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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 00:35 GMT
#2021
On July 11 2014 09:28 Toadesstern wrote:
well I quoted the thing about 30-40 minutes after he posted his claim inbetween a dotagame so I don't think calling it "ignoring me" is really possible. Probably him not being around anymore, or at least that's what it looks like.

Pretty sure I would have continued pressuring it hard had he ignored it and brought attention to it had people spammed it away... Now I'm forced to consider whatever kind of bullshit reason he brings to the table at facevalue and consider it a null

Yes thread more readable, but a possible scumslip made useless... whatever no point in whining about spilled milk
Out of game info shrug

I can think of two things which would make it valid as town, it could be a poorly thought out move by scum but if it was as soon as any attention was drawn to it he would start to act careful anyway

At the moment i can't call forumite town in any way and i like everyone that was on his wagon. I think a forumite lynch should be on the table.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 00:37 GMT
#2022
On July 11 2014 09:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
I mean, it's common knowledge that Palmar runs his games this way. Bill would (I think) know this...so it's a little ridiculous if he thinks he can get useful information by fake-claiming roleblocked. Unless he actually /was/ roleblocked, in which scenario you'd have to assume that he /is/ a power-role and actually /knows/ he was roleblocked (because of a targeted action not resolving or whatever). But in that case, why does he claim it? Mafia don't know if they actually stopped a power of his or not, so it doesn't make sense from a town perspective to claim having /actually/ been roleblocked in that scenario. There's no benefit for town to know this, and EVERY benefit for mafia to know it.

My conclusion is that Bill Murray is faking roleblocked here. I don't know if he's doing it as town or mafia. If he's town and doing it, it's important that we hear his reasoning for doing so.

exactly. The only thing I can think about would be something like a vig who shot someone and he assumes his target would not be protected or something like that.

At the same time I disagree with you about BM knowing that Palmar runs his games that way. I do not think he'd know that at all. He's not that kind of guy who thinks about that and neither is he the kind of guy who actually reads the OP before he sings up for something. Yes, that's speculation from my point of view but I feel rather strongly about it, which is why I asked the question rather than just point it out...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 00:39 GMT
#2023
and just like that my scrambled eggs are ruined. I take back everything I said about loving you VE, should not have responded
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 00:57 GMT
#2024
This is why you'll never leave the Bronze League Toad. It's literally impossible for it to be my fault your eggs are ruined.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:03 GMT
#2025
what do you think about forumite you two?

as far as i can see at every point in day 1 he wasn't paying attention to the things that were important at the time
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 01:05 GMT
#2026
Ugh... I could still lynch Forumite tbh. Like, he SOUNDS townie, but he's a very skilled player and the actual THINGS he's done have not been townie imo.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 01:08 GMT
#2027
You realy don't have to ask me about forumite, everyone knows what I think about him
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 01:08 GMT
#2028
Like he actively deflected attention off of ObiWan more than once over the course of the game. ACTIVELY deflected.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 01:10 GMT
#2029
On July 09 2014 00:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 00:32 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:25 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:23 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:18 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:16 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:13 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm not going to unvote forumite that quickly. I want him to feel the grip of death around his neck and see him sweat in fear.
I still think he's mighty scummy.
Just drop it. I was pressured yesterday, today I´m just disappointed that you are unable to read my posts. I´ve allready explained the mess yesterday, now make a coherent case (for real this time) and get a wagon going or do something usefull with your time.

hahahahahahaha

That goes for you too

pls gooby pls

You are telling the one person who made the most cases (Toad) to use his time more useful when you haven't done jack shit this game. An hommage:

prplz town because I read him as scum
Koshi totes ruining thread with his 5 posts about riddles guys. I am totes upset. also many omgus.
Robik scum with the omgus threatening.
SlOosh sheeps to fake activity.
Toad I keep blabbering about. I don't really know what I am saying. Or do I? Nobody knows.
layabout pure lurker.
Exo lurker that was getting thread sentiment.

What did I miss?

nice list, I´d like to make lists someday

Is the list scummy? Are you calling Koshi scum for making a list? Like, how is THIS post productive?

It´s not, I´m just pissed off at Toades and Koshi.

Well I don't care - if you're mafia then that's easy to say. What I care about is who you want to lynch. You asked for the case on ObiWan (a lurker) and you've tried to discourage MY preference mderg (a lurker) yet you say you'd lynch a lurker today. How about instead of continuing to be "pissed off" at Toad and Koshi, you tell us who YOU think is the best lynch today?

I only remember because I specifically called him out for doing it once here, and there is another time on top of this that I read when filtering Forumite searching for ObiWan. There may even be more, because when I saw that I immediately came and posted about his SCUMMY ASS SHIT.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 01:13 GMT
#2030
Maybe I prefer a Forumite lynch today. Maybe layabout CAN manipulate me.

##Unvote
##Vote: Forumite
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 01:15 GMT
#2031
Let's roll, Toad.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:21 GMT
#2032
this was quite weird to me:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22536617
On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

What´s the case on iamp?


On July 09 2014 06:53 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

What´s the case on iamp?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082

Koshis post in there and what I wrote in addition when I looked at his town games to doublecheck that.

Thanks. Yes, I remember reading that case, it´s quite good, also it´s not about lynching me which is a bonus.

##Vote: iamperfection

Best case scenario he isn't paying attention to the game.

But at that point forumite had been posting since the case and koshi toad and a little before that slOosh posting about the case and robo had adressed it. If forumite had read it and was willing to vote in support of it you would expect it to have been on his mind and not an afterthought. He also doesn't attempt to add anything. His need to have the case linked to him also highlights how lazy forumite is being with his vote which he should care about but doesn't.

