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roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 19:17 GMT
#412
Mocsta and IAmRobik will be playing on this account
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 19:27 GMT
#414
On June 11 2014 04:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 02:39 IAmRobik wrote:
On June 10 2014 15:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 10 2014 04:07 IAmRobik wrote:
I will be in SF from 11-13 and then I will be in Calistoga 13 (eve) thru 15, returning back to SF/Berkeley 15-17th. Flying out redeye on the 17th.

Anyone trying to stalk me, feel free.




having said that, you scare the shit out of me slamjam

SSON I have enough homo depot where I live, where u r going is nothing special. So I will stick with Davis because farmboy gonna want outta the north faster than you could say "liberal"

U ain't got nothin PHEEAR naw naw

PHEEAR

Fwiw do not rent anything but Prius in Berkeley

In fact walk. The greenpeace is not peace, it is war

I mean, if you wanna grab a beer and teach me your tongues, I'm down. I won't be renting a car in Berkeley. In fact, I won't have a car at all there, so I will rely on BART and friends for transportation, as well as my two feet.

Let me know what days work for you. You can PM me your digits.

Are you sure that you are american? ^_^

^_^
But yeah, Berkeley is 100% walkable, unless you live in the hills, in which case the climb up is a fucking whore.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 19:34 GMT
#417
On June 11 2014 04:30 s0Lstice wrote:
?

I agree

Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 20:46 GMT
#441
#TOWNHYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 20:50 GMT
#448
On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first

therefore the first six people to post are scum

gg

Try English.
And Logic.

But, like, seriously, like, what does this, like, even, like, mean?.....Like
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 20:53 GMT
#455
This is a really weird reaction from Palmar.

If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post.

On June 11 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote:
I didn't get my role yet.

Scumclaim. I know I'm mafia because I requested it and I also know I haven't received my role, so I can only assume that mafia gets roles sent last.

Nailed you, bitch.


On June 11 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote:
Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb.

Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 20:56 GMT
#464
On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves


another good point.

god im so confused.

this game is really hard.

can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing.

shit i hope nobody notices me omg.

I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:03 GMT
#477
On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves


another good point.

god im so confused.

this game is really hard.

can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing.

shit i hope nobody notices me omg.

I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum


You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well.

##Vote: Roundaboud

I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:05 GMT
#481
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!

The difference between me and mocsta posting style is night and day. Everyone would be able to insta-tell. Plus, he's from Aussieland or something. He'll be posting at stupid hours.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:08 GMT
#487
Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:10 GMT
#490
On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!


This post is Howling like a boss.

Why?

Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you?

The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:11 GMT
#492
On June 11 2014 06:08 batsnacks wrote:
Confirmed scum Palmar can wait I want to policy the hydra today because I hate hydras.

Also this is pretty funny coming from a hydra:

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:
You know how I play...


##Vote roundabound

I fucking hate hydras too, but I really wanted to play and I will have absolutely no time from the 13-15th and I didn't want to not play and I didn't want to be modkilled. Hence, hydraville, population me, mocsta, chewy and foolishness
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:13 GMT
#496
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:16 GMT
#502
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.

This is a reply to your logic that I'm trying to confuse people by using nicknames. Like what type of stupid ass shit is that. I'm not mafia, so your logic is terrible. Please learn how to draw actual conclusions and correct conclusions as opposed to just tunnelling on me cause you don't have anyone else to go on cause everyone is too big of a pussy to do anything this game.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:17 GMT
#504
On June 11 2014 06:16 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


whatever you say IamRobik. And you know what I read you off of. You haven't been cleared yet and I don't think there is anyone who should clear anyone as of yet. Except of course Marv is obv village. How can this post not come from a townie mindset:

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:12 marvellosity wrote:
hello there


Did you mean to quote the post where I said you should obviously read me as town, cause you quoted a post that wasn't even directed at you..........?
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:18 GMT
#507
On June 11 2014 06:18 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:16 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.

This is a reply to your logic that I'm trying to confuse people by using nicknames. Like what type of stupid ass shit is that. I'm not mafia, so your logic is terrible. Please learn how to draw actual conclusions and correct conclusions as opposed to just tunnelling on me cause you don't have anyone else to go on cause everyone is too big of a pussy to do anything this game.


Points you raised:

1. "stupid ass shit"
2. "I'm not mafia, so your logic is terrible"
3. "lern2play"
4. Everyone is a pussy

Good work

Points you raised:



Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:19 GMT
#509
Did Dandelion make a new account and put his location as US? like wtf is this shit.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:20 GMT
#510
On June 11 2014 06:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves


another good point.

god im so confused.

this game is really hard.

can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing.

shit i hope nobody notices me omg.

I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum


You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well.

##Vote: Roundaboud

I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play.

Why so defensive?

Not sure why that reads as defensive to you. I have no filter when I'm town, so I'll say whatever I'm thinking. What you quoted is the logic of why I made the post I made.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:24 GMT
#517
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:27 GMT
#521
On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.

Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.

Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:29 GMT
#524
On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.

lol

are you serious?

My next post expands on this, but yeah I'm serious as shit. I think he sees a possible opportunity arising and he's hopping all over it.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:33 GMT
#533
On June 11 2014 06:31 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.

Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.

Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote


I responded. sinani didn't. I really hit the jackpot when I voted you. I could not have hoped for a better reaction.

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:16 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Which one?


Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest

If you're town, you don't know how to read shit. If you're mafia...carry on. I'm not gonna let myself get mislynched.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:37 GMT
#537
On June 11 2014 06:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:29 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.

lol

are you serious?

My next post expands on this, but yeah I'm serious as shit. I think he sees a possible opportunity arising and he's hopping all over it.

You really think he thinks he can lynch you for what happened since the start of the game?

No. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna defend myself against bullshit and call people out for scummy ass behavior. I'm town. Voting on me is against your win condition if you're town. I felt like Banks might have had some sort of substance behind why he was thinking what he was thinking. Maybe he just wanted to put some early pressure to get a read off of me. But Batsnacks is a nobody and if a nobody is going to throw bullshit my way I'm going to make sure that everyone sees that it's bullshit.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 21:39 GMT
#542
On June 11 2014 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:37 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:32 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:29 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
[quote]
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.

lol

are you serious?

My next post expands on this, but yeah I'm serious as shit. I think he sees a possible opportunity arising and he's hopping all over it.

You really think he thinks he can lynch you for what happened since the start of the game?

No. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna defend myself against bullshit and call people out for scummy ass behavior. I'm town. Voting on me is against your win condition if you're town. I felt like Banks might have had some sort of substance behind why he was thinking what he was thinking. Maybe he just wanted to put some early pressure to get a read off of me. But Batsnacks is a nobody and if a nobody is going to throw bullshit my way I'm going to make sure that everyone sees that it's bullshit.

You are making friends quickly I guess.

[ ] care
[x] don't care
[x] I WANT TO MOTHA FUCKIN WIN!
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 23:06 GMT
#638
Fucked up and posted on my account. Reposting:

On June 11 2014 08:01 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 07:29 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Robik Whered you go bbygirl? What do you think about sinani?

Left work and drove home. Catching up now. I am deep in sinani's pocket if he's maf.

On June 11 2014 08:03 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT is town as fuck -- whoever was questioning his motives earlier.

On June 11 2014 08:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Also, that guy who made a case on me earlier is prolly town. I can't believe no one gave him town points.

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Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 23:18 GMT
#652
Sandro. Please to be town. Your maf game #1 scary
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June 10 2014 23:22 GMT
#657
I'd analyze Koshi's shitty analysis post, but it's already been done. He did go back and edit stuff though when he was posting, so yeah, maf lean. That and coming into a thread, posting something meaningless and then coming back with a huge post is scummy.
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June 10 2014 23:23 GMT
#661
On June 11 2014 08:22 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 08:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 11 2014 08:13 sandroba wrote:
koshi half your town reads are baseless and terrible and one of your scum leans town to me. This looks like pretend hard mode.

Yup. Glad I'm not the only one who hated that post


Hate is a strong word but I did disagree with Koshi a bit. He had two of my village reads as his wolf reads so that was lame.



Koshi can you go into a little more detail on TicaTic? It felt to me you had stronger feelings for Chrom but voted Tic Y4?

Shit, why didn't i say the last part? I was thinking it.
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Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 23:24 GMT
#664
On June 11 2014 08:23 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 08:16 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 08:15 sandroba wrote:
hi =)

you do realise you're going to have to be super-sexy after your tryhard mode in Catastrophe.

Taking umbrage with that Koshi monstrosity is a good start

No promisses. Not sure if I have the will to read this thread in detail if the amount of shit posting stays on this pace. I hope it's only because it just started.
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 08:16 Koshi wrote:
No sorry my towns are town.

You misunderstand, I'm not I'm not saying they are mafia, I'm saying you are.

LOOOOOOOOOL
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Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 23:30 GMT
#674
We should let more mafia post
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Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 23:35 GMT
#682
Banks,

How long do you think it took Koshi to make the post and the case against Chrome. I'm asking because I wonder if he thought that people were thinking that Chrome was scummy from his play and what he was saying and his push away from me and onto that other dude, and that's why he spent time on it or whether he's towny for having a different opinion from the masses.
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Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 23:36 GMT
#684
On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves

On June 11 2014 05:53 Palmar wrote:
Policy lynch for calling mafia wolves.
##Vote yamato77

On June 11 2014 05:56 Tehpoofter wrote:
This is a very village reaction.

I found this chain of posts very amusing haha

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 23:37 GMT
#686
marv,

did you read what I wrote about palmar? if yes, thoughts on my conclusion? If not, go read it and then same question.
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Niue881 Posts
June 10 2014 23:37 GMT
#688
oh shit, i think i'm being tagged out.
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June 10 2014 23:39 GMT
#692
I'll make it easy on you marv,

On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote:
This is a really weird reaction from Palmar.

If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post.

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote:
I didn't get my role yet.

Scumclaim. I know I'm mafia because I requested it and I also know I haven't received my role, so I can only assume that mafia gets roles sent last.

Nailed you, bitch.


Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote:
Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb.



Don't give me that "idgaf" bs.
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 00:01 GMT
#718
On June 11 2014 08:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
JAY I'd like some clarification on your opinion of roundabound. Initially you questioned him for the same stuff batsnacks went after him but later on you agreed with chrom when he called roundabound town. I'd like a straight up read from you plox.

Gonna go play some CS:GO

I think you read the scenario incorrectly. He read chrome town for the way chrome analyzed the situation with regards to me. I don't think JAT has given a definitive read on me.

What are your reads on anyone besides me?

Do you think my play this game lines up with my play in Cell Mafia?
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 00:04 GMT
#722
ExO, how many games of mafia have you played IRL/forums?
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June 11 2014 00:08 GMT
#725
Caught up.

To add to the current discussion: I have nothing new to raise.

~moc

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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 00:13 GMT
#727
LOL @ anyone reading ExO scummy
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June 11 2014 00:17 GMT
#729
On June 11 2014 09:09 ExO_ wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I've played several in the format that can be seen here:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.starkingdoms.com/community/discussion/3281/werewolves-of-the-caribbean-night-1-to-turn-daytime-noon-est-611#Item_9


Never IRL or on TL before. Already it's much more serious here, but people also seem to be quick to get out and make judgements of people based on nothing. I don't think you can learn too much about people's alignment from the post on the first day, and yet that's what apparently I and everybody else is expected to do. What if good guy#1 says good guy#2 is scum, and then in the next few days good guy #1 is killed. Well everybody remembers good guy#2 says good guy#1 is scum so they kill him. And now 2 good guys are dead.


So I'd rather not rush out my feelings on people because I don't have feelings on people yet. If I had to commit a little bit, I think poofter is okay despite him voting for me, but that's about it

ExO_

Indulge me please.

These innate feelings for poofter.

Do you think his reasoning is:
-plausible?
-committed?
-other?

~moc
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June 11 2014 00:18 GMT
#730
On June 11 2014 09:17 TicaTica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 09:08 roundabound wrote:
Caught up.

To add to the current discussion: I have nothing new to raise.

~moc


What be your read on Robik?

If he wasnt my hydra I would say town.

Considering he is my hydra, I would say the opposite of TicaTica.

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 00:21 GMT
#736
On June 11 2014 09:20 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 09:18 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 09:17 TicaTica wrote:
On June 11 2014 09:08 roundabound wrote:
Caught up.

To add to the current discussion: I have nothing new to raise.

~moc


What be your read on Robik?

If he wasnt my hydra I would say town.

Considering he is my hydra, I would say the opposite of TicaTica.

~moc


So you will be voting TicaTica soon I expect? CAre to elaborate on why you and him are opposites?

I dont know what TicaTica is.

It was my meager attempt at wit towards a stupid question.

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 00:23 GMT
#737
On June 11 2014 09:19 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 09:13 roundabound wrote:
LOL @ anyone reading ExO scummy


Do not mock me sir. This is why you're not in Tehpoofter's village. What has ExO done townie?

If he's a noob and mafia, he sees your medic claim and runs into Maf QT and starts yelling, OMGOGOMG DID YOU GUIZE JUST SEE BANKS CLAIMED MEDIC. WE HAZ TO KEEL HIM TONIGHT! He gets instantly shot down and he doesn't bring it up. He doesn't do what he just did and blatantly role hunt in the thread.
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 00:29 GMT
#744
That was totally mocsta guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!



*walks away in shame*
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 00:30 GMT
#745
Yamato has to be scum; or a completely changed man

~moc
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roundabound
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June 11 2014 00:39 GMT
#751
On June 11 2014 09:36 Bill Murray wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!


This post is Howling like a boss.

Why?

Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you?

The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town.

yeah im just going to go ahead and vote you for this post

if youre town (im unfamiliar with you) learn how to speak. this seems like muddled mafia talk. you also seem very nervous, and having to desperately rely on buddying / some weird sense of authority the first couple pages

##vote: roundabound

p.s. i like chairman saying he was going to vote the first person on 25 and actually doing so. mafia aren't lighthearted enough to troll (typically)

Let me know if you have any more qualifiers to add on.

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 00:43 GMT
#763
On June 11 2014 09:40 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 09:30 roundabound wrote:
Yamato has to be scum; or a completely changed man

~moc


What about him makes him auto Wolf here?

He didnt call me scum.

Thats yamato town trademark.

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 00:50 GMT
#785
On June 11 2014 09:49 Alakaslam wrote:
I said mah city was gone, I haven't populated it yet

Can you shut up please.

We are having an alignment indicative conversation here.

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 01:59 GMT
#869
I suck at hydraing

On June 11 2014 10:47 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm gonna sheep poofter all game.

On June 11 2014 10:54 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 10:50 kushm4sta wrote:
On June 11 2014 10:47 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm gonna sheep poofter all game.


are you impressed with his reads so far?

Don't know what his reads are. Pretty much just calling him my top town.
Like, I don't know that I agree with him that ExO is maf. I don't know about his Koshi read, but kinda agree with it. I'm wishy washy as shit about Koshi. I agree with him 100% that I'm town. Agree Chrome is town.

Turns out I know what most of his reads are. Mine don't exactly align with his, but they're close.

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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 02:03 GMT
#874
Yes. Mocsta signs his posts.
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June 11 2014 02:24 GMT
#887
On June 11 2014 11:09 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 10:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On June 11 2014 10:50 kushm4sta wrote:
On June 11 2014 10:47 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm gonna sheep poofter all game.


are you impressed with his reads so far?

Don't know what his reads are. Pretty much just calling him my top town.
Like, I don't know that I agree with him that ExO is maf. I don't know about his Koshi read, but kinda agree with it. I'm wishy washy as shit about Koshi. I agree with him 100% that I'm town. Agree Chrome is town.

Turns out I know what most of his reads are. Mine don't exactly align with his, but they're close.

so you're going to sheep someone that isn't your hydra head? seems scummy to me

if you're maf you know alignments but you're unwilling to accept the opinion of someone you KNOW who their role is AS TOWN?

##vote: roundabound

When he was around for the 30 or so minutes, we were chatting in our QT and had drastically opposing reads.
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 02:27 GMT
#888
BM
(+)
Appears to be making an effort at problem solving and/or reading.

(-)
Constantly flip-flops over every detail.


Outcomes:
(1) Bad townie failing to lead the town
OR
(2) Scum successfully destroying all cred


Conclusion:
#2



BM
What sayeth you.

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 02:37 GMT
#896
Are you saying that I'm not allowed to have reads? Like what you're saying is so asinine!

You're starting to push on me for saying I'm gonna sheep Banks, when the whole point of me making that post was to say that I read banks as town.

You're either scum trying to twist what I'm saying to suit your own needs or you're just bad town with terrible reading comp.
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June 11 2014 02:41 GMT
#901
On June 11 2014 11:36 Bill Murray wrote:
Without someone like Roundabound protecting players like batsnacks we wouldn't have the mafia... they are the players that insulate them

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 11:34 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 11:32 Bill Murray wrote:
So now I have 2 people I've cast suspicion on FoS me

Mafia frequently do this to me

I also have them both as having an associative tell so I'd call this near chainsawing


Instead of saying this you could have told me why you liked exo's early posts. Then it might just be 1 person with a FOS on you.

remember when marv said "anyone that thinks exo is scum is trash"? +1

And you continue to make shit up.
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June 11 2014 02:43 GMT
#903
On June 11 2014 11:40 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 11:37 roundabound wrote:
Are you saying that I'm not allowed to have reads? Like what you're saying is so asinine!

You're starting to push on me for saying I'm gonna sheep Banks, when the whole point of me making that post was to say that I read banks as town.

You're either scum trying to twist what I'm saying to suit your own needs or you're just bad town with terrible reading comp.

my reading comprehension is bad? way to derail my case on you into the most recent point. you're not even responding to my question. what you're doing there is something only scum would do, yes.

the thing is, that is in no way the extent to which i have a scumread on you. mocsta would get by, but you've been too frantic, too buddying.

CAUSE I FUCKING DISAGREE WITH HIS READS. WHY WOULD I DO THAT AS MAFIA!?!? WE WOULD SIT AND AGREE ON A STRATEGY AND PUSH THE SAME WAY!
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June 11 2014 02:47 GMT
#907
On June 11 2014 11:30 Bill Murray wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 11:17 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 10:26 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 11 2014 10:24 Tehpoofter wrote:
yamato talk to me about marv how does wolf marv play? Like what should I be looking for in his game?

marv is very hard to read, but he would be spotlighting more as scum. unless he has a PR on scum, like vig, he is most likely blue/green town


Spotlighting? Like being more outspoken?

the aggressive alpha male type, unlike Ace. Have you played with Ace? The Palmar type... he is totally alpha, but he doesn't really go out of his way until something hits

I used to do it all the time... but it's not good to do.

On June 11 2014 11:24 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 11:09 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 11 2014 10:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On June 11 2014 10:50 kushm4sta wrote:
On June 11 2014 10:47 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm gonna sheep poofter all game.


are you impressed with his reads so far?

Don't know what his reads are. Pretty much just calling him my top town.
Like, I don't know that I agree with him that ExO is maf. I don't know about his Koshi read, but kinda agree with it. I'm wishy washy as shit about Koshi. I agree with him 100% that I'm town. Agree Chrome is town.

Turns out I know what most of his reads are. Mine don't exactly align with his, but they're close.

so you're going to sheep someone that isn't your hydra head? seems scummy to me

if you're maf you know alignments but you're unwilling to accept the opinion of someone you KNOW who their role is AS TOWN?

##vote: roundabound

When he was around for the 30 or so minutes, we were chatting in our QT and had drastically opposing reads.

why would you sheep someone that isn't the same role as you if you're town?

On June 11 2014 11:27 roundabound wrote:
BM
(+)
Appears to be making an effort at problem solving and/or reading.

(-)
Constantly flip-flops over every detail.


Outcomes:
(1) Bad townie failing to lead the town
OR
(2) Scum successfully destroying all cred


Conclusion:
#2



BM
What sayeth you.

~moc

I'd say you're OMGUSing which is fine because i have 0 votes on me (1 if you vote me) and you have 3-4 on you
Thank you for proving your grasp of thread sentiment.


People of this town.
Beware the foe titled "BillMurray".

This chap enjoys casting the illusion of stupidity; but rather is acutely aware of his actions: cause, and effect.
I was exposed first-hand to the sorcery of this vile conjurer in a PYP game containing the infamous "INjustice vigi".

So join me people of this town to eradicate the evil that is trying to lead this town.
For BM is a plague positioning himself amongst the awkward NK, and useless town folk brackets.
Or in other words: The ideal position scum want to be in.

##Vote: BillMurray
~moc

P.S.
Here is his buddy
On June 11 2014 11:38 ketomai wrote:
I'm going to place my vote with roundabound until I can catch up with the thread. Exo is the one running against him and there's not much that indicates scum for me yet.

I'll post again tomorrow after work with some more detailed opinion.

This thread is incredibly hard to read/follow on my phone.

This post is an oxymoron at heart.

"Theres nothing much that indicates scum" - Regarding Exo.
"Until I catch up with the thread" - Regarding this knowledge

"So how about I just vote roundabout for shits n gigglez."
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 02:48 GMT
#908
BM, your logic is so fucking bad. You're assuming I'm a trashcan noob based off of your posts. If you think I'm a dumpster noob and mocsta is a good player, why the fuck wouldn't I just sit back and let mocsta post? Your logic is the only thing that's flailing.
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 02:51 GMT
#911
On June 11 2014 11:44 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 11:29 batsnacks wrote:
Okay I'm caught up here's my notes so far:


Sinani - Scum. He treads too lightly and unsuccessfully tries to dodge the spotlight. He tries to direct the spotlight away from himself.

Chairman Ray - Too impressive a performance to be town. Leaning heavily toward mafia.

tehpoofer - Scum. My notes say "gave a lame apology." Voted roundabout for bad reasons, then unvoted roundabout for equally bad reasons. Voted for Koshi and switched soon after without pressuring Koshi at all. Soft defended sinani early on, then voted him for bad reasons, then unvoted him for bad reasons. Noticing a pattern. Tries to look like he's "helping" by pointing out when the thread started for kush. Tries to look like he's "helping" by explaining what a hydra is. Tries to look like he's "helping" by explaining what OMGUS means. Paraphrases other people's posts for them.

roundabout - Will probably be my vote for the rest of day 1. Looked way too nervous when I went after him early. Plus I hate hydras.

vayne - Skipped early game. Skipped more because "migraine." FOS

sandroba - Gets town cred for calling out Koshi first.

exo - "I'm new guys please take it easy on me." FOS

Bill Murray - My notes say "he liked exo's early posts." All of exo's early posts were questions about terminology that he could have easily googled. FOS

TicaTica - Expert troll? Null read.


you try googling hydra and see if you can get info on what it is. I tried searching for it when people were asking about hydras pre-game and all I came up with is a zerg unit that shoots both air and ground.
LOL

hydra has 1body with multiple heads.

In mafia this refers to
1 account with mulitple heads.

Lets move on please shall we.

Opinions on BM please.
~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 02:52 GMT
#914
Holy shit lynch Ketomai next
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June 11 2014 02:53 GMT
#916
On June 11 2014 11:51 ketomai wrote:
@roundabout I skimmed both situations and you were the more likely one of the two; I thought that should've been obvious. I'm casting the vote early in case something happens so I don't get instant modkilled. Obviously when I'm done reading the thread and thinking about things I'll most probably give my opinions and change it up. Until then, you can pretty much disregard my vote for you as filler after a cursory glance at both situations.

This is so fallacious I refuse to accept it can originate from a townie.

So early game, when reads are at their absolute weakest.

Of the two vote leaders, AT LEAST one must be scum.

Ridiculous.

If you are genuinely worried about modkills, vote "No Lynch".

!moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 02:56 GMT
#921
Actually
~ and !

are next to each other

Its good to know you are humorous as scum, vile creature.

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 02:57 GMT
#922
On June 11 2014 11:55 kushm4sta wrote:
im quite curious how serious mocsta is, because he didn't give much of reasoning. and bm has a lot a lot of content

Why aren't you calling me scum then.

You can join Ketormai on the BM support wagon.

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 03:00 GMT
#924
On June 11 2014 11:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 11:38 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 11:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
yo batsnacks, talk to me about marv. Read his filter first so it's fresh in your mind.


I've read every post in this thread. I am having a really difficult time reading Marv. If there is something specific he's done you want to talk about I'm happy to talk about it with you.

I find his lack of actual play somewhat concerning. He's content to sit back and call people idiots and bad but very hesitant to actually jump into things. I don't like it.

I dont see how this is alignment indicative at this stage of the game.

Marv often waits for content and then delves deeper.

If anything, Sandroba/MArv coming to an identical conclusion at the same time regarding Koshi is a good thing.
Well to me at least, because I had the same opinino when I read it.

~moc
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June 11 2014 03:06 GMT
#928
On June 11 2014 12:00 ketomai wrote:
How is fallacious if I'm not even making an argument, lol. I do not think you are scum, just moreso than Exo at this very moment.

6. Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain.

It's also not very smart of me to just eventually vote for you anyway if I were mafia.

If I were mafia, it''d be a lot easier to just stash away my vote somewhere since your bandwagon is already gaining steam. If I were trying to save exo as mafia than him flipping would eventually lead to my demise.

Don't worry, lol.


Ze hole, is getting ze deeper.

(1) I am not accusing you of making an argument.
I am stating that your belief is incorrect; the very definition of fallacious.

(2) You do not think I am scum? Why is this even thrown out. Clearly you are now trying to satiate me to get out of the limelight.

(3) You can vote "No Lynch" if you are worried about being modkilled. A half-assed vote on the vote leader, is not a reasonable excuse for 4hrs into the game.....

(4) If you were mafia, now is the perfect time to vote me. For lazy people who don't read and take the same avenue you just PURPORTED, it gives them someone to vote for.

(5) There is certainly a lot of focus on Exo from you. Having said that, lynching IAR/me is certainly a bigger coup for mafia than lycning an unknown Exo.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 03:13 GMT
#933
On June 11 2014 12:11 ketomai wrote:
By the way, I guarantee my vote will change tomorrow unless I actually start thinking you're mafia.

How's that? It's in writing ok?

Even worse bud.

Thanks for the appeal to emotion though.

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 11 2014 03:16 GMT
#939
On June 11 2014 12:10 ketomai wrote:
Well, whether or not my belief is incorrect or not doesn't matter because it's inconsequential. I'm trying to reassure you because you're so up in arms about it but you can do what you want, I don't really care.

Again, I'll post a more detailed analysis if I can get home early enough to read tomorrow. I'm done replying to you for now!
I love finding mafia day 1.

People of this town.
Note how ketomai manages to self-flagellate

Translation: Hey man, leave me alone. I'm just posting for the sake of posting but want to go back hiding in the shadows.

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#940
On June 11 2014 12:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
kush should probably die too, btw.

Agreed.

Hes got no kahunas this game

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#957
On June 11 2014 12:30 TicaTica wrote:
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On June 11 2014 12:23 Rainbows wrote:
On June 11 2014 12:17 TicaTica wrote:
Is Rainbows around still? If he be, then peeky at batsnacks. His read post looks being rather off. Four Fifth of his null read are "easy pickings" read. His four wolfy reads are dastardly off base being my opinion (exception perhaps Chairman Ray). Only one of wolfy reads is even developed which being tehpoofter and the mindset is quite hmmmm unique. His reads look very fishing to me. What is your take?


