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On June 27 2014 07:02 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 06:59 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 27 2014 06:59 Chezinu wrote:On June 27 2014 06:50 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 27 2014 06:40 Chezinu wrote:On June 26 2014 23:21 Koshi wrote:
Wait. Chezinu did you get a goon result from LM? Because that actually means he is town. You lied about the check right?
I just realized that a goon check is most likely a frame job. Scum can't look like a goon. Unless the framer frames himself or gf like a goon. I can't believe 3 powerroles vs 1 powerrole in a normal mini. 3 vs 2 is normal. I never said I got goon back. I'm not even a cop. lol I just know things like... art is medic. When someone hands Chezinu a awesome role to pretend to be.. I couldn't resist... Sorry for pulling a Caller on you guys. Also, sorry for taking a while to respond. Twas busy today. Holy fuck... Lynch this dude please... ##Unvote
##Vote: Chez LOL The luxuries of being confirmed town Am I missing something? When were you confirmed town? Beginning of game, everyone said I was town. Then Art confirmed me town before he died.
##Unvote
GG my memory is OP
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Okay, for reals. Why are you guys still voting me. Its Koshi/Release thats cool to kill now.
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YKZ, you are such an amazing person.
##Vote: Koshi
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On June 27 2014 07:12 Snickers wrote:
Ok can you all help me out here. I am having a hard time trying ot figure out what is happening. If everyone could post just the name of the person and where thye think they stand, it would save alot of confusion. Also at the end state who your are currently voting for since no vote updates have happened? YKZ mostly did this above but left out the vote.
Chezinu fake-claimed so I don't have a red check on myself. Therefore, you should unvote me. The list for people that we are allowed to chose from (to kill) is
-Release
-Koshi
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On June 27 2014 07:13 slOosh wrote:
Do you understand what insane means, herr doktor?
Ow, please SlOosh. So you really think I'm THAT fucking scummy that you'd rely on the fact that you got framed last night?
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Snickers. The brain. Use it.
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I like how everyone yesterday was like: Oww, I dunno who is scum between Lazer/YKZ/Koshi. Then today I get a GREEN CHECK on myself but still it is suddenly clear as fuck that I am scum. I understand that there are explanations for a greencheck on scum but its still unlikely.
SlOosh, you said yesterday that you'd rather kill YKZ than me. I called you out for it, you refused to answer. Why do you want to kill me?
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I mean, holy fuck. Scum must be laughing their asses off watching how town gladly kills off their green check.
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On June 27 2014 07:37 slOosh wrote:
Yes, me personally. As in, if I was given day vig powers I'd shoot YKZ. But the game of mafia doesn't work that way. I think it's better to lynch you, then tackle the final boss YKZ after that.
I mean, I also have a green check but you spend all your time arguing with Release how he shouldn't be reading me as town? Please Lazermonkey, just get lynched quietly.
Yes, because his reasoning sucked. Understanding Release motives are key to understand his alignment. Also note that I didn't want to lynch you. Like, its fine if you suspect me and shit. My problem is that you think that I am THE BEST lynch target out of everyone, despite me getting a green check on myself. Despite me not being your number 1 scum read.
Explain why its better to kill me before YKZ...
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I have looked alot into SlOosh lately. Just check my filter. His recent post is so insanely fucked up that I don't even know what to say. The green check on him does, however, make him look slightly better. But just ever so slightly. I'm actually leaning more towards Release atm. He disapeared at a VERY convenient moment...
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On June 27 2014 07:59 YouKnowZhou wrote:Well, if it's just you and me, LM, do you have any questions or directions for me? You've seen my read list and you know what I'm thinking about, and I promise to 100% not ignore your input if you flip town.
I think the list is good. The only thing is that atm I'm not sure Koshi is the best lynch. Release and SlOosh recent actions make them look really bad. I would probably say that Release is on par with Koshi for best lynch with SlOosh slightly behind.
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On June 27 2014 08:01 Release wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 07:45 YouKnowZhou wrote:Release, you've said (link) multiple (link) times (link) over the past few days that you want to lynch one of me/lm first, then if that person flips town, lynch Koshi. Here's my question for you: If LM flips town, would you lynch me next or Koshi? What if LM flips scum? If these answers are different from each other, why? What about Koshi do you like that makes you not want to lynch him over LM? Right now we are 7 alive, with 2 scum. If we mislynch today we go into 3-2 lylo. If you have 3 scumreads and worried you might be wrong, and that 2 of them are town and 1 scum, the order you lynch them in matters a lot. So why are you eager to lynch me over Koshi today, but would reconsider if and only if LM flips town? I don't understand your thought process here. Please respond before the flip. At this point, since Koshi has not returned since the Korea Belgium game, and he is probably asleep (earlier than he has been in past days), his lack of input is more harmful as compared to you who is always around the deadline. I'd probably lynch Koshi first (but of course I would have to consider his next day input). Since the end of day 2, LM's play seems to be characteristic of try to get someone lynched (particularly SloOsh whom I thought was unreasonably thrown into his scumlist when Koshi questioned him, and when LM made his bigger post. You have been on my scumlist since Day 1. I thought that was awful play, and I still think it is awful play to ignore everyone and just hide behind "Kenpachi rule is God" Yhea, getting people lycnhed is totally not something town would want to do.. Owait.
