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On June 01 2014 10:21 HaruRH wrote: I was about to give you a 50% scum rating too amiko. Your last push for sloosh was VERY scummy. Luckily sloosh was scum. How was it scummy? I felt like he was purely concerned that his work for the entire day was going to be ruined by some guy coming in at the last minute and giving scum the opportunity they needed. I mean, I didn't see it that way, but I saw him as seeing it that way. | ||
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Why put yourself as below Amiko on your totem? XD In honour of our glorious town leader? ^^ | ||
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Was hoping to see no actual interaction with slOosh, which would somewhat imply that he didn't interact with his scumbuddies at all. However, he questioned sloosh about MZ, so we know there's the possibility of him interacting with his other buddy. Though I think palmar is probably capable of leading this kind of inter-scum conversation as scum, his interaction with gobble early in the game makes me feel like he's probably town. Gobble's largest post is one entirely dedicated to defending MZ. The only thing that comes close is his attack on me, and that's probably 1/3 as large. Gobble clearly had a very strong reason to defend MZ if he put more effort into it than mislynching me and defending himself. Possibilities include that he was hard-defending his scumbuddy, or that he was trying to get towncred for defending MZ after MZ gets mislynched. Not really sure which. I think that's about all I can pull out of his filter without reading the entire thread again to put everything in context. Thoughts on slOosh's filter: Things that really stood out to me were: him pushing for an MZ lynch, his attempts to locate contradictions in play, and his posts regarding sqrt. Starting with the MZ lynch, I'd have to check the context of it, but I felt that he gave legitimate reasons for MZ being scum. But since SlOosh was scum, that makes me think MZ might not be the best lynch choice D3. I think rereading the thread to put everything in context would help me sort out my thoughts on this further. He seemed to focus a lot on finding surface-level contradictions and then casting suspicions on those people. He did it with me twice, he did it with Slam, and much of his case on MZ is that same thing. Sqrt is where this assessment of contradictions seems to break down. While pushing for an MZ lynch because of his changing read on sqrt, he considers sqrt's own fluctuating read on me (as well as possibly others) to be indication of town. It's hard to tell, however, if at this point he's just outright screwing with us because he knows he's going to be lynched, or if he's still really trying to play the game. Again, a read through the entire game (or at least D2) would probably give a better idea of which of these is more likely. Thoughts about the hours leading up to the lynch: MZ's late vote on sloosh reminded me of his late vote on jabber D1. He's been claiming he'll vote someone early in the day, but doesn't vote them until much later. Palmar seemed to come back pretty quickly after I mentioned that he was gone for a long time. He was also pretty emphatic about us switching over to MZ from slOosh. This made me initially suspicious, but he was always more heavily in favor of MZ anyway. Would need to look at this more closely to be sure how I feel about it. Addition: also, he townread me. I always feel uncomfortable when people townread me XD Additional addition: Didn't really like the "shit way of playing" comment when he originally said it, and after the lynch I don't feel much better about it. I'm running out of time gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Wanted to analyze the votes and such, but that'll have to wait for D3 (I doubt I'm the shot of choice for scum XD). Last note is that I found it really, really weird that people were scumreading Amiko during the sloosh lynch. At the same time, I'm not sure it really makes sense for scum to form a fake scumread on the person who, to them, is trying their best to ensure a scum lynch. Just saw MZ's last post. And I realized I've given absolutely no thought to alakaslam whatsoever. Literally the entire game. Makes me nervous. K, time's up. See you in the morning~ | ||
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I get the strong feeling there's a doctor. | ||
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Bleh, I had this whole thing written up but I refreshed the page and it got erased. Was basically just apologizing for being MIA and saying that MZ seemed like a pretty set lynch, so time felt better spent on projects (and reading the new Dresden Files book, and trying out Heroes of the Storm, but mostly the final projects). | ||
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Yeah! One of my friends is so upset with me, lol | ||