I agree that the nulls were probably not even needed to be mentioned. The scum reads we OK, I don't agree with them all. Kind of sparse but it's the early game. I saw the post initially and it didn't strike me as super odd at the time.

What do you mean his mindset is unique? He's saying he saw a pattern in tehpoofter and he's looking likes he is helping. It's not a terrible analysis, just not fantastic.

How he thinks make people scummy very odd. His read are nonsense; summarize play and calling it scummy. Feeling very odd. Mayhaps he is just less good of player and am not familiar with me.
Should we be familiar with you?
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#958
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#973
On June 11 2014 12:45 Rainbows wrote:
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On June 11 2014 12:40 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 12:37 Rainbows wrote:
On June 11 2014 12:34 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 12:23 Rainbows wrote:
On June 11 2014 12:17 TicaTica wrote:
Is Rainbows around still? If he be, then peeky at batsnacks. His read post looks being rather off. Four Fifth of his null read are "easy pickings" read. His four wolfy reads are dastardly off base being my opinion (exception perhaps Chairman Ray). Only one of wolfy reads is even developed which being tehpoofter and the mindset is quite hmmmm unique. His reads look very fishing to me. What is your take?


I agree that the nulls were probably not even needed to be mentioned. The scum reads we OK, I don't agree with them all. Kind of sparse but it's the early game. I saw the post initially and it didn't strike me as super odd at the time.

What do you mean his mindset is unique? He's saying he saw a pattern in tehpoofter and he's looking likes he is helping. It's not a terrible analysis, just not fantastic.


So Rainbows...

On June 11 2014 12:15 Rainbows wrote:
batsnacks how do you feel about CR so far? Since his post was directed at you.


Did you ever get your answer?


You generally answered "Your posts are too intelligent and thorough", which means he is mafia. I meant specifically what do you think CR's goal (assuming, he is town) this game, because the post where he asks you a bunch of questions seems to be irrelevant.


If CR is town I assume his goal is to lynch mafia?

I'm not trying to argue or disagree or whatever, but help me understand, why were his questions irrelevant?


If CR is town, he is trying to figure out your intentions with your reads post. To see if YOU are mafia. If this is the case, why does he ask "Why not Palmar?" or "Why tica = null". He asks a question about every one of your reads. Feels like homework. Not all of the questions were bad, just some like "why is this scummy" when that should have been self-explanatory.

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June 12 2014 00:28 GMT
#1432
Hi,

BM went from ugly duckling into beautiful swan.
##Unvote

Robik is flying & im playing video mafia.

Defaulting to Ketomai who hasnt provided any of his promised analysis.
##Vote: Ketomai

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#1435
On June 12 2014 09:31 Erandorr wrote:
why isnt foolishness doing something you can sheep did those guys get scum this game

Where are you up to in the thread, pls

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#1438
On June 12 2014 09:36 Erandorr wrote:
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On June 12 2014 09:34 roundabound wrote:
On June 12 2014 09:31 Erandorr wrote:
why isnt foolishness doing something you can sheep did those guys get scum this game

Where are you up to in the thread, pls

~moc


im doing filter reading right now of people who I know can be useful except marv hes a spammer

Do what you want.

My suggestion is to read the thread. Theres still 24hrs.

Selective reading, produces selective context, and meaningless reads.

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#1449
On June 12 2014 09:45 Erandorr wrote:
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On June 12 2014 09:39 roundabound wrote:
On June 12 2014 09:36 Erandorr wrote:
On June 12 2014 09:34 roundabound wrote:
On June 12 2014 09:31 Erandorr wrote:
why isnt foolishness doing something you can sheep did those guys get scum this game

Where are you up to in the thread, pls

~moc


im doing filter reading right now of people who I know can be useful except marv hes a spammer

Do what you want.

My suggestion is to read the thread. Theres still 24hrs.

Selective reading, produces selective context, and meaningless reads.

~moc


If you think that I have enough time to read the entire thread and think selective reading produces bad reads that do not benifit town and probably by that logic let scum get away with bad posting, you still would let me do what I want? You are so sweet

I try to be as accommodating to all types of filth.

Thank you for the kind words.

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June 12 2014 02:42 GMT
#1462
Terrible post Chair.

Im playing vid mafia.
& robik is in a plane.

Tough mammories.

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June 12 2014 15:10 GMT
#1654
I spent the entirety of my flight dreaming about this game and waiting to post..I had all these ideas floating around. Then I get to SF, find a hotel, proceed to go to the closest dive bar (this bar was amazeballs), get blackout drunk and forget everything that I was going to say
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June 12 2014 15:37 GMT
#1659
Marv, have you solved the game yet or are you mafia? You've had your 12-24 hours of quietness.

Unless of course you're looking for me to carry you again
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June 12 2014 15:40 GMT
#1664
On June 13 2014 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 13 2014 00:37 roundabound wrote:
Marv, have you solved the game yet or are you mafia? You've had your 12-24 hours of quietness.

Unless of course you're looking for me to carry you again

i think you're not reading the game.

Pretty solid assumption. I read up to like pg 50 or 60. It's 830am and way too early to process shit that I read. Will be doing that later. I'm counting on Moc to carry us until we get nk'd or until I have enough free time to contribute.

Having said that, hopefully he's more right about the game than I am since we've disagreed on a lot of shit up to now.
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June 12 2014 22:05 GMT
#2024
On June 13 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
someone feel like making themselves look town and look at Rainbows?

I'm not sure I like how he was on s&b, then he essentially agreed with my case but didn't move wagons. like... he said that koc could be bad or mafia, but he seemed way too certain on s&b being mafia who didn't seem to have done enough to warrant that certainty vs the umming and ahhing about koc

dunno if i'm making too much of that or what.

He's town.

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#2038
On June 13 2014 07:18 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 13 2014 07:17 mattisfoolish wrote:
On June 13 2014 07:16 marvellosity wrote:
well that's 2 people. i guess i leave rainbows alone for now :o

If it makes you feel better I checked all his past games before coming to that conclusion.

would you mind telling me what led you to that conclusion then?

90% chance that was matt posting and if so that was 100% a lie.
If it was Phil, it's still 100% a lie
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June 12 2014 22:22 GMT
#2042
SlamJam,

Will be leaving SF tomorrow @ 1pm. Going out with some friends tonight to watch Game 4. Coming back to Berkeley on the 15th-17th.

Beer? Whiskey?
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#2047
On June 13 2014 07:22 Koshi wrote:
Robik could you check JaT, MZ and Chrom?

##Foolishness read: MZ

Mocsta is in charge of doing actual work cause I don't have time to do real stuff yet. I'm sitting at 21st Amendment brewery right now just keeping up with the thread. I didn't even know who we lynched until like 10 mins ago. Go town! Many clears. Not sure who they are, but yeah, we should clear the people who pushed on the guy that got lynched. But prolly less credit to those who jumped on half way or something and those that piled on at the end when it was clear he was the lynch (if that's what happened. Just assuming it is)

I liked Chrome and JaT early d1. Don't remember any posts from MZ. Can lynch. Or vigi shoot.
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#2051
On June 13 2014 07:29 Koshi wrote:
How can you like JaT early?


Because he said this.

On June 11 2014 07:45 justanothertownie wrote:
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On June 11 2014 07:44 Chromatically wrote:
I think round is town btw. I like how he's clearly not editing how he posts to seem more "townie" (something scum are focused on). I also like that he didn't even know who was pushing on him when I asked him about it. Scum would be more likely to notice that they're under pressure and be worried about it, because their goal is to not get lynched.

Townpile.

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June 12 2014 22:55 GMT
#2072
Marv,

Why'd you bus your teammate d1? That seems like a bad strat.
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June 12 2014 23:41 GMT
#2089
Hi.

Go Brazil !

Starting from page 75, but Robik told me the lynch result - awesome work guys keeping up the TL tradition !!

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June 13 2014 00:12 GMT
#2094
On June 13 2014 08:41 Koshi wrote:
Well MZ is calling me an idiot. I dont know if that counts.

koshi/MZ not m/m
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June 13 2014 01:27 GMT
#2100
Banks,

Personally I prefer vig on unreadable lurkers.

Allows us to use the lynch on people that are readable and produce associative information.

Players like Slam, Kush and others are solid choices for a vig.

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June 13 2014 01:33 GMT
#2103
Come join me Slam in vid mafia !

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#2304
On June 14 2014 00:31 ketomai wrote:
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On June 14 2014 00:17 mattisfoolish wrote:
On June 14 2014 00:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 14 2014 00:09 mattisfoolish wrote:
On June 13 2014 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
yes that's Fool.

no its matt

Well, I am somehow afraid this attempt to get you to speak will be futile but it would be really appreciated if you would give us at least some thoughts behind those reads or even in general.

sure!

MZ hasnt done anything this game while his town play usually has him actively speaking his mind and calling people out

Sandroba's town play includes destroying scum, while his mafia play includes lots of inactivity

The other 2 are not extremely substantiated but they have an off feel. For example ketomai seems like he has no confidence in any of what hes posting. Obi phil has a bad feeling about



I don't see the problem with not being confident about anything on the first day. In fact, the "stunning" case marv made for KoC actually did not seem that convincing to me personally. The lynch was so easy (among other reasons) that it makes me think he could possibly be bussing.

Maybe it's just my personal preference, but I like to use more concrete evidence like voting patterns and associative evidence, which is not available on the first day.

Yes! Marv evil. Ive been catching up and thats the thought thats constantly been circling inside my mind.

The fact that you said it makes me believe even more that I/we were right and you tland marv are teammates
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#2323
On June 14 2014 01:19 marvellosity wrote:
yes i randomly lynched my team-mate who was under no suspicion and lowered our KP for shits and giggles.

Well done roundabound.

I think the dude whose name starts with K TMId the shit out of that. I think it was a subconscious thing to do knowing that you are actually mafia and actually bussing your teammate. It also doesnt give you much credit if SnB is maf PR or whoever else was on the chopping block.

Boy you're too good to be true. Cant keep my eyes off of you.
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#2338
On June 14 2014 01:34 Holyflare wrote:
cop checking robik tonight

Are you rollswapping with me?
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June 13 2014 16:44 GMT
#2341
On phone. Too tough to search images. I have a baguette with spectacles and a really brightly colored green light saber. I may or may not be under 3 feet tall
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#2346
On June 14 2014 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
roundabound's filter is kinda terrible after the initial exchanges that made him look town.

Removing from townlist

This is a quality post. Get accused and just shoot down anyone who opposes you without cause. Must be nice to have this type of reputation.
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#2352
When im able to post, I am very active and give my opinions on thebgame. I cant speak for mocstas posts because I havent read the whole thread so I domt know when hes been around exactly. I think its silly to give a player of your caliber free reign for the lynch of a vanilla maf.

I find the K dude scummy and what he said felt like TMI. Youre not my top priority but I feel very nervous about what happened. If SnB is PR maf, I think the chance your maf increases like 100fold
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#2359
Allow Mexico
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#2420
On June 14 2014 05:37 marvellosity wrote:
omg holland are fucking DESTROYING spain

I know right!!

I thought it was sealed after the penalty, what an awesome header though to equalise.

+

Hi batsnacks

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June 13 2014 22:37 GMT
#2427
So....

The problem I had, still have, and may continue to experience with Ketomai is: for every attempt at contribution he makes, there is an additional of self-flagellation.

This is on par with the renown "newbie claim" where you sell yourself as inexperienced in the hopes of being ignored, and thus, blending in - the sacred mafia goal to survival.

TL;DR
Ketomai is actively attempting to blend in. Whilst this can be a town trait; Ketomai juggles this performance with fabricated arguments that are both simple to disprove and extremely superficial. Thus, I can only attribute this recurring behaviour to rolling mafia.


Pre KotC lynch
On June 11 2014 11:38 ketomai wrote:
I'm going to place my vote with roundabound until I can catch up with the thread. Exo is the one running against him and there's not much that indicates scum for me yet.

I'll post again tomorrow after work with some more detailed opinion.

This thread is incredibly hard to read/follow on my phone.

On June 11 2014 11:51 ketomai wrote:
@roundabout I skimmed both situations and you were the more likely one of the two; I thought that should've been obvious. I'm casting the vote early in case something happens so I don't get instant modkilled. Obviously when I'm done reading the thread and thinking about things I'll most probably give my opinions and change it up. Until then, you can pretty much disregard my vote for you as filler after a cursory glance at both situations.

On June 11 2014 12:10 ketomai wrote:
Well, whether or not my belief is incorrect or not doesn't matter because it's inconsequential. I'm trying to reassure you because you're so up in arms about it but you can do what you want, I don't really care.

Again, I'll post a more detailed analysis if I can get home early enough to read tomorrow. I'm done replying to you for now!

On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote:
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On June 12 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i noticed poofter's post on ketomai and i realized that ketomai still hasnt done anything and should still probably die. more votes on him pls.


I'm here and I realize you're just pressuring me to respond, but reading 50 straight pages of mostly spam is honestly exhausting (and impossible for me after a long day at work). I gave up in the middle and just took a cursory glance through filters and whatnot for current top votes. I also took a look at a few other people that showed up near the beginning of the thread. I'll try to keep up with the thread from now on. Hopefully there's less spam in the future because missing 1 day so far seems to be catastrophic.

Top votes:

Koshi: Leaning slightly towards mafia. Biggest flag is his lack of cooperation with town as noted by others. He doesn't really argue, he just tries to pass off his viewpoints on the grounds that it should be obvious. I'm willing to wait on how he responds now that he's under pressure now and after he's promised to be more cooperative, however. He hasn't really contributed much other than defending himself. Also, I disagree with pretty much everything he says, but that doesn't really make him more or less mafia.

Exo: Leaning slightly towards town. He doesn't spam up the thread and has only posted the few times he's confident in his opinion. However, his last post that also contained his vote jumped to a conclusion really fast without much evidence. The way he said it leaves room for change, like my own vote, so I'm also not too suspicious of that. It feels more like he honestly doesn't know who to vote for because there's so much spam/finger pointing as a newer player.

Roundabout: No read. When he was attacking me earlier I thought he was doing that to everyone to create some chaos, but after looking through the filters he hasn't really done much past the early game. The point about him not contributing much is true, but not enough grounds to seem mafia yet; the game is early. The jump on me was a bit strange since I, personally, felt it was useless garbage spamming up the thread, but I'll ignore that. I would like to see him post more now that the "heat" is off of him.

strongandbig: Seems a little bit like mafia. Would be the easy pick to vote but I'd love to see him defend himself first because like my suspicions for every one else after 1 day, I'm not sure. If anything, a lynch wouldn't be so bad just because he's not productive/working w/ the town.

ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying).

Chairman Ray: slightly town. So far everything he posts is pretty logical. I disagree a bit with his leaps on roundabout, but he's defended himself and arguments pretty well, so I like that. He brings up his own arguments to add to town discussion as well, which is usually good if they make sense.

MZ: Other than furthering the VA lynchwagon (unless I missed some great post about it), not enough info, no read.


Anyway I made a post because I promised it, but as you can see my knowledge of the thread is not very thorough yet. You should view these as my initial thoughts. I feel strongest about ritoky out of the people I checked so I'll vote on him for now to get him to speak out.

Another issue I have with this post is the focus on people that have votes.
I get on one hand that a time-poor person *may* go straight to the vote counts.
On the other hand, I can not fathom why a townie that is not literate with the thread would trust the votes of ANY person to then perform this analysis.

Again, for every positive action ketomai makes; it is self-countered with a more significant negative.



Post KotC lynch
On June 13 2014 11:57 ketomai wrote:
Nice job on the lynch. In light of that lynch, it changes my opinions on a lot of people and made me look at others. Of those here are the ones that concern me most:

sinani: I'm feeling mafia on this one.

-KoC admitted after he got lynched that he's quite bad in mafia. It's not out of the question that some of his early defenses could be actual mafia. He went along with KoC's badly supported agenda on batsnacks.
-He voted for KoC at the tipping point after it became pretty clear that KoC was going to get lynched already. He actually soft defended KoC before that and then after a couple more votes came in and KoC surpassed SnB, he conceded.

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On June 13 2014 02:29 sinani206 wrote:
On June 13 2014 02:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 13 2014 01:48 Amiko wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1:


Palmar (0): batsnacks
yamato77 (0): Palmar
roundabound (1): ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter, batsnacks, Chairman Ray, Bill Murray, Bill Murray, ketomai
sinani206 (0): Chromatically, Tehpoofter
Koshi (2): TicaTica, Tehpoofter, Rainbows, HaruRH, Chromatically, sinani206
TicaTica (0): Koshi
ExO_ (1): sandroba, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta
HolyFlare (0): Tehpoofter, Palmar
Bill Murray (0): roundabound
ketomai (2): ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter, Tehpoofter, roundabound
batsnacks (0): Chairman Ray, TheKingOfTheCats, Alakaslam
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Mattisfoolish, Bill Murray, Koshi
tehpoofter (1): Bill Murray, Palmar, VayneAuthority
strongandbig (7): Bill Murray, Palmar, Rainbows, Chairman Ray, ketomai, Alakaslam, HaruRH, Koshi
Chairman Ray (1): HaruRH, gumshoe, ExO_
Marvellosity (0): Tehpoofter
VayneAuthority (3): yamato77, kushm4sta, Meapak_Ziphh
Chromatically (1): ritoky
ritoky (0): ketomai
kushm4sta (3): ObiWanShinobi, HolyFlare, TheKingOfTheCats, ExO_
justanothertownie (0): Koshi, Palmar
ObiWanShinobi (1): TicaTica
TheKingOfTheCats (4): marvellosity, Palmar, justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi

Not voting (2): Erandorr, strongandbig



Currently strongandbig is set to be lynched with 7 votes! Day will end in

Remember: Voting is mandatory and has to be done in this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451311-tl-order-lxvi-thread-for-doing-of-the-voting
If there is a tie, the first person to reach that number of votes is lynched.

Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!


votes on me or kush at this point in the day are just lazy, save that pool of players for further use.


So it's lazy to still have votes on some of the leftover wagons because they should be concentrated on people who are actually going to be lynched, yet you are still the only person on poof? I'm not accusing you of anything, but I don't really see this as lazy. Can you elaborate?


Here, he's suggesting that there's nothing wrong with votes on ended bandwagons. Notice where his own vote is when he says this (on the antiquated Koshi wagon). While being on an inactive bandwagon is not exactly a 100% mafia tell (I am guilty as well), being present while having such a vote and being content with it is a lot more mafia. He also does not change his vote or provide any analysis aside from:

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On June 13 2014 02:30 sinani206 wrote:
On June 13 2014 02:30 marvellosity wrote:
Look. I think KoC has a really good chance of flipping mafia. I think people should vote for him.

I don't really think s&b is mafia.

If there needs to be an alternative wagon, I think it should be ketomai.


I'm not opposed to a ketomai lynch.


Here it's already apparent that KoC is the case that should be focused on here yet he ignores marv (and marv called him out on it) and just tries to bring up my case again. He doesn't actually "investigate" KoC until he gets called out on ignoring it. In fact, the people he has problems with in his post history are myself and koshi, who a lot of people were attacking anyway. I obviously know I'm not mafia and I'm starting to think Koshi is less mafia, which makes his cases even more suspicious to me personally.

Anyway, besides that just look at his filter. He's basically contributed nothing while going for the easy low hanging fruits. That combined with his suspicious voting and lack of proactivity in analyzing big cases or any cases makes me think he's mafia.

+ Show Spoiler +

Exo: starting to think he's more mafia

On June 13 2014 00:40 ExO_ wrote:
I actually agree on Kush. When I read his filter, it doesn't even look like he's trying to play. He responded to Obi and HF by saying they should lynch him, and he's the jester. I'm not sure whether to interpret this as him being sarcastic and dismissive, or him just not wanting to play this game. Either way, I don't see him as being helpful in the future if he is going to continue like this.

##unvote

##Vote kushm4sta


I'm having a very hard time determining what should indicate mafia, and what should indicate town (especially since it's day 1 and nothing has actually happened yet.) I'm forming opinions of people easily enough, but just thinking, for example, that marvel can be very rude doesn't make him mafia. And people who have been helpful and kind aren't necessarily town.


Similarly to sinani, he ignores a lot of big cases. In this post he ignores the KoC train while it's happening (and never addresses it despite being there the whole time) for almost a policy lynch on kush (with not much evidence given). He also in this post milks the newbie card, that everyone has been giving him a pass for, a little too much. For someone who's having a hard time "[indicating] who's mafia", he doesn't seem to put much effort into finding them. His accusations usually do not have a lot of backing, and in this case, his lack of accusations over the course of the whole day combined with that puts him over the top for me.

I find this an extremely miscontrued and fabricated depiction of Sinani.
Firstly, Ketomai takes issue that Sinani did not consider KotC as a lynch, inferring anyone who does not vote scum: equivocates to scum.
Secondly, he completely ignores the fact that Sinani made a case on both Koshi and Ketomai.
Guess what.. those are the two people Sinani was willing to vote vote (as proven by Ketomais plucked Sinani quotes).

On June 13 2014 12:01 ketomai wrote:
Also, for both of those people, they have not actually posted much. It's much less than I thought at first because they have been discussed as potential mafia during the very beginnings of the game. The common theme here is they are laying pretty low without stepping up with any original content. Both are present during the crucial moments before the lynch and do not participate despite clearly paying attention to the game before and during that point.

Here ketomai takse the easy road; suggesting lack of participation = mafia, GG.
There is no link to mindset in existing filter.
I find superficial arguments like this tend to come from very bad town, or mafia.
Clearly I tend towards the latter.

On June 13 2014 13:19 ketomai wrote:
See, everyone just says I'm mafia without providing a good reason. I'm not against people calling me mafia if they think so, but with so many people doing it without what most would consider solid reasoning yet, it becomes detrimental to the town.

My bandwagon is the easiest for mafia to jump on because it's the safe one. Marv has me on his list, and it's the cool thing to do to accuse me with 1 line and that's it. They don't even need to give a reason because no one else is. I'm not saying the people who did are mafia necessarily, but look how many people randomly bring up my name as other bandwagons are going on. Intentionally or not, it potentially gives people an easy out to discussing the real issues that actually have evidence.

The reason I haven't been refuting any cases against me is because there really aren't any. I want someone to give me a solid case that I can at least attempt to refute to get this over with. Because as it stands now, my name is just potential misdirection.
I acknowledge that both alignments can go on a preemptive defense; but this reads odd to me.
In blue: He infers that with so many proponents of his lynch, mafia must clearly be involved.
Yet,
In red: He self-flagellates again, and says the misdirection of his lynch (due to being town) may only be a "potential"/possibility.

On June 13 2014 13:33 ketomai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 13:20 ExO_ wrote:
On June 13 2014 11:57 ketomai wrote:
Nice job on the lynch. In light of that lynch, it changes my opinions on a lot of people and made me look at others. Of those here are the ones that concern me most:

sinani: I'm feeling mafia on this one.

-KoC admitted after he got lynched that he's quite bad in mafia. It's not out of the question that some of his early defenses could be actual mafia. He went along with KoC's badly supported agenda on batsnacks.
-He voted for KoC at the tipping point after it became pretty clear that KoC was going to get lynched already. He actually soft defended KoC before that and then after a couple more votes came in and KoC surpassed SnB, he conceded.

On June 13 2014 02:29 sinani206 wrote:
On June 13 2014 02:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 13 2014 01:48 Amiko wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1:


Palmar (0): batsnacks
yamato77 (0): Palmar
roundabound (1): ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter, batsnacks, Chairman Ray, Bill Murray, Bill Murray, ketomai
sinani206 (0): Chromatically, Tehpoofter
Koshi (2): TicaTica, Tehpoofter, Rainbows, HaruRH, Chromatically, sinani206
TicaTica (0): Koshi
ExO_ (1): sandroba, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta
HolyFlare (0): Tehpoofter, Palmar
Bill Murray (0): roundabound
ketomai (2): ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter, Tehpoofter, roundabound
batsnacks (0): Chairman Ray, TheKingOfTheCats, Alakaslam
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Mattisfoolish, Bill Murray, Koshi
tehpoofter (1): Bill Murray, Palmar, VayneAuthority
strongandbig (7): Bill Murray, Palmar, Rainbows, Chairman Ray, ketomai, Alakaslam, HaruRH, Koshi
Chairman Ray (1): HaruRH, gumshoe, ExO_
Marvellosity (0): Tehpoofter
VayneAuthority (3): yamato77, kushm4sta, Meapak_Ziphh
Chromatically (1): ritoky
ritoky (0): ketomai
kushm4sta (3): ObiWanShinobi, HolyFlare, TheKingOfTheCats, ExO_
justanothertownie (0): Koshi, Palmar
ObiWanShinobi (1): TicaTica
TheKingOfTheCats (4): marvellosity, Palmar, justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi

Not voting (2): Erandorr, strongandbig



Currently strongandbig is set to be lynched with 7 votes! Day will end in

Remember: Voting is mandatory and has to be done in this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451311-tl-order-lxvi-thread-for-doing-of-the-voting
If there is a tie, the first person to reach that number of votes is lynched.

Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!


votes on me or kush at this point in the day are just lazy, save that pool of players for further use.


So it's lazy to still have votes on some of the leftover wagons because they should be concentrated on people who are actually going to be lynched, yet you are still the only person on poof? I'm not accusing you of anything, but I don't really see this as lazy. Can you elaborate?


Here, he's suggesting that there's nothing wrong with votes on ended bandwagons. Notice where his own vote is when he says this (on the antiquated Koshi wagon). While being on an inactive bandwagon is not exactly a 100% mafia tell (I am guilty as well), being present while having such a vote and being content with it is a lot more mafia. He also does not change his vote or provide any analysis aside from:

On June 13 2014 02:30 sinani206 wrote:
On June 13 2014 02:30 marvellosity wrote:
Look. I think KoC has a really good chance of flipping mafia. I think people should vote for him.

I don't really think s&b is mafia.

If there needs to be an alternative wagon, I think it should be ketomai.


I'm not opposed to a ketomai lynch.


Here it's already apparent that KoC is the case that should be focused on here yet he ignores marv (and marv called him out on it) and just tries to bring up my case again. He doesn't actually "investigate" KoC until he gets called out on ignoring it. In fact, the people he has problems with in his post history are myself and koshi, who a lot of people were attacking anyway. I obviously know I'm not mafia and I'm starting to think Koshi is less mafia, which makes his cases even more suspicious to me personally.

Anyway, besides that just look at his filter. He's basically contributed nothing while going for the easy low hanging fruits. That combined with his suspicious voting and lack of proactivity in analyzing big cases or any cases makes me think he's mafia.



Exo: starting to think he's more mafia

On June 13 2014 00:40 ExO_ wrote:
I actually agree on Kush. When I read his filter, it doesn't even look like he's trying to play. He responded to Obi and HF by saying they should lynch him, and he's the jester. I'm not sure whether to interpret this as him being sarcastic and dismissive, or him just not wanting to play this game. Either way, I don't see him as being helpful in the future if he is going to continue like this.