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On June 27 2014 08:06 Snickers wrote:
So did I post my reads too soon? Owell hopefully we got another medic to protect me. Anyway this game would be alot easier if town played well. And seriously when are you guys going to read the rules. There could be two medics.
There could be. But this is a 12 player game. There are seldom more than 2 power roles and 2 medics is strong as fuck. Given that at least one scum is a goon its insanely unlikely that there are more than one medic.
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On June 27 2014 08:08 Release wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 08:03 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 27 2014 08:01 Release wrote:On June 27 2014 07:45 YouKnowZhou wrote:Release, you've said (link) multiple (link) times (link) over the past few days that you want to lynch one of me/lm first, then if that person flips town, lynch Koshi. Here's my question for you: If LM flips town, would you lynch me next or Koshi? What if LM flips scum? If these answers are different from each other, why? What about Koshi do you like that makes you not want to lynch him over LM? Right now we are 7 alive, with 2 scum. If we mislynch today we go into 3-2 lylo. If you have 3 scumreads and worried you might be wrong, and that 2 of them are town and 1 scum, the order you lynch them in matters a lot. So why are you eager to lynch me over Koshi today, but would reconsider if and only if LM flips town? I don't understand your thought process here. Please respond before the flip. At this point, since Koshi has not returned since the Korea Belgium game, and he is probably asleep (earlier than he has been in past days), his lack of input is more harmful as compared to you who is always around the deadline. I'd probably lynch Koshi first (but of course I would have to consider his next day input). Since the end of day 2, LM's play seems to be characteristic of try to get someone lynched (particularly SloOsh whom I thought was unreasonably thrown into his scumlist when Koshi questioned him, and when LM made his bigger post. You have been on my scumlist since Day 1. I thought that was awful play, and I still think it is awful play to ignore everyone and just hide behind "Kenpachi rule is God" So when you were talking about Koshi as a third consideration over an LM/YKZ lynch if one of the two of us flips town, what you really meant was that you wanted to lynch LM first, then decide between me and koshi? Or am I misunderstanding your priorities here? Lynch whichever of you I thought was scummier. If the lynch revealed that the lynch target flipped town, then decide between Koshi and the other. If the lynch revealed that the lynch target flipped mafia, then lynch the other. it just so happens to be that "scummier" is LM today, and "the other" is by default, you (YKZ) Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 08:04 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 27 2014 08:01 Release wrote:On June 27 2014 07:45 YouKnowZhou wrote:Release, you've said (link) multiple (link) times (link) over the past few days that you want to lynch one of me/lm first, then if that person flips town, lynch Koshi. Here's my question for you: If LM flips town, would you lynch me next or Koshi? What if LM flips scum? If these answers are different from each other, why? What about Koshi do you like that makes you not want to lynch him over LM? Right now we are 7 alive, with 2 scum. If we mislynch today we go into 3-2 lylo. If you have 3 scumreads and worried you might be wrong, and that 2 of them are town and 1 scum, the order you lynch them in matters a lot. So why are you eager to lynch me over Koshi today, but would reconsider if and only if LM flips town? I don't understand your thought process here. Please respond before the flip. At this point, since Koshi has not returned since the Korea Belgium game, and he is probably asleep (earlier than he has been in past days), his lack of input is more harmful as compared to you who is always around the deadline. I'd probably lynch Koshi first (but of course I would have to consider his next day input). Since the end of day 2, LM's play seems to be characteristic of try to get someone lynched (particularly SloOsh whom I thought was unreasonably thrown into his scumlist when Koshi questioned him, and when LM made his bigger post. You have been on my scumlist since Day 1. I thought that was awful play, and I still think it is awful play to ignore everyone and just hide behind "Kenpachi rule is God" Yhea, getting people lycnhed is totally not something town would want to do.. Owait. "someone" as in not necessarily mafia. Would you have preferred me to say "anyone?"
No, there are plenty of people that I haven't even been close to wanting to kill this game.
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On June 27 2014 08:12 Snickers wrote:
OK everyone that is in this thread at this moment. Anwser this for me please. What is the likliness that all of scum voted together day one. If Lazer flips town, that is why I think release is scum. Also if release we then lynch release sloosh is probably scum for his ding ding ding comment. Sloosh did seem suspicious to me becasue of his votes.
