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On June 11 2014 09:27 yamato77 wrote: at p. 30, three posts I want to comment on This case is not good. Sinani is not mafia for how he's played so far, and marv agreeing with Chrom about this read is suspicious. Do not like the sinani = mafia read at all. This about sums up my thoughts on Robik. Not to be taken seriously. That said, I don't like the case on him either, however I find this post to be a more reasonable and townie one than Chrom's post about sinani. tl;dr Chrom and Marv bad, sinani and robik not good lynches, Chairman townish. On June 11 2014 09:29 marvellosity wrote: you're bad because you fail at basic reading comprehension. go you. and here:+ Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 09:30 roundabound wrote: Yamato has to be scum; or a completely changed man ~moc I also noticed Koshi's post here: + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote: Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself: ObiWanShinobi: Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted). + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early. im just gonna sheep him forever. On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. On June 11 2014 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote: roundabout, posting from what appears to be one of the moons of jupiter. very interesting. hows the weather up there? On June 11 2014 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote: hi im poofter and i cannot english someone help Chairman Ray: Not an awkward entrance. I am cool with CR. Also a case that looks coming from town . + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 05:52 Chairman Ray wrote: Not everyone who townclaimed is town. I see them posting in my mafia QT. Stop lying guys. On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote: First scumread for me: roundabound The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. TehPoofter: Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam: + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote: Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game. roundabound: Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now. + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote: The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote: This is a really weird reaction from Palmar. If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post. On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote: You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote: Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared. Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote awkward corner aka might lynch will watch: Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him. tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread. + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first therefore the first six people to post are scum gg On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote: Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering. Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good. On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. ##Vote: sinani206 TicaTica: Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler. + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote: Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll. On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote: Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy. On June 11 2014 07:06 TicaTica wrote: Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity. ##vote: TicaTica So yeah, I like chrom for early pressure and general posting, moc / marv seem to be on the same page as I am. Yamato seems a bit off, leaning maff. Koshi evul. Randoms reads. Bill Murray seems like a douche, but not mafia douche atm. Leaning somewhat townie douche. I'm OK with a douche as long as he doesn't bleed red. Chairman seems pretty well-structured to me, post on round appeals to a lot of logical assumptions. His koshi post goes from "his post seems scummy" to "he seems town", so i'm not sure what he's trying to do there. | ||
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On June 11 2014 11:52 Chairman Ray wrote: batsnacks, I do not fully understand your post, and was hoping you could clarify a few thing for me: Do you have specific posts? I feel you are speaking too metaphorically and I don't actually see what you mean in his filter. I'm not sure how to respond to this. What does "too impressive" mean? tehpoofer made a ton of posts today and you have summarized a few of them. Can you explain why these posts you have selected are alignment indicative, and what you think about all his other posts? Palmer has skipped the game thus far because of dota. Why is he not on your FOS? Why is this town indicative? Why doesn't Bill Murray get town cred from calling out roundabout's sheeping the wrong player? Why is this suspicious behavior? Exo has made posts that are not just asking for terminology. Why did you discount these posts? Why did you give TicaTica a null read with no real explanation, and not included any of the other people who have posted in this thread? I don't understand what this post is trying to achieve by CR. He claims to "not fully understand" this post, but asks questions about people not even referenced by bat, (IE Why not FoS Palmar? Why not include other people?) even asks why the null read at this stage in the game. What is the goal? I'm having a difficult time understanding Chair's motivations so far. | ||
