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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 25 2014 21:01 GMT
#1401
On June 26 2014 05:58 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 05:58 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:56 Chezinu wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:51 Chezinu wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:51 Snickers wrote:
Lazer if u want to look town to me, look at the questions sloosh ask during day one and analyze them. He asks ykz and me and somebody else about reads. They could be pointless though and just attempts to look townie. I do not have a computer to reference them to the rest of the thread.

He knows he got checked, so don't expect much of a response.

Waitwat. Did you really check me? What did you get for result?

Mafia obv.

Que? Weren't you a cop? I mean the one that checks roles?

Yup. The good medic be deads.

But you only get back roles, not alignments. As cop that is.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 25 2014 21:02 GMT
#1402
On June 26 2014 06:01 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 05:58 Chezinu wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:58 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:56 Chezinu wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:51 Chezinu wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:51 Snickers wrote:
Lazer if u want to look town to me, look at the questions sloosh ask during day one and analyze them. He asks ykz and me and somebody else about reads. They could be pointless though and just attempts to look townie. I do not have a computer to reference them to the rest of the thread.

He knows he got checked, so don't expect much of a response.

Waitwat. Did you really check me? What did you get for result?

Mafia obv.

Que? Weren't you a cop? I mean the one that checks roles?

Yup. The good medic be deads.

But you only get back roles, not alignments. As cop that is.

Sadly.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 25 2014 21:03 GMT
#1403
On June 26 2014 06:02 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 06:01 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:58 Chezinu wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:58 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:56 Chezinu wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:51 Chezinu wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:51 Snickers wrote:
Lazer if u want to look town to me, look at the questions sloosh ask during day one and analyze them. He asks ykz and me and somebody else about reads. They could be pointless though and just attempts to look townie. I do not have a computer to reference them to the rest of the thread.

He knows he got checked, so don't expect much of a response.

Waitwat. Did you really check me? What did you get for result?

Mafia obv.

Que? Weren't you a cop? I mean the one that checks roles?

Yup. The good medic be deads.

But you only get back roles, not alignments. As cop that is.

Sadly.

... So I'm guessing you got back goon/RBer then?
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 21:36:44
June 25 2014 21:04 GMT
#1404
Vote Count - Day 4:


Lazermonkey (3): slOosh, Chezinu, Release
Koshi (1): YouKnowZhou

Currently Not Voting (3): Snickers, Lazermonkey, Koshi



Currently Lazermonkey is set to be lynched with 3 votes! Day will end in

Remember: Voting is mandatory. You can find the spreadsheet to the game here.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 25 2014 21:04 GMT
#1405
On June 26 2014 06:02 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 06:01 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:58 Chezinu wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:58 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:56 Chezinu wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:51 Chezinu wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:51 Snickers wrote:
Lazer if u want to look town to me, look at the questions sloosh ask during day one and analyze them. He asks ykz and me and somebody else about reads. They could be pointless though and just attempts to look townie. I do not have a computer to reference them to the rest of the thread.

He knows he got checked, so don't expect much of a response.

Waitwat. Did you really check me? What did you get for result?

Mafia obv.

Que? Weren't you a cop? I mean the one that checks roles?

Yup. The good medic be deads.

But you only get back roles, not alignments. As cop that is.

Sadly.


Yeah chez is the role cop. Am I like the only person who noticed this? He literally announced his check
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 25 2014 21:24 GMT
#1406
Yea can we just pile on the votes on Lazermonkey? Like, it's the cool thing to do.

It's evident that he isn't doing anything to figure the game out, and even the last reads post he says concerning me and Koshi "nothing really changed since yesterday as I see it. Will try to figure out which one of these guys I'd be most happy to kill though." but has done absolutely nothing in thread to figure it out.

He is acting like caught scum who has run out of easy targets and is waffling around.

