn't make sense while doing it and it all comes down to his innitial read that he doesn't want to give up on.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 09 2014 15:26 GMT
#1556
On July 10 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 00:17 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:15 Forumite wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:10 Toadesstern wrote:
forumite testing my faith... I want to lynch IamP but damn that random unvote and revote with "I really don't like it" after saying the lynch is between him and iamp looks so damn delicious

I noticed that too and threw up a little in my mouth

let's just hope they're both mafia and it makes sense that way o/
No need to overthink things when I can't figure out which way it is anyways...

Toades, what do you think about robik defending iamp?

he's emotional, he doesn't make sense while doing it and it all comes down to his innitial read that he doesn't want to give up on.

Give me a point by point case on why iamp is mafia besides "phil made a case on him one game"

I'm heading out for some shopping right now so it's going to be short
  • the case DOES fit
  • he's a lot more involved in his towngames, as already pointed out when I quoted and responded to the case, as opposed to this game
  • he's involved in a way where he does something himself without being poked to death about it until it happens
  • the one post he did was horrible and made on the fly without thinking about it


See you in about an hour
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 09 2014 15:35 GMT
#1570
On July 10 2014 00:30 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 00:29 Vivax wrote:
The thing bothering me about iamp is just the timing of that reads post.
It came right after Toad pointed out how he made similar posts in other games where he was town.
Which made me think he could have made it just for the purpose of appearing town.

Anyway still need to finish a few pages.

i had planed on it anyways i do it all my games and have even done it in a scum game.


maybe in a scumgame that was 2 years ago, it sure as hell didn't happen in catastrophe and the ones in your towngames looked an awful lot better.
Like I said, the one you did this game looked like someone told you you have to make one, or you thought you have to make one and hastily put one together. Not convinced by that at all. And that's your only post you've done this game for what I'm concerned.
In your towngames you even have multiple of those and they all look better.

But really off now
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 09 2014 16:08 GMT
#1590
On July 10 2014 00:37 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 00:35 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:30 iamperfection wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:29 Vivax wrote:
The thing bothering me about iamp is just the timing of that reads post.
It came right after Toad pointed out how he made similar posts in other games where he was town.
Which made me think he could have made it just for the purpose of appearing town.

Anyway still need to finish a few pages.

i had planed on it anyways i do it all my games and have even done it in a scum game.


maybe in a scumgame that was 2 years ago, it sure as hell didn't happen in catastrophe and the ones in your towngames looked an awful lot better.
Like I said, the one you did this game looked like someone told you you have to make one, or you thought you have to make one and hastily put one together. Not convinced by that at all. And that's your only post you've done this game for what I'm concerned.
In your towngames you even have multiple of those and they all look better.

But really off now

that would point to me being town. If you have to jump through hoops to keep a read its probally wrong. The easiest explanation is usually the right one. You not seeing this is huge red flag too. ITS DAY ONE OF COURSE IM NOT GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLES OF THEM.

it would point to you being town under 2 conditions:
1) you put some effort into that post because like you said you even did it in a scumgame as well
2) you making that post before people pointing it out in cycle that basicly is 3 days

Neither of those 2 are given. I'm not going to give you towncred for doing what I told you to do, to look like your usual town self, which you then went on to do in a very sloppy and poor way...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 09 2014 16:17 GMT
#1603
Okay so long story short, I put pressure on all 3 of IamP/Foru/Cora and I'd be fine lynching all 3 of them to some degree but IamP and Foru are so vastly superior lynches to Cora that I don't even know what's going on.

It's between those 2 right now.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Esports World Cup
10:00
2025 - Day 3
Clem vs ClassicLIVE!
EWC_Arena14128
ComeBackTV 3339
TaKeTV 723
JimRising 595
Hui .487
3DClanTV 357
Rex218
EnkiAlexander 202
mcanning190
CranKy Ducklings133
SpeCial100
Reynor86
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
EWC_Arena14128
JimRising 595
Hui .487
Rex 218
mcanning 190
UpATreeSC 130
SpeCial 100
Reynor 86
ProTech27
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 3189
Flash 1695
Sea 1628
BeSt 1591
Mini 1001
TY 911
Soma 393
ZerO 386
Soulkey 317
Stork 275
[ Show more ]
Pusan 100
Light 96
Mind 95
Larva 91
actioN 73
zelot 40
sorry 38
sas.Sziky 34
JYJ29
Movie 27
Sacsri 22
soO 20
yabsab 14
Terrorterran 14
IntoTheRainbow 11
scan(afreeca) 10
Dota 2
Gorgc4714
qojqva1669
420jenkins403
syndereN394
XcaliburYe181
League of Legends
Dendi980
Counter-Strike
fl0m4177
sgares350
markeloff99
oskar77
edward62
Other Games
FrodaN2287
hiko936
Beastyqt897
B2W.Neo643
KnowMe147
QueenE68
Trikslyr67
ArmadaUGS64
ZerO(Twitch)19
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV18
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 25
• FirePhoenix6
• Michael_bg 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Stormgate
• mYiSmile10
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3393
• masondota21002
League of Legends
• Jankos1929
Other Games
• Shiphtur305
Upcoming Events
Esports World Cup
18h 10m
Serral vs Cure
OSC
21h 10m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 17h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 21h
CSO Cup
1d 23h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
FEL
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.