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On June 11 2014 12:16 roundabound wrote: I love finding mafia day 1. People of this town. Note how ketomai manages to self-flagellate Translation: Hey man, leave me alone. I'm just posting for the sake of posting but want to go back hiding in the shadows. ~moc If this turns out to be correct moc is confirmed mafia god. | ||
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On June 11 2014 12:17 TicaTica wrote: Is Rainbows around still? If he be, then peeky at batsnacks. His read post looks being rather off. Four Fifth of his null read are "easy pickings" read. His four wolfy reads are dastardly off base being my opinion (exception perhaps Chairman Ray). Only one of wolfy reads is even developed which being tehpoofter and the mindset is quite hmmmm unique. His reads look very fishing to me. What is your take? I agree that the nulls were probably not even needed to be mentioned. The scum reads we OK, I don't agree with them all. Kind of sparse but it's the early game. I saw the post initially and it didn't strike me as super odd at the time. What do you mean his mindset is unique? He's saying he saw a pattern in tehpoofter and he's looking likes he is helping. It's not a terrible analysis, just not fantastic. | ||
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lol, sorry. Because Koshi is mafia. | ||
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On June 11 2014 12:30 TicaTica wrote: How he thinks make people scummy very odd. His read are nonsense; summarize play and calling it scummy. Feeling very odd. Mayhaps he is just less good of player and am not familiar with me. Bat's analysis of Tehpoofter just seems to go a bit ahead of himself. A little eager. I like that you notice the offness. | ||
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On June 11 2014 12:34 batsnacks wrote: So Rainbows... Did you ever get your answer? You generally answered "Your posts are too intelligent and thorough", which means he is mafia. I meant specifically what do you think CR's goal (assuming, he is town) this game, because the post where he asks you a bunch of questions seems to be irrelevant. | ||
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On June 11 2014 12:40 batsnacks wrote: If CR is town I assume his goal is to lynch mafia? I'm not trying to argue or disagree or whatever, but help me understand, why were his questions irrelevant? If CR is town, he is trying to figure out your intentions with your reads post. To see if YOU are mafia. If this is the case, why does he ask "Why not Palmar?" or "Why tica = null". He asks a question about every one of your reads. Feels like homework. Not all of the questions were bad, just some like "why is this scummy" when that should have been self-explanatory. | ||
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On June 11 2014 09:20 Chairman Ray wrote: If Koshi is heading out for the night, I'm just gonna chime in now. Koshi's big analysis post reads pretty scummy to me. His mafia reads seem pretty sincere and thought out, but his town reads are very short. Whether or not he believes them himself is not evident, but it doesn't convey much to the reader. My initial thinking is that his townreads serve to 'bulk' up his post. I've seen a lot of mafia in previous games iterate through people and give a quick impression of them without a well thought out read on them. This gives the impression that they are active and their posts are longer without actually having to do a lot of investigation. What strikes me odd was his next post: Koshi posted this in response to the people that were dismissive of his reads. This is a very important distinction because people react differently when they are opposed by analysis and when they are opposed by a one liner. In this case, most people just posted a quick one liner dismissing him. From Koshi's perspective, if he just gave out a few quick impressions without a lot of thought, he wouldn't have any sort of attachment or loyalty to his post. His response to the critics would be something like "Those were just my gut feelings at the moment, they may change by the end of the day". Instead, he dismissed the critics with a one liner post containing no new information by posting "No sorry my towns are town". It may be hard to read into on forum mafia, but to me he sounds a bit frustrated and doesn't feel his critics doesn't deserve any more than a one liner. If this is the case, then Koshi has some genuine belief of his townreads, and regardless of the quality of his reads or how he conveyed them, this seems more town to me. tl;dr I disagree with Koshi's townreads, even though I am among them; I disagree with Sandroba that Koshi is mafia. I don't get CR's goal with his postings. he comes to no conclusion, just that some post made koshi scummy but his next post made him more town. So is he mafia or town for CR at this point? I care not that CR is posting intelligently (this is a good thing!!!), but there's a bunch of text with seemingly no bite involved atm | ||
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Still don't like this quote from Koshi's first post. Seems too confident / bold / soft-defency of a statement for town to make. That's just the one thing that sticks out for Koshi and is in my head when I think 'Koshi' so I want to see if anyone sees what I see or if I'm bad. | ||
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I indicate SnB is mafia. Lynch with fire. ##Unvote: Koshi ##Vote: StrongandBig | ||
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On June 12 2014 09:23 Erandorr wrote: I forgot about this game. Hello friends Hello Scum. It's pretty obvious that you're mafia, your team already gave up because super town heroes completely destroyed them. GGWP plz concede. | ||