Also Chezinu.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 25 2014 21:30 GMT
#1407
Also, for your entertainment, watch how Lazermonkey and YKZ try to distance themselves away from each other. It's quite amusing.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 25 2014 21:32 GMT
#1408
On June 26 2014 06:04 OnceKing wrote:
Vote Count - Day 4:


Lazermonkey (2): slOosh, Chezinu
Koshi (1): YouKnowZhou

Currently Not Voting (4): Snickers, Lazermonkey, Release, Koshi



Currently Lazermonkey is set to be lynched with 2 votes! Day will end in

Remember: Voting is mandatory. You can find the spreadsheet to the game here.

Sorry about the quick succession of posts. I believe you missed Release's recent vote on Lazermonkey
On June 26 2014 05:12 Release wrote:
FFS his late vote was inconsequential, and I had initially thought not alignment indicative. However, under further consideration, the vote will certainly generate discussion about itself, not particularly useful information (I believe), so I see it as an impetus for increased chaos in our discussions. I think Lazer tried to brush off the vote with the few posts after his vote, and stop us from ascribing responsibility to him. However, if you believe that the vote was a well-informed decision (and I don't believe that anything says otherwise), then I have to believe that Lazer intended to cause chaos with the vote.

In addition to his vacillating nature,
##Vote Lazermonkey

OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
June 25 2014 21:36 GMT
#1409
Thanks, fixed
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 25 2014 21:43 GMT
#1410
If goon and vanilla are distinct roles then chez check is a red check. Good enough for me. Lm if you were framed you're gonna be conf town at the end of the day. Let's talk about sloosh. I can't stop a check based wagon. You will die. But until then, I'mm around. Let's form reads together while you are still able to speak. If you flip town I'll know they were honest and I'll do what I can to lead us to victory.

What is the main evidence for your read on him?

##unvote
##vote lazermonkey
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 25 2014 21:51 GMT
#1411
I actually urge you to look at SlOosh filter. I mean, Also look at my filter and look for stuff about SlOosh. Even if you are 100% sure I'm scum you still need to figure out the other scum. I've explained several times why I think he is scum already, including:

- Defends mderg alot. Yet he gives very weak/no reasoning on why he is defending mderg. It boils down to him saying that he doesn't like the mderg lynch.

- ALL of his major pushes has been on people that are town (Artanis, VE, Bunnies, me) except for YKZ. And since I think YKZ supertown, this also implies that SlOosh has only really pushed town this game. I'm aware of the fact that you don't know my alignment nor do you know YKZ's alignment but keep this point in mind when I flip since this should also increase your townread on YKZ.

- Is very eager to vote YKZ over me D3. Yet now he completly drops his read on YKZ to focus only on me. Isn't this convenient given that I am the number 1 lynch target?

I'd also like to point out, once again, that I think Release's reason for thinking that SlOosh is town is BS. While asking question IS good, it is very non-commital. Telling people to stop creating chaos is also good but once again, non-commital.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 25 2014 21:55 GMT
#1412
On June 26 2014 04:48 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Koshi, it sounds like you still think LazerMo is scum. If this is the case, please address my defense of Lazermo here (link). Tell my why I am wrong, if you have a moment.

Can you be more specific? About what? Too scummy to be scum aspect of the vote?

##vote: Lazermonkey
I had a good night of sleep.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 25 2014 21:57 GMT
#1413
Yea, so I defended mderg a couple times during day 1, and once during day 2 to vote for YKZ. Since YKZ hasn't flipped, me voting YKZ over mderg isn't alignment indicative.

I pushed Artanis and backed off. I pushed VE and backed off. I never pushed bunnies, I just preferred her over mderg at the time. Clearly Lazermonkey hasn't been following the thread.

Convenient? Did I also setup the Chezinu cop claim as well? Wowzers.

Still hasn't voted for me despite thinking I'm superscum. A doy.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 25 2014 22:05 GMT
#1414
I don't feel like I need to add much to the Koshi-case. Not much changed since yesterday for his part. Except what was already said about his vote on VE yesterday I'd like to repeat my main point of suspicion against him:

During D1 and D2 (ie before everyone was getting up his ass) he basically didn't give a shit about pushing his scum reads. Look for how long he said I was scum. But noone was really voting me untill D3. Try now to put yourself in Koshi's shoes. He has a big scum read on me but noone cares about me. As town, this is where you push the fuck out of me to try and get me lynched. He didn't do that though. He was fine with someone else getting lynched. This doesn't make any sense if he is town but it does make alot of sense if he is scum.

