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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 01:35 GMT
#2041
On July 11 2014 10:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe I prefer a Forumite lynch today. Maybe layabout CAN manipulate me.

##Unvote
##Vote: Forumite

I like my BM vote until he starts explaining
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:36 GMT
#2042
but ninjabunnies was 3p so it couldn't be a bus
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 11 2014 01:38 GMT
#2043
So I voted
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 11 2014 01:38 GMT
#2044
On July 09 2014 16:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
oh btw why isnt bm playing anything like he did over in order?

like he isnt posting at all and its weird. he was super fucking town that game but hes not even around this time.

On July 09 2014 16:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 16:25 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 16:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
depends on what you give me in return.

Anything you want but anal.



Could you give reads on these people? Try to say smart things. You don't need to do but any1 would help.

HaruRH, ritoky, Bill Murray, HiroPro, layabout, kushm4sta, Alakaslam, batsnacks


well, if not anal, then im sure we can figure something out. we can work out a barter system.

ritoky, hiro, layabout, and slam are all null. some people have pointed out that ritoky is forced, and i agree, but i do think that its really early to be forming some kind of read on him at this stage because people call him weird for the exact same reason every game.

haru's last couple of posts have been good, so i think hes town. i dont get why he makes excuses for not being good on day 1, because his day 1 seems pretty strong. agree/disagree?

bm is playing nothing like he did in order. he was supertown then but he's getting away with the bare minimum now. he was suggesting policy lynches on people who werent playing (kinda like what cora is doing) but hes kinda hiding amongst those people now.

ill probably filter dive kush and bats at some point. i remember kush being towny and bats having a shitty opening but thats it.

On July 10 2014 01:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
nb the reason nobody is listening to your ritoky case is because the ritoky case ends up being the exact same thing people push him for every game.

it hasnt changed and its still silly, and you might be scum for thinking that its good.

Ehh like this makes me hesitant on a BM lynch and more enthused of a ritoky lynch. What do you guys make of it?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 11 2014 01:40 GMT
#2045
That's weird. He said this twice:

OBIWAN SAID:
"
some people have pointed out that ritoky is forced, and i agree, but i do think that its really early to be forming some kind of read on him at this stage because people call him weird for the exact same reason every game.
"

"
nb the reason nobody is listening to your ritoky case is because the ritoky case ends up being the exact same thing people push him for every game.
"
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 01:44 GMT
#2046
I don't think ritoky needed defending yesterday from a mafias point of view at all. It was between IamP and forumite and he could have easily ignored the ritoky case (assuming ritoky is mafia) or done whatever the fuck he wants because ritoky wasn't going to get lynched anyways.

If anything what I'm reading from that is that he wanted to go with the crowd and put some pseudo reasoning behind his iamp-vote by stating that alternatives are stupid.

The BM part however is interesting
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 11 2014 01:45 GMT
#2047
Also to get some more feedback on my thoughts

D1 felt like very little scum manipulation was involved. Koshi Toad and I started the iamp wagon, and drummed up support and people hopped on. I think generally scum team got lazy and played very passively, just posting to avoid attention but not active in town direction.

So from scum team perspective how I would have tried to approach D2 is point out people on the iamp wagon as being scummy / opportunistic. Which a couple of people have done. ritoky pointing out yamato, hiropro pointing out VE, uhh ... mderg pointing out yamato / VE sort of. Not that this necessarily makes them scum, but it's where I would look.

But then N1 blows up their plans since ObiWanShinobi flips town and yamato and VE look real good, and now they don't know what to do or say and they have like no thread presence.

In conclusion: I wanna kill all the lurkers cause it's most likely scum are in there.

At least, that's my interpretation of the game so far.

Uhh I need to reread Forumite to see if town atmosphere felt similar or different to his wagon vs. iamp wagon. Yes, I will do that after a nap.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:45 GMT
#2048
i am not worried about ritoky right now

the most valuable things from obi's flip in my eyes are the things people said about him and this list:
obiwanshinobi (3): prplhz, exo_, yamato77

*green colour is potentially subject to change although unlikely to
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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 11 2014 01:47 GMT
#2049
Ritoky, did you -really- make pie? Or were you just saying that?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 11 2014 01:49 GMT
#2050
On July 11 2014 10:40 batsnacks wrote:
That's weird. He said this twice:

OBIWAN SAID:
"
some people have pointed out that ritoky is forced, and i agree, but i do think that its really early to be forming some kind of read on him at this stage because people call him weird for the exact same reason every game.
"

"
nb the reason nobody is listening to your ritoky case is because the ritoky case ends up being the exact same thing people push him for every game.
"

Hey bats, you can use the "quote" function (found top right corner of posts) to get instant formatted timestamped quotes, just so you know.

You've played with the group right? Could you give me a general feels of ritoky, and if what obiwan said is legitimately something that happens or not?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 11 2014 01:49 GMT
#2051
batsnacks seemed to have more actual input last game, whoever misguided
Writer@WriterYamato
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 01:52 GMT
#2052
On July 11 2014 10:45 slOosh wrote:
Also to get some more feedback on my thoughts

D1 felt like very little scum manipulation was involved. Koshi Toad and I started the iamp wagon, and drummed up support and people hopped on. I think generally scum team got lazy and played very passively, just posting to avoid attention but not active in town direction.