##unvote

##Vote kushm4sta


I'm having a very hard time determining what should indicate mafia, and what should indicate town (especially since it's day 1 and nothing has actually happened yet.) I'm forming opinions of people easily enough, but just thinking, for example, that marvel can be very rude doesn't make him mafia. And people who have been helpful and kind aren't necessarily town.


Similarly to sinani, he ignores a lot of big cases. In this post he ignores the KoC train while it's happening (and never addresses it despite being there the whole time) for almost a policy lynch on kush (with not much evidence given). He also in this post milks the newbie card, that everyone has been giving him a pass for, a little too much. For someone who's having a hard time "[indicating] who's mafia", he doesn't seem to put much effort into finding them. His accusations usually do not have a lot of backing, and in this case, his lack of accusations over the course of the whole day combined with that puts him over the top for me.


I don't think this is fair. For starters, calling me out on my posting amount when you've posted about half of what I have seems rather silly. When it comes to KoC I didn't see it. He didn't look like mafia to me. But to be honest, nobody really does. So instead of voting for what I feel would essentially be a guess, I'm going to vote for the guy who is being very trolly and actively telling people to lynch him (kush). For some reason a lot of players seem to think that acting this way makes him a vigilante, and I don't understand that at all. So I stand by my vote on Kush.

You're right about effort though. I'm probably not putting forth the effort that some players are. The amount of information in 55ish pages of reading is crazy. Being expected to read all of it and remember who said what about who when, and make predictions out of all of it seems like the norm here and I'm not sure I can keep up with that pace. I'm going to try my best, but TLmafia isn't the only thing I'm doing. If that's not good enough for you, if the fact that I'm not willing to accuse people I don't have strong feelings about isn't good enough for you, then lynch me. I'm not going to change how I'm playing right now. I can tell you this much: I'm 100% town, and want to do what I can to help town win (thereby allowing me to win). If I was mafia you'd be damn sure I'd be asking what things to say, what not to say. But I'm on my own. So I'm doing the best I can. That's about all you can expect from me, take it or leave it.


See that's what I don't like about your play. If you weren't seeing KoC, then SAY THAT and say why before you randomly post about someone completely different. You don't want to even talk about people you don't have strong feelings about but you speak up about the randomest of people without solid evidence. I mean you accused Kush previously but your only reasoning is "he asked for it" and "he's trolly". MANY people have been "trolly" this game (Vayneauthority, Palmer, etc). Do you find a borderline policy lynch (by your reasoning) on kush more acceptable than ANY of the cases that have been brought up? I find that that hard to believe.

As for why I have so few posts, it's because yes, I am generally only active after work in a 4-5 hour time period. However, I had more of a problem about your post content and when you're inactive rather than the total posts. The total posts was just an observation.

This is very ironic given:
On June 13 2014 05:01 Amiko wrote:
Day 1 - Final Vote Count:


strongandbig (4): Bill Murray, Palmar, Rainbows, Chairman Ray, ketomai, Alakaslam,


TheKingOfTheCats was lynched with 11 votes!

Night 1 will end in

Post KotC, Ketomai comments about Sinani + Exo.

Where is *ANY* statement about SnB?



The rest of his filter is fluff about theory

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June 13 2014 23:39 GMT
#2435
On June 14 2014 08:11 ketomai wrote:
@roundabout

1st post: Why is it not logical to closely observe cases that seem to have the most steam? When you're short on time you can't reinvent the wheel and observe every case from the ground up. You also misconstrue my intent. I observe the cases not because I trust them but because I'm actually forming my own opinion about the case. The difference here is that I'm choosing which ones that were debated and have work done on them already so I can contribute my thoughts to those cases rather than try to start over with a case that I can not keep pushing due to time constraints.
You are the one mincing your words.
On June 11 2014 11:38 ketomai wrote:
I'm going to place my vote with roundabound until I can catch up with the thread. Exo is the one running against him and there's not much that indicates scum for me yet.

I'll post again tomorrow after work with some more detailed opinion.

This thread is incredibly hard to read/follow on my phone.
This does not equivocate with closely observe cases
What you did is quite simple.
You went to the vote page, saw who had votes and decided to comment on that.
Exo has significantly less posts, yet you can not even muster a description of why "not much that indicates scum" as compared to my slot -- which thread sentiment was tied into. (conveniently).



2nd post: He doesn't just not want to vote, he ignores someone asking him about the case, which was the steaming bandwagon. Also, you need to read again, I did mention myself and Koshi. I considered both myself AND Koshi as easy cases that everyone was jumping on.

And you're point about him wanting to lynch Koshi. Look how strongly he actually wants to lynch Koshi. He really doesn't try to explain anything or change any opinions after his first post (which after that point, the bandwagon for it is long gone). It would not be suspicious if he continued fighting for a Koshi lynch but he just leaves his vote on there with no explanation or discussion despite being present as MULTIPLE bandwagons passed it.
I have re-read and dont understand your position.
Mine is clear however.
Both town and mafia can ignore "steaming" cases.
If anything, assuming Marv is town and Sinani is scum
It would be essential from Sinani POV to appease Marv regarding KotC. You miss this completely.
Instead, Sinani sticks of his previous bullets (Ketomai + Koshi). This can be a play from both alignments, but scum need much bigger balls to do it, whereas, town simply require conviction behind reads - a bias that is inherent.

So yes, it is you who is intentionally ignoring information that disproves your "theory".


3rd post: Was an observation to supplement the earlier post. Finding mafia isn't just one big clue, it's an accumulations of facts that don't independently prove anything.
Whether an attempt at a proof or observation, the post is a superficial filler. Nothing is dispelled.


4th post: My "self-flagellation" is actually an attempt to get town to properly assess my case. Yes, I do that on purpose because I didn't want to continue wasting votes and helping mafia by being constantly accusable with no evidence. Finally, someone has actually tried to come at me; that's good. You're just mincing words with the "potential misdirection part". It's potential misdirection because when my baseless status as a mafia suspect actually garners votes/vigi hits, it becomes actual misdirection that hurts the town in a direct way. I have no way of knowing if mafia are using me as an easy accusation for towncred; that's also misdirection, but I have no way of knowing.
I quoted "reads odd" because I understand you can not lynch people off a 'potential' slip.
It was purely an additional layer to issues I have. I am more than fine to consider this exhibit null.


5th post about the voting: I did make a case for snb, first content post. He was my 2nd lynch after ritoki and since I saw the case for snb building up and I wouldn't be back in time to vote or participate in further developments, I left my vote on snb. I stated that long before KoC happened.

I had to recheck your filter for a "case". Then I realise you meant this list note:
strongandbig: Seems a little bit like mafia. Would be the easy pick to vote but I'd love to see him defend himself first because like my suspicions for every one else after 1 day, I'm not sure. If anything, a lynch wouldn't be so bad just because he's not productive/working w/ the town.
You miss the point completely I made. I suggest you re-read.
You chastise one player for dropping a read without commenting.
Yet post-KotC, you dropped SnB (for Sinani + Exo) without commenting on your position on SnB.

Hypocrisy, which you are advocating is a scum tell.


SnB looks more town to me after that lynch and Exo/Sinani looked more mafia after the lynch. How is it hard to understand that circumstances change. On the first day there's no evidence to go by so you have to look at more abstract and unverifiable evidence. The original case on SnB actually wasn't that strong either (I'd say it was as strong as Marv's KoC case, actually), but it was the 2nd strongest that I could come up with on my first content post.
Thats great in hindsight.
But your post after the KotC lynch started with:
Nice job on the lynch. In light of that lynch, it changes my opinions on a lot of people and made me look at others. Of those here are the ones that concern me most:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451310-tl-order-lxvi-mafia?page=106#2106
btw, theres nothing about SnB there.....

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June 14 2014 00:03 GMT
#2438
Lol. Just lol
I have tried to reason with u openly. But this is now pointless.
That snb post is a bunch of fluff and u r hanging onto it way too hard for what it really is.

3 wishy washy sentences in a list post.

Scum scum scum

*##vote: ketomai
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June 14 2014 00:12 GMT
#2440
Rainbow
I read the haru case.

I like the second half more than the first.
Second is quite damming to me actually.

Regarding first half, it's slightly town to me.
As town, if he thinks koshi is scum. He's paying attention to the guys wielding koshi pitchforks and comments cr may be disingenuine. That's an astute observation for mafia to throw out in my experience. Typically mafia would be happy to have a read on player x. And are too lazy to note publiclly further interactions.

If scum, and koshi is town. This observation holds no weight if koshi flips.

Overall, I think the second half is more damming than my points for in the first half.

I'm happy with dither ketonai or haru

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June 14 2014 00:15 GMT
#2442
Sltop lying ketomai

If I was on comp I would quote.
.in that first day post about ppl being voted.
.u named 3 people as possible scum.

Koshi and snb have "slight" modifiers.
.ritoky Is clearly the strongest read portrayed at that window of time.


Scum scum scum
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June 14 2014 00:18 GMT
#2445
Rainbow
The issue isn't keto dropped snb

He's the one making a big deal of this.

It's that he is damming someone as scum for dropping a read... When he's done exactly the dame thing.
Hypocrisy, no.

I agree hypocrisy is a null tell. But I felt he was intentionally misconstruing events to suit his story.
Hence forth. Evildoer

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June 14 2014 00:31 GMT
#2450
Rainbows.

U just reiterated what I wrote abd implied

Yes, scum want to have multiple leads. E.g. koshi and cr
BUT
Cr I don't believe was a scum read for anyone at that point in time.
Seems a far fetch, to throw out randomly is all I'm saying.
If cr was a scum read already, which I can't easily check right now, then you are pprobably right and it was an opportune swing.

Feel like helping to confirm if haru was the first on cr?

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June 14 2014 00:38 GMT
#2452
Well I been up since 2am watching soccer

I'm willing to have a think about it after I wake up.

I'm happy with haru and keto and will consolidate on haru if required

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Niue881 Posts
June 14 2014 08:24 GMT
#2500
Gum

Dat feeling when u realise kp ain't submitted, ey

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Niue881 Posts
June 14 2014 18:10 GMT
#2577
On June 14 2014 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
matt/foolish too.

sandroba + mattfool are too good to be allowed to sit back for 2 days doing next to nothing. They get the day 1 pass but not the day 2 pass.

This and the previous sandroba post are the towniest youve had all game.

just posting reql qucik while catchong up on the pooper. Going wine tasting in 10 mins.

Poofter, thoughts on haru/rainbows being two town fighting?
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June 14 2014 18:11 GMT
#2578
Oh sjit, I forgot to say that the only reason I had sandro as town d1 was cause of that point where he and marv came tk the same conclusion about someone
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June 14 2014 18:13 GMT
#2579
On June 15 2014 01:00 mattisfoolish wrote:
No please.

##Vote: gumshoe

Not opposed to sandroba or ketomai either. Also fairly confident that Haru and Rainbows are two townies going ham in the tunnel.

~Foolishness

That 2 hour later x-post
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June 14 2014 18:36 GMT
#2585
On June 15 2014 03:24 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 03:10 roundabound wrote:
On June 14 2014 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
matt/foolish too.

sandroba + mattfool are too good to be allowed to sit back for 2 days doing next to nothing. They get the day 1 pass but not the day 2 pass.

This and the previous sandroba post are the towniest youve had all game.

just posting reql qucik while catchong up on the pooper. Going wine tasting in 10 mins.

Poofter, thoughts on haru/rainbows being two town fighting?

What about "lynch kotc"?

Dude

3.69/10
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June 14 2014 18:55 GMT
#2592
On June 15 2014 03:38 Chromatically wrote:
Robik, what's your actual read on marv right now? Sorry if I missed it already.

So like, marv is most likely town, but the fact that no one is/was in the least bit paranoid about the bus. I will feel infinitely more comfortable with marv if SnB flips town, but based off of his desire to push two people I think have a laclluster performance so far, hes not someone I want to push today.

in fact, if I had a vigi shot, id bang bang SnB as that would give me a lot of info.
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June 14 2014 19:18 GMT
#2594
On June 15 2014 04:01 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 03:55 roundabound wrote:
On June 15 2014 03:38 Chromatically wrote:
Robik, what's your actual read on marv right now? Sorry if I missed it already.

So like, marv is most likely town, but the fact that no one is/was in the least bit paranoid about the bus. I will feel infinitely more comfortable with marv if SnB flips town, but based off of his desire to push two people I think have a laclluster performance so far, hes not someone I want to push today.

in fact, if I had a vigi shot, id bang bang SnB as that would give me a lot of info.

So if you had to rank everyone in the game from scummy to townie, he would be pretty low on the list?

Somewhwre down there
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June 14 2014 19:21 GMT
#2597
On June 15 2014 04:18 HaruRH wrote:
LCS or World Cup... the decision is very real....

So I just want to wait to see if rainbows is willing to let go, if he is ,I will do so too.

Why?

Theres only 1 right answer to this question
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June 15 2014 01:40 GMT
#2643
Didn't sinani say he would make a post?

I don't like he used my points for him as a defence, and then has contributed nothing further???

Haru I will let bygones be, if u do is very weird. I see both alignments doing that. It's more a personality thing on how u deal with politics. What makes it weird is the spiel beforehand where he tried to SELL it. It's over the top and doesn't feel natural. I align that not Sith desperate town, but desperate scum.

I haven't reread ketomai yet, pretty busy today though.
Will try after lunch, otherwise I'm down with haru or sandroba/mattfool

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June 15 2014 02:40 GMT
#2646
On June 14 2014 11:29 sinani206 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2014 07:37 roundabound wrote:
So....

The problem I had, still have, and may continue to experience with Ketomai is: for every attempt at contribution he makes, there is an additional of self-flagellation.

This is on par with the renown "newbie claim" where you sell yourself as inexperienced in the hopes of being ignored, and thus, blending in - the sacred mafia goal to survival.

TL;DR
Ketomai is actively attempting to blend in. Whilst this can be a town trait; Ketomai juggles this performance with fabricated arguments that are both simple to disprove and extremely superficial. Thus, I can only attribute this recurring behaviour to rolling mafia.


Pre KotC lynch
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 11:38 ketomai wrote:
I'm going to place my vote with roundabound until I can catch up with the thread. Exo is the one running against him and there's not much that indicates scum for me yet.

I'll post again tomorrow after work with some more detailed opinion.

This thread is incredibly hard to read/follow on my phone.

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 11:51 ketomai wrote:
@roundabout I skimmed both situations and you were the more likely one of the two; I thought that should've been obvious. I'm casting the vote early in case something happens so I don't get instant modkilled. Obviously when I'm done reading the thread and thinking about things I'll most probably give my opinions and change it up. Until then, you can pretty much disregard my vote for you as filler after a cursory glance at both situations.

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 12:10 ketomai wrote:
Well, whether or not my belief is incorrect or not doesn't matter because it's inconsequential. I'm trying to reassure you because you're so up in arms about it but you can do what you want, I don't really care.

Again, I'll post a more detailed analysis if I can get home early enough to read tomorrow. I'm done replying to you for now!

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote:
On June 12 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i noticed poofter's post on ketomai and i realized that ketomai still hasnt done anything and should still probably die. more votes on him pls.


I'm here and I realize you're just pressuring me to respond, but reading 50 straight pages of mostly spam is honestly exhausting (and impossible for me after a long day at work). I gave up in the middle and just took a cursory glance through filters and whatnot for current top votes. I also took a look at a few other people that showed up near the beginning of the thread. I'll try to keep up with the thread from now on. Hopefully there's less spam in the future because missing 1 day so far seems to be catastrophic.

Top votes:

Koshi: Leaning slightly towards mafia. Biggest flag is his lack of cooperation with town as noted by others. He doesn't really argue, he just tries to pass off his viewpoints on the grounds that it should be obvious. I'm willing to wait on how he responds now that he's under pressure now and after he's promised to be more cooperative, however. He hasn't really contributed much other than defending himself. Also, I disagree with pretty much everything he says, but that doesn't really make him more or less mafia.

Exo: Leaning slightly towards town. He doesn't spam up the thread and has only posted the few times he's confident in his opinion. However, his last post that also contained his vote jumped to a conclusion really fast without much evidence. The way he said it leaves room for change, like my own vote, so I'm also not too suspicious of that. It feels more like he honestly doesn't know who to vote for because there's so much spam/finger pointing as a newer player.

Roundabout: No read. When he was attacking me earlier I thought he was doing that to everyone to create some chaos, but after looking through the filters he hasn't really done much past the early game. The point about him not contributing much is true, but not enough grounds to seem mafia yet; the game is early. The jump on me was a bit strange since I, personally, felt it was useless garbage spamming up the thread, but I'll ignore that. I would like to see him post more now that the "heat" is off of him.

strongandbig: Seems a little bit like mafia. Would be the easy pick to vote but I'd love to see him defend himself first because like my suspicions for every one else after 1 day, I'm not sure. If anything, a lynch wouldn't be so bad just because he's not productive/working w/ the town.

ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying).

Chairman Ray: slightly town. So far everything he posts is pretty logical. I disagree a bit with his leaps on roundabout, but he's defended himself and arguments pretty well, so I like that. He brings up his own arguments to add to town discussion as well, which is usually good if they make sense.

MZ: Other than furthering the VA lynchwagon (unless I missed some great post about it), not enough info, no read.


Anyway I made a post because I promised it, but as you can see my knowledge of the thread is not very thorough yet. You should view these as my initial thoughts. I feel strongest about ritoky out of the people I checked so I'll vote on him for now to get him to speak out.

Another issue I have with this post is the focus on people that have votes.
I get on one hand that a time-poor person *may* go straight to the vote counts.
On the other hand, I can not fathom why a townie that is not literate with the thread would trust the votes of ANY person to then perform this analysis.

Again, for every positive action ketomai makes; it is self-countered with a more significant negative.



Post KotC lynch
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On June 13 2014 11:57 ketomai wrote:
Nice job on the lynch. In light of that lynch, it changes my opinions on a lot of people and made me look at others. Of those here are the ones that concern me most:

sinani: I'm feeling mafia on this one.

-KoC admitted after he got lynched that he's quite bad in mafia. It's not out of the question that some of his early defenses could be actual mafia. He went along with KoC's badly supported agenda on batsnacks.
-He voted for KoC at the tipping point after it became pretty clear that KoC was going to get lynched already. He actually soft defended KoC before that and then after a couple more votes came in and KoC surpassed SnB, he conceded.

On June 13 2014 02:29 sinani206 wrote:
On June 13 2014 02:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 13 2014 01:48 Amiko wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1:


Palmar (0): batsnacks
yamato77 (0): Palmar
roundabound (1): ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter, batsnacks, Chairman Ray, Bill Murray, Bill Murray, ketomai
sinani206 (0): Chromatically, Tehpoofter
Koshi (2): TicaTica, Tehpoofter, Rainbows, HaruRH, Chromatically, sinani206
TicaTica (0): Koshi
ExO_ (1): sandroba, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta
HolyFlare (0): Tehpoofter, Palmar
Bill Murray (0): roundabound
ketomai (2): ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter, Tehpoofter, roundabound
batsnacks (0): Chairman Ray, TheKingOfTheCats, Alakaslam
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Mattisfoolish, Bill Murray, Koshi
tehpoofter (1): Bill Murray, Palmar, VayneAuthority
strongandbig (7): Bill Murray, Palmar, Rainbows, Chairman Ray, ketomai, Alakaslam, HaruRH, Koshi
Chairman Ray (1): HaruRH, gumshoe, ExO_
Marvellosity (0): Tehpoofter
VayneAuthority (3): yamato77, kushm4sta, Meapak_Ziphh
Chromatically (1): ritoky
ritoky (0): ketomai
kushm4sta (3): ObiWanShinobi, HolyFlare, TheKingOfTheCats, ExO_
justanothertownie (0): Koshi, Palmar
ObiWanShinobi (1): TicaTica
TheKingOfTheCats (4): marvellosity, Palmar, justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi

Not voting (2): Erandorr, strongandbig



Currently strongandbig is set to be lynched with 7 votes! Day will end in

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votes on me or kush at this point in the day are just lazy, save that pool of players for further use.


So it's lazy to still have votes on some of the leftover wagons because they should be concentrated on people who are actually going to be lynched, yet you are still the only person on poof? I'm not accusing you of anything, but I don't really see this as lazy. Can you elaborate?


Here, he's suggesting that there's nothing wrong with votes on ended bandwagons. Notice where his own vote is when he says this (on the antiquated Koshi wagon). While being on an inactive bandwagon is not exactly a 100% mafia tell (I am guilty as well), being present while having such a vote and being content with it is a lot more mafia. He also does not change his vote or provide any analysis aside from:

On June 13 2014 02:30 sinani206 wrote:
On June 13 2014 02:30 marvellosity wrote:
Look. I think KoC has a really good chance of flipping mafia. I think people should vote for him.

I don't really think s&b is mafia.

If there needs to be an alternative wagon, I think it should be ketomai.


I'm not opposed to a ketomai lynch.


Here it's already apparent that KoC is the case that should be focused on here yet he ignores marv (and marv called him out on it) and just tries to bring up my case again. He doesn't actually "investigate" KoC until he gets called out on ignoring it. In fact, the people he has problems with in his post history are myself and koshi, who a lot of people were attacking anyway. I obviously know I'm not mafia and I'm starting to think Koshi is less mafia, which makes his cases even more suspicious to me personally.

Anyway, besides that just look at his filter. He's basically contributed nothing while going for the easy low hanging fruits. That combined with his suspicious voting and lack of proactivity in analyzing big cases or any cases makes me think he's mafia.

+ Show Spoiler +

Exo: starting to think he's more mafia

On June 13 2014 00:40 ExO_ wrote:
I actually agree on Kush. When I read his filter, it doesn't even look like he's trying to play. He responded to Obi and HF by saying they should lynch him, and he's the jester. I'm not sure whether to interpret this as him being sarcastic and dismissive, or him just not wanting to play this game. Either way, I don't see him as being helpful in the future if he is going to continue like this.

##unvote

##Vote kushm4sta


I'm having a very hard time determining what should indicate mafia, and what should indicate town (especially since it's day 1 and nothing has actually happened yet.) I'm forming opinions of people easily enough, but just thinking, for example, that marvel can be very rude doesn't make him mafia. And people who have been helpful and kind aren't necessarily town.


Similarly to sinani, he ignores a lot of big cases. In this post he ignores the KoC train while it's happening (and never addresses it despite being there the whole time) for almost a policy lynch on kush (with not much evidence given). He also in this post milks the newbie card, that everyone has been giving him a pass for, a little too much. For someone who's having a hard time "[indicating] who's mafia", he doesn't seem to put much effort into finding them. His accusations usually do not have a lot of backing, and in this case, his lack of accusations over the course of the whole day combined with that puts him over the top for me.

I find this an extremely miscontrued and fabricated depiction of Sinani.
Firstly, Ketomai takes issue that Sinani did not consider KotC as a lynch, inferring anyone who does not vote scum: equivocates to scum.
Secondly, he completely ignores the fact that Sinani made a case on both Koshi and Ketomai.
Guess what.. those are the two people Sinani was willing to vote vote (as proven by Ketomais plucked Sinani quotes).

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On June 13 2014 12:01 ketomai wrote:
Also, for both of those people, they have not actually posted much. It's much less than I thought at first because they have been discussed as potential mafia during the very beginnings of the game. The common theme here is they are laying pretty low without stepping up with any original content. Both are present during the crucial moments before the lynch and do not participate despite clearly paying attention to the game before and during that point.

Here ketomai takse the easy road; suggesting lack of participation = mafia, GG.
There is no link to mindset in existing filter.
I find superficial arguments like this tend to come from very bad town, or mafia.
Clearly I tend towards the latter.

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On June 13 2014 13:19 ketomai wrote:
See, everyone just says I'm mafia without providing a good reason. I'm not against people calling me mafia if they think so, but with so many people doing it without what most would consider solid reasoning yet, it becomes detrimental to the town.

My bandwagon is the easiest for mafia to jump on because it's the safe one. Marv has me on his list, and it's the cool thing to do to accuse me with 1 line and that's it. They don't even need to give a reason because no one else is. I'm not saying the people who did are mafia necessarily, but look how many people randomly bring up my name as other bandwagons are going on. Intentionally or not, it potentially gives people an easy out to discussing the real issues that actually have evidence.

The reason I haven't been refuting any cases against me is because there really aren't any. I want someone to give me a solid case that I can at least attempt to refute to get this over with. Because as it stands now, my name is just potential misdirection.
I acknowledge that both alignments can go on a preemptive defense; but this reads odd to me.
In blue: He infers that with so many proponents of his lynch, mafia must clearly be involved.
Yet,
In red: He self-flagellates again, and says the misdirection of his lynch (due to being town) may only be a "potential"/possibility.

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On June 13 2014 13:33 ketomai wrote:
On June 13 2014 13:20 ExO_ wrote:
On June 13 2014 11:57 ketomai wrote:
Nice job on the lynch. In light of that lynch, it changes my opinions on a lot of people and made me look at others. Of those here are the ones that concern me most:

sinani: I'm feeling mafia on this one.

-KoC admitted after he got lynched that he's quite bad in mafia. It's not out of the question that some of his early defenses could be actual mafia. He went along with KoC's badly supported agenda on batsnacks.
-He voted for KoC at the tipping point after it became pretty clear that KoC was going to get lynched already. He actually soft defended KoC before that and then after a couple more votes came in and KoC surpassed SnB, he conceded.

On June 13 2014 02:29 sinani206 wrote:
On June 13 2014 02:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 13 2014 01:48 Amiko wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1:


Palmar (0): batsnacks
yamato77 (0): Palmar
roundabound (1): ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter, batsnacks, Chairman Ray, Bill Murray, Bill Murray, ketomai
sinani206 (0): Chromatically, Tehpoofter
Koshi (2): TicaTica, Tehpoofter, Rainbows, HaruRH, Chromatically, sinani206
TicaTica (0): Koshi
ExO_ (1): sandroba, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta
HolyFlare (0): Tehpoofter, Palmar
Bill Murray (0): roundabound
ketomai (2): ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter, Tehpoofter, roundabound
batsnacks (0): Chairman Ray, TheKingOfTheCats, Alakaslam
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Mattisfoolish, Bill Murray, Koshi
tehpoofter (1): Bill Murray, Palmar, VayneAuthority
strongandbig (7): Bill Murray, Palmar, Rainbows, Chairman Ray, ketomai, Alakaslam, HaruRH, Koshi
Chairman Ray (1): HaruRH, gumshoe, ExO_
Marvellosity (0): Tehpoofter
VayneAuthority (3): yamato77, kushm4sta, Meapak_Ziphh
Chromatically (1): ritoky
ritoky (0): ketomai
kushm4sta (3): ObiWanShinobi, HolyFlare, TheKingOfTheCats, ExO_
justanothertownie (0): Koshi, Palmar
ObiWanShinobi (1): TicaTica
TheKingOfTheCats (4): marvellosity, Palmar, justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi

Not voting (2): Erandorr, strongandbig



Currently strongandbig is set to be lynched with 7 votes! Day will end in

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votes on me or kush at this point in the day are just lazy, save that pool of players for further use.