Btw since some people seems to be missunderstanding this point: there is a massive difference between who you have as a scum read and who you push. Yes, it was always clear that Koshi had me as scum read. But that doesn't help town for shit if he couldn't do anything about it.

I actually think that some sort of meta read could be usefull here. I mean, now that I am going to die anyway, it IS possible that Koshi just kinda sucks as town and never pushes his scum reads. I never bothered to do this though because I was lazy. I do remember someone saying that Koshi was a good player (which would imply that he pushes his scum reads as town) so I just went with that.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 25 2014 22:09 GMT
#1415
WOW!!! It's like all the mafia are voting with me.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 25 2014 22:11 GMT
#1416
On June 26 2014 06:57 slOosh wrote:
Yea, so I defended mderg a couple times during day 1, and once during day 2 to vote for YKZ. Since YKZ hasn't flipped, me voting YKZ over mderg isn't alignment indicative.

I pushed Artanis and backed off. I pushed VE and backed off. I never pushed bunnies, I just preferred her over mderg at the time. Clearly Lazermonkey hasn't been following the thread.

Convenient? Did I also setup the Chezinu cop claim as well? Wowzers.

Still hasn't voted for me despite thinking I'm superscum. A doy.

lol, its not like voting you would make a difference. I mean, come on. 5 of 6 players think I'm scum to begin with and I've got a red check on myself.

Convenient! You also voted me before Chez's cop claim so I don't see how this is relevant.
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 25 2014 22:13 GMT
#1417
On June 26 2014 06:51 Lazermonkey wrote:
I actually urge you to look at SlOosh filter. I mean, Also look at my filter and look for stuff about SlOosh. Even if you are 100% sure I'm scum you still need to figure out the other scum. I've explained several times why I think he is scum already, including:

- Defends mderg alot. Yet he gives very weak/no reasoning on why he is defending mderg. It boils down to him saying that he doesn't like the mderg lynch.

- ALL of his major pushes has been on people that are town (Artanis, VE, Bunnies, me) except for YKZ. And since I think YKZ supertown, this also implies that SlOosh has only really pushed town this game. I'm aware of the fact that you don't know my alignment nor do you know YKZ's alignment but keep this point in mind when I flip since this should also increase your townread on YKZ.

- Is very eager to vote YKZ over me D3. Yet now he completly drops his read on YKZ to focus only on me. Isn't this convenient given that I am the number 1 lynch target?

I'd also like to point out, once again, that I think Release's reason for thinking that SlOosh is town is BS. While asking question IS good, it is very non-commital. Telling people to stop creating chaos is also good but once again, non-commital.


Look LM what I'm trying to get at here is that if you're dead anyways, let's just make the best of it. I still think you have a decent chance of flipping town, but let's be real here: there's a red check on you. You have to be lynched. So I'm not 100% sure you're scum, but I *am* 100% sure you're getting lynched today. The first step to being productive with the next 24 hours is going to be you accepting that you're getting lynched and making the best of it.

So when it comes down to it, your case on sloOsh consists of him pushing townies and defending mderg with faulty reasoning, and on D4 focusing you over me (I'm assuming you're talking about before chez claimed a goon check on you). Does this accurately characterize your reasons for wanting to lynch him?
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 25 2014 22:16 GMT
#1418
Release, I know I haven't talked to you directly all game. But I have something very important to ask you. Why do you think there is a roleblocker in this game?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 25 2014 22:17 GMT
#1419
On June 26 2014 07:13 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 06:51 Lazermonkey wrote:
I actually urge you to look at SlOosh filter. I mean, Also look at my filter and look for stuff about SlOosh. Even if you are 100% sure I'm scum you still need to figure out the other scum. I've explained several times why I think he is scum already, including:

- Defends mderg alot. Yet he gives very weak/no reasoning on why he is defending mderg. It boils down to him saying that he doesn't like the mderg lynch.