Italicized might be a joke but i feel like pointing it out
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 11 2014 01:24 GMT
#2033
I read damdred's self consciousness as townie. All that stuff in prplz case damdred explained quite well.
~
##vote mderg

Is someone reading mderg as town?
~
dunno what bm is doing but it's scummy as fuck.
~
sinani sheeping prplz's case I can see, hiro sheeping it I cannot. I thought hiro had more pride than that.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 11 2014 01:24 GMT
#2034
forumite isn't reading. once you realize that it makes him look townier.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 11 2014 01:26 GMT
#2035
On July 11 2014 03:42 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 02:27 Corazon wrote:
Oh shit, Robik is dead.
What a fucking idiot, he should really never play a game of Mafia again.



Corazon the Avenger has been modkilled

+ Show Spoiler [Role PM] +

Avenger

If there is one thing you will not stand for, that is the lynching of innocents by a terrified and angry mob. You have dedicated your life to bringing vigilante justice on to those who do wrong.

Once in the game, following the lynching of an innocent player, you can choose to kill a player of your choice. That player must have voted to lynch the town player the previous day.

You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.


He was warned in a PM to tone it down

loooooooool what did I tell you jubjubs

On July 11 2014 04:16 prplhz wrote:
Damndred

First read his frigging filter.

Done?

So who were the most talked about for lynch people yesterday? Forumite, iamperfection and Corazon. And Damdred talks about them a total of 1 times when he mentions Forumite in passing. He doesn't have an opinion on iamperfection and he mentions Corazon one single time, very early on, when he just wants to know why he's off iamperfection's list. Why randomly question some town read, that turned out to be correct?

Like Alakaslam already pointed out, there's also some weird jokish stuff in there that looks bad. Joke about being scum, another joke about being scum.

The general attitude of his filter is one of not giving a fuck. I was being very negative and despairing about our prospects of even lynching anyone with all these lurking people around and then his answer was lol maybe we can't agree either. Just a carefree "We probably can't lynch and we probably can't agree" and still he's doing nothing for town. Seems like he's not bothered at all about this.

I also somewhat randomly asked him about why he wasn't voting ObiWanShinobi yesterday and his answer was "Haven't seen a good case". It wasn't a curious investigative "Why you asking about ObiWanShinobi?", it wasn't a boisterous "Because he's totally town!", it wasn't anything,, it was simply a declaration that once he sees a good case on him, he will vote him, along with an apology in case there had been one he had not noticed.

In the end he makes a throwaway vote on ExO_, even saying in his own vote (and earlier in the game) that he doesn't have much reason to think that ExO_ is even scum. Also the wording of the vote "I'm going to put up a vote" seems like it's something he thinks is a big deal but if a townie thinks his vote is a big deal there's going to be a case or a push or whatever. He's not even attempting to drum up support for it, it looks way too much like a throwaway vote.

All in all, he looks really scummy. He hardly takes a stance on anything, he's not trying to involve himself in the happenings of the game, he seems carefree about what he thinks is a bad state of town and he does this nervous joking around and a throwaway vote.

##Vote Damdred


very convincing, much town on jimi, damdred was a lynch possibility D1 and hasn't gotten better

On July 11 2014 04:35 HiroPro wrote:
I feel good about my vote.


apparently on damdred? hiro suspiciously inactive thus far IMO

On July 11 2014 06:42 slOosh wrote:
I want to play a game where we have a bunch of people, and we kill the last one to cast a vote.

The pool being ritoky, batsnacks, mderg, sinani, damdred and hiropro.

And they can only vote for other people in the pool.

Best game ever.

Jk, I'll be reading up on these dudes, but I'm like reasonably sure like 2 or 3 mafia are in here.


I like this post, and the list within.

Remember guys, ritoky's biggest contribution so far is a case on ME. He's definitely in the lynchable pool. Add BM and bunnies too.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 11 2014 01:27 GMT
#2036
On July 11 2014 07:10 ExO_ wrote:
Is the final vote count actually listed anywhere? From the voting thread I took the last vote count before the vote reset and then added in the appropriate votes and came up with this:

Day 1 Votecount

iamperfection (14): prplhz, toadesstern, sloosh, harurh, visceraeyes, obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta, yamato77, alakaslam, koshi, forumite, Vivax, Sinani, corazon
corazon (2): iamperfection, iamrobik
exo_ (1): damdred
ritoky (1): 27ninjabunnies
obiwanshinobi (1): exo_
forumite (1): bill
hiropro (1): batsnacks


There's obviously quite a bit of information missing from this however (vote changes primarily) and if I've missed a mod vote count post please let me know.


Not that a lot of "the list" has their votes parked squarely away from the mislynch, looool.

On July 11 2014 02:36 HaruRH wrote:
Join me on my crusade

We are lynching Bill Murray/Mderg today


townpile
Writer@WriterYamato
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:29 GMT
#2037
On July 11 2014 10:24 kushm4sta wrote:
forumite isn't reading. once you realize that it makes him look townier.

it's funny and sad

sidenote-I have only made it to page 60 although i have read 85 to current too
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:31 GMT
#2038
yamato ritoky was also very anti-ninjabunnies

i would take sinani out of that kill list his play has been really good
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 01:32 GMT
#2039
On July 11 2014 10:24 kushm4sta wrote:
forumite isn't reading. once you realize that it makes him look townier.

Forumite brought Resistance to the forum format. I don't care what you say, Forumite /not/ reading the thread does /not/ make him townier.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 11 2014 01:33 GMT
#2040
On July 11 2014 10:31 layabout wrote:
yamato ritoky was also very anti-ninjabunnies

i would take sinani out of that kill list his play has been really good

could be a doublebus

not that rare tbh
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