Given that I know that me, VE and Bunnies are town and you are very very likely town, I'd say a high chance. Obviously, Release voted YKZ so in that case it say a relativly low chance.
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On June 27 2014 08:24 slOosh wrote:
Snickers if Lazer flips town we can deal with it then.
GG. Nice waste of 72 hours bro.
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I'm honestly pretty sad right now. I know that there are 2 scum on my wagon but it also means that there are 3 dumb townies on my wagon as well.
As for my wills:
-Anyone thinking that YKZ could be scum after this is so so so so so wrong. And stupid.
-Snickers, just do whatever YKZ tells you to. Your logic sucks but thats something we can take in postgame.
-Koshi/Release is the next lynch. Maybe SlOosh if he really fucks over.
-Chezinu and Snickers town.
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On June 27 2014 08:34 YouKnowZhou wrote:Lm, you briefly voted Chez here: (link). Could you explain the reasoning behind your vote and your general read on chez? Since he's not the cop, we need to make sure we have a good read on him going into LYLO. What do you really think of him? Remember, as far as we know, Artanis saved this guy from a KP during N2. Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 08:21 Release wrote:On June 27 2014 08:11 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 27 2014 08:08 Release wrote:On June 27 2014 08:03 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 27 2014 08:01 Release wrote:On June 27 2014 07:45 YouKnowZhou wrote:Release, you've said (link) multiple (link) times (link) over the past few days that you want to lynch one of me/lm first, then if that person flips town, lynch Koshi. Here's my question for you: If LM flips town, would you lynch me next or Koshi? What if LM flips scum? If these answers are different from each other, why? What about Koshi do you like that makes you not want to lynch him over LM? Right now we are 7 alive, with 2 scum. If we mislynch today we go into 3-2 lylo. If you have 3 scumreads and worried you might be wrong, and that 2 of them are town and 1 scum, the order you lynch them in matters a lot. So why are you eager to lynch me over Koshi today, but would reconsider if and only if LM flips town? I don't understand your thought process here. Please respond before the flip. At this point, since Koshi has not returned since the Korea Belgium game, and he is probably asleep (earlier than he has been in past days), his lack of input is more harmful as compared to you who is always around the deadline. I'd probably lynch Koshi first (but of course I would have to consider his next day input). Since the end of day 2, LM's play seems to be characteristic of try to get someone lynched (particularly SloOsh whom I thought was unreasonably thrown into his scumlist when Koshi questioned him, and when LM made his bigger post. You have been on my scumlist since Day 1. I thought that was awful play, and I still think it is awful play to ignore everyone and just hide behind "Kenpachi rule is God" So when you were talking about Koshi as a third consideration over an LM/YKZ lynch if one of the two of us flips town, what you really meant was that you wanted to lynch LM first, then decide between me and koshi? Or am I misunderstanding your priorities here? Lynch whichever of you I thought was scummier. If the lynch revealed that the lynch target flipped town, then decide between Koshi and the other. If the lynch revealed that the lynch target flipped mafia, then lynch the other. it just so happens to be that "scummier" is LM today, and "the other" is by default, you (YKZ) Ok, I see what you're saying. I'm just confused because 2 hours ago you said this: On June 27 2014 05:42 Release wrote:
Koshi is the mafia candidate outside you and YKZ that would become a lynch candidate if you or YKZ flip town. His play this game has not been particularly good (and at times absolutely useless). However, I still think that his play has been more meaningful than your's. But this makes sense. In your mind, you are thinking "I expect YKZ and LM to be scum together. A large amount of my scumread on them is an associative tell between unflipped players. If one of them flips town, my scumread on the other becomes weaker, more on par with my scumread on Koshi-- so I'll need to re-evaluate." Is that accurate? Not quite. It's not that my scumread on the other becomes weaker. It's the fact that there are 2 mafia left. It is stupid for me not to consider who the other mafia might be, therefore I must decide between the two remaining mafia. I think you might be reading too much into "I would probably lynch Koshi tomorrow." That is contingent upon his contributing nothing at the end of today and not doing anything tomorrow. Like I said: "(but of course I would have to consider his next day input)." Ok, I understand. You're saying "I want to lynch one of YKZ/LM, but if we hit LYLO we need to reconsider everything and not fuck up". That makes total sense to me.
Naw, just forgot that Artanis saved him. Thats why I unvoted him so fast. Chez is town for sure.
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The fact that Release and SlOosh simply did nothing is also telling I'd say. No matter how much scum you think I am, there is still a point in keeping up the work. It seemed like SlOosh even wanted to apear contributing by pushing me when it was obvious I was getting lynched. I said numerous times that I was cool with dying. I was giving out reads and asked them to ask question but SlOosh (and Release) just didn't give a fuck at all.
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