- ALL of his major pushes has been on people that are town (Artanis, VE, Bunnies, me) except for YKZ. And since I think YKZ supertown, this also implies that SlOosh has only really pushed town this game. I'm aware of the fact that you don't know my alignment nor do you know YKZ's alignment but keep this point in mind when I flip since this should also increase your townread on YKZ.

- Is very eager to vote YKZ over me D3. Yet now he completly drops his read on YKZ to focus only on me. Isn't this convenient given that I am the number 1 lynch target?

I'd also like to point out, once again, that I think Release's reason for thinking that SlOosh is town is BS. While asking question IS good, it is very non-commital. Telling people to stop creating chaos is also good but once again, non-commital.


Look LM what I'm trying to get at here is that if you're dead anyways, let's just make the best of it. I still think you have a decent chance of flipping town, but let's be real here: there's a red check on you. You have to be lynched. So I'm not 100% sure you're scum, but I *am* 100% sure you're getting lynched today. The first step to being productive with the next 24 hours is going to be you accepting that you're getting lynched and making the best of it.

So when it comes down to it, your case on sloOsh consists of him pushing townies and defending mderg with faulty reasoning, and on D4 focusing you over me (I'm assuming you're talking about before chez claimed a goon check on you). Does this accurately characterize your reasons for wanting to lynch him?


Are you for realz!?!??! I never said I got a goon check!!! ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU FRAMES HIMS WITH THE GOON CHECK?!?!?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 25 2014 22:21 GMT
#1420
On June 26 2014 07:17 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 07:13 YouKnowZhou wrote:
On June 26 2014 06:51 Lazermonkey wrote:
I actually urge you to look at SlOosh filter. I mean, Also look at my filter and look for stuff about SlOosh. Even if you are 100% sure I'm scum you still need to figure out the other scum. I've explained several times why I think he is scum already, including:

- Defends mderg alot. Yet he gives very weak/no reasoning on why he is defending mderg. It boils down to him saying that he doesn't like the mderg lynch.

- ALL of his major pushes has been on people that are town (Artanis, VE, Bunnies, me) except for YKZ. And since I think YKZ supertown, this also implies that SlOosh has only really pushed town this game. I'm aware of the fact that you don't know my alignment nor do you know YKZ's alignment but keep this point in mind when I flip since this should also increase your townread on YKZ.

- Is very eager to vote YKZ over me D3. Yet now he completly drops his read on YKZ to focus only on me. Isn't this convenient given that I am the number 1 lynch target?

I'd also like to point out, once again, that I think Release's reason for thinking that SlOosh is town is BS. While asking question IS good, it is very non-commital. Telling people to stop creating chaos is also good but once again, non-commital.


Look LM what I'm trying to get at here is that if you're dead anyways, let's just make the best of it. I still think you have a decent chance of flipping town, but let's be real here: there's a red check on you. You have to be lynched. So I'm not 100% sure you're scum, but I *am* 100% sure you're getting lynched today. The first step to being productive with the next 24 hours is going to be you accepting that you're getting lynched and making the best of it.

So when it comes down to it, your case on sloOsh consists of him pushing townies and defending mderg with faulty reasoning, and on D4 focusing you over me (I'm assuming you're talking about before chez claimed a goon check on you). Does this accurately characterize your reasons for wanting to lynch him?


Are you for realz!?!??! I never said I got a goon check!!! ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU FRAMES HIMS WITH THE GOON CHECK?!?!?


You obviously didn't get medic, you can't get godfather, and if there was a roleblocker scum would have roleblocked artanis last night and shot you (remember, you didn't specify his medic type, so they'd need to RB him to be sure he didnt' save you again) so there wouldn't be a live chezinu to clarify his checks. Admittedly you could have gotten back framer, which I didn't consider.
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
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