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On June 05 2014 02:04 HaruRH wrote: Since Bh just stated no no-lynches, we can only go with: 5v1 -> role claims 3v1 -> lylo I doubt we have a medic (or we have one which fails every night). Cop seems improbable since a red would have been found out by now, given that everyone wanted to lynch sloosh/gobble/MZ. We have to have two of cop/medic/watcher. I'm leaning towards there not being a cop, but I wouldn't rule it out just yet. And if there's a medic/watcher or both, I'd bet they're keeping an eye on Amiko, which is why scum keep getting kills off. I'm not suggesting they stop (medic/watcher), just explaining what I'm seeing. About to read through your thoughts again, will be back with thoughts of my own ^^ | ||
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K, srsly now. Responding to haru XD | ||
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On June 05 2014 02:22 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Medic can't save same person twice in a row. Did BH clarify that somewhere? I don't see it in the OP. | ||
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I don't see any reason to take much of what SlOosh said in that last post seriously anymore. He's confirmed scum, so whatever he said at that point was meant to drag us into wifom. So we shouldn't let it, and ignore most of it, as I'm trying to do with his comments about sqrt. Analysis >>> scum wifom. As for me sheeping the MZ lynch, I should clarify I guess. MZ had been a prime lynch target for the better part of 2 days at that point. There was no way anyone I could suggest was being lynched over MZ even if I thought there was a better lynch. So I saw no point in analyzing anything that might prove pointless, rather than working on my two final projects that are due next week. Technically I wasn't even being lazy, I was just prioritizing my time. I just checked out the votes from the SlOosh lynch again, and I feel like there's a really strong chance that all scum were on the MZ wagon D2, or the last one could have switched over and gotten a mislynch. Amiko was right in that since I was wrong, I was giving scum the chance to switch over to MZ easily. The fact that they didn't makes me feel that one of Palmar/sqrt/Haru is scum. I've already explained why I don't think sqrt and Haru are scum, so that leaves me with Palmar for tomorrow's lynch. | ||
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I can agree with the first half of the lynch list XD | ||
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Mderg disagrees with the jabber lynch in his first post. He says I'm his top scumread based on me not immediately giving a reason for my vote, but doesn't respond in any way to my actual reasoning. This is the EXACT SAME THING that gobble did all game. Mderg really, really hard defends jabber, but despite a scumread on me for my super scummy vote w/o explanation, he doesn't place a vote. He doesn't try to get people off of jabber, he just tries to show that he's defending a townie. Chrom mentions this here: On May 29 2014 06:12 mderg wrote: The thing is that it´s difficult to make cases, if everyone does the same. It´s not like I have completely ignored others but sadly there´s limited information to go on. Chrom is incredibly critical of mderg's play D1, and he ends up dead D2. D2 he votes MZ, disappears for 23 hours, then switches to SlOosh. At the point he switches to SlOosh, the impetus is pretty strong behind that wagon. There's pretty much no way scum can lynch MZ unless all three of them jump onto him, something that scum rarely like to do. He also really firmly agrees with what Amiko says, so it could very easily be a bus. This firm agreement also makes it really difficult to back off of, especially if he tries to do it to mislynch MZ and we later find that SlOosh is scum. Mderg couldn't have switched his vote without looking really, really suspicious. He's then roleblocked N2, which made him look even more townie after the lynch. Could be real, but could also be solidifying him as town after a successful bus. The SlOosh lynch and the roleblock made me kinda ignore mderg as a suspect, but after filtering him he could certainly be the last scum. I'll look at palmar after class, but I think the thing I found scummiest about him was how quickly he appeared when I questioned the SlOosh lynch. Maybe he's town and he's being honest about not being able to play a lot on the weekend, maybe he's scum and he saw an opportunity to throw the thread into chaos D3 and secure a mislynch. That's really the only thing about that situation that I found really scummy about him though, since he'd been on MZ forever and clearly wanted MZ lynched over sloosh the entire time. Class time, be back later~ | ||
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