So it's lazy to still have votes on some of the leftover wagons because they should be concentrated on people who are actually going to be lynched, yet you are still the only person on poof? I'm not accusing you of anything, but I don't really see this as lazy. Can you elaborate?


Here, he's suggesting that there's nothing wrong with votes on ended bandwagons. Notice where his own vote is when he says this (on the antiquated Koshi wagon). While being on an inactive bandwagon is not exactly a 100% mafia tell (I am guilty as well), being present while having such a vote and being content with it is a lot more mafia. He also does not change his vote or provide any analysis aside from:

On June 13 2014 02:30 sinani206 wrote:
On June 13 2014 02:30 marvellosity wrote:
Look. I think KoC has a really good chance of flipping mafia. I think people should vote for him.

I don't really think s&b is mafia.

If there needs to be an alternative wagon, I think it should be ketomai.


I'm not opposed to a ketomai lynch.


Here it's already apparent that KoC is the case that should be focused on here yet he ignores marv (and marv called him out on it) and just tries to bring up my case again. He doesn't actually "investigate" KoC until he gets called out on ignoring it. In fact, the people he has problems with in his post history are myself and koshi, who a lot of people were attacking anyway. I obviously know I'm not mafia and I'm starting to think Koshi is less mafia, which makes his cases even more suspicious to me personally.

Anyway, besides that just look at his filter. He's basically contributed nothing while going for the easy low hanging fruits. That combined with his suspicious voting and lack of proactivity in analyzing big cases or any cases makes me think he's mafia.



Exo: starting to think he's more mafia

On June 13 2014 00:40 ExO_ wrote:
I actually agree on Kush. When I read his filter, it doesn't even look like he's trying to play. He responded to Obi and HF by saying they should lynch him, and he's the jester. I'm not sure whether to interpret this as him being sarcastic and dismissive, or him just not wanting to play this game. Either way, I don't see him as being helpful in the future if he is going to continue like this.

##unvote

##Vote kushm4sta


I'm having a very hard time determining what should indicate mafia, and what should indicate town (especially since it's day 1 and nothing has actually happened yet.) I'm forming opinions of people easily enough, but just thinking, for example, that marvel can be very rude doesn't make him mafia. And people who have been helpful and kind aren't necessarily town.


Similarly to sinani, he ignores a lot of big cases. In this post he ignores the KoC train while it's happening (and never addresses it despite being there the whole time) for almost a policy lynch on kush (with not much evidence given). He also in this post milks the newbie card, that everyone has been giving him a pass for, a little too much. For someone who's having a hard time "[indicating] who's mafia", he doesn't seem to put much effort into finding them. His accusations usually do not have a lot of backing, and in this case, his lack of accusations over the course of the whole day combined with that puts him over the top for me.


I don't think this is fair. For starters, calling me out on my posting amount when you've posted about half of what I have seems rather silly. When it comes to KoC I didn't see it. He didn't look like mafia to me. But to be honest, nobody really does. So instead of voting for what I feel would essentially be a guess, I'm going to vote for the guy who is being very trolly and actively telling people to lynch him (kush). For some reason a lot of players seem to think that acting this way makes him a vigilante, and I don't understand that at all. So I stand by my vote on Kush.

You're right about effort though. I'm probably not putting forth the effort that some players are. The amount of information in 55ish pages of reading is crazy. Being expected to read all of it and remember who said what about who when, and make predictions out of all of it seems like the norm here and I'm not sure I can keep up with that pace. I'm going to try my best, but TLmafia isn't the only thing I'm doing. If that's not good enough for you, if the fact that I'm not willing to accuse people I don't have strong feelings about isn't good enough for you, then lynch me. I'm not going to change how I'm playing right now. I can tell you this much: I'm 100% town, and want to do what I can to help town win (thereby allowing me to win). If I was mafia you'd be damn sure I'd be asking what things to say, what not to say. But I'm on my own. So I'm doing the best I can. That's about all you can expect from me, take it or leave it.


See that's what I don't like about your play. If you weren't seeing KoC, then SAY THAT and say why before you randomly post about someone completely different. You don't want to even talk about people you don't have strong feelings about but you speak up about the randomest of people without solid evidence. I mean you accused Kush previously but your only reasoning is "he asked for it" and "he's trolly". MANY people have been "trolly" this game (Vayneauthority, Palmer, etc). Do you find a borderline policy lynch (by your reasoning) on kush more acceptable than ANY of the cases that have been brought up? I find that that hard to believe.

As for why I have so few posts, it's because yes, I am generally only active after work in a 4-5 hour time period. However, I had more of a problem about your post content and when you're inactive rather than the total posts. The total posts was just an observation.

This is very ironic given:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 05:01 Amiko wrote:
Day 1 - Final Vote Count:


strongandbig (4): Bill Murray, Palmar, Rainbows, Chairman Ray, ketomai, Alakaslam,


TheKingOfTheCats was lynched with 11 votes!

Night 1 will end in

Post KotC, Ketomai comments about Sinani + Exo.

Where is *ANY* statement about SnB?



The rest of his filter is fluff about theory

~moc


Well, I guess you did my job for me.

<3

now time to go get rid of some low prio

Aaahhhh

I interpretted this as you coming back with thoughts

Hhhmmmm. Carry on
Edit. I see you have
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June 15 2014 04:40 GMT
#2679
On June 15 2014 12:41 Chromatically wrote:
I've been rereading Mocsta's case on ketomai because I didn't understand it the first time, and it doesn't really do it for me. I don't majorly disagree with any of the points, I'm just not really convinced.

The one thing I don't like about keto is that he's been here today, and I don't know who he wants to lynch. Other than that, some of his wording rubs me the wrong way? But not for any particularly scummy reason I can think of. I would rather lynch others.

I understand there is town that do not have concrete thoughts; and can be swayed from counter-argument to counter-argument.

Keto does not appear to be one of those town; and therein lies my core issue.

Keto has purpose behind his play I think; thus, all the "self-deprecation" & "self-flagellation" is intentional. I associate that with mafia mindset.

I have re-read my case, and still agree with it.
If people choose not to agree with the self-deprecation, fine.

But then the at least consider the hypocrisy evident in what Ketomai considers to be scum traits (via his cases) and how those same traits directly apply to his filter.

Yes, town can be hyopcrites; but ketomai is in control of what he posts. He is not one of those towns that sway from counter-argument to counter-argument; which makes me consider his cases as both fabricated and superficial.
Again, traits of mafia.

All his counter-arguments ignore the crux of my points too (e.g. regarding SnB).
Instead, he tries to shift the weight of my argument away from that crux; and in the process over exaggerate the facts in his filter.

My vote is remaining.

Off to lunch now

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Niue881 Posts
June 15 2014 04:46 GMT
#2682
On June 15 2014 13:42 Holyflare wrote:
Mocsta you still didn't explain your case to me it's hard to read it because ugly

When did you ask?

You're a law guy, I am sure out of everyone you ar the most qualified to dsisect it.

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June 15 2014 05:19 GMT
#2686
On June 15 2014 13:54 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 17:29 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2014 17:24 roundabound wrote:
Gum

Dat feeling when u realise kp ain't submitted, ey

~moc


tl:dr your ket case because your tl:dr preceded a giant wall of semi unreadable text


Just sum it up I'm pretty hungover.

Ermmm
It has a Tldr at the start.

I dunno what mire u want
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Niue881 Posts
June 15 2014 05:30 GMT
#2688
Vote me then
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Niue881 Posts
June 15 2014 05:42 GMT
#2693
U have accused me of making a case in a mafia oriented way
Put ya money where ya mouth is
O/w you are all talk, in a mafia oriented way.

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June 15 2014 06:20 GMT
#2704
It is as I wrote

Lawman

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June 15 2014 06:55 GMT
#2727
On June 15 2014 15:24 Holyflare wrote:
If ket wasn't going to be lynched today who would you be tunneling next mocsta?

I'm fine with haru

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Niue881 Posts
June 15 2014 10:16 GMT
#2781
I luurrvve mocsta !
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June 15 2014 10:17 GMT
#2782
i am not drunk I PROMISE !
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June 15 2014 11:09 GMT
#2785
fuckn robik....
sigh

apolgies to all

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June 15 2014 14:09 GMT
#2804
On June 15 2014 23:07 Mocsta wrote:
Hodor

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June 15 2014 14:13 GMT
#2806
Keto

Pls walk me through some thoughts.

1. Marv hasn't done much this cycle. What makes him more townie?

2. I get sinani is difficult because there isn't an official response to your first set of q. But What makes u 2 different to haru/rainbow?

3. Do u have a reason to suspect rainbow other than the continual campaign for haru votes?

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June 15 2014 14:14 GMT
#2807
Thanks jat.

I know u americanos need as much assistance as possible. Hehehe

~moc

Hodor
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Niue881 Posts
June 15 2014 14:19 GMT
#2813
I'm all ears too

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June 15 2014 14:25 GMT
#2816
On June 15 2014 23:18 ketomai wrote:
1) The Palmar flip. He was already unbelievably likely to be townie. Now he's just a bit more.

2) Because I actually have a case on sinani and have made cases on other people. I am by no means tunneling him like he is tunneling me. I'm not even voting for him for an "easy" vote.

3) Nothing strong. Haru's case is stronger (see day 1 vote, see start of altercation)

I can't shake this feeling.
All your responses read to me like a guy that is prepared for an interview.
All the token stuff I want hear.
It perturbs me.

I do agree between about hsaru though.

Can I have your current assessment of koshi pls.

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June 15 2014 14:28 GMT
#2818
On June 15 2014 23:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 23:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 15 2014 23:16 Koshi wrote:
On June 15 2014 23:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 15 2014 23:01 Koshi wrote:
I voted Kush. Sandroba can wait I guess.

## vote: Kush

Way to undermine this push...
Also funny that you do this now that kush has started to play a little.

Why is it funny? I vote him because he is superscummy.

Ok, I will listen. Explain.

Giving townreads because it is easy. Scumreads are omgus even though he is reading thread. Not a single interesting thought.

How does this delineate from typical kush play?

I don't see how u can ignore

Haru, keto, mattfool or sandroba to chase this lead.... Seriously. That post above is not going to campaign a swing vote.. I have no idea where you are trying to go with this

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June 15 2014 14:30 GMT
#2821
On June 15 2014 23:26 yamato77 wrote:
moc we should kill kush

I said it at night and will say it again.

Players like kush and slam et all should be saved for the vig.

Kush is a crap shoot and a lynch won't produce much information towards his team, nor will it reduce kp.
Surely with 135 pages we can target a better choice...

Like haru, mattfool, or even sandroba and keto.

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June 15 2014 14:39 GMT
#2830
On June 15 2014 23:35 Koshi wrote:
WHY IS SANDROBA A BETTER LYNCH THAN KUSH.

MOCSTAAAAAA?

Sandroba is known to do nothing as scum
Notnposting in 24hrs is sorta acceptable.. But sandroba has exceeded that I believe.
My memory of sandroba is destroying my scum team in LoL and banding town together.
Maybe its too early for the first part, but def seen none of the last.

I seen kush play plenty of styles and I dunno what is typical for him anymore.
Him changing read on me seems more inline with town games from my experience....

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June 15 2014 14:40 GMT
#2832
Ketomai:

Are you town?

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June 15 2014 14:46 GMT
#2839
Koshi

Why kush over mif or haru or keto (wh won't answer if he is town lol)

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Niue881 Posts
June 15 2014 15:00 GMT
#2852
Koshi

Will u be my padawan?

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June 15 2014 15:03 GMT
#2856
But keto thinks snb could be town

That's good enough in my book.....

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June 15 2014 15:12 GMT
#2863
On June 16 2014 00:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 00:00 roundabound wrote:
Koshi

Will u be my padawan?

~moc

Rubicktheamazingmagus his padawan be I could.
Mocsta meh. You know those games you replaced in and killed? That mocsta follow I would. I am not too impressed by that case you made on keto. Well the case is understandable but so is the defense. The defense even more.

Lololol

What games?

Everyone knows I'm shite. Just ask Marv.

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June 15 2014 15:13 GMT
#2865
I will consolidate before I go to bed but.

Hhmmmm

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June 15 2014 15:18 GMT
#2871
Kush and mif lead the votes.

I will join the wag on of justice

##unvote
##vote:mif


Night

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June 15 2014 15:20 GMT
#2874
On June 16 2014 00:18 Koshi wrote:
Probably has more words in ver game. Can you show me fool game in which he does nothing as scum?


This is not apples for apples

Matt lurks

And fool barely plays anymore

Sample size is not comparable to kush

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June 15 2014 15:31 GMT
#2890
On June 16 2014 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:
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On June 16 2014 00:28 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 16 2014 00:24 Koshi wrote:
It could be that mz was rb and that kush is scum. But town vigi shot mz and hf fake claimed the rb.

Then kush is bussing hf like he likes. And hf is bussing kush for funzies.

Yes. I like this theory. HF rb was silly.

It could be. But how likely is that. It means you are SURE HF is scum too. Might aswell vote him.

You better claim greencheck on kush at this rate.

No, I claim having a brain. If it neccessary that HF is scum for your little theory to be true then he is the correct vote and not kush.

This.

~moc
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June 15 2014 15:33 GMT
#2892
On June 16 2014 00:30 Koshi wrote:
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On June 16 2014 00:28 ketomai wrote:
Wait I'm not following. Would mafia rb flip MS green? It just says "unknown" in the OP.

The janitor has 3 actions. I am saying he used rb and because town vigi shot mz the rb is now used by scum to gain cred.

This is maybe far fetched but not so far.
I'm not asking for a claim

But ifnu r vt, I can't follow this not so far logic...
And u shouldn't expect others to either

Nuff said


~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 15 2014 17:32 GMT
#2934
Koshi gave me the biggest hardon of my mafia life on page 144.

-Robik

Edit: clearly my other brain doesnt agree
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Niue881 Posts
June 15 2014 17:47 GMT
#2937
On June 16 2014 02:45 Koshi wrote:
Exactly. Sense you are now making. Kush his alignment cant be proven by mz dieing or you rb.

like almost every other person in the game.

So wahts ya point...
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June 15 2014 17:53 GMT
#2944
On June 16 2014 02:49 Koshi wrote:
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On June 16 2014 02:47 roundabound wrote:
On June 16 2014 02:45 Koshi wrote:
Exactly. Sense you are now making. Kush his alignment cant be proven by mz dieing or you rb.

like almost every other person in the game.

So wahts ya point...

HF before said kush is town because hf got rb.

I think he might have slipped.
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June 15 2014 17:54 GMT
#2945
On June 16 2014 02:49 TicaTica wrote:
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On June 16 2014 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 16 2014 02:18 TicaTica wrote:
I really doubt MILF is mafia just based on timing. Gonna shower then filter. Sandroba a better lynch IMO.

Ok, elaborate on that when you are back please.

Look at where an when things have come up. Semi late push. No reasonable counter push. Votes spread all around. I'd look at Ket and Haruh. I don't think the rainbows Haru shit was town on town at all.

No counter push?

Kush, no?

Sandroba, no?

The vote spread around is not indicative to me of mafia being happy or unhappy with the vote.
Its indicative of lack of leadership.

Every bob, joe, dick and harry is going around saying "Player XYZ" is mafia; there has not been a driving force towards consolidation.

Robik and me finally caught up to chat & we agree rainbows/haru is not town + town either.

However I havent seen a good reason to not vote MIF other than potential to solve the game (which is applicable to a multitude of players left in the pool).

~moc
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June 15 2014 18:17 GMT
#2957
On June 16 2014 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
What the fuck kind of awful is that post mocsta? You agree Rainbows and haru isn't town on town but you're just sheeping onto Foolishness who at this point of time is a coin flip (thw worst one at that because at least he's posted stuff). What happened to mafia ket and now mafia rainbows/haru? You're just ditching them?

Put ya money where ya mouth is then.

Last I checked, its not a fellony to vote on ppl I think are scum.

~moc
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June 15 2014 18:26 GMT
#2963
On June 16 2014 03:24 HaruRH wrote:
you know what, I don't care anymore. nobody has made a convincing case against me at all. None of you. Go ahead, lynch me today. I'll drop by 10 minutes before the lynch tomorrow and write my final remarks.
Enjoy the mislynch guys

Dude, talk about overreaction.. wtf.

You have ONE, read (1) vote on you.

If town, the best thing you can do is "continue to' push reads OTHER than Rainbows.

~moc
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June 15 2014 18:30 GMT
#2967
Excellent waste of a vote there HF.

That one vote is certainly going to lynch scum at this pivotal moment, what, 30min from deadline.

LOl.. obviously you have some conviction in ya former read to drop it so haphazardly.

*clap clap*

~moc
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June 15 2014 18:40 GMT
#2973
On June 16 2014 03:36 Holyflare wrote:
Not really theres an hour and a half left to lynch you.

The point remains.

Your best scum target is an AFK'r... and you dropped that solely for being provoked - yet I am the scummer... TROLOLOLOLOL.

The only thing you ahve got going for you is an RB -- which could even be town generated.

When you finish jacking off and want to be productive; theres a 5man wagon on MIIF you can bolster onto.

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 15 2014 18:40 GMT
#2974
These wagons suck.
Not the people, per say, but the lacl of consolidation that is going to give us jack shit for information.
Also, snb needs to die at some point...the sooner the better
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June 15 2014 18:45 GMT
#2976
On June 16 2014 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
That post shows you haven't read a thing. Of all the lurkers I'm MOST comfortable with Foolishness because he dislikes gumshoe for good reasons. Sandroba follow meta, better lynch. Kush is actually a good lynch but everyone has pretty much expressed they won't lynch him, I've tried the past 4 days.

Robik has played beyond awful this game and he isn't that awful to think marv was bussing cats rofl. That is genuinely the worst thing I've ever heard in my life and your ket case was balls when i actually read it.

You aren't discussing anything at all just stating things and peace out when you've said some mediocre tidbit.

its 3am so feck off if i cant remember anything

and i recall you pushign sandroba, NOT MIF.

btw, forza italy !

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 15 2014 19:53 GMT
#3103
i voted yam

back to soccer

~moc
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June 15 2014 19:54 GMT
#3107
fuck me... 6 modkills?

is this game even worth playing anymore. sigh

`moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 16 2014 00:39 GMT
#3382
On June 16 2014 05:25 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Helloooooo Boys

I'm completely caught up with the game, so if you have any questions at all for me on certain people or cases, ask away. I know Errandor didn't contribute jack shit, but I'm hoping I can bring some thoughts and such and lynch some mafia! So, a few thoughts/ things I've noticed.

@Roundabound- Robik is town. Mocsta is mafia. Sorry, Rob, but mocsta's scuminess outweighs your towniness. Lynch/shoot them as well.

On June 16 2014 06:46 27ninjabunnies wrote:B]
For Round- Like I said, Rob part is reading townie to me, Mocsta part is reading scummy. Mocsta outweighs rob's townieness.
But day 1 Rob was townie, asking questions, completely disagreeing with the half of his hydra. Seems a little ballsy for them to be mafia from Rob's pov. Mocsta-however, idk. His reads don't sit with me. Also, i found it weird he was willing to go with any wagon being haru and yamato) over a read on keto that he had been pushing quite a bit.

Rainbows- Idk. I was iffy about the whole Haru/Rainbows thing, as I was reading haru pretty townie, and rainbows not so townie. I played detention mafia with him, and though he wasn't super like detention mafia, it seemed he was playing slightly similar. Rainbows- never played with i don't think. Not sure how to read, so null.

One - Thanks for beign an active follower. Its pretty clear you have a good idea of the thread. This is a refreshing change.
Based on impetus alone, I am willing to give you a town lean; or at the least, benefit of the doubt.

Regarding myself. I find your reads in general completely tunneled and association-based towards interactions with an unflipped me. This is poor play in general.
Many times in your filter you have said "XYZ" is town or scum, because of how they talked to me. A rethink is needed I think; and if you believe those players are genuinely mafia, you should be able to delve into mindset quite easily.
Further, your synopsis is wrong. Robik and I have barely had any joint conversation before ewntering the thread. Hes been away when im here; and vice versa.
In addition, I continually pushed the keto read all cycle. Your summary is far fetched. I only changed votes towards the very end when consolidation was critical. This is well document in my filter; yet, somehow you miss this???
Confirmation bias????

Regarding rainbows; he is town. On par with Marv this game.
No offence, but given you are one of the few players to state you preferred Haru over Rainbows; and I know you are wrong on me. I can not take your stance on Rainbows seriously. He is town for approach, mindset & conviction.

~moc
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June 16 2014 00:47 GMT
#3388
We got a window to chat about 4hrs ago.

Aside from that, fuck all.
We've talked a few times, but its all been superficial i dont liek xyz, but no counter arguments.

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 16 2014 00:52 GMT
#3391
Maybe thats why you are a better player than me marv.

~moc
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June 16 2014 00:56 GMT
#3394
What it means is pretty straight forward. 2 guys with different approaches who have not gelled yet.
I had the same problem in the Hydra only game where I was with GoodKarma.

~moc
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June 16 2014 01:00 GMT
#3399
27bunnies:
I stayed onto Keto for a majority of the cycle. I don't see what is scummy about jumping off a 1 vote wagon; to consolidate with alt. reads?

Regarding the rest; you are taking it out of context. But hey, no cb right?

~moc
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June 16 2014 01:01 GMT
#3400
On June 16 2014 09:57 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 16 2014 09:56 roundabound wrote:
What it means is pretty straight forward. 2 guys with different approaches who have not gelled yet.
I had the same problem in the Hydra only game where I was with GoodKarma.

~moc

weren't you mafia that game? o.o

NO !

we were town that won the game with a nuke no scum ! (having said that it was a perfect game)

~moc
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June 16 2014 01:03 GMT
#3402
lol.. well that first one was shocking hahah

I did hydra with rayn on this account as scum.

We were in sync; everyone town read us, i got bored and claimed scum for fun.

It hink that was my last game on TL.

~moc
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June 16 2014 01:07 GMT
#3404
anyways for some further transparency.

The 4 ppl me n Robik are treating as highest priority for detailed diving are:

SnB
CR
Yam
MIF

He dosent agree with Keto; so im willing to sideline this one for a little bit.

~moc
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June 16 2014 01:11 GMT
#3406
Man, tehpoofter n me.
Very similar page

Sweet.

~moc
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June 16 2014 01:14 GMT
#3410
Im null on Sinani.

I disagree in full with Keto case on Sinani (as I already disproved);
however, I dont note anything from him beyond his 2 cases mid Day1.

For me his biggest sticking point is that he has used my disproval as a defense for himself; yet, has denied it (whilst contributing nothign further)
~moc
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June 16 2014 01:16 GMT
#3412
On June 16 2014 10:12 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On June 16 2014 09:59 marvellosity wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:58 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:52 marvellosity wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:47 roundabound wrote:
We got a window to chat about 4hrs ago.

Aside from that, fuck all.
We've talked a few times, but its all been superficial i dont liek xyz, but no counter arguments.

~moc

it's fairly worrying how it seems like you're essentially playing 2 different games within one slot.

i have robik shedding silly suspicion on me across multiple posts, and i have you acknowledging that i am pretty obviously town. i have robik not knowing what cases you've been pusihing. it's quite disconcerting and i don't like it. i don't know what it means though.


To me it feels like I feel when I'm in a game with Robik and he is village he spouts off a whole bunch of stuff that makes me think he is a villager even if I don't agree with all of it. As wolf I think they would make a point of making sure they were holding the party line on who they thought was what and why. At least thats my 2 cents.

Also reads coming up

i've played with a lot of hydras (indeed in 2 hydra-only games) and that's actually not usually the case, even though it sounds like it should be.


Wow really? That is surprising I've never hydrad or seen a wolf hydra that I recall they've all been villager. I will rethink a bit but I really am reading robik as wolf and Moc as village for agreeing with me on Ketowolf.

(Hydra only game sounds fun)

You shouldnt town read me just for agreeing on one case.
Hopefully you liked my approach to dealing and trying to understand Keto instead.

As for the hydra; I think the situation marv is referring to specifically does occur when a mafia hydra is under pressure and both ppl are posting off the cuff /(read: bullshitting) at the same time.

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 16 2014 01:19 GMT
#3415
well remember marv. timezones are important too.
me n robik are literally 12hrs apart.
The only reason im talking to him in live convo is due to the cup games being atr very bad times for me

Thank goodness, the games have all been worthwhile watchign though !

Forza italia

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 16 2014 01:20 GMT
#3417
Are we going to get an official resolution on the 5 to 6 ppl that did not vote
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June 16 2014 01:21 GMT
#3418
On June 16 2014 10:20 marvellosity wrote:
i'll forza your italia at this rate.

c'mon

twas a good game.

Still that van persie header, man.. that was freaking amazing.

~moc
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June 16 2014 01:40 GMT
#3428
On June 16 2014 05:57 Alakaslam wrote:
C'mon scum double stack me

I can take you all on
On June 16 2014 05:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Slam, I'm disappointed in you this game. I was reading you pretty townie d1, but you've slacked off.

Help me out here buddy.

Why are you town?? And who is the mafia?
On June 16 2014 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:
I been gone

Just got here

Decided "forget these 20 pages what is happening now eh?" While waiting for someone in parking lot

"HIJOLE 5 MINUTES BANDWAGON"

Then drive

So

At least I didn fret modkilled. And I am town because (host) saw for for whatever reason.

I am unsure who is scum maybe VA

I see his frog and toad
On June 16 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:


There are 5 mafia left, yes?

You gotta give me something better than VA.

But why VA?
On June 16 2014 06:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Yamato? I dunno shizzl

Va I told you I see his frog and toad


Like I dont get how this interaction makes him town even on gut feel.

And you are leading him as well; which OK maybe trying to goad him to make a reasonable response, but i cant follow this. Sorry.

~moc
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June 16 2014 01:51 GMT
#3438
On June 16 2014 10:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 10:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 16 2014 10:40 roundabound wrote:
On June 16 2014 05:57 Alakaslam wrote:
C'mon scum double stack me

I can take you all on
On June 16 2014 05:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Slam, I'm disappointed in you this game. I was reading you pretty townie d1, but you've slacked off.

Help me out here buddy.

Why are you town?? And who is the mafia?
On June 16 2014 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:
I been gone

Just got here

Decided "forget these 20 pages what is happening now eh?" While waiting for someone in parking lot

"HIJOLE 5 MINUTES BANDWAGON"

Then drive

So

At least I didn fret modkilled. And I am town because (host) saw for for whatever reason.

I am unsure who is scum maybe VA

I see his frog and toad
On June 16 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:


There are 5 mafia left, yes?

You gotta give me something better than VA.

But why VA?
On June 16 2014 06:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Yamato? I dunno shizzl

Va I told you I see his frog and toad


Like I dont get how this interaction makes him town even on gut feel.

And you are leading him as well; which OK maybe trying to goad him to make a reasonable response, but i cant follow this. Sorry.

~moc

Yeah, bunnies seems to assume that slam is a retard if she is town. But he isn't.


