EPTErr what is 'wrong' with it? 'It' being an observation on the view points of people in this thread and the interesting way that those viewpoints fit within traditional philosophical ideas.
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
Err what is 'wrong' with it? 'It' being an observation on the view points of people in this thread and the interesting way that those viewpoints fit within traditional philosophical ideas. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9643 Posts
On June 13 2014 23:07 layabout wrote: There is a lot of potential for sillyness if there was a dedicated morale officer This is mostly speculation but i think a large part of the problem is that people approach the game from a competitive mindset much in the same way you would a vidya game. We all made it to TL and i would say this makes us much more likely to play with improving or winning as the focus. The problem is that, that doesn't really align well with mafia. It seems to me that skill is more or less inherent and improvement is difficult to achieve and hard to measure. As much as i have tried i don't think i have improved a whole lot and most of the things i liked or enjoyed about playing here had nothing to do with winning or losing. I know i have played in games where i should have just had more fun with it and that is where the problems start. That's simply untrue. Several people have improved dramatically since starting here. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
i can't fathom why mafia would be any different to everything else. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On June 13 2014 23:31 DarthPunk wrote: This thread is basically two sides whom have different ideas about how things should work here. On the one hand 'pro-change' people are fundamentally espousing an authoritarian philosophy towards moderation Whilst "anti-change" people hold a libertarian philosophy toward moderation. Pretty interesting actually. While there are obviously exceptions, I also find it pretty interesting to see that the divide in opinion is largely split between the Americans and non-Americans. marv, DP, rayn, JAT, Palmar, sandroba, Holyflare, prpl, Dandel Foolishness, GMarshal, yamato, BH, Odin, Qatol, crossfire, myself I can only conclude that we're more pleasant, yet overly sensitive due to our abundance of anti-depressants meds. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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justanothertownie
16319 Posts
On June 14 2014 00:36 marvellosity wrote: actually the conclusion is that ironically 'murica doesn't like freedom after all :o As if that was news to anybody ^_^ | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
Not the first time that has happened either (division between americans and the rest) The Infamous Peach Cobbler Debate also seemed to be divided that way. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
I posted for both sides and am pretty ambivalent in general about the whole thing. Maybe I'm not American? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 14 2014 00:41 Keirathi wrote: Hmm, what does that make me? I posted for both sides and am pretty ambivalent in general about the whole thing. Maybe I'm not American? a fence-sitting d-bag. <3 On June 14 2014 00:41 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah that is also interesting. Not the first time that has happened either (division between americans and the rest) The Infamous Peach Cobbler Debate also seemed to be divided that way. yes! haha. that was weird as shit and hilarious as well. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On June 14 2014 00:49 DarthPunk wrote: I had a good laugh reading crumble-gate again. Cobbler related disputes have plagued TL Mafia throughout our history. Back in Arkham City, this was my clue pointing to BC, solved only by Americans  Riddle Me This: 1 cup sugar 1/4 cup milk 1 teaspoon baking powder 1 cup flour 1 tablespoon butter (A full stick for my good friend Oswald) 3 severed corpses Bake at 400 degrees for 30 minutes. What am I? | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
marv thought it looked disgusting, but that's not unnatural for an americanized dish On June 14 2014 00:41 Keirathi wrote: Hmm, what does that make me? I posted for both sides and am pretty ambivalent in general about the whole thing. Maybe I'm not American? i join you on the fence-sitting-dbag-pile | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On June 14 2014 01:59 ObviousOne wrote: i join you on the fence-sitting-dbag-pile Thanks broski! | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On June 14 2014 00:11 iamperfection wrote: That's simply untrue. Several people have improved dramatically since starting here. i know that but several out of dozens if not hundreds isn't a lot i hadn't realized the rules were going through THEY ARE BULLSHIT attitudes need to change and heavy handed moderation isn't going to achieve that, and once we are stuck with these shitty rules there is basically no way of going back. the point about TL bans punishing some people but not punishing mafia only people at all is another example of why the community has to self moderate Why are the rules going forward when the general consensus was a "no"? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On June 14 2014 03:12 layabout wrote: i know that but several out of dozens if not hundreds isn't a lot i hadn't realized the rules were going through THEY ARE BULLSHIT attitudes need to change and heavy handed moderation isn't going to achieve that, and once we are stuck with these shitty rules there is basically no way of going back. the point about TL bans punishing some people but not punishing mafia only people at all is another example of why the community has to self moderate Why are the rules going forward when the general consensus was a "no"? The rules do not include TL bans afaik and the consensus is certainly "no" by "number of posts saying no in the thread" but probably not "no" by "number of people" | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
On June 14 2014 03:12 layabout wrote: i know that but several out of dozens if not hundreds isn't a lot i hadn't realized the rules were going through THEY ARE BULLSHIT attitudes need to change and heavy handed moderation isn't going to achieve that, and once we are stuck with these shitty rules there is basically no way of going back. the point about TL bans punishing some people but not punishing mafia only people at all is another example of why the community has to self moderate Why are the rules going forward when the general consensus was a "no"? Bolded: People who are smart in terms of mafia will improve. If someonve complains about "the environment affecting their play" blabla (generally) they are just bad because imo on TL the level of play is the absolute highest i have seen anywhere. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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justanothertownie
16319 Posts
On June 14 2014 03:27 Blazinghand wrote: The rules do not include TL bans afaik and the consensus is certainly "no" by "number of posts saying no in the thread" but probably not "no" by "number of people" This statement is debatable. In any way it is certain that there is a large group of people against this who will be completely ignored if this is introduced like that. Why even let us discuss it then. | ||
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