TL Mafia LXVII: Storm Mafia 2 - Page 100

On July 11 2014 05:34 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Koshi

i'm masoned with koshi and he's denying it in thread

no reason to lie as town so he's scum

On July 10 2014 11:04 HiroPro wrote:
sup. I read the thread.

anyway, I think you guys are missing the boat on VE. I'm more interested in how VE went from saying that he wasn't interested in lynching anyone who was active to lynching the second-most active player in this game (iamperfection). The reasons that he gave don't appear very strong at all and he only said anything about the guy when sloosh prompted him to.

On July 11 2014 06:53 Koshi wrote:
Vivax. Tell me about ghost players.

On July 11 2014 06:59 Vivax wrote:


I saw that the vengeful spirit can figure out if somebody is a ghost or not, there's not much more that I can say about it.

On July 11 2014 06:58 Koshi wrote:
Vivax can you tell me prplhz is 100% town?

On July 10 2014 10:08 layabout wrote:
at page 42 and i can't believe that koshi could head up a wagon

kinda don't want to post properly yet but since you insist kush..


kush the very statement that VE was convinced mderg was scum is untrue.
If you look at VE's posts around the time he is clearly willing to move to Exo could get behind a forumite lynch and is open to nearly anyone that isn't very active as a potential lynch.

Hell look at his vote post:





Click the nested bit!!
mderg says that that isn't "close to a scumread" however, I would say it's a description of scummy behavior making it pretty much "close to a scumread" mderg is either lying or is inattentive.

His actions not only fit but match VE's day1 play in nearly every game i have seen him in. VE's vote typically bounces around all over the place. VE is clearly open to a number of lynches and is actively considering other lynche candidate eg corazon. Mderg's point that VE swapped from a hard read to someone who he didn't think was scummy is also totally misrepresentative.

mderg is not only adding a throwaway point but one that is not valid

If you still aren't convinced about VE give this a read:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?user=VisceraEyes&page=2

mderg addresses VE's switch by suggesting that VE never thought mderg was mafia in the first place
This leaves the idea that VE is mafia and acted knowing that mderg is town,
not just in a way suggest's VE is mafia because mderg thinks VE is mafia. This is making a point in the way mafia might attempt to as they benefit from doing so.

I will likely get onto this later but nothing looked town about obiwan's entrance into the thread and i am surprised it hasn't been jumped on yet
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22528115

On July 11 2014 07:00 Koshi wrote:

No I meant the kind of ghost players you called thepoofter scum for in World Cup.

On July 11 2014 07:14 Vivax wrote:


I would say mderg fits that profile the most, 2 of his scumreads basically vanished within a short time, leaving only forumite, yet I don't see him acting upon that, only discussing stuff revolving around him.

On July 11 2014 07:14 Koshi wrote:

Ok. But can you give me the definition of a ghost "player".

On July 11 2014 07:09 Vivax wrote:


I'm rolling with that at the moment. Can't be 100 % but I don't feel he's the scum I'm looking for when I read his stuff.

Can you give me an interpretation of this post cause I ge the feeling laya wants to scumread VE, and in the second half he wants to scumread mderg, but I'm not really sure. It's quite the salad, but I get the feeling he might be making some important points about the two.

mderg addresses VE's switch by suggesting that VE never thought mderg was mafia in the first place
This leaves the idea that VE is mafia and acted knowing that mderg is town,
not just in a way suggest's VE is mafia because mderg thinks VE is mafia. This is making a point in the way mafia might attempt to as they benefit from doing so.

On July 11 2014 07:17 layabout wrote:
The point was that VE called mderg scum partly for throwaway posting then leaving mderg did that again and i jumped on it.

kush then said i wasn't looking at mdergs point that VE had a hard read and ditched it for a mislynch

my post was highlighting that mderg point was made in a way to make himself look good whilst attacking ve his accuser and that the thing he was saying about ve was a lie since VE clearly didn't have a hard read and his switch to another target was very predictable

furthermore if you look at mdergs posting today it doesn't exactly say "town agenda"