Actually, I hate the r word, so please don't use that.

Also, i dont think that all. It's just how i get my reads.

But it's obv all this is doing is discrediting me, so im just gonna shut up now.

Continue with whatever, im gonna be afk from this game for awhile.


Playing video maf tonight.

I am playing vid mafia now

ummm.. i wasnt trying to discredit you. i was saying i dont understand how you obtain such a strong disposition of that evidence.
We are asking you to walk us through it; because to JAT + myself and prob others, it looks quite vague on slam behalf.

~moc
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June 16 2014 01:51 GMT
#3439
On June 16 2014 10:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On June 16 2014 10:20 roundabound wrote:
Are we going to get an official resolution on the 5 to 6 ppl that did not vote

They were warned and will be modkilled if they don't vote again. Is this what you meant?

Thank you.
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June 16 2014 01:55 GMT
#3441
On June 16 2014 10:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Isn't that just great they were warned. Host really showed them who is boss!

Whilst I agree. I said thank you because the outcome is now known.

In fairnses, if 6 ppl were modkilled, the game could be over; or at the very least completely demotivating.

Twas a hard choice to make.

~moc
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June 16 2014 02:00 GMT
#3444
On June 16 2014 10:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@ JAT- but you were saying i thought he was one. Bleh, sorry, I just have illsentiments to that word..

@Moc- really? Also, i watched you play on DM the other day. Not too shabby.

I tried to give my explaination as best as I could, and thats what Im sticking with.

@ Banks- bout time you did some work

Playing on boonetown channel.

Thanks,
handlebars are gone

OK...
To confirm
Now that you have re-read the slam dialogue; are you standing by that content eliciting a firm town read?

~moc
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June 16 2014 04:44 GMT
#3460
On June 16 2014 13:40 yamato77 wrote:
Exo thinks I'm townier right now than D1?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

God, you n00bs make me laugh.

Yam totes town

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 16 2014 17:19 GMT
#3575
Hi Bunnies
It's nice that you took over for an inactive. I feel somewhat strong about you being town here, which saves us a possible town modkill/mislynch.
You're wrong about Mocsta being scum though. He is town by association.

Also, if vigi wants to shoot CR/SnB that would be A-OK in my book.
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June 16 2014 17:36 GMT
#3587
On June 17 2014 02:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i have nb as town and im willing to eat shit endgame if she isnt.

Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 02:32 Koshi wrote:
Everything I do is heroic by definition.


id believe it.

DO you wnt to provide anything that isn't the easiest read ever?
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June 16 2014 17:58 GMT
#3601
On June 17 2014 02:56 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 02:53 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 17 2014 02:49 Holyflare wrote:
On June 17 2014 02:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 17 2014 01:59 yamato77 wrote:
My tone is the only thing you like?

How do you people think I would post as mafia?


Like this.



If you think yamato is mafia how can you agree with the mocsta thing? :o


Because my opinion on yamato is independent of my opinion on mocsta.

Also my read on yamato is more based off of, what is he doing that is townie?

All i've seen is complaining, and nothing basically.

As town, he should be helping town.

These are the same silly things banks is saying.

You two are perfect for each other.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
I can't lynch yamato after this comment
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June 16 2014 18:22 GMT
#3619
1. ObiWanShinobi - town
2. Koshi - town
3. ritoky - meh/maf
4. Rainbows - top town
5. justanothertownie - meh/town
6. sandroba - maf
7. ExO_ - meh/town
9. Erandorr replaced by 27ninjabunnies - town
10. sinani206 - meh/maf
11. kushm4sta - meh/maf
12. Tehpoofter - town?
15. Alakaslam - meh/meh
16. mattisfoolish (Foolishness/Mattchew Hydra) - meh/maf
17. gumshoe - meh/maf
18. Chairman Ray - maf
19. roundabound (Mocsta/IAmRobik Hydra) - Toppest town
21. strongandbig - maf
23. marvellosity - towny
24. Holyflare - meh/town
25. TicaTica - meh/meh
26. ketomai - maf
27. batsnacks - meh/meh
28. VayneAuthority - meh/maf
29. Chromatically - town
30. yamato77 - maf
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June 16 2014 18:30 GMT
#3623
On June 17 2014 03:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
nine scumreads even though there are only five scum left.

thats cool.

Besides yamato, which do you not agree with?
Also, I put you as town before I decided to distinguish the people I'm not sure about with the mehs, you're a meh/town. I didn't bother going back and fixing the list.
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June 16 2014 18:41 GMT
#3625
On June 17 2014 03:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 03:30 roundabound wrote:
On June 17 2014 03:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
nine scumreads even though there are only five scum left.

thats cool.

Besides yamato, which do you not agree with?
Also, I put you as town before I decided to distinguish the people I'm not sure about with the mehs, you're a meh/town. I didn't bother going back and fixing the list.


im just making fun of you.

the sad part is that there are so many people not playing that i have to sit here and agree with your list, even though thats physically impossible.

I finally figured out the answer to your question about yamato earlier
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June 16 2014 18:49 GMT
#3628
On June 17 2014 03:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 03:41 roundabound wrote:
On June 17 2014 03:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 17 2014 03:30 roundabound wrote:
On June 17 2014 03:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
nine scumreads even though there are only five scum left.

thats cool.

Besides yamato, which do you not agree with?
Also, I put you as town before I decided to distinguish the people I'm not sure about with the mehs, you're a meh/town. I didn't bother going back and fixing the list.


im just making fun of you.

the sad part is that there are so many people not playing that i have to sit here and agree with your list, even though thats physically impossible.

I finally figured out the answer to your question about yamato earlier


oh boy. do tell.

Man, I was waiting for you to ask. I was f5ing every couple seconds.
You're calling him town so that he doesn't nk you.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Also, I want to drop some knowledge. I decided that poofter is town, not meh/town. I feel like he really really wanted to piss off palmar this game by saying wolf/villager, and I don't think he would nk him n1.
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June 16 2014 18:54 GMT
#3631
On June 17 2014 03:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On June 17 2014 03:49 roundabound wrote:
On June 17 2014 03:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 17 2014 03:41 roundabound wrote:
On June 17 2014 03:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 17 2014 03:30 roundabound wrote:
On June 17 2014 03:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
nine scumreads even though there are only five scum left.

thats cool.

Besides yamato, which do you not agree with?
Also, I put you as town before I decided to distinguish the people I'm not sure about with the mehs, you're a meh/town. I didn't bother going back and fixing the list.


im just making fun of you.

the sad part is that there are so many people not playing that i have to sit here and agree with your list, even though thats physically impossible.

I finally figured out the answer to your question about yamato earlier


oh boy. do tell.

Man, I was waiting for you to ask. I was f5ing every couple seconds.
You're calling him town so that he doesn't nk you.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Also, I want to drop some knowledge. I decided that poofter is town, not meh/town. I feel like he really really wanted to piss off palmar this game by saying wolf/villager, and I don't think he would nk him n1.


Eh, while I agree poof is prob town, I wouldn't say it's because of this reason.
Banks would kill anyone anytime as long as it is strategic and helps mafia win (he's said this himself)
Just because he wanted to piss off palmer, doesn't mean he wouldnt nk him.
Especially since it also pisses kush off.

Please to stop shitting on my reads. They're my reads. You don't have to share them. I know Banks will kill his mother IRL if it helps him win a game of mafia, but the thought came to my head so I posted it. I don't think it should be overlooked.
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June 16 2014 18:55 GMT
#3635
Plus, I dont think banks knows/cares about kush. There's just something so satisfying about pissing off palmar.
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June 16 2014 19:00 GMT
#3639
Obi, you are calling yamato town in some posts and calling him a bad shot as an information shot (not because he's town) in other posts. Please explain.
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June 16 2014 19:06 GMT
#3643
On June 17 2014 04:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On June 17 2014 04:00 roundabound wrote:
Obi, you are calling yamato town in some posts and calling him a bad shot as an information shot (not because he's town) in other posts. Please explain.


there is no discrepancy there.

yes there is

1) say yamato is a bad shot
2) say yamato is town
3) say yamato is a bad shot cause its bad for information (not a bad shot because he's town)


Feel free to explain to all us idiots calling yamato scum why yamato is town instead.

Thanks
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June 16 2014 19:14 GMT
#3647
On June 17 2014 04:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On June 17 2014 04:06 roundabound wrote:
On June 17 2014 04:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 17 2014 04:00 roundabound wrote:
Obi, you are calling yamato town in some posts and calling him a bad shot as an information shot (not because he's town) in other posts. Please explain.


there is no discrepancy there.


You have reasons for yamato being town but then you say we shouldn't shoot him for other reasons. That is weird and I want to know why because I don't like being kept in the dark. If I'm being dumb, I'm willing to admit I'm dumb.


hggfgfg

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June 16 2014 19:15 GMT
#3648
On June 17 2014 04:08 Holyflare wrote:
why is rainbows super town when you said haru/rainbows wasn't town/town?

I thought that haru was the mafia of the two. His shiftiness was very scummy. He said he was willing to back up off of rainbows. There were 2 possible reasons for that 1) he thought rainbows was town for how he was responding to him or 2) he thought that he was shitting in the thread too much and wasn't being productive. He gave neither of these answers when I asked him. That doesn't really answer why I think rainbows is town, but i thought rainbows was way townier through their interaction and reacted to everything in a way townier way. No matter, rainbows is super duper town, and I would never want to lynch him
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June 16 2014 19:23 GMT
#3651
On June 17 2014 04:17 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 17 2014 04:15 roundabound wrote:
On June 17 2014 04:08 Holyflare wrote:
why is rainbows super town when you said haru/rainbows wasn't town/town?

I thought that haru was the mafia of the two. His shiftiness was very scummy. He said he was willing to back up off of rainbows. There were 2 possible reasons for that 1) he thought rainbows was town for how he was responding to him or 2) he thought that he was shitting in the thread too much and wasn't being productive. He gave neither of these answers when I asked him. That doesn't really answer why I think rainbows is town, but i thought rainbows was way townier through their interaction and reacted to everything in a way townier way. No matter, rainbows is super duper town, and I would never want to lynch him


so why didn't you end up voting on haru then and instead voted WITH haru and ket onto yamato but not onto haru?

Australians.
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June 16 2014 19:28 GMT
#3653
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On June 17 2014 04:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
you are indeed a pair of well-spoken gentlemen. i believe i should respect your eloquence with an answer.

yamato is really uninspiring this game compared to his foundations reads (even though he wasn't REALLY in that game). I felt like I could trust his reads there, but I barely remember them here, besides that little spat he had where marv kept calling him an idiot. I guess I'll dive into that tomorrow.

P.S. thanks for the compliment.



egegegegeg USA!
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June 16 2014 19:40 GMT
#3656
On June 17 2014 04:37 justanothertownie wrote:
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On June 17 2014 03:22 roundabound wrote:
1. ObiWanShinobi - town
2. Koshi - town
3. ritoky - meh/maf
4. Rainbows - top town
5. justanothertownie - meh/town
6. sandroba - maf
7. ExO_ - meh/town
9. Erandorr replaced by 27ninjabunnies - town
10. sinani206 - meh/maf
11. kushm4sta - meh/maf
12. Tehpoofter - town?
15. Alakaslam - meh/meh
16. mattisfoolish (Foolishness/Mattchew Hydra) - meh/maf
17. gumshoe - meh/maf
18. Chairman Ray - maf
19. roundabound (Mocsta/IAmRobik Hydra) - Toppest town
21. strongandbig - maf
23. marvellosity - towny
24. Holyflare - meh/town
25. TicaTica - meh/meh
26. ketomai - maf
27. batsnacks - meh/meh
28. VayneAuthority - meh/maf
29. Chromatically - town
30. yamato77 - maf

You already touched on this a bit but why is rainbows top town exactly? I don't see it at all.

Cause he's colorful and gives me a hardon. He also voices his opinions very vocally and very often and I feel like scum bitches just sit back and take shit as it comes. If I remember correctly, his reads aligned with mine a bit in the early game. I might also be biased because I think he was one of the first people to call me town. Also, the way he approached the situation with haru (even though haru flipped town) was super town and I'm just really comfortable with him.

My read on him as town is so strong that you might as well just assume I'm a cop with a green check on him...even though I'm not the cop and I don't have any green checks.
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June 16 2014 19:53 GMT
#3661
Why do _YOU_ have JAT as town?
I know why I do.

I'll read the rest of you post in a second. That was the thing that insta-caught my eye.

I felt like I was the only one reading JAT as town lol
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June 16 2014 19:56 GMT
#3666
Ritoky, why are you building a stronger "case" against your null leaning scum reads than against your no bueno people/kill him with fire?
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June 16 2014 19:56 GMT
#3669
On June 17 2014 04:56 marvellosity wrote:
ritoky, if you're town dear, i really want to see interactivity from you during Day 3.

MARV SIGHTING!
Marv citing?
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June 16 2014 20:21 GMT
#3683
kushm4sta the ?????? has been slain!


dafuq?
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June 16 2014 20:26 GMT
#3689
I read it. I don't get it. Does that mean kush was town?
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June 16 2014 20:33 GMT
#3696
Whatever. Would like to hear more from ritoky.
Let's go ahead and push CR and SnB today.
Let's get shit done while I'm around.
I'm probably heading out to watch the USA game at a bar in 30min-1hr. May return later. Will be drunky
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June 16 2014 20:43 GMT
#3712
On June 17 2014 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:
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On June 17 2014 05:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 17 2014 05:26 roundabound wrote:
I read it. I don't get it. Does that mean kush was town?


We don't know.

He could have been town.

Or he could have been mafia, and mafia are trying to cover it up.

Wouldn't it make more sense for them to roleblock koshi instead of janitoring kush if kush was mafia? I mean they obviously were sure kush was the shot, no?

Knowing scum has a janitor gives some merit to HF's claim that he was RB'd.
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June 16 2014 20:48 GMT
#3718
On June 17 2014 05:44 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 17 2014 05:28 yamato77 wrote:
On June 17 2014 05:23 marvellosity wrote:
I'm betting a decent amount of money they have a vig

And aren't shooting... why?

It's a rather elaborate play to not use vig KP early just so you can janitor your own scumbuddy (kush) in order to hide/disguise the vig KP.

i've been jailed twice.

There's a distinction between jail and RB from mods?
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June 16 2014 20:52 GMT
#3726
I need an infinite gun. I'd steamroll the fuck out of mafia (with some useless town sprinkled in along the way...killing them first for dramatic effect).
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June 16 2014 20:56 GMT
#3732
where are the cases on gumshoe? Has he posted more than 2 times this game? Holy fuck. This is why i fucking hate big games...the inactivity is unreal and super annoying to deal with because you end up with a bunch of mafia lurking without a way of mass murdering them and you just have to pray you hit the right lurkers. In minis it's so much tougher for them to hide.


Also, from here on out, in honor of banks, I will be utilizing the terms villagers and wolves.
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June 16 2014 20:57 GMT
#3735
On June 17 2014 05:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On June 17 2014 05:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 17 2014 05:53 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 17 2014 05:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 17 2014 05:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 17 2014 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 17 2014 05:34 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Maybe JAT for his sheeping votes.

Maybe you for this bullshit.


I don't think it's bullshit.


its pretty bullshit.

also, lets kill foolishness. his case on gumshoe is awful and is completely out of character, and every single thing he accused gumshoe of doing, he himself is doing. we have no way of knowing the difference between the two, so why should we have listened to him at all? its fictional scumhunting and im totally willing to lynch him if he isnt doing anything.

he also fits the profile of inactive mafia (surprisingly), so lets take him out. we lose nothing by killing him anyway since he doesnt seem to give a shit either.

JAT is like a puppy dog, following his owner.

The teeth of puppy dogs are pretty sharp. Just saying.


Yeah, they can be.

And it's not newbie level scumhunting.

It's my sumhunting XD

confirmed newblevel.
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June 16 2014 21:05 GMT
#3745
Am I being ignored? Can someone link me to the gumshoe case? Pretty please?
Also, why are we steering away from CR who may have had the scummiest d2?
Also, why aren't we resolving SnB who 1) has been scummy 2) if town, would allow us to lynch all non-voters of that maf dude that died d1?
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June 16 2014 21:15 GMT
#3747
On June 17 2014 06:10 marvellosity wrote:
I looked at CR and I wasn't totally sure about him. I got thrown off by his retraction of his batsnacks read.

huh?
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June 16 2014 21:20 GMT
#3750
Are you ready to work together yet marv, or are you just trying to solo shit?
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June 16 2014 21:29 GMT
#3756
OK, so here are my thoughts:
if we don't have a vigi anymore, then obviously we need to be killing MIF and sandro. Having said that, I'm happier keeping them alive for now if there are better UTR targets to lynch because they COULD be useful at some point, moreso than scrubby players who will not be as useful further down the road.
The two of them (3 of them) really need to step up their game though cause this has been completely unacceptable so far.

I think that SnB fits really well in the needs to die right now, especially if you're taking CR off the table. If we find out that SnB is town, then lynching the people who voted him or tried to lead a lynch of him (maybe not lead the lynch, but maybe jumped on in the middle or end) should be our top priority. I wasn't around for that end of day, so I don't know exactly how things went down, but I think that the SnB flip would be game-changing. If SnB flips scum or especially scum PR, well then we need to look into people pushing away from SnB and the dude that was lynched. Or maybe even people who were pushing onto the lynch over SnB (yes, I know this refers to you marv and this was kinda a concern of mine several times during this game)
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June 16 2014 21:40 GMT
#3760
You have a couple hours to figure it out.
CR/SnB/ritoky/gumshoe (if someone links me a case on him)/sandro/MIF

make shit happen
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June 16 2014 23:58 GMT
#3778
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
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June 17 2014 01:11 GMT
#3790
On June 17 2014 10:00 sandroba wrote:
I'd rather get shot by mafia instead thanks. How are you certain that one of us is mafia?

Because both of your filters are about the same length with the same non-existent content (actually, I can remember 1 person who foolishmatt pushed, but I cannot say the same of you).

It's funny that you asked that question about foolishmatt when the same exact question applies to you.
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June 17 2014 03:02 GMT
#3800
On June 17 2014 11:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
is there any reason people dont want to kill mif?

i keep bringing him up and everyone is ignoring me.

It's pretty much the offchance that they actually pick up their participation and are a valuable asset to town if they're town.
Otherwise, they're definitely one of the people that I have expressed interest in. Pretty much same goes for Sandro. But really, if I'm being really really honest, I enjoy playing with sandro/mif more than other lurkers, and that might be why i'm trying to protect them more than other lurkers/scummier folk
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June 17 2014 03:22 GMT
#3802
I had a post written out about why to leave them alive, but fuck it, let's fucking lynch em.
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June 17 2014 06:10 GMT
#3815
He's saying that it's making him want to lynch MIF not obiwan. You guys can't read for shit.

Unless I'm wrong and I can't read for shit
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June 17 2014 06:29 GMT
#3817
On June 17 2014 15:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On June 17 2014 15:10 roundabound wrote:
He's saying that it's making him want to lynch MIF not obiwan. You guys can't read for shit.

Unless I'm wrong and I can't read for shit


everyone is wrong. everyone is wrong and marv is actually mafia.

yeah, no shit. we can leave him for later though.
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June 17 2014 07:31 GMT
#3821
Jat, who are you saving tonight?
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June 17 2014 07:31 GMT
#3822
we should coordinate our night actions
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June 17 2014 07:45 GMT
#3825
It's 12:43am in California and I am bored playing video mafia and I want to interact with someone.
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June 17 2014 07:49 GMT
#3827
Video maf so easy and boring. No one listens to me there. Must get listened to here
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June 17 2014 08:51 GMT
#3831
On June 17 2014 17:45 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 17 2014 15:29 roundabound wrote:
On June 17 2014 15:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 17 2014 15:10 roundabound wrote:
He's saying that it's making him want to lynch MIF not obiwan. You guys can't read for shit.

Unless I'm wrong and I can't read for shit


everyone is wrong. everyone is wrong and marv is actually mafia.

yeah, no shit. we can leave him for later though.

you are an idiot.

I'm Marv and I'm so thick that I can't read sarcasm through the interwebz

egegege
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June 17 2014 08:58 GMT
#3835
On June 17 2014 17:52 marvellosity wrote:
what sarcasm? you've been dumb towards me all game, don't try say it's sarcasm now.

I said I changed my read on you a while ago numb nuts. And he was clearly being sarcastic too. You need to get your head out of your ass.
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June 17 2014 09:01 GMT
#3837
On June 17 2014 17:54 marvellosity wrote:
In any case, if anyone can rationalise those wagon fears over MiF for me, I'd love to kill him. but it makes me scared.

I have like 30 possible reasons -- two which stand out being: a bunch of mafia were being voted on or mafia weren't around. Assumptions can make an ass out of you and me though.

Oh, it's really tough to push against a wagon of a mafia teammate who isn't there. Mafia would get really self-conscious about it wondering if it would make them look scummy.

Having said all that, MIF has managed to escape lynch twice then, so mafia did something right if MIF is maf.
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June 17 2014 11:32 GMT
#3880
On June 17 2014 18:23 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 17 2014 18:01 roundabound wrote:
On June 17 2014 17:54 marvellosity wrote:
In any case, if anyone can rationalise those wagon fears over MiF for me, I'd love to kill him. but it makes me scared.

I have like 30 possible reasons -- two which stand out being: a bunch of mafia were being voted on or mafia weren't around. Assumptions can make an ass out of you and me though.

Oh, it's really tough to push against a wagon of a mafia teammate who isn't there. Mafia would get really self-conscious about it wondering if it would make them look scummy.

Having said all that, MIF has managed to escape lynch twice then, so mafia did something right if MIF is maf.

None of that sounds very convincing though. Mafia all just afk? We managed to be on a bunch of correct wagons? Well we know that's not true, we know that Haru flipped town and Haru was one of the 3-vote wagons at that time. I don't think it's that tough to push against a 5-vote wagon, you just push someone else who you're not pushing for being afk :/

I hate having to rely on rank incompetence in order for something to be true. And that's how it seems atm. Although it's definitely possible. Maf doing something right would in this case mean not trying to save their buddy in any way and hoping marv changes his mind based on this (even though he did not even begin to look like he would on d1 when the wagon was easy)

Mr Marvelous.

I disagree with your assessment.

A 3-man wagon was about all that town could muster without your support.
That 3-man wagon took a lot of campaigning to achieve.

~moc
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June 17 2014 19:30 GMT
#3923
can we get a list of people who didnt vote yesterday and who havent voted today?
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June 17 2014 20:10 GMT
#3926
So gumshoe os the only one who isnt even really around or participating so he'll probably get modkilled. Instead of voting him we should focus on sandro and snb.

Also super shady that I dont remember MattIsPhil voting or saying anything today or any other day but hes apparently been aroumd enough to vote today.

Just kiddong. I scrolled up and saw he didnt gote today. I giess he voted yesrtdy. Lets lynch that scum!
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June 17 2014 20:10 GMT
#3927
That crosspost so real lololol
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June 17 2014 21:00 GMT
#3936
Yamato, hes too buay being n0'd in video mafia. I think he exp3cted foolishness to carry in either role. Chew's town play is about as inactive. Having aaid that, matt enjoys town and HATES mafia.
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June 18 2014 00:55 GMT
#3959
On June 17 2014 11:01 sandroba wrote:
Well I know I'm town and was busy and that's why I didn't read at all the past couple days. I don't know what's up with foolishness, if he is town I expect something good from him today. [red]You can lynch me if I don't pick up the pace okay, because I will. I took a look at snb filter and he is a lurker too, so I see that it's become a problem and I'm sorry to be part of it. We will have to deal with it. I don't think snb should be priority though, as it's pretty rare for 2 mafia to be competing on the chopping block day 1. I would go with foolishness for now. I'm gonna take a look on the day 1 events after the koc push started, as I believe most of the good info should be there and I recomend people to do the same.
[/b]
Its been over 24 hrs since this post came out.

Need more from sandroba than this week, unsubstantiated stuff on 2 thread sentiment lynches

##Unvote
##Vote: Sandroba


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June 18 2014 00:56 GMT
#3960
Formatting
On June 17 2014 11:01 sandroba wrote:
Well I know I'm town and was busy and that's why I didn't read at all the past couple days. I don't know what's up with foolishness, if he is town I expect something good from him today. You can lynch me if I don't pick up the pace okay, because I will. I took a look at snb filter and he is a lurker too, so I see that it's become a problem and I'm sorry to be part of it. We will have to deal with it. I don't think snb should be priority though, as it's pretty rare for 2 mafia to be competing on the chopping block day 1. I would go with foolishness for now. I'm gonna take a look on the day 1 events after the koc push started, as I believe most of the good info should be there and I recomend people to do the same.

Its been over 24 hrs since this post came out.

Need more from sandroba than this week, unsubstantiated stuff on 2 thread sentiment lynches

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June 18 2014 01:00 GMT
#3961
On June 18 2014 09:29 TicaTica wrote:
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On June 18 2014 08:54 yamato77 wrote:
On June 18 2014 08:02 TicaTica wrote:
On June 18 2014 07:58 yamato77 wrote:
On June 18 2014 06:55 mattisfoolish wrote:
ok so my buddy foolishness is correct, we think that sandroba is mafia, so marv, thats a fine vote right there if it said the right name.

secondly, gumshoe is probably mafia as well

i think obi is mafia, his posts during n2(?) were really really off putting to me, however my partnah disagrees and doesnt think so cause he's a silly willy

people who shouldnt be lynched until everyone else is dead include

marv, chrom, batsnacks, ticatica, round, CR, 27nb

no, matt, no

No, yam, no

y u no play gaem

First off, you of all people have no right to accuse me of not playing. I've done a lot of shit this game. Way more than you have. If you had payed attention at all, you'd have read that I got a townie lynched. Not Marv. Not Koshi. Not you or fool Sandroba or anyone else. I pushed the fuck out of that lynch. As much as I could. I was wrong. Don't care. I'm doing as much as my availability allows.

Why aren't you playing? Why when you come up as a target do I even need to defend you against anyone? Why are you bothering to do nothing all game? Like town isn't in a great spot. We've got half the game be mostly inactive (myself included). Why is it that I've pushed a lynch harder than you have in 3 days? Why do you not feel the need to leave town in a better situation and push your reads when you can instead of just picking at people. Like do you not get the point of me prodding you? Make a point. Read a filter. You're not incapable but it's like you're choosing to be so. Don't pick at me when I'm doing as much as I can when I can.

I like never want to lynxh tica for this post lol
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June 18 2014 01:15 GMT
#3964
On June 18 2014 10:05 Rainbows wrote:
Hello CR you are mafia. How do you plea?

rainbows; you are in my top town circle

but qs like this do not help ppl read you; nor, does it help to get a read off rainbow.

Regarding Ketomai: yes still scummy; however, if we look @ opportunity cost: Sandroba represents a much bigger trophy than the unknown ketomai.

Sandroba out of his own accord promised to contribute, and has failed to deliver.
This is beyond a policy lynch now, we are into day3; and sandroba filter has not cracked 1 page; nor has it produced a single post of merit.

