TL 'Order' LXVI Mafia

On June 07 2014 14:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Well they all get caught eventually.

The delinquents, of course. Not blacks.

On June 12 2014 10:35 batsnacks wrote:
People voting ketomai:

Why vote vayne or mattisfoolish?

On June 12 2014 11:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Actually can we just kill VA?

On June 13 2014 01:48 Amiko wrote:


Palmar (0): batsnacks
yamato77 (0): Palmar
roundabound (1): ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter, batsnacks, Chairman Ray, Bill Murray, Bill Murray, ketomai
sinani206 (0): Chromatically, Tehpoofter
Koshi (2): TicaTica, Tehpoofter, Rainbows, HaruRH, Chromatically, sinani206
TicaTica (0): Koshi
ExO_ (1): sandroba, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta
HolyFlare (0): Tehpoofter, Palmar
Bill Murray (0): roundabound
ketomai (2): ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter, Tehpoofter, roundabound
batsnacks (0): Chairman Ray, TheKingOfTheCats, Alakaslam
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Mattisfoolish, Bill Murray, Koshi
tehpoofter (1): Bill Murray, Palmar, VayneAuthority
strongandbig (7): Bill Murray, Palmar, Rainbows, Chairman Ray, ketomai, Alakaslam, HaruRH, Koshi
Chairman Ray (1): HaruRH, gumshoe, ExO_
Marvellosity (0): Tehpoofter
VayneAuthority (3): yamato77, kushm4sta, Meapak_Ziphh
Chromatically (1): ritoky
ritoky (0): ketomai
kushm4sta (3): ObiWanShinobi, HolyFlare, TheKingOfTheCats, ExO_
justanothertownie (0): Koshi, Palmar
ObiWanShinobi (1): TicaTica
TheKingOfTheCats (4): marvellosity, Palmar, justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi

Not voting (2): Erandorr, strongandbig

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On June 13 2014 02:15 Koshi wrote:
VayneAuthority
Trow us a serious vote pls.

On June 13 2014 03:48 Holyflare wrote:
lazyyy and bit tipsy (where's marv to take advantage when you need him), what's marvs case summed up in 1 line?

On June 13 2014 03:52 Holyflare wrote:


so you're saying the wagon is wrong then?

On June 13 2014 06:40 Koshi wrote:

poofter said some dumb stuff but he posted so much. Also he gave marv a scum read.

On April 29 2014 20:48 Tehpoofter wrote:
So this game started good to know. Been catching up all day. So I'm going to say I came into reading the thread during the night knowing S&B's alignment I didn't read a word before looking at the day post.

Where I'm at so far:

In the red corner we have!
Koshi
Foolishness
Oats
Alakaslam
(reads to come on these in later posts)

Light Reds:
WoS
WoS - This is an associative read and is based on the fact I strongly feel Koshi to be scum. When Koshi gave his big list of everyone in town he said that WoS "town cuz good posts" WoS didn't respond to this but when prphlz said that he was in his "trying" list he said "I'm not even sure I could consider my activity... "trying""+ Show Spoiler +
Why not point it out on Koshi's list too? he also soft defends Koshi with geript, He also said my particular favorite line to say when I'm scum "Man I wish I were scum this game" + Show Spoiler +
Its light red because if I'm wrong on Koshi I think WoS stuff can isn't as bad like I did like most of his posts those just stood out to me as odd.

In the green corner we have!
austin Austin is in a land of his own in town aside from Tehpoofter he's my topest town! He was actively trying to push against the ML on S&B he was asking lots and lots of questions and is addressing almost everyone in the thread. He was also doing so in a small amount of posts after reading day 1 I thought to myself "Wow how did austin not cap on posts" Then i looked at his filter and he made 19 posts and gave 6 away. To me he felt like the strongest presence in the game but he didn't even make the full posts allotted to him he gave away 1/5th of them. Basically he said a lot in few words which I think is very townie to do scum say little with a lot of words imo.