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Can't really disagree with anything in Tehpoofters case, esp. cus keto got all butthurt because of Mocsta's 'inconsequential' thing and peaced out. Nothing wrong with any of these lynches imo. | ||
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On June 12 2014 09:41 Chromatically wrote: I think ketomai totally depends on what he posts next. The thing that happened in thread could have easily been a townie startled by people jumping on him before he starts playing. I agree that it's weird that he feels like he has to vote between round and Exo, but it's not really scummy..? He could have easily left his vote on himself and that would draw less attention. What he posts next is the important part. This seems to be a theme this game. "What he posts next is important". Happened with Koshi, happening right here. This better stop by day 2. | ||
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Scumreads changed little cus of the flip. SnB looks a bit better but could still maf. Tehpoofter is town so is round. anyone says they arent are wrong. So much phoneposting need computer. | ||
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Rather lynch a pseudo active scummy than an inactive, more info from flip. Thats how i like to play so vig inactives and lynch the scummers. OK with a lynch on like 5-6 guys tomorrow. Tomorrow post fr computer. much better | ||
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But here is scum. I noticed after he voted me so I wanted to figure out why. Haru is mafia This post here: On June 11 2014 21:11 HaruRH wrote: Uh.... you seemed to miss the point. Ver used BOTH points as a combination of factors. Even if VA is about to turn into a blue post craping whore, the truth is he haven't. You either jumped the gun too early, or you are trying to shoot him before he turned, which leads into 2 outcomes : 1) He WILL turn 2)You are just trying to shoot for the heck of it. Uh... stop? Stop. I really mean it, stop. I'll quote Ver's analysis RE: VA MASSIVE INCONGRUENCY. ... I'M WATCHING YOU YAMATO. is scummy to high heavens. Does he do an analysis of yamato based on his play? No. Is he discerning his alignment? Doesn't appear to. All he says is 'stop that' and that he's watching Yamato. What is the purpose of this post from a townie perspective? The only thing I could think of is pressure--but it harasses a player without any insight of what side he is playing for. Haru isn't trying to convince anyone that Yamato is mafia, so there is no town purpose to this post. After these jabs at Yamato, he votes for CR here: On June 11 2014 18:42 HaruRH wrote: I read through 30+ pages of 'stuff' and the huge post by koshi and the reads off koshi's posts were striking to me. CR seems like trying to earn some towncred by pointing out koshi first, so that in the future he can use this as a reference to how towny he is. Town totem: Chrom, batsnacks. Everyone else is hard to read. They make towny posts, then destroy their own image by making themselves look scummy. On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote: I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray My problem arises with the bolded. Just read it over, slowly. Does it make any sense whatsoever? Apparently, it seemed as if CR is attacking Koshi in order to gain towncred LATER in the game? I don't think this analysis makes any sense whatsoever. What townie in this game came to that same conclusion, please tell me. I didn't. "Oh, CR must be attacing Koshi first so he can use it as towncred later" WHAT? CR was scummy, but not for this reason at all. The reference to his Koshi vote as a 'placeholder' is additionally acts as a buffer for scrutiny. *assume koshi flips town at some point* "Why were you voting Koshi D1?" "Oh it was just a placeholder no worries!" On June 12 2014 18:00 HaruRH wrote: I thought I said the vote on CR from me was a placeholder? SnB have some weird posts, will link them here in one sec, Filter dived him today. So now CR is a placeholder vote? Scummy as balls. Then he provides shoddy reasoning for calling snb scum. On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote: After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. Then he shitposts. It's interesting that Haru calls my reasons for voting SnB terrible, but in the same breath can post something like the above with almost no analysis whatsoever. It reaks of keeping doors open. WARNING, SCUMMIEST POST IN THREAD INCOMING: + Show Spoiler + On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote: Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru. Firstly, this haru guy don't even contribute At ALL. Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH Oh my God. How did nobody look at the before, what in God's name is this terrible post. Haru posted this when somebody said they wanted to lynch him D1 for not contributing (or something). This is his response. Haru literally just quotes posts he made and says "I contribute a lot". This is actually fine, but examine for a moment the way he goes about it. The post is completely sarcastic and not serious. Imagine Haru is town and is under pressure for not contributing. I don't think the response is the same. Mafia Haru is nervous, doesn't want his self-defense to be overly defending himself because that's what mafia do--hard defend themselves against small allegations. Instead, he chooses to guise his post in sarcasm in order to alleviate tension. This post screams mafia insecurity. Haru is Mafia for the following reasons: - Blatant insecurity about his image, using sarcasm in order to deflect pressure off of himself. Calling his votes placeholders do he does not have to commit. - Ignoring the KotC case completely. Town would probably weigh in, but scum are afraid to be wishy-washy about the issue concerning their scum partner. Scum do not want to vote their guy, OR appear to not want to vote him. Avoidance is the best way to do this. - Keeping multiple avenues open during D1 for lynches. Town do this, so do I, I didn't care if we lynched like 10 different people. But Haru posts very thin or nonsensical reasons for his 'suspects' (CR gaining towncred later with koshi pressure lolwut). Town would just be like "ok ill lynch this guy because lurk / because shitpost / because giant douche". The way Haru tries to rationalize the CR vote makes little sense to me. ALL of his votes have been either "not serious" (Koshi, himself) or really bad reasoning (CR), or epic sheepmode on Ritosky. - OMGUS Voting myself, an easy town mislynch, by going hard after the wishy-washy post I made about KotC OMGUS. | ||
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On June 14 2014 09:12 roundabound wrote: Rainbow I read the haru case. I like the second half more than the first. Second is quite damming to me actually. Regarding first half, it's slightly town to me. As town, if he thinks koshi is scum. He's paying attention to the guys wielding koshi pitchforks and comments cr may be disingenuine. That's an astute observation for mafia to throw out in my experience. Typically mafia would be happy to have a read on player x. And are too lazy to note publiclly further interactions. If scum, and koshi is town. This observation holds no weight if koshi flips. Overall, I think the second half is more damming than my points for in the first half. I'm happy with dither ketonai or haru ~moc I disagree. Haru points out that CR is attempting to build towncred later by attacking koshi now. this means that CR and Koshi would both have to be mafia, because CR would no way get towncred if he pushes a town koshi early in the game--just the opposite. | ||
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On June 14 2014 09:31 roundabound wrote: Rainbows. U just reiterated what I wrote abd implied Yes, scum want to have multiple leads. E.g. koshi and cr BUT Cr I don't believe was a scum read for anyone at that point in time. Seems a far fetch, to throw out randomly is all I'm saying. If cr was a scum read already, which I can't easily check right now, then you are pprobably right and it was an opportune swing. Feel like helping to confirm if haru was the first on cr? ~moc CR was a popular scumread. On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote: I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray On June 12 2014 04:58 gumshoe wrote: Hey, just caught up in a blitz. Here are my notes / : + Show Spoiler + Chanman = town for brave gallows houmer Palmer= neutral claim, fits? Maybs kill? Him bieng grey would explain his ambivilance, but if he was actually third party would he be so cavalier about it? Chrom= Town for yolo push onto Koshi, posts do seem well thought out too. Tehpoofter= redish for wanting spam? Round= talking alot, not sure scum can play so fluid. Robik is known to be pretty emotional so the whole peronsal defence thing is in character. bats= Aggresive. Dont like how everything reafirms his own bias, but his activity is helpful to town as a whole so townie? Jat= Dont like how he tries t interject in the bat round fight. Will read more into him Sinani- Unspoken tryst with round? Attacks other not quite as active players? Scumish? Ritoky = town for brazen freedom mongering Marv= null, biding his time one way or another. Dont like the whole “your bad and you should feel bad.” attitude he has regarding accusations. Tica Tica= not sure why hes calling back to plam? Feels townie cause hes clearing names and picking out odd targets. Doesnt feel like he has an agenda? Tefpoof= odd koshi attack? Dont like how he wanted to catch Marv for the sake of catching marv, feels like seeding? Meapak= Null? Wierdness obscures actual motives? Reads Marv as scum, will need to see more of him Vayne= Skips a bunch of pages? Not sure scum would feel safe enough to do that? Belies a sense of isolation or potentially scummy laziness. Hard to say. Kush= null Chairman= Dont like how he basically says he doesnt like a whole post, then proceeds to break it apart bit by bit. Yet doesnt make an accusation out of it? Feels like hes trying to get other townies to jump, as if “take your pick folks! I cant eat another bite / :” scummy, will elaborate on him. Exo= Scared to rush out opinions? Scumish Bill murray= Insane Yamato is fearless= town Rainbows= Like his whole “these guys are on the same page as me, and have the same process, I'm town ergo so are they!” Not necessarily right but reads as a townie mentality. Dont like this post by Chairman What I get from it is that he basically didnt like Bats whole post, but doesn't immediately jump on him for it? The way he so cleanly spread out his greivances, it feels like hes trying to offer everyone something to pounce on, but doesnt peronally leap on any of it himself. When the opposite happens, and people jump on him for the shoddy post, he comes out swinging, but drops the read after just a couple hours when no one really agrees with him / : Notably Bat was an enemy of Rounds, as was Chair man. Did he bilieve they were scum together? Cause he never took back his read on round. Honestly it seems as if the heat