We have lazy, high-profile scum here and a perfect opportunity to eradicate scum

~moc
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June 18 2014 01:43 GMT
#3972
I had a few brain cells birn out trying to digure oit where batsnakcs was going with thag post
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June 18 2014 01:46 GMT
#3975
Id also like to say this: ive been on vacation in california ajd ive been able to put forth a shitton more than effort than maty and foolishmess. I get really frustrated by people who sign up for games and dont play. Te whole point of hydeaong is to be able to put in effort when a solo smission wont fly. This is unacceptable and both of you should be embarrassed. If you dony like and dont eant to play forum mafia, sont play. Stop ruining people's games. Idgaf if this is some sort of maf UtR strat or not, tjis is not how mafoa is played.

/rant
Still pissed
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June 18 2014 01:52 GMT
#3982
On June 18 2014 10:50 batsnacks wrote:
So, since mattisfoolish is quiet, they must be being quiet as a strategy. Which is a mafia strategy.

Someone please tell me that makes sense.

Maybe?

Or they could jist not want to participate as much cause theyre maf and being maf isnt enjoyable.
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June 18 2014 01:53 GMT
#3983
Banks confirmed maf. He and I are on the same team
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June 18 2014 01:55 GMT
#3986
On June 18 2014 10:48 Rainbows wrote:
At least you are town, amirite round? /buddy

/buddy means "end buddy"
You dont wanna be my bff nomore?
dont make me rescind my top town read on you

+ Show Spoiler +
yea right, thatll never happen ^_^
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June 18 2014 02:01 GMT
#3988
Great minds think alike.

Will do that when I get home. At the airport on my phome. Too hard.
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June 18 2014 02:09 GMT
#3991
Im town so I should be off you list
Poofter is dead and flipped town so he should also be off you team.
The rwst or your reads dony mesh with mine too mich either
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June 18 2014 02:17 GMT
#3996
Marv and holy shouldnt even be looked at until like f3. In fact, we should make it a missiom to have a hf/marv/me f3 if possible. That would be so much fucking fun

Also, remove bunnies. She doesnt sub in and kill banks
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June 18 2014 02:28 GMT
#4000
They are probably both town. Of the two HF more likely maf given d1.
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June 18 2014 02:36 GMT
#4002
We should call the smurfs some trash players names so they get really mad and upset

Si ya, tica confirmed trashcam DP
Obiwan prolly that new guy Eden.
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June 18 2014 02:41 GMT
#4005
On June 18 2014 11:39 yamato77 wrote:
batsnacks' reads are like, total sheep reads

idk if I believe he has those reads

Did you read his reads?!?!? None of them seem sheeped. Bunnies...me...hf/marv all maf.
Gumshoe town.

Who is he sheeping these reads from? Lol
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June 18 2014 02:42 GMT
#4007
On June 18 2014 11:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 11:36 roundabound wrote:
We should call the smurfs some trash players names so they get really mad and upset

Si ya, tica confirmed trashcam DP
Obiwan prolly that new guy Eden.


lol.

i hate you robik.

I mean, it was him, phagga, shiaopi or JJD.
Pick your poison.
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June 18 2014 02:53 GMT
#4015
On June 18 2014 11:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
though ill take basically anyone besides eden. seriously. anyone.

ill even be balla24, and thats saying something.

also, i have batsnacks as town. can we not push him instead of the people that arent doing things? thanks.

Ok, you can be cavalinho or sqrt-1. Theyre anyone but eden
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June 18 2014 03:00 GMT
#4021
JK needs to not JK marv tonight. Just let medic put a protection on him. Marv is needed tonight for serious business.
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June 18 2014 03:07 GMT
#4025
On June 18 2014 12:05 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 18 2014 11:41 roundabound wrote:
On June 18 2014 11:39 yamato77 wrote:
batsnacks' reads are like, total sheep reads

idk if I believe he has those reads

Did you read his reads?!?!? None of them seem sheeped. Bunnies...me...hf/marv all maf.
Gumshoe town.

Who is he sheeping these reads from? Lol


If those are batsnacks reads, they are pretty terrible.

Our reads are like, purely opposite.


Saying my reads are "terrible" and not giving a reason is the rhetorical equivalent of you just saying "bllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh"

Just saying.

If a lot of people are reading the aame thing and you're the one that has different reads and youee town, YOU need to explain to us why our reads are wrong
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 03:14 GMT
#4032
On June 18 2014 12:00 roundabound wrote:
JK needs to not JK marv tonight. Just let medic put a protection on him. Marv is needed tonight for serious business.

Yes, I need to reinforce this... even though its not night cycle

~moc
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June 18 2014 03:42 GMT
#4041
On June 18 2014 12:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
roundabound answer my question.

Which?
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June 18 2014 03:50 GMT
#4044
On June 18 2014 12:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
batsnacks, if we put any stock into marv's protection claim, then he's obviously going to be alive for quite a while. idk about hf though, i have him as town as of right now but its a toss up because his scumhunting is always weird imo.

also, robik, answer my question. ive got a brand to maintain and im not gonna rep total shmucks.

Oh no. The dude is terrible. He kept getting lynched on d1...once as the cop

Youve lasted too long in the game to be him
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June 18 2014 03:52 GMT
#4045
[QUOTE]On June 18 2014 12:50 batsnacks wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 18 2014 12:34 sinani206 wrote:
By the way.

I just pulled up Palmar's point list in Excel, and with the one scum data point we have, and assuming kushm4sta was town to be safe, there are 7 names below KotC. I'm not saying that there are all five (or four) scum in there, but most the common reads that people have right now are in there. I think we should definitely lynch in this list.
  • ketomai
  • ritoky
  • Holyflare
  • sandroba
  • strongandbig
  • VayneAuthority
  • mattisfoolish
I do think that Holyflare changed his play significantly from when Palmar made the list, so I guess we can leave him alive until we lynch through at least some of the others.

You might say that the point system is arbitrary, but it does seem to be working so far, so unless a bunch of outliers start appearing, it does seem to me like something that we as town can use to our advantage.[/QUOTE]
Look, you see this? This is why I think he's mafia. [/QUOTE
That post was fantastic. Taking off in 1 min. Airplane mode coming on
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June 18 2014 06:25 GMT
#4062
On June 18 2014 06:55 mattisfoolish wrote:
ok so my buddy foolishness is correct, we think that sandroba is mafia, so marv, thats a fine vote right there if it said the right name.

secondly, gumshoe is probably mafia as well

i think obi is mafia, his posts during n2(?) were really really off putting to me, however my partnah disagrees and doesnt think so cause he's a silly willy

people who shouldnt be lynched until everyone else is dead include

marv, chrom, batsnacks, ticatica, round, CR, 27nb

So, this is way more than sandro has done and hos list isnt terrible. It at least shows a semblance of paying attention and knowing whats going on.

As I was tyoing that to say we shouldnt lynch MIF, I realized that thats probably even scummier than just not showing up like gumshoe is doing.

Not sure if it is scummier than sandro promising in the thread to pick up activity and then disappearing though.
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June 18 2014 06:27 GMT
#4063
On June 18 2014 15:25 TicaTica wrote:
ok so holy shit I'm an idiot and missed Robik's joke at me.

It was like a 3/10 at best. I swear I have much better material in my arsenal.

The obi stuff was way better
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June 18 2014 06:30 GMT
#4064
2nd leg of my flight back home is supposed to take off in 20 minutes or so. Would like to hear opinions (specifically from marv who should be getting to work sometime soon) before the flight leaves.
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 06:46 GMT
#4066
Cmon brits!!!!
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 06:54 GMT
#4067
Bye
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June 18 2014 10:16 GMT
#4094
If Sandy gets Brazil-time
I get tonight, Aussie time. If Netherlands can beat Spain 5-1.. im scared that we might lose in double digits

~moc
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June 18 2014 11:10 GMT
#4097
Im alive!!!

And yea. Hi balla
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June 18 2014 11:21 GMT
#4098
On June 18 2014 18:01 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 12:00 roundabound wrote:
JK needs to not JK marv tonight. Just let medic put a protection on him. Marv is needed tonight for serious business.

oh please tell me you didn't.

You dont wamma have fun with me?
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June 18 2014 11:29 GMT
#4100
On June 18 2014 20:26 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 20:21 roundabound wrote:
On June 18 2014 18:01 marvellosity wrote:
On June 18 2014 12:00 roundabound wrote:
JK needs to not JK marv tonight. Just let medic put a protection on him. Marv is needed tonight for serious business.

oh please tell me you didn't.

You dont wamma have fun with me?

that particular thing can wait until postgame :d whatever it may be. Tension mounts.

Think about it. I expect your decision before nighttime. Otherwise the two of us are not gonna have fun. If you decide you want JK to rand, ill choose someone else to have fun with
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June 18 2014 11:33 GMT
#4103
Wait, I dont think the JK matters. Scratch that. JK can still be on marv. Im an idiot
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June 18 2014 11:36 GMT
#4105
Would be funny if marv was the most useless cop of all time cause even though hes kept alive, he cant get any checks Lolololol
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June 18 2014 12:14 GMT
#4115
Yamato, im not calling you out, per say, but you are really aloof this game. You seem to lack confidencr amd conviction. Me no likey
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June 18 2014 12:48 GMT
#4122
I have a soft spot for people who have outrageous reads...wolves, especially someone like batsnacks, don't come out of left field with reads that are so absurdly opposite from the reads the majority of the thread has. I think most wolves just follow along with general concensus, especially if things are going ok for them (given that kush is a villager)

RIP Banks
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June 18 2014 12:54 GMT
#4127
Kinda? I dont remember exactly, but I was a wolf that game and he was calling me out as a wolf even when the majority of the thread had me as villager, although I think it was mostly based off of shiaopi (who I subbed in for). Its a bit difficult to distinguish ones motives when in cell I was a wopf and know he was a villager, whereas in this game im a villager and dont know his alignment.
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June 18 2014 17:09 GMT
#4169
This is a wagon I can get behind.

On June 19 2014 02:04 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 02:02 TicaTica wrote:
#vote chairman ray


.....


On June 19 2014 02:04 marvellosity wrote:
yes that's a terrible vote.


On June 19 2014 02:05 TicaTica wrote:
Marv I don't care how bad you think my vote is.

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June 18 2014 18:10 GMT
#4189
My thoughts and prayers go out to my buddy mocsta.

RIP Australia World Cup 2014
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June 18 2014 18:14 GMT
#4192
On June 19 2014 03:10 roundabound wrote:
My thoughts and prayers go out to my buddy mocsta.

RIP Australia World Cup 2014

Actually, very surprising game.
Can be proud to have still lost that one; and can't believe I feel like we shoulda won.
Amazing world cup, this brazil one is

~moc
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June 18 2014 18:18 GMT
#4194
On June 18 2014 21:58 yamato77 wrote:
Well you acted like you knew him better than me, I kind of expected you to have a reason for it.

Sorry. I was driving when I read this and forgot to respond.

It's a read I have of mafia in general, but when I said Batsnacks, I just envision a noob player who doesn't think very deeply about the game. That's why he's so fixated in his reads the entirety of the game. I do capitulate that not adjusting reads as the game progresses is definitely a mafia trait moreso than a town one.

Whatever, I lean town on him as it seems like he's trying to figure out the game, even if I don't agree with his reads and his methodology.
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June 18 2014 18:19 GMT
#4196
On June 19 2014 03:16 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 03:07 Chromatically wrote:
On June 18 2014 14:26 batsnacks wrote:
On June 18 2014 14:20 Chromatically wrote:
I'm really sorry again that I can only drop a few posts before leaving, but it's really late for me and I this is my only opportunity for this right now. Leave questions for me if you have them and I can probably get them tomorrow morning. I'll make sure to step it up when I can.


Why sandroba and not mattisfoolish?

I think sandroba's promising contribution and then not delivering is worse than MF's limited contribution. Assuming he votes so that he doesn't get modkilled: sandroba gets back from his absence, says specifically that he'll look at the D1 votes and put something up, but then doesn't do anything until just before deadline?

But since he hasn't posted anything since then, he probably is a modkill, so I'm down with a MF lynch.

##Unvote
##Vote: mattisfoolish

So suppose for the sake of argument sandroba is actually town and remembers the game an hour or two before deadline. He comes in and realizes if he doesn't vote he gets modkilled, and if he does we lynch him tomorrow. Would it be a "strategic modkill" and thus cheating if he just continues not posting and gets modkilled?

I was thinking about this and was about to post a PSA to him that if he's town, he should just not post and get modkilled at this point. Actually, he should do that if he's mafia too
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June 18 2014 18:20 GMT
#4197
I do appreciate that SnB's contribution today is pretty much just asking sandro to get modkilled
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June 18 2014 18:21 GMT
#4198
On June 18 2014 23:34 strongandbig wrote:
I tried to random filter read vayne authority but there's like nothing there that gives a hint of his thought process, just some pictures and some random unjustified conclusions

I don't feel like he was like this when I played with him before? This is more what id expect from kush or like mrzentor

Unfortunately I don't know what this means for him alignment wise because I haven't played much for a while.
So filter read: failure

Oh, and this gem
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June 18 2014 18:24 GMT
#4202
On June 19 2014 03:22 Chromatically wrote:
Yes it would be? Ideally he wouldn't have let it get to that point as town.

If he is town, in theory he should do townie stuff all of N3 so that we don't want to lynch him D4. But that is a reasonable point against lynching him today if he shows up.

I liked you a lot d1, but don't remember anything from you d2 or d3. It seems like you skating by off of that d1 town read that a lot of people gave you. Please step up your game if you're town. The majority of the posts I remember from you the past 2 days are excuses for a lack of participation.
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June 18 2014 18:47 GMT
#4211
JAILKEEPER, YOU CAN JAILKEEP MARV.
My almighty triple stack night action will still go through on him (mod confirmed)
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June 18 2014 18:54 GMT
#4218
So, unless we have unanimously decided that we're lynching MIF today and there's nothing that's going to stop us barring some absolutely atrocious scum slip, I think it would be wise to have some sort of counter-wagon with a significant number of votes.
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June 18 2014 18:59 GMT
#4224
On June 19 2014 03:54 roundabound wrote:
So, unless we have unanimously decided that we're lynching MIF today and there's nothing that's going to stop us barring some absolutely atrocious scum slip, I think it would be wise to have some sort of counter-wagon with a significant number of votes.

quoted for new page.
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June 18 2014 19:05 GMT
#4234
Cause competing wagons is good for information, specifically voting analysis. We keep avoiding SnB, but lynching him would help solve the game no matter his role. This is why resolving wagons is a really really important thing for vigis to do.
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June 18 2014 19:08 GMT
#4239
On June 19 2014 04:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 04:05 roundabound wrote:
Cause competing wagons is good for information, specifically voting analysis. We keep avoiding SnB, but lynching him would help solve the game no matter his role. This is why resolving wagons is a really really important thing for vigis to do.

Our vigi is dead.

yeah, no shit. unless we lynch SnB we won't know what was up d1. nevertheless, i was bringing up the SnB thing because I am trying to explain why we should have a 2nd wagon to MIF. If we unanimously vote him off, mafia can just jump on at any time and not look too shady doing so.
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June 18 2014 19:11 GMT
#4242
On June 19 2014 04:09 Holyflare wrote:
How on earth does a second wagon give any information whatsoever when the mif lynch is pretty definitive?

I already said, that if we have unanimously decided to lynch MIF then it doesn't matter. If we haven't fully committed to it, then a counterwagon is a good thing to have. Did you even read my original post?
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June 18 2014 19:31 GMT
#4260
On June 19 2014 04:30 marvellosity wrote:
(er, and woman)

:x

The lack of excitement in your tone/realization of this fact is quite noticeable.
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June 18 2014 19:32 GMT
#4262
Rainbows,

Everything going according to plan my man. I'm almost soulbound to you.
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June 18 2014 19:33 GMT
#4263
On June 19 2014 04:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 04:31 roundabound wrote:
On June 19 2014 04:30 marvellosity wrote:
(er, and woman)

:x

The lack of excitement in your tone/realization of this fact is quite noticeable.

dunno what you're trying to say babe.

also lol spain.

Yay men!


oh and a woman
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 19:35 GMT
#4267
The group of people voting MIF right now is the majority of my town list.
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June 18 2014 19:38 GMT
#4272
On June 19 2014 04:35 Rainbows wrote:
Soulbound? So i can't trade you for some shiny coins?

You're all caught up, yes?
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June 18 2014 19:41 GMT
#4274
Marv, are you ready. 20 more minutes til we have some fun.
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June 18 2014 19:43 GMT
#4277
Lol Spain again...wow
~moc
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June 18 2014 19:44 GMT
#4278
marv, have you figured out what's going on yet?
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June 18 2014 19:44 GMT
#4280
RIP Spain World Cup 2014
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June 18 2014 19:44 GMT
#4281
Chair is one scummy muda farka

Who wants to do a last minute swap???

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 19:45 GMT
#4283
Thought a third was incoming lol
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June 18 2014 19:46 GMT
#4285
On June 19 2014 04:44 roundabound wrote:
Chair is one scummy muda farka

Who wants to do a last minute swap???

~moc

me

~rob
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June 18 2014 19:47 GMT
#4287
On June 19 2014 04:46 justanothertownie wrote:
Mocsta why are you only talking about the world cup and let your buddy do all the work? Is this lynch not interesting to you?

lynching afkers isn't much fun
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June 18 2014 19:48 GMT
#4288
U r correct jat

Now let me wqatch my game in peace
It's 3.50am

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 19:48 GMT
#4289
Rob
Since u my birch
Vote cr for us pl0x
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June 18 2014 19:49 GMT
#4292
On June 19 2014 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 04:47 roundabound wrote:
On June 19 2014 04:46 justanothertownie wrote:
Mocsta why are you only talking about the world cup and let your buddy do all the work? Is this lynch not interesting to you?

lynching afkers isn't much fun

Ok, do you disagree with the lynch though?

The answer is in our filter
Stop twitching thy ass
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June 18 2014 19:52 GMT
#4295
On June 19 2014 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 04:47 roundabound wrote:
On June 19 2014 04:46 justanothertownie wrote:
Mocsta why are you only talking about the world cup and let your buddy do all the work? Is this lynch not interesting to you?

lynching afkers isn't much fun

Ok, do you disagree with the lynch though?

Not really. I would have voted Sandro over MIF today if Sandro wasn't gonna be modkilled. If I were voting for my top wolf who is participating, it would be CR. Fits the general mafia trend of good d1, fall off into oblivion, with the occasional crappy post and horrendous vote.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 19:54 GMT
#4300
Read above
Robin has got it dead on
And what didn't u get about it being 4am

I'm up to watch soccer. Not play mafia
I'm here precisely because it's half time

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 19:54 GMT
#4301
marv will be able to confirm me as town shortly.
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 19:57 GMT
#4308
On June 19 2014 04:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 04:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 19 2014 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:
This is confusing...


Ffs.

Why did you post this?

Hm? Because I wasn't sure if Mocsta signed all his posts. Turns out he did and I misunderstood.

I think mocsta didn't sign 1 post so far and it was earlier. He also fake signed 2 posts as me when he was drunk LOL
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 19:58 GMT
#4311
On June 19 2014 04:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
4 scumreads voting MIF.

Either major bus or ml incoming boys!!

Feels like bus given when they jumped on.

Was gonna make a similar post putting names of people I don't like in Red who are voting MIF
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 19:59 GMT
#4314
Lol
Robik hahha.. was testing u read what I write hahha!!

Vote chair for me pls
~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:01 GMT
#4321
Worst Mods NA
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:02 GMT
#4324
That flip has been evident for hours.. .
What's the hols up

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:03 GMT
#4330
Can we get mif then
And deal with the other 2 later please
~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:03 GMT
#4331
On June 19 2014 05:02 marvellosity wrote:
2/3 mafia would be nice. Expecting 1/3 somehow :/ 0/3 I am pretending is not an option

If 0/3 you're back on the chopping blocks bitch!
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:05 GMT
#4338
The only acceptable (and prolly not even) replacement would be for gumshoe.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:06 GMT
#4341
Take Costa off already
And post some God damb flips
~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:07 GMT
#4342
f5 button stopped working. gotta ctrl+r now. Hopefully I don't break both of them too
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:08 GMT
#4344
My theory.

Costa is a scum infiltrators from Brazil.
His mission to sabbotage Spain.

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:12 GMT
#4355
GG town concedes
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:12 GMT
#4357
Wow.

Busquets lol
~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:13 GMT
#4358
Ohhhhh shit.....

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:13 GMT
#4359
On the brightside, we still have all our important blues
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:14 GMT
#4361
On June 19 2014 05:12 justanothertownie wrote:
What is this shit. Why are we arguing over bad behaviour while this is a thing. omg...

Whoever said this earlier is spot on. And Foolishness championed that thread. Unacceptable.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:19 GMT
#4368
Chair
Snb
Ketomai
Vayne

1 of slam/ritoky
For the win.
g
Yes lurkers. And all laughing and dancing about how today went down..

~moc

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:20 GMT
#4369
Deja vu bow man

It's a mind meld !!

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:22 GMT
#4373
If it's 14/5 and we have no vigi and they have 2 KP for a minimum of 3 nights that's

12-5
12-4
10-4
10-3
8-3
8-2

or
8-3
7-3
5-3

8-2 isn't terrible but that means we have to lynch correctly every day. If we fuck up once we pretty much go into instant mylo.

If it's 15-4, the situation isn't as dire
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:26 GMT
#4376
On June 19 2014 05:25 marvellosity wrote:
they'd be down to 1kp at 3 mafia. we need to get 2 lynches in a row right.

Oh ok. We use 2kp til 2 in video hence my calcs.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:29 GMT
#4381
On June 19 2014 05:16 sinani206 wrote:
1. ObiWanShinobi
3. ritoky
4. Rainbows
5. justanothertownie
7. ExO_
9. 27ninjabunnies
10. sinani206
15. Alakaslam
18. Chairman Ray
19. roundabound (Mocsta/IAmRobik Hydra)
21. strongandbig
23. marvellosity
24. Holyflare
25. TicaTica
26. ketomai
27. batsnacks
28. VayneAuthority
29. Chromatically
30. yamato77

what is that 19 people?
4/5 scum, 14/15 town?

i only have ketomai right now i need to go read more people

Not sure what my reads were before, but I bolded the people I think are most town now. Underlined the most scumy. The rest I have some sort of small lean one way or other (i.e. slightly more town on yamato, slightly more scum on chrom)
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:34 GMT
#4384
On June 19 2014 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Mafia basically knew from the beginning of the day that we would lynch either MIF or sandro. They didn't need to do anything.

This is a good point. It's kinda why I was suggesting a counterwagon onto someone else. At least then they would be forced to take a stance one way or other. But yes, I agree with your point that mafia prolly took a backseat on this lynch...in fact, one of my main wolf-leans did just that.

Pause for a quick commercial break while I pull up the thread and find the post:



AAAAAANNNND WE'RE BACK!

On June 19 2014 04:36 Chairman Ray wrote:
Okay, I'm caught up, I think we got a good lynch

Doesn't really make a difference, but

##Unvote
##Vote: MattIisfoolish


The red is pretty much verbatim what you're describing.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:37 GMT
#4386
Is someone about to call me mafia for trying to figure out the game? Is this real life? Is that even a real thing?
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:38 GMT
#4387
On June 19 2014 05:36 Chairman Ray wrote:
Is Round the only one who seems really motivated right now?

Motivated to lynch you
What are you implying?

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 20:51 GMT
#4401
On June 19 2014 05:43 Chairman Ray wrote:
I don't know if I can speak the same for you, but after that flip, I kinda just want the game to end. It must be a pretty good boost for anyone who's mafia though.

Also kind of fishy when you're the only one who's trying to figure the game out at the start of the night phase. You don't think that maybe the mafia might try to kill you for it?


I welcome being shot the way this is going

Please shoot me chair
Otherwise I will lead your lynch tomorrow
~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 21:01 GMT
#4406
Rainbows,

if you're not vigi like you claimed to me in our hidden code in the thread, I'm going to lead a lynch against you. You better shoot soon.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 21:20 GMT
#4409
This is boring. Marv is like negative fun. Should have picked someone else. ObiWanRobikJr would have been fun.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 21:32 GMT
#4411
Are you town slam?
If you're town, why didn't you get a beer with me in SF?
That's pretty scummy.

vote: slamjamnothankyoumaam
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 22:00 GMT
#4419
I've been pondering the idea of a mass claim. This feels like a decent moment for it.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 22:11 GMT
#4422
On June 19 2014 07:01 marvellosity wrote:
i've been pondering it too. except i decided it wasn't the right moment :p

I didn't mean in the night phase. I meant start of the day. If we have 6 blues, that leaves 13 more players. If we take into consideration the reads we have, we can deduce if someone is fake claiming, and blues would probably have left some breadcrumbs somewhere they can point to, something mafia prolly wouldn't have done, not knowing what they need to counterclaim.

I, for one, have left hints all thread
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Niue881 Posts
June 18 2014 23:18 GMT
#4428
Slam,

Who do you have as town? Why?
Who do you have as mafia? Why?

Thanks.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 01:00 GMT
#4432
I guess we're going for the silent, 0 activity night
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 02:02 GMT
#4437
Case: CR

##Vote: ChairmanRay

'Nuff Said

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 14:21 GMT
#4464
Not that I'm reading into it or anything, but generally a list of people not to lynch is a town list. I can see why marv might have come to that conclusion. Can you explain which non-town are in that list?
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 14:28 GMT
#4466
On June 19 2014 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 23:21 roundabound wrote:
Not that I'm reading into it or anything, but generally a list of people not to lynch is a town list. I can see why marv might have come to that conclusion. Can you explain which non-town are in that list?

If I knew there was non-town in that list that person wouldn't be in that list.

So, it is a townlist? LOL
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 14:49 GMT
#4473
Lonely I'm Mr Lonely,
I have nobody,
For my own
I'm so lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely
I have nobody,
For my own
I'm so lonely
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 14:59 GMT
#4477
For postgame discussion: It has become a travesty that mafia turned into a game of guess and check because people are unwilling to participate. Lurking and giving 0 information has become a legitimate mafia strategy because townies don't care about putting in effort, to the point of getting modkilled. There are people still alive who have not provided any information to go off of for "range merging?" reasons, which is fucking asinine. If games continue like this, mafia on TL is going to die.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 15:17 GMT
#4479
I tried to read VA's filter. I thought it'd be tough since I'm illiterate, but it was a picture book, so I was able to get through it quite easily.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 16:13 GMT
#4485
who cares who dies? just cross your fingers and hope you're night killed.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 16:42 GMT
#4490
On June 20 2014 01:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
even if bussing exists it is a clear lapse in logic that shows zero attention for the game

Please stop. Your participation this game is on par with gumshoe's. The only difference is that you actually vote.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 16:54 GMT
#4495
On June 20 2014 01:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 01:42 roundabound wrote:
On June 20 2014 01:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
even if bussing exists it is a clear lapse in logic that shows zero attention for the game

Please stop. Your participation this game is on par with gumshoe's. The only difference is that you actually vote.


give me a reason to participate then. its your fault as much as anyone else's. the spam in this game and the sheeping is ludicrious. literally 0 reason to play so fuck off buddy.