So from scum team perspective how I would have tried to approach D2 is point out people on the iamp wagon as being scummy / opportunistic. Which a couple of people have done. ritoky pointing out yamato, hiropro pointing out VE, uhh ... mderg pointing out yamato / VE sort of. Not that this necessarily makes them scum, but it's where I would look.

But then N1 blows up their plans since ObiWanShinobi flips town and yamato and VE look real good, and now they don't know what to do or say and they have like no thread presence.

In conclusion: I wanna kill all the lurkers cause it's most likely scum are in there.

At least, that's my interpretation of the game so far.

Uhh I need to reread Forumite to see if town atmosphere felt similar or different to his wagon vs. iamp wagon. Yes, I will do that after a nap.

yeah agree. It does support the "there's bound to be mafia in the non-iamp voters who just parked their vote doing nothing all day long"-thesis.
BM looks bad that way, damdred looks bad, mderg looks reasonably bad if I can trust you guys without reading about him.
At the same time we know that bunnies and ExO aren't mafia. The first one for sure, the 2nd one pretty unlikely to be mafia
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 11 2014 01:54 GMT
#2053
On July 11 2014 10:49 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 10:40 batsnacks wrote:
That's weird. He said this twice:

OBIWAN SAID:
"
some people have pointed out that ritoky is forced, and i agree, but i do think that its really early to be forming some kind of read on him at this stage because people call him weird for the exact same reason every game.
"

"
nb the reason nobody is listening to your ritoky case is because the ritoky case ends up being the exact same thing people push him for every game.
"

Hey bats, you can use the "quote" function (found top right corner of posts) to get instant formatted timestamped quotes, just so you know.

You've played with the group right? Could you give me a general feels of ritoky, and if what obiwan said is legitimately something that happens or not?


I'm posting on a mobile device and multiple quotes are more difficult than their worth.

I played with Obiwan in Order and Cell mafia (at least I think he was in Cell mafia) and his game was pretty much identical to here. He lurks and randomly chimes in with some aloof comments.

Ritoky was more active in Order and Cell. In cell he was trolly but not in a bad way it worked great. In Lrder he got frustrated and fake claimed cop and it was a huge disaster.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 11 2014 01:57 GMT
#2054
Like "brash" is a good word for how I'd describe Ritoky's town meta, the two games I've played with him.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 11 2014 02:05 GMT
#2055
On July 11 2014 10:49 yamato77 wrote:
batsnacks seemed to have more actual input last game, whoever misguided


The school I work at is getting tablets (400 iPads) for the students this year and I'm handling the entire deployment by myself. This has been about an 80 hour week for me trying to get this finished before school starts in August.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 11 2014 02:07 GMT
#2056
On July 11 2014 10:47 batsnacks wrote:
Ritoky, did you -really- make pie? Or were you just saying that?


yeah i made pie, i had my wisdom teeth pulled the following day, so i was making pie for myself as a last day hoorah before i couldn't eat solid food for a week or so.

reading the thread now, been sleeping a lot cuz strong pain meds can do that to ya
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 11 2014 02:08 GMT
#2057
I dunno if it's b/c layabout said so, but I am less enthused of a ritoky lynch. He has been suspicious of yamato from the start of the game so his progressive read into yamato is scum at N1 makes sense.

My choice of lynch right now would be HiroPro for this post:
On July 10 2014 11:04 HiroPro wrote:
sup. I read the thread.

anyway, I think you guys are missing the boat on VE. I'm more interested in how VE went from saying that he wasn't interested in lynching anyone who was active to lynching the second-most active player in this game (iamperfection). The reasons that he gave don't appear very strong at all and he only said anything about the guy when sloosh prompted him to.

The entry read very out of place for me. We had like a super long D1 ending in a mislynch, and he casually saunters in with his 2nd post of the whole game, and says he read the thread. This is a feels read. I dunno how accurate my feels are but that's where they are.

His read on VE fits in with my evaluation of how the game has been unfolding, and just generally for someone who has been absent for close to a hundred pages or so, he isn't really trying to do much.

Scum skirting by kinda attitude.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 11 2014 02:12 GMT
#2058
Ehh maybe it's just mderg for not instantly realizing that VE voted ObiWanShinobi and is super unlikely to be scum.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 02:13 GMT
#2059
a case on yamato is a case against town values
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 11 2014 02:15 GMT
#2060
On July 10 2014 23:06 Palmar wrote:


ObiWanShinobi the Mafia Janitor is dead
Janitor

When someone needs to not only die, but disappear, you are the man for the job. Feeding victims to pigs is just monday in your world.

Twice in the game you can send in the name of a player. You will kill that player, and his body will mysteriously disappear. The target will not flip.

You win when the mafia can not be stopped.

You are also able to deliver one mafia KP per night, in addition to your abilities.


We aren't allowed to ask questions to the mod in the thread, but the way this is worded is disturbing to me. Cuz normal janitor has the body flip but it flips as ??????. This says the person mysteriously disappears and will not flip. So uhhhh, does that mean someone could be dead in the game right now and we don't know about it?

If that's the case I might just systematically start voting on every single person in the game, wait for a vote count to confirm they are alive, then move to the next person.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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