Caller The town reads fall off from here but I think what Caller did (once I got to the part that the nuke was fake) was that he started discussion HELLA early in a gmae with limited postings this was super pro town in my opinion. I think mafia would loved to have rued in the chaos and wasted posts of a game starting he also didn't endanger town and even said that the nuke wasn't real before it hit and Palmer had done the anti-town thing he was claiming. MafiaCaller would have waited until after Palmer did whatever anti-town thing he was going to do (assuming in this case of course Palmer is town) then say "it was just fake bro calm down" instead to me it read kinda like "ok lets not let things get out of hand here I just wanted people to talk"

Odin His first post was exactly what I was thinking in my read through. + Show Spoiler + I don't think it turned out to be too relevant but at the time I was in the same mindset. What really sold me on OOP was his end of day. He basically decided he needed to consolidate the vote he went on Oats originally then after talking to town hero Austin a bit decided to vote on SnB later. He also was talking out his reasoning (maybe not good reasons but he had them) he wasn't just mindlessly consolidating to look town. The only point I have against OOP is after the flip occured he made the post of "lol I look bad now" which to me is something scum might say because they are the ones to care about how votes look town would be mad about being wrong but not about looking bad.

These people are a lighter green
Ceph Palmer Ace
Ceph - Made a big post at the start of the day instead of the end he also seemed far more confident than he did in cell mafia as scum to me, this isn't enough for a solid read though.
Palmer - His reaction to be a big baby and hold town hostage seems more town than mafia to me but I have a hard time or reading him as mafia. I do however think that as scum Palmer might give up and do the same thing but I feel like he would have screwed with town more.
Ace - He called out Foolishness on his weak meta case against SnB and I felt had a townie mindset on the Caller/Palmer situation I think he is wrong on Palmer but he did try to push his lynch on Palmer which is a townie thing. My reason for not putting him higher is that he replied to the post about him not talking about NBA/posting gifs by posting a gif which could be a joke or mafia being like "shit I better give out my town tell thanks for reminding me"

On June 13 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:

so? he literally said "i'm gonna make a post just like i do when i'm mafia lol"

i mean cmon vayne.

On June 14 2014 01:23 marvellosity wrote:
you don't think he follows the stuff he said himself?

On June 14 2014 01:24 marvellosity wrote:

the point is that if mafia having enough KP is a worry, he would be unlikely to give town a lot of KP (2 2-shot vig)

so yes, i think a town-vigi would be very suspicious of MZ right now

which makes me think that mz wouldn't randomly claim. possibly.

On June 16 2014 05:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


me either. thats why i didnt do it.

also VA stop picking terrible vig targets.

On June 17 2014 05:59 marvellosity wrote:
I really really really really really really want to kill mif/sandroba, but i have no idea how to divine the mafia between them.

On June 17 2014 09:44 sandroba wrote:
So does foolishness have any excuse as to why he has a 1 page filter with nothing at all? And did anyone announce they would be shooting kushmaster in the thread?

On June 20 2014 01:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I think i should be on the non lynch list.

I think the for sure lynch list should be

Ritoky
CR
Batsnacks
VA

On June 20 2014 01:42 roundabound wrote:

Please stop. Your participation this game is on par with gumshoe's. The only difference is that you actually vote.

On June 20 2014 06:11 marvellosity wrote:

no, his comments after the last flip is a big thing that differentiates him from gumshoe.

On June 20 2014 06:41 Holyflare wrote:



lol ok time to die, sure

On November 29 2013 01:58 Holyflare wrote:


Care to explain?

On June 20 2014 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
Congratulations you quoted something that occured before the quote i posted and wasn't even a real mafia read as evidenced by the later quote.

On June 21 2014 05:57 marvellosity wrote:
there is no pretence or charade, the claim is highly likely to be true barring another alignment cop claim, and we have a redcheck.

Fin.

On June 21 2014 07:16 ritoky wrote:


enjoy being wrong.

On June 21 2014 08:02 strongandbig wrote:



no the emotional response is "he misplayed HE MUST DIE"

the logical play is, you know, to try and READ HIS ALIGNMENT.

On June 21 2014 14:37 27ninjabunnies wrote:
VA.

Wtf?

On June 23 2014 05:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Unless Kush was blue.

On June 25 2014 12:18 sinani206 wrote:


explain logic here please

On June 26 2014 01:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:


It's 3 pm for me.

I thought KP couldnt be tracked tho!

And what motive does Chrom have for claiming Tracker/miller when ritoky outed as a cop?