Cause the point of signing up for games is to fucking play them, not to sit idly and then get called out for doing jack shit and then cry about people spamming cause they're trying to solve the game. You also cry about sheeping, but have yet to make a case on anyone. Feel free to do so, so that you're not just a lazy, useless hypocrite.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 16:56 GMT
#4496
On June 20 2014 01:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
what exactly has roundabout done besides call marv mafia anyway? rofl your contributions are worse then gumshoe.

mocsta made a case on someone.
i brought up points for and against people
both of us gave reads on who we think are scum

That's already 1000x more than you've done.

Although, I must say, the pictures you posted definitely helped me figure out your alignment and definitely showed that you were involved in the game and trying to figure it out.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 16:56 GMT
#4497
On June 20 2014 01:49 Holyflare wrote:
england match today so excuse me while i go get hammered beyond belief and cheer like crazy and then later drown sorrows

scum
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 16:59 GMT
#4501
Besides "slam is town and i don't know who is mafia" what are your reads?
I mean, if you're not reading the thread, I understand why you can't have an opinion on things, but then why sign up to play the game if you're not going to read the thread?

ugh. i'm over it. I'll just let marv, jat, and rainbows deal with the people who refuse to play. Oh, and mocsta, if he wants to take on lurkerville.
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 17:06 GMT
#4505
Slam, in foundations you were trying to solve the game. you were posting more and your posts had some sort of logic (from the few sentences that i could figure out), and thus i was able to put you in my villager list after originally thinking you were a wolf.

This is very much not the same game.
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 17:23 GMT
#4509
On June 20 2014 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
slam is town guys back down

Feel free to elaborate on how you got this read.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 17:24 GMT
#4510
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 20 2014 02:16 batsnacks wrote:
I hope mafia pick me so I don't have to suffer through the rest of this game.


I concur
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 17:25 GMT
#4511
+ Show Spoiler +
Where is + Show Spoiler +
my homie
obitwice
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 17:31 GMT
#4513
Holy shit, Slam's filter is 10 pages?!?!?!?
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 17:32 GMT
#4514
RIP Côte d'Ivoire World Cup 2014
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 17:34 GMT
#4515
On June 20 2014 02:32 roundabound wrote:
RIP Côte d'Ivoire World Cup 2014

J/K I forgot they beat Japan
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 19:10 GMT
#4530
what's happening with ketomai?
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 19:38 GMT
#4540
I cracked up.

On June 20 2014 04:34 justanothertownie wrote:
All those people returning only when called out this game...


On June 20 2014 04:37 Chairman Ray wrote:
flip time soon?

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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 19:40 GMT
#4542
EWWWWWWWWW THAT WAS SO NASTY!
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 20:18 GMT
#4577
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 20:19 GMT
#4580
On June 20 2014 05:19 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: Chairman Ray

To infinity and beyond.

This x10000000000000000000000
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 20:20 GMT
#4582
Also, Ketomai counterwagon gogogog
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 20:41 GMT
#4598
GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

ALL HAIL URUGUAY
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 20:42 GMT
#4599
SUAREZ 4 LIFE
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 20:43 GMT
#4600
Also, Rooney's a lil bitch. Get him off the pitch
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June 19 2014 20:48 GMT
#4601
On June 20 2014 04:34 justanothertownie wrote:
All those people returning only when called out this game...

I spent like 45 minutes searching for this from my first game:

On February 21 2014 04:59 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 04:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 21 2014 04:35 IAmRobik wrote:
you guys brought it up first...he tries to say that he read SS wrong in that game, which is why he's giving him a free pass this game. And then he says he's going to go reread that game to see why he read him wrong. Then he comes back with the conclusion that he's willing to give him a break based off of the similarities between that game and this game, when that's an absolute fallacy and the game SS is playing here is 100% different from the one he played there just from the first couple of pages alone!
I addressed this:

On February 15 2014 03:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I was just saying that I read him scum early on in that game for reasons similiar to how I read him early this game. I am in no way saying that I think he's playing exactly like he played that game. All I said was I wanted to back off him a bit and give him a chance before jumping on him.


Do you have a bot that pings you every time "JJD" is written in the thread?


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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 20:52 GMT
#4603
RIP England World Cup 2014
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 20:58 GMT
#4608
Don't discount Costa Rica. They're going to roll Italy to clinch a playoff birth
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 21:02 GMT
#4609
Back to the game though: I really have no idea how to play late-game. I'm usually dead by d2 and I get bored of games late so I end up trolling a lot. I still really, really want to win this though, despite the mif/sandro/gumshoe bullshit.
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June 19 2014 21:05 GMT
#4611
who would you want to lynch VA? Top 3 choices in order.

Also, who would you never lynch this game?
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 21:12 GMT
#4614
On June 20 2014 06:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 06:04 VayneAuthority wrote:
chairman ray is gumshoe tier, this could honestly be a scum or town lynch there is no way to tell

no, his comments after the last flip is a big thing that differentiates him from gumshoe.

And his votes before the flip. and the vote before that. and the vote on d2.

He had a really good d1 though. In fact his push on me was the only legit thing he's done all game.
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 21:15 GMT
#4618
On June 20 2014 06:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
ritoky
exo
holyflare

no hesitation

i would not lynch marv, and thats it.

Marv riding pretty from that d1 lynch ^_^

I can get behind ritoky at some point. Not sure about exo...I remember thinking he was town on d1 for something he said. Lean town on HF

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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 21:16 GMT
#4619
Rainbows,

What do you think of marv?

Sincerely,

-Icannotreadyourmindanymore
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June 19 2014 21:18 GMT
#4620
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
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mafia prolly thought I hid my role within all there spoilers and opened them up
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June 19 2014 22:18 GMT
#4640
On June 20 2014 07:05 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
On June 20 2014 06:30 ExO_ wrote:
If we're not gonna go after chrom, then I think CR is a decent lynch. Suspected him since day 1.

##ChairmanRay

need you to play a bit more than you're playing atm buddy.


I am playing. I tried being super active and talking, and that didn't do anything. The people in charge are the ones making short posts spamming and voting all over the place. That seems to be effective this game, so I think I'll stick to this.

I'll continue to do what I can for town and to win, and I don't see anything else I could post that would help. Or do you want my advice on who I think is mafia and why, because let's face it last time I gave that nothing came of it in the slightest.

Yes. This. Who do you have as maf right now? Who do you have as town? Why? Which of these reads have changed as the game progressed?
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Niue881 Posts
June 19 2014 22:19 GMT
#4641
So I know why JAT was nk'd, but why yamato?
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June 19 2014 23:17 GMT
#4646
On June 20 2014 08:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 07:19 roundabound wrote:
So I know why JAT was nk'd, but why yamato?


The yam kill made absolutely no sense.

Do we have noob mafia players?

And the JAT kill, eh, still weird over people like HF, Marv, and you imo.

I'll take full credit for getting JAT killed. Pretty happy he was VT instead of a role
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June 19 2014 23:38 GMT
#4649
On June 20 2014 08:20 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 08:17 roundabound wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 20 2014 07:19 roundabound wrote:
So I know why JAT was nk'd, but why yamato?


The yam kill made absolutely no sense.

Do we have noob mafia players?

And the JAT kill, eh, still weird over people like HF, Marv, and you imo.

I'll take full credit for getting JAT killed. Pretty happy he was VT instead of a role


How did you get him killed?


+ Show Spoiler +
Did I miss something? >.>

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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 01:01 GMT
#4654
Lynch this guy.

Hes talking in circles.

Self-Flagellates too.

This game is solved once CR + Ketomai are gone.

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 03:39 GMT
#4657
On June 20 2014 12:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
##Vote: Tica

Sigh

....

Chairmanray pl0x

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 04:04 GMT
#4668
OPEN townie backpack
GRAB townie torch
SWITCH townie torch
ILLUMINATE OWS

~moc
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roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 08:52 GMT
#4681
Tica,

I could definitely lynch HF but thats cos I am down to lynch him in any game !

The q is why him over you?

~JJD
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 09:12 GMT
#4689
On June 20 2014 17:55 marvellosity wrote:
one notable thing in Tica's favour:

he was pushing hard for a Haru (town) lynch on a day when there was a wagon on mif (town) and yamato (town).

Only small possibility is if CR is mafia (the guy I wagoned in between like mif and yamato). Even then though I remember Tica pushing Haru pretty hard once I was wagoning yamato at the end of the day. Like he really wanted that lynch.

That's pretty good reason for Tica-town.

i thought tica was DP? If so, I think this is well within his range.

Haru was an easy lynch to campaign on, as Rainbows did a lot of the legwork.

If anything, a scum who knows mif & yam are town, prob dont want to be associated with promoting that mislynch.

~Banks chick
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 09:19 GMT
#4692
OK, so I get Tica is doing a filter dive of all live players (and I suppose some dead)

I want to know Tica position on CR.

Like... I am really surprised we only have 4 votes on CR, I thought this was clear cut.

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 09:35 GMT
#4699
I wish I was a gunsmith right

POW CR
POW Ketomai
POW SnB
POW Ritoky
POW Slam

GG

~moc
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roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 09:41 GMT
#4701
On June 20 2014 18:38 Holyflare wrote:
slam is town bro he wont die

wrote him last cos hes my outlier tip

damn near certain on CR, Ketomai, SnB

If we can't get town to go beyond 4 votes on CR; then im fine with the other 2.
Consolidation baby !

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 10:25 GMT
#4712
I cant understand a single thing Tica is espousing.

In excel, i think we call this a "circular reference".

How about, delete the above 3 or 4 posts and state:
"I am fucking tired; i do not have a set opinion, and am posting for the sake of posting because I can not sleep"

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 13:10 GMT
#4713
*yawn*

If u pricks don't want to play
At least vote cr ffs

Don't make my ass twitch

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 14:41 GMT
#4714
Slam,

I know you're nice and cozy in HF's protective arms, but he's not gonna be here forever, and I need your reads on the game.

Thank you in advance.

Sincerely,

The Man, the Myth, the Legend you chose not to meet in Cali
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 15:17 GMT
#4718
SnB,

That may be the laziest, most convoluted scumhunting I've EVER seen. That's not even a case against anyone. That's just a terrible assumption based off of people's laziness?

I don't understand how anyone can actually believe that people who are trying to solve the game are scum.

Like, you're sincere in your belief that if I were to sit here and not post and not give reads, I would be town? Are you out of your fucking mind? The reason that people who haven't posted a lot are scum is because they're not giving reads. it's because they're not doing anything to try to solve the game. Yourself included! Get outta here with your shitty ass illogical bullshit.
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roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 16:19 GMT
#4721
It's sooooo annoying how quiet it is today. You guys know we have to lynch correctly, right? This dilly dallying, not voting, not talking is not gonna help us get there.

I want people who haven't been participating and people who have laid low to give their reads and participate, especially town, otherwise we're gonna end up fucking up and that's absolutely unacceptable.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 16:19 GMT
#4722
Slam, I know you've been around posting in the game you're half-assed trying to host. The least you can do is come in here and give thoughts on the game other than "herpaderp slam is town"
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 16:47 GMT
#4723
COSTA RICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tica must be so happy
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 16:59 GMT
#4729
On June 21 2014 01:53 Rainbows wrote:
Round, you and I, swapping minds, I feel you, inside me.

Do you understand?

I want you to feel what i feel. Luckily, we have the same scumreads.

yes
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 16:59 GMT
#4731
On June 21 2014 01:53 Rainbows wrote:
We are both firebats.

no
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 17:01 GMT
#4733
who "scum slipped"? keto or Tica?
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 17:56 GMT
#4742
On June 21 2014 02:29 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 00:17 roundabound wrote:
SnB,

That may be the laziest, most convoluted scumhunting I've EVER seen. That's not even a case against anyone. That's just a terrible assumption based off of people's laziness?

I don't understand how anyone can actually believe that people who are trying to solve the game are scum.

Like, you're sincere in your belief that if I were to sit here and not post and not give reads, I would be town? Are you out of your fucking mind? The reason that people who haven't posted a lot are scum is because they're not giving reads. it's because they're not doing anything to try to solve the game. Yourself included! Get outta here with your shitty ass illogical bullshit.

No I'm saying that you (or holy flare or both) are scum because you have no scum reads among anyone who's been posting more than sinani. You're just rolling with a dressed up form of "low post = scum" when it's been clearly proven wrong already this game.


I wanna lynch the shit out of SnB for his recent posts. He's blatantly trying to push us away from lynching his scum partners at this point. He is calling towny people scum for playing towny and trying to clear scum based off of an illogical argument.

##vote SnB
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 18:13 GMT
#4748
On June 21 2014 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
generally speaking several people have pushed the fallacious argument "several lurkers have flipped town, so pushing lurkers is shown to be bad". Not a good argument. Realistically a much higher proportion of lurkers are going to be mafia now that we cleared out a bunch of town lurkers :/

Other people have thrown it out there and then backed up off of it. I don't recall SnB mentioning it before, and now he is building "a case" against people because of it. In fact, this is the only contribution he's had ALL GAME. Not only that, but he is probably just trying to piggy back the concept from the people who have posted about it previously, tryna re-inseminate the idea into peoples' minds..
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 18:17 GMT
#4750
On June 21 2014 03:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 02:56 roundabound wrote:
On June 21 2014 02:29 strongandbig wrote:
On June 21 2014 00:17 roundabound wrote:
SnB,

That may be the laziest, most convoluted scumhunting I've EVER seen. That's not even a case against anyone. That's just a terrible assumption based off of people's laziness?

I don't understand how anyone can actually believe that people who are trying to solve the game are scum.

Like, you're sincere in your belief that if I were to sit here and not post and not give reads, I would be town? Are you out of your fucking mind? The reason that people who haven't posted a lot are scum is because they're not giving reads. it's because they're not doing anything to try to solve the game. Yourself included! Get outta here with your shitty ass illogical bullshit.

No I'm saying that you (or holy flare or both) are scum because you have no scum reads among anyone who's been posting more than sinani. You're just rolling with a dressed up form of "low post = scum" when it's been clearly proven wrong already this game.


I wanna lynch the shit out of SnB for his recent posts. He's blatantly trying to push us away from lynching his scum partners at this point. He is calling towny people scum for playing towny and trying to clear scum based off of an illogical argument.

##vote SnB

this only makes sense if you flip the people you say he's defending and they flip mafia. you don't lynch someone for defending unflipped, potential mafia -.-

We can lynch them too! I've been championing CR all day.

##unvote SnB
##vote CR

Like, I really don't care. We have to kill of people we think are scum. I think both of them are scum. I'm still kinda considering the fact that SnB might be a maf PR based off of how easily the rally onto our first lynch went, which might lean me towards lynching him over the others, but whatever. Scum is scum is scum.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 18:22 GMT
#4752
On June 21 2014 03:20 Amiko wrote:
Vote Count - Day 4:


Ketomai (1): rainbows
TicaTica (1): 27ninjabunnies
StrongandBig (0): roundabound
ritoky (1): VayneAuthority

These need to be consolidated at some point, either onto CR or one of the other 4.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 20:22 GMT
#4775
And the award for most maf/maf interaction of all time gooooessss toooooooo:

RITOKY AND CHROM. CONGRATULATIONS! YOU WIN A BIG FAT SPOT ON THE KILL THEM NOW LIST
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 20:31 GMT
#4781
Ritoky, if your gonna claim, claim.
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 20:55 GMT
#4825
On June 21 2014 05:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 05:01 marvellosity wrote:
On June 20 2014 04:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
HF getting it the last few minutes of the night!!!!
GJ buddy!

Also, TICA, definitely on the list!!!! Almost forgot about that!

And incase I die in the night, Ritoky, Batsnacks, Slam, Tica, VA, Keto, and (JAT cause I still don't want to let him slide for sheeping).

Kaykay.

you seem more and more like mafia to me, bunnies.

##Vote: ninjabunnies

I thought bunnies was townier than chrom, but I hate that my read is probably wrong if ritoky is cop womp womp
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 20:57 GMT
#4827
we might as well just mass claim at this point.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 21:02 GMT
#4841
I refuse to play with ritoky moving forward. Like, never ever ever playing with him again. idgaf about this game anymore. Peace
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 21:07 GMT
#4855
On June 21 2014 06:05 ritoky wrote:
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On June 21 2014 06:02 marvellosity wrote:
oh god it's Chrome because he asked Chrome to make a case on bunnies.

oh well.

15 mins ritoky, don't let me down.


could you tell me why it is such a big deal that someone basically just tjsalt ragequit? i don't think that wanting the 2 people who have opposite alignments to give reads before i give out the alignments is the worst play ever. so please explain it to me.

CAUSE IF YOU WANTED THEM TO FUCKING GIVE THEIR READS AND BE SNEAKY ABOUT IT, YOU WOULD HAVE DONE IT BEFORE YOU OUTED THAT YOU HAVE OPPOSING CHECKS ON TWO PEOPLE AS ROLE COP. INSTEAD YOU CLAIMED AND THEN THEY KNOW THEY'RE FUCKED IF YOU'RE THE COP. LIKE STOP BEING FUCKING DUMB AND JUST GIVE US THE FUCKING CHECKS. YOU'RE WASTING TIME AT THIS POINT AND I'M REALLY FUCKING ANNOYED
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 21:13 GMT
#4863
On June 21 2014 06:11 ritoky wrote:
w/e i honestly think you guys are being dicks about it

chrom is town, vote away

Was this so fucking hard? You were gonna get absolutely 0 information.

##vote nb27

That kinda pisses me off too. I really though bunnies was town. fuck fuck fuck.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 21:14 GMT
#4864
On June 21 2014 06:13 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: ninjabunnies

roundabound: don't you remember what I said in our fun about bunnies? ^^

w/e dude. I really thought she was town and came out very towny and didn't think she would nk banks right after she joined the game for ogi reasons.
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 21:17 GMT
#4869
The play can work if you don't out as cop. The play doesn't work after you out. It's not a difficult concept
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 21:18 GMT
#4872
I FOS everyone that insta-assumed it was bunnies btw. Knowing that bunnies is the red check before he outed it is fucking scummy mc scummerson
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 21:29 GMT
#4882
Reasons not to believe ritoky: he pretty much spammed to kill chrom for the entirety of the game and he only mentioned lynching bunnies once and it was half assed. I only did a search of "bunnies" in his filter though, so I might be wrong.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 21:38 GMT
#4896
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL OMG THIS IS GLORIOUS. I HAVE TO LEAVE WORK BUT I CAN'T. ZOMG GLUED TO SEAT
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 21:38 GMT
#4899
##unvote nb27
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 22:11 GMT
#4973
On June 21 2014 07:07 ExO_ wrote:
Chrome being Godfather is the only way ritoky would be correct and have everything still make sense.

If Chrome is GF, he accepts the green check and lives off of it for as long as possible. Why the fuck would he want to claim miller? That's like the dumbest play of all time.
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 22:18 GMT
#4980
At least he didn't give the checks right away so that he got a reaction test out of Chrome...amirite?
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 03:25 GMT
#5087
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 04:21 GMT
#5109
On June 21 2014 12:36 ritoky wrote:
question for anyone and everyone who wants to answer: when i flip VT, who do you think looked the worst amidst all of this? why?

if you don't believe i am VT, then replace "when i flip" with "in the world that i flip"

SnB...but he's prolly maf either way
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 04:28 GMT
#5112
On June 21 2014 10:10 TicaTica wrote:
First off:
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On June 19 2014 03:35 ritoky wrote:
On June 19 2014 03:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 19 2014 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 19 2014 03:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I think ritoky is prob more maf than MIF is, tho im down with both.

MIF atleast has given thoughts, even if they show up at moments they are being pressured.

I would like you to prove this with examples. And I want you to tell me your opinion on those thoughts.


Do you know how hard that is from a phone.

Read ritokys filter- its like 2 pages. He has a argument with another player- and then gives two posts of reads and afks again

MIF, well he questions and talks about more people imo, though im not impressed with the fact my questions still havent been answered


what questions?

marv/JAT who should i vote on? MiF?

This makes no sense. Two days earlier he was all in on Chrome, Ket, Sinani and CR. Does he not care about any of those reads? He doesn't bother pushing them whatsoever.


Plus he had a mystically awful reason for a townread on me previously for me saying King wasn't a bad lynch but I wasn't going to vote for it but Marv was going to get his lynch regardless.

That earlier stuff aside...
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 05:21 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 05:19 Chromatically wrote:
On June 21 2014 05:16 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 05:14 Chromatically wrote:
On June 21 2014 05:13 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 05:09 Chromatically wrote:
FINALLY FREE


how would you feel if i told you that you were town?

I would feel very confused and would require an explanation.


how would you feel if i told you that i tunneled you cuz i town read you day 1 and wanted us both to stay alive?

...is that what you're saying you actually did? Or are we still talking hypothetically?


how would you feel if i told you that there's an alive green and an alive red in this game right now and you're one of them?

This is not a post of a player who's planning to red check Ninja bunnies and green check Chrome. You don't plan to ask your green check what they think of your redcheck. You ask the other way around and you ask your redcheck about other people. On top of that you don't claim a check prior to inquiring on people. Like if this is a planned "reaction check " from a townie, talking about that check fake or not completely invalidates any point in asking the people.

Next, he wants to pit his "red check" against his "green check" and posts this.


Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 05:43 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
when did you make these checks? where is your 3rd check?


chrom 1st
27nb 2nd (sub with no posts or voting record)
3rd check died last night.

If he's town and fake claiming, what does he think he plans to gain from this? Any townie goes "well I'm town so other guy is scum, cool?" If he hits GF, they still react that way because they 'know" it's fake (other person isn't mafia) or they bus their partner like any sane being and proceed on happy to be green checked.

I can't think of any world where this plan actually works. The mafia in a town/mafia split starts pointing at the townie like any sane being and hopes that the cop is fake or that they have more sway/cred than him.

Plus this plan is ridiculously convoluted and outlandish. I've seen enough crazy shit in my day, but this is too far out in left field. It's more likely that this is a scum we who is trying to think of a wacky town gambit more than actual town gambit.

On top of this, look how ritoky responds to the pressure in thread. People want to know who the red check was. Marv's getting pissed about lynching town after a redcheck has happened and the cop didn't claim.

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On June 21 2014 05:48 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 05:46 marvellosity wrote:
ritoky why did you let us kill town yesterday?


because people have been setting up an easy low hanging fruit ML on me for days now, and every indication from you has been that our 1 protective role is a jailkeeper, not a straight doctor; i was in no threat of dying and wanted 1 more check. i also wanted you alive as long as possible, if i come out yesterday you die or i die.

This response is clear. This is no longer a reaction test of Chrome or NB. He hasn't put pressure on either of them with this a AND he hasn't figured out who he thinks is the easier target to fake claim on. The point of what he's doing isn't get a reaction; or else he'd make sure chrome/NB is around. It becomes obvious that he has to pick a choice to redcheck or he gets lynched. He decided to go with NB.

In general scum under pressure finger their partner more than they do town, because it's far far easier to sound good/right/towny/believable that way. I'm pretty sure that's the case here too. Ritoky has previously wholly ignored NB. NB has been pushing against ritoky but finding other people to land on.

It's a really weird reaction.

I agree with this post a lot, but tica made 2 slips here.

1)
Plus this plan is ridiculously convoluted and outlandish. I've seen enough crazy shit in my day, but this is too far out in left field. It's more likely that this is a scum we who is trying to think of a wacky town gambit more than actual town gambit.


This part of the post was 100% edited. Look at the bold. He was going to say one thing and then ended up typing something else. Editing posts is scummy.

fuck. i read this post and noticed something earlier but i'm a tad inebriated so i forget what it is. I'll try to read it again after posting this...maybe it was in another post. fuck. i'll be back with another point against tica.
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 05:05 GMT
#5127
batsnacks. your reads. they suck. please revise them immediately. not as bad as SnB, but bad nevertheless
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 05:07 GMT
#5130
keto prolly busing at this point. Unless ritoky is town. in which case keto is prolly just jumping on the easy mislynch.

conclusion: keto maf
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 05:09 GMT
#5133
On June 21 2014 14:08 batsnacks wrote:
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On June 21 2014 14:05 roundabound wrote:
batsnacks. your reads. they suck. please revise them immediately. not as bad as SnB, but bad nevertheless


My reads don't suck they're just different; "different" is what we need.

leading us away from mafia is not what we need
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 05:10 GMT
#5134
On June 21 2014 14:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 14:07 roundabound wrote:
keto prolly busing at this point. Unless ritoky is town. in which case keto is prolly just jumping on the easy mislynch.

conclusion: keto maf


i really hope this post is a joke post.

heart attack
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 10:22 GMT
#5233
OK. so i am flying tomorrow and will be internetless for about 20 to 30hrs.
Hence why I signed up for a hydra.

This is my last words to the thread this cycle.

I am the parity cop.

N1 I checked Mocsta
N2 I checked Robik
N3 I forgot to check

D3 the host returned: SAME

~moc
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 19:37 GMT
#5298
On June 22 2014 04:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
if i have to hear anything about how ritoky played this great as mafia at post game im going to slit some one's throat metaphorically

I'll do it literally. WTF happened while I was gone?
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 19:38 GMT
#5299
Marv, what the shit are you doing?
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 19:40 GMT
#5302
Where the fuck are the mods? I need to see a vote count to see what type of disaster zone we just stepped into
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 19:45 GMT
#5307
There are scummy people on all 3 wagons. Jesus fuck.

Who led the charge onto Keto over Ritoky? Who decided that bunnies was a good lynch after ritoky retardacted......i think i just misspelled retracted.

And why did we forget about CR all of a sudden?
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roundabound
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 19:48 GMT
#5309
##vote ritoky
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 19:53 GMT
#5311
I don't know if I would retract marv = town read...marv is pretty confirmed town, but, you, VA, are skyrocketing up my town totem
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 19:59 GMT
#5319
On June 22 2014 04:57 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 22 2014 04:38 roundabound wrote:
Marv, what the shit are you doing?

voting for someone i think has a good shot of being mafia instead of the dude i think is town?

making a huge blunder in a fake claim and then retracting when you're busted does not make you town. it makes you fucking shit mafia. It also makes me think that there are 5 mafia alive, because if they get a mislynch on bunnies there it would leave us in a mylo or very very near mylo scenario.
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Niue881 Posts
June 21 2014 20:02 GMT
#5326
we still have 6 PRs? We know 2 of them? How many vanillas are left and how many maf?
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Niue881 Posts
June 22 2014 00:44 GMT
#5345
Ripperino me. Or JK me. Or medic save me. Or wifom and don't. IDK what the right strat is but yeah. What Rainbows said.
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Niue881 Posts
June 22 2014 00:45 GMT
#5346
Will not reveal what he and the other person claimed to me as their role, but I made it pretty obvious who the other person was and I told the other person what rainbows claimed, just in case he decides to fake it later.
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June 22 2014 00:50 GMT
#5348
On June 22 2014 09:47 Holyflare wrote:
Why would you claim and let tracker potentially die??

huh?
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Niue881 Posts
June 22 2014 00:55 GMT
#5350
What did you want me to do? I just came back to the computer from watching the matches and I saw rainbows' post so I just confirmed that it's true.
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 13:50 GMT
#5539
This blows. Just saw the nightkills results. That means they either have a vigi or 501st sgt just used his shot. Unless another town vigi wants to claim the shot on exo.

Town roles we know:

plammar: mason
koshi: vigi
Rainbows: mason
Marv: role cop
exo: medic
Chrom: tracker

That leaves 2 more. Will catch up with the thread now to see what else happened.

I don't know how explicit what me and rainbows were doing in the thread was, but it's probably more likely that an experienced mafia picked up on the role swap...unless everyone says that it was blatantly obvious.
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 13:51 GMT
#5540
On June 23 2014 05:09 sinani206 wrote:
I'm the tracker.
Chrom visited rainbows.

##Vote: chromatically

If you are tracker, you should have waited for rainbows to claim who he visited in case he was fake.

this makes 7 blues
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 13:55 GMT
#5541
The points on pg 271 make a lot of sense. No reason to doubt sinani's claim. That would be a REALLY REALLY difficult guess.
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 14:26 GMT
#5547
On June 23 2014 23:24 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 22:50 roundabound wrote:
This blows. Just saw the nightkills results. That means they either have a vigi or 501st sgt just used his shot. Unless another town vigi wants to claim the shot on exo.

Town roles we know:

plammar: mason
koshi: vigi
Rainbows: mason
Marv: role cop
exo: medic
Chrom: tracker

That leaves 2 more. Will catch up with the thread now to see what else happened.

I don't know how explicit what me and rainbows were doing in the thread was, but it's probably more likely that an experienced mafia picked up on the role swap...unless everyone says that it was blatantly obvious.


Why is rainbows' claim that you are mason not on this list

Cause I'm not mason.
We discussed role swapping as a possibility in our QT and on multiple occasions we discussed it in the thread. He said something along the lines of swapping minds or stepping in his shoes and "i think it's time" and then he claimed that I'm mason.
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 14:26 GMT
#5548
On June 23 2014 23:19 strongandbig wrote:
Wait nvm exo never actually claimed medic like round said be did

exo is dead medic?
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June 23 2014 14:33 GMT
#5551
On June 23 2014 23:29 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 23:26 roundabound wrote:
On June 23 2014 23:24 strongandbig wrote:
On June 23 2014 22:50 roundabound wrote:
This blows. Just saw the nightkills results. That means they either have a vigi or 501st sgt just used his shot. Unless another town vigi wants to claim the shot on exo.

Town roles we know:

plammar: mason
koshi: vigi
Rainbows: mason
Marv: role cop
exo: medic
Chrom: tracker

That leaves 2 more. Will catch up with the thread now to see what else happened.

I don't know how explicit what me and rainbows were doing in the thread was, but it's probably more likely that an experienced mafia picked up on the role swap...unless everyone says that it was blatantly obvious.


Why is rainbows' claim that you are mason not on this list

Cause I'm not mason.
We discussed role swapping as a possibility in our QT and on multiple occasions we discussed it in the thread. He said something along the lines of swapping minds or stepping in his shoes and "i think it's time" and then he claimed that I'm mason.


Oh.

So when he said you are "100% town" he meant based on his reads not on roles?

he was softing that he could confirm me based off of the fact that we were setting up a role swap in which i claim mason and he claims VT.

The only problem is that he blew his load too early and I think made it too obvious what we were doing instead of waiting for today when we were set to mass-claim.

Updating:

1-plammar: mason
2-koshi: vigi
3-Rainbows: mason
4-Marv: role cop
5-exo: medic
6-Chrom: tracker
7-sinani: tracker
8-slam: vet
9-unknown: jk

so 6,7, or 8 is a lie. Sinani is most likely tracker based off of the fact that chrom confirmed the visit to rainbows.

so one of chrom or slam is lying....or marv was lying about being jk'd in the hopes of getting extra checks (highly unlikely).

Not sure if we should lynch out of the two of them or lynch into the VTs.
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 14:36 GMT
#5553
On June 23 2014 23:35 strongandbig wrote:
Unless one of them is actually the jailkeeper and is fakeclaiming a different blue role to fuck with us, which would be retarded but believable given previous fakeclaims in this game...

I didn't consider this, but yeah. that's also fathomable.
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 15:17 GMT
#5557
ObiWanShinobi - VT
ritoky - VT
Erandorr replaced by 27ninjabunnies - VT
Chairman Ray - VT
roundabound (Mocsta/IAmRobik Hydra) - VT
strongandbig - VT
Holyflare - VT
batsnacks - VT
VayneAuthority - VT



Chromatically - TRACKER
sinani206 - TRACKER
Alakaslam - VET


1 of the VTs will be claiming JK (i'm assuming at some point). There are 9VTs and 4 mafia within them and 1 blue. There are 3 blue claims with 1 mafia within them.
I think that it is unlikely that sinani is fake, leaving slam or chrom. I don't see motivation for EITHER OF THEM to fake claim. So unless there is no JK (unlikely) or one of them is actually JK (maybe?), we are 50-50 to hit mafia here
If we lynch out of VTs (i'm pretty sure that most people have me as town by this point either way), we also have a 50-50 chance to lynch scum. Not sure what our best avenue is, but I'm leaning towards lynching out of VT because mislynching a blue would be way more catastrophic.


from town to scum (out of VTs):
roundabound
Holyflare - VT
ObiWanShinobi - VT
Erandorr replaced by 27ninjabunnies - VT

batsnacks - VT
strongandbig - VT
VayneAuthority - VT

Chairman Ray - VT
ritoky - VT

I will say that if we have a JK and the JK is not Slam (that's the only one out of the claimed blues that would make a smidgen of sense), then I am pretty sure who it is and will be highly skeptical of anyone but that persons claim.


This list might be completely fucked though cause of the night kills...just how i'm reading the game at this point.
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 15:44 GMT
#5560
If slam is JK, then you and chrom could both be trackers and all 3 of you could be town.
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 16:41 GMT
#5564
SnB, that world involved Bunnies being scum, and I don't live in that world.
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 17:34 GMT
#5576
On June 23 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote:
Ok suppose chrom is town tracker and sinani is scum - the only way sinani guesses correctly who chrom visited is by random chance. He knows chrom was tracker so he would visit someone, but there was a very small chance he guesses correctly given that there's more than ten players still left. I'm comfortable saying sinani is actually tracker.

Then for chrom to have visited rainbows, he either would have to be actual tracker, or sergeant using his KP or roleblock.

The thing is, if chrome's scum why would be claim miller to the ritocky check? He would know that ritocky is fakeclaiming but why give up the green check? Answer: he would do this if ninja bunnies was also scum. He would have to do it, otherwise we lynch bunnies, get a red result, then ritocky reveals the fakeclaim and chrom doesn't even get the green check.

This makes way more sense as a justification for a fakeclaim than what slam did btw. In a game with a known number of blue roles, there's literally no reason for slam to fakeclaim when he did.

So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting mafia between slam and chrom, and I think there was way more scum motivation for chrom's fakeclaim than for slam's.

##vote: chromatically

Lol...
If you believe Sinani, then chrome is worth a vote, & so is Bunnies.

Ironically,
if you believe Sinani -- which you do.... then Bunnies is not worth a vote.

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 18:19 GMT
#5582
On June 24 2014 02:34 27ninjabunnies wrote:
roundabound- VT/ mason switch claim (Very odd that rainbows dies the night that their "switch" happened)
Holyflare - VT

ObiWanShinobi - VT
Erandorr replaced by 27ninjabunnies - VT
SLAM- Vet?

batsnacks - VT
strongandbig - VT
VayneAuthority - VT
Sinani-Tracker
Chairman Ray - VT
ritoky - VT
Chrom- tracker

So until we get a JK claim, I'm refusing to believe we have a JK. Marv could have easily faked getting jailed to get more checks. Why he didn't out his checks if there is no jk, well thats another question.

So above I bolded green who we should not lynch today. The rest are up for grabs.
Even though I am super SUPER paranoid that round is mafia this game, for the fact alone that rainbows died the same night he claimed that round was mason, was super weird, I'm willing to leave him alone for another day.

Holyflare has been trying to figure this out and not solely complaining on how this game has gone to shit.

I am town, and I'm not lynching the last 3 blue claims unless we get counterclaims.

So that leaves 6 people left to lynch out of, and 5 are mafia from my perspective.

Omg, guess who are in those 6?! PEOPLE IVE BEEN ON ALL GAME!

Seriously, I should be listened to more.

I got masoned n2. I would have killed him then instead of the 10+ VTs that were killed instead. -.-
Plus, I told him to mason marv the next day and checked with the mod multiple times to make sure that the mason would go through in case marv was jk'd or rb'd (i expressed this in thread as well).
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 19:08 GMT
#5587
On June 24 2014 04:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 04:00 strongandbig wrote:
On June 24 2014 02:34 roundabound wrote:
On June 23 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote:
Ok suppose chrom is town tracker and sinani is scum - the only way sinani guesses correctly who chrom visited is by random chance. He knows chrom was tracker so he would visit someone, but there was a very small chance he guesses correctly given that there's more than ten players still left. I'm comfortable saying sinani is actually tracker.

Then for chrom to have visited rainbows, he either would have to be actual tracker, or sergeant using his KP or roleblock.

The thing is, if chrome's scum why would be claim miller to the ritocky check? He would know that ritocky is fakeclaiming but why give up the green check? Answer: he would do this if ninja bunnies was also scum. He would have to do it, otherwise we lynch bunnies, get a red result, then ritocky reveals the fakeclaim and chrom doesn't even get the green check.

This makes way more sense as a justification for a fakeclaim than what slam did btw. In a game with a known number of blue roles, there's literally no reason for slam to fakeclaim when he did.

So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting mafia between slam and chrom, and I think there was way more scum motivation for chrom's fakeclaim than for slam's.

##vote: chromatically

Lol...
If you believe Sinani, then chrome is worth a vote, & so is Bunnies.

Ironically,
if you believe Sinani -- which you do.... then Bunnies is not worth a vote.

~moc

why? tracking someone doesn't clear them, kp can't be tracked


go vote bunnies and stop voting in the blue claims.

Why you no wanna kill confirmed maf ritoky?
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 19:11 GMT
#5588
On June 24 2014 04:00 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 02:34 roundabound wrote:
On June 23 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote:
Ok suppose chrom is town tracker and sinani is scum - the only way sinani guesses correctly who chrom visited is by random chance. He knows chrom was tracker so he would visit someone, but there was a very small chance he guesses correctly given that there's more than ten players still left. I'm comfortable saying sinani is actually tracker.

Then for chrom to have visited rainbows, he either would have to be actual tracker, or sergeant using his KP or roleblock.

The thing is, if chrome's scum why would be claim miller to the ritocky check? He would know that ritocky is fakeclaiming but why give up the green check? Answer: he would do this if ninja bunnies was also scum. He would have to do it, otherwise we lynch bunnies, get a red result, then ritocky reveals the fakeclaim and chrom doesn't even get the green check.

This makes way more sense as a justification for a fakeclaim than what slam did btw. In a game with a known number of blue roles, there's literally no reason for slam to fakeclaim when he did.

So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting mafia between slam and chrom, and I think there was way more scum motivation for chrom's fakeclaim than for slam's.

##vote: chromatically

Lol...
If you believe Sinani, then chrome is worth a vote, & so is Bunnies.

Ironically,
if you believe Sinani -- which you do.... then Bunnies is not worth a vote.

~moc

why? tracking someone doesn't clear them, kp can't be tracked

Heres the funny thing though SnB.

Whether Chrome *IS* or *IS NOT* scum leads to Bunnies being scum in your world.

Why hinge the vote on Chrom, and not default to Bunnies??

Given this is potentially MYLO, the play mind-boggles me.

It does not matter whether Chrom is, or is not a blue.
What does matter is *hitting* scum.
A 50/50 on Chrom is not the smart play for town according to your logic.

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 19:14 GMT
#5590
On June 24 2014 04:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 04:08 roundabound wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:00 strongandbig wrote:
On June 24 2014 02:34 roundabound wrote:
On June 23 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote:
Ok suppose chrom is town tracker and sinani is scum - the only way sinani guesses correctly who chrom visited is by random chance. He knows chrom was tracker so he would visit someone, but there was a very small chance he guesses correctly given that there's more than ten players still left. I'm comfortable saying sinani is actually tracker.

Then for chrom to have visited rainbows, he either would have to be actual tracker, or sergeant using his KP or roleblock.

The thing is, if chrome's scum why would be claim miller to the ritocky check? He would know that ritocky is fakeclaiming but why give up the green check? Answer: he would do this if ninja bunnies was also scum. He would have to do it, otherwise we lynch bunnies, get a red result, then ritocky reveals the fakeclaim and chrom doesn't even get the green check.

This makes way more sense as a justification for a fakeclaim than what slam did btw. In a game with a known number of blue roles, there's literally no reason for slam to fakeclaim when he did.

So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting mafia between slam and chrom, and I think there was way more scum motivation for chrom's fakeclaim than for slam's.

##vote: chromatically

Lol...
If you believe Sinani, then chrome is worth a vote, & so is Bunnies.

Ironically,
if you believe Sinani -- which you do.... then Bunnies is not worth a vote.

~moc

why? tracking someone doesn't clear them, kp can't be tracked


go vote bunnies and stop voting in the blue claims.

Why you no wanna kill confirmed maf ritoky?


when was he confirmed? i didnt see anything that confirmed him.

Step 1: claim cop
Step 2: get fucked
Step 3: claim vt
Step 4: AtM (ass-to-mouth...i'm gonna use this to refer to AtE from now on)
Step 5: AFK

AKA Scum claim
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 19:23 GMT
#5592
As far as I know, what you're saying is wrong. He usually calls bunnies mafia and pushes that read strongly. He has never claimed cop as VT.
I refuse to take CR's word for anything cause he's a scum read of mine
ignoring that, the reason those things are alignment indicative is that VT has no reason to make the play the way he did, whereas there are reasons to make the play as mafia.

Ritokys maf team would be something like: CR, SnB, Batsnacks? VA? Slam?
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 19:24 GMT
#5593
Prolly not VA
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 19:46 GMT
#5600
On June 24 2014 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.

the second scenario isnt even plausible.

and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything.

It's tough for me to convince anyone that someone is mafia. It's hard to convince people of someone being town. I have reasons to believe that the people atop my town list are town. That's why I'm cool with lynching other people. You asked me for a specific scenario. I don't really make mafia teams. I have people who I think are town and I'm willing to lynch the rest. That's just how I play. This game it's been very difficult to put people into my town list, and the people who I have had in my town list are dying.
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#5607
On June 24 2014 04:59 ritoky wrote:
oh and for those who claim that me making kush green is a slip. i am sorry, but i am not as good as you, and i live in simple worlds. i don't really have the skill, nor did i even know it was possible, nor would i expect others to have to skill to anticipate their mafia partner being vigi shot and janitor them. just seems like a ridiculously convoluted play that someone would make up to try to confuse other players (the goal of mafia).

huh?
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 20:03 GMT
#5608
Like, he's clearly just making shit up and posting random tidbits cause he has nothing to fucking contribute. He's either the dumbest town to ever play on TL* or he's mafia.




*I was his coach in his first newbie game. He's not the dumbest town to play on TL.
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 20:13 GMT
#5614
On June 24 2014 05:07 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 05:03 roundabound wrote:
Like, he's clearly just making shit up and posting random tidbits cause he has nothing to fucking contribute. He's either the dumbest town to ever play on TL* or he's mafia.




*I was his coach in his first newbie game. He's not the dumbest town to play on TL.


what did i make up? from my understanding now you have to submit who you're janitoring in the night phase.

so in order to janitor a mafia teammate, you would have to anticipate them dying in the night, and pre-emptively janitor them.

it's not like the mod sends you a list of people dying after they have been killed and you get to pick one. at least in the process the mod described.

1) Koshi said who he was shooting
2) You don't have to be the one submitting things to the mods
3) I don't see why this makes kush mafia or town
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 20:22 GMT
#5620
On June 24 2014 05:21 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 05:20 ritoky wrote:
On June 24 2014 05:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 24 2014 05:15 ritoky wrote:
well that post messed up lol


The five people are

Me- Vanilla Town
VA- on my mafia scum list
Chrom- Tracker Claim
Sinani- Tracker claim
Holyflare- top town read outside of claims


So that's 4 town, and 1 possible mafia bus from my pov.


i agree that you and holyflare are aligned, you have both been pushing lynches on lurkers all game.


yeah that makes them the same for sure i agree 100%

I too agree that they are both town.
A+ analysis
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Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 21:23 GMT
#5626
VA is doing his darndest to win my heart
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Niue881 Posts
June 24 2014 04:08 GMT
#5645
Yeah. I called out cava ^_^
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Niue881 Posts
June 24 2014 04:17 GMT
#5648
wow,

only played with cava once but I expected a bit more from him....

sigh.

I think Ritoky is the right lynch. Theres a lot of questionable characters trying to drive an alternative lynch -- typically a sure sign that this is a lynch mafia do not want to proceed with.

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 24 2014 04:36 GMT
#5654
On June 24 2014 13:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 13:17 roundabound wrote:
wow,

only played with cava once but I expected a bit more from him....

sigh.

I think Ritoky is the right lynch. Theres a lot of questionable characters trying to drive an alternative lynch -- typically a sure sign that this is a lynch mafia do not want to proceed with.

~moc


actually, wait a fucking second.

why is it that holyflare drives the kush wagon, kush winds up janitor'd, and absolutely nothing is wrong with that.

like theres a big plot hole in your theory that youve ignored almost all game, in yet ritoky is correct because other people are voting other people? wat

why are you rehashing this as an argument to drive the thread from ritoky?

Koshi claimed to kill Kush. Regardless of alignment, the janitor usage was a strong play from mafia.
Trying to read anything further into this a futile effort to grasp at straws.

Again, your efforts represent the EXACT sequence of thought I acknowledged above.
Which is again, why Ritoky is the lynch for today

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 24 2014 05:19 GMT
#5659
On June 24 2014 14:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
ill probably argue about the ritoky lynch at some point tomorrow, but i doubt itll do much good. hes dead, with or without my input.

Is this a slip yo?

Its potentially MYLO, what you talking about "at some point tomorrow"

~moc
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Niue881 Posts
June 24 2014 14:04 GMT
#5666
On June 24 2014 14:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
you know exactly what im thinking because youve been in those games with me and you know what im looking for when i see you play.

you said my meta was bad in cell 2, and you were town. you were actively pushing people to read you via meta in golden sun and you were mafia.

the only reason you would actively need to hide behind a meta read you know doesnt hold water anymore is complete nonsense.

Ironic coming from the person hiding behind a smurf in order to not get meta read

Anyway. My work here is done. If we lynch anyone but ##vote ritoky or CR (who was wrong but kinda towny in his last post) this day will have been a huge failure.

I'll be back at some points during the day, but have a lot of work. I'll prolly check in more than I intend to to make sure there's no straying from the plan
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Niue881 Posts
June 24 2014 14:45 GMT
#5670
If you lynch bunnies over ritoky I'm going to lose my fucking shit.
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Niue881 Posts
June 24 2014 15:20 GMT
#5672
Knowing that's cava makes me think he's on a scum team where someone is writing his posts for him. His style also changed drastically from the beginning of the game to now. He was very articulate and logical to begin the game, but he's gotten all loopy lately and has been blurting some shit out that doesn't align with how he played or spoke in the early game.
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Niue881 Posts
June 24 2014 16:56 GMT
#5679
On June 25 2014 01:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 23:04 roundabound wrote:
On June 24 2014 14:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
you know exactly what im thinking because youve been in those games with me and you know what im looking for when i see you play.

you said my meta was bad in cell 2, and you were town. you were actively pushing people to read you via meta in golden sun and you were mafia.

the only reason you would actively need to hide behind a meta read you know doesnt hold water anymore is complete nonsense.

Ironic coming from the person hiding behind a smurf in order to not get meta read

Anyway. My work here is done. If we lynch anyone but ##vote ritoky or CR (who was wrong but kinda towny in his last post) this day will have been a huge failure.

I'll be back at some points during the day, but have a lot of work. I'll prolly check in more than I intend to to make sure there's no straying from the plan


this would make sense if i had a meta that people could use to read me.

ive never rolled scum so nobody knows the difference regardless. i just thought itd be fun to smurf. -.-;

yeah well. You have a town meta. It's to post recklessly and be very aloof. This is not what I saw from you at the beginning if the game. I saw someone with a logical progression of thought. Recently, you reverted back to posting like an idiot and pushing for random people. It makes me think that someone was guiding you earlier in the game and now you lost that crutch. I don't know what to make of it. I guess that's a discussion for another day/post game.
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Niue881 Posts
June 24 2014 18:15 GMT
#5688
On June 25 2014 03:11 ritoky wrote:
voting on holyflare, because imo he has done nothing for town and is probably the most sure-fired mafia lynch.

wanted to push MLs on lurkers, complained all game long and did nothing about it, and earlier in this phase he made a post asking others to present cases on players to him; he didn't even bother trying to find scum. this guy is 1000% mafia.

i like CR's post, i disagree on a little bit of it, but it has the right direction.

anywayz, if you're town and you're voting on me. you're a donkey and about to lose.

WAIT WHAT? You've been calling bunnies scum and her reaction scummy and she's you're #1 mafia of all time and she has 2 votes, which is closer than anyone else and you're gonna try to start a wagon on HF?

Man, maybe HF is scum.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
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Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 24 2014 20:08 GMT
#5735
On June 25 2014 05:05 ritoky wrote:
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gg

This is a fucking accurate depiction of you. THIS IS YOUR FUCKING FAULT.

Why hasn't host ended game yet? this is fucking dumb.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 24 2014 20:39 GMT
#5757
Fuck this. I'm gonna live in a world now that kush was maf. Otherwise the game is impossible to fucking win.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 24 2014 20:48 GMT
#5759
ritoky,

you're an idiot. please never do that ever again.

sincerely,

everyone but mafia





there has to be mafia on that ritoky vote. brb
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 24 2014 20:57 GMT
#5761
So HF is prolly scum, and the people voting him are prolly town (maybe 1 scum snuck in there). Unless both HF and ritoky are town in which case idk wtf is going on.

CR once again has a vote that's not on a wagon that matters.

Slam is claimed bluie

2 blues + me + bunnies on ritoky, so HF/VA/ posssssibly chrom scum out of those voters.
if hf town, then that would leave chrom/VA
if hf town, snb/cavalinho shady
if hf scum, batsnacks, snb, cava all top town, unless maybe cava maf thinking his voice can't push over the lynch away from ritoky.

voting patterns were really weird
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 24 2014 21:02 GMT
#5764
i will be posting excerpts from my QT with rainbows tonight. I can't quote them and I can't provide timestamps, but i'll do whatever shady stuff I can to get you guys the information I have from confirmed town and show you where his mind was at and where ours (mine and moc's) was at as well
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 02:00 GMT
#5783
On June 25 2014 10:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
If there is an equal amount of mafia and town members, the game continues. The side which reaches X votes first wins the lynch, as per the standard voting rules. I won't offer any ideas in the name of neutrality, but essentially it will be a lightning voting contest and victory for both sides is possible.

It'll be a nice turbo round to make this game go out with a bang and not a whimper.

If such a thing happens and there is a tie, we will need you to lock in your votes. That is, all 8-10 of you must PM all three of us with your final vote for the day, and any changes after that will not be considered. This is in case the action is resolved in the first few hours so we don't have to wait out the full 48. Once ALL 8-10 votes are in, the day will be resolved. Again, this is only in case of a 4-4 or 5-5 tie.

Could you please tell us in advance who the mafia are so that we can get our vote in before they do?

Thanks!

Forever yours,

-Robik
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 03:30 GMT
#5792
On June 25 2014 12:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
alright change of plans, jailkeeper claims so we can confirm chromatically is mafia right now and all agree to vote him asap.

i was thinking about this. didn't know if it was better for jk to do it at night or do it first thing in the morning
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 14:07 GMT
#5808
I read Slam posts, but see NOTHING

He epitomises the shitness of this game.

Just kill me already please. I am the JK, I kept stacking marv and stopped cos he asked me too.
Kill me.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 14:08 GMT
#5809
On June 25 2014 23:06 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 13:00 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 25 2014 12:38 strongandbig wrote:
On June 25 2014 12:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 25 2014 12:18 sinani206 wrote:
On June 25 2014 12:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
alright change of plans, jailkeeper claims so we can confirm chromatically is mafia right now and all agree to vote him asap.


explain logic here please


very simple

jailkeeper claims

9 blues

we have a confirmation on chromatically visiting rainbows who was killed that night

he is the fake blue.

jailkeeper cannot be fake because marv is on record as town saying it happened




how do you know slam is telling the truth about being vet

Read my filter

COME AT ME BRO

what is scum motive

I dunno, I don't see the scum motive which is why I want to kill chromatically, but people keep telling me that the scum motivation would be to try and set up this exact situation. I dunno, I guess that's possible but I still think chromatically is more likely scum than you are. I just think it's dangerous to treat you as confirmed.

And @va - the way it works is, I think chromatically is scum so I want to vote him. You saying you also want to vote him doesn't make you town. You could be lying about voting him, and be about to vote someone else with the rest of your team; or I could be wrong and chromatically could be town. Both of those are still possible.

Conlcusion

Waffle
!moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 14:16 GMT
#5813
Conclusion

More waffle.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 19:24 GMT
#5824
This night period needs to fucking end already
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 19:28 GMT
#5826
at this point, everyone but me
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 19:30 GMT
#5828
There's a high non-negative chance that I won't survive the night
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 20:02 GMT
#5834
Was anyone jailed last night?
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 20:03 GMT
#5835
Can we get a list of players still alive? please? quickly? thanks!
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 20:07 GMT
#5839
9 players alive. That means that kush was mafia. 5-4 right now

Claimed Blues
sinani206 - tracker
Chromatically - tracker
Alakaslam - vet

Claimed VT
Chairman Ray
27ninjabunnies
strongandbig
Holyflare
VayneAuthority

1/3 of the blues are mafia
3/5 of the vt are mafia.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 20:10 GMT
#5842
mafia team prolly something like: Chrom, CR, Holy/SnB/VA

Man, I really don't wanna live in the world that bunnies is mafia.

We have to lynch perfectly from here on out
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 20:52 GMT
#5852
##vote: Chromatically
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 20:53 GMT
#5853
Sinani -- who did you follow last night? I really really hope you followed Chrom.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 20:54 GMT
#5854
On June 26 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote:
Sinani -- who did you follow last night? I really really hope you followed Chrom.

Scrolled up and saw. Not sure why you didn't check chrom It was the obvious check. He was 100% going to live and you are confirmed tracker based off of the fact that you and he both claimed that he visited rainbows.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 21:22 GMT
#5861
Who'd you follow? Result?
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 25 2014 21:23 GMT
#5863
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 26 2014 22:11 GMT
#5958
So we're not lynching chrom for what reason exactly? I can't believe I actually have to post.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
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