on Round died down a bit and he came after Bat because thats the conflict he was most familiar with ( when your maf you tend to focus more on the events that directly concern you and as a result your accusations lean that way because those are the matters your best versed in.) Yeah not a fan of the Chair....Man On June 11 2014 11:29 batsnacks wrote: Okay I'm caught up here's my notes so far: Chairman Ray - Too impressive a performance to be town. Leaning heavily toward mafia. On June 11 2014 12:14 Rainbows wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 11:52 Chairman Ray wrote: batsnacks, I do not fully understand your post, and was hoping you could clarify a few thing for me: Do you have specific posts? I feel you are speaking too metaphorically and I don't actually see what you mean in his filter. I'm not sure how to respond to this. What does "too impressive" mean? tehpoofer made a ton of posts today and you have summarized a few of them. Can you explain why these posts you have selected are alignment indicative, and what you think about all his other posts? Palmer has skipped the game thus far because of dota. Why is he not on your FOS? Why is this town indicative? Why doesn't Bill Murray get town cred from calling out roundabout's sheeping the wrong player? Why is this suspicious behavior? Exo has made posts that are not just asking for terminology. Why did you discount these posts? Why did you give TicaTica a null read with no real explanation, and not included any of the other people who have posted in this thread? I don't understand what this post is trying to achieve by CR. He claims to "not fully understand" this post, but asks questions about people not even referenced by bat, (IE Why not FoS Palmar? Why not include other people?) even asks why the null read at this stage in the game. What is the goal? I'm having a difficult time understanding Chair's motivations so far. On June 11 2014 12:49 batsnacks wrote: "Feels like homework" I like that. I like what you just said. Good. Did you hear that MZ? It feels to me like Chairman Ray is doing homework i.e. responding carefully and intelligently to what he has to. He is the only person in this game I have this feeling about. All these and some i missed way before haru posts. | ||
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On June 14 2014 22:23 HaruRH wrote: so you're not sure if I'm mafia now? Hey rainbows, or should I say scum|rainbows, one suggestion is to ask your buddies on scum QT/Skype/whatever to proofread your replies. They reek of TMI and scumminess. Until your scumbuddies have proofread it properly, then you post it here. How do my posts reek of TMI? I do not know if you are mafia. You haben't flipped yet. The rest of this reply is just shitposting, rude, and unnecessary. Im trying to parse out if im lynching the wrong guy and you are not convincing me. | ||
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On June 14 2014 22:28 HaruRH wrote: you certainly don't sound like someone who is trying to deduce if you're lynching the wrong guy. Wait, you're doubting yourself now? How do your posts reek of TMI? read the bolded parts again out loud. Well, I know I'm lynching you. Of course you don't know if I'm mafia, since you already know everyone is town except your scum buddies. Of course I doubt myself because IM FUCKING TOWN. If I were scum and you were town, I'd just relentlessly push the mislynch like I did in my newbie scumgame until he died. The only information I have is right in front of me. You seem scummy based on prior actions, therefore, you have a good chance to flip mafia, but it is never a 100% shot in this case. Your confidence brigade here is not appealing in the least, and it's scummy as shit that you can't even sit down to look at the other side of the coin. Also at the bolded parts, you aren't even reading my post. . . they say 'If you are town, you wouldn't know my alignment, and wouldn't put all eggs in one basket like this' These interactions | ||
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On June 14 2014 22:32 HaruRH wrote: And sorry if I sound rude now, I get pretty mad when people present cases that are completely disproved and still push with the cases. The case isn't disproved lol. The way you acted day 1 stands on its own as scummy. It is impossible to disprove the ignoring of kotc case and the insecurity of your day 1 play. It happened, you can give reasons that you did those things, but they could just be fabrications. | ||
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I dont like that exo made a case on chrom who i think is town | ||
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On June 15 2014 04:18 HaruRH wrote: LCS or World Cup... the decision is very real.... So I just want to wait to see if rainbows is willing to let go, if he is ,I will do so too. SCUM! Haru only wants to let go if I don't threaten to lynch him. This is NOT TOWNIE. Haru is too concerned with self-preservation. He is attempting to bargain with me so that he can live. "As long as you don't call me scum and try to lynch me, I'll do the same". His scumread on me is not predicated on thinking I'm mafia -- if it were, he would not care if I am simultaneously pressuring him. If he wanted to let go, he would just let go. He is mafia that doesn't want to be in the spotlight anymore. SHINE SHINE MUTHAFUCKA I am not your buddy Haru. You may be sexy and attractive but you are not my friend, pal. SCUM. DIE. EVERYBODY VOTE HARU. HE IS MAFIA. | ||
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On June 15 2014 07:03 Tehpoofter wrote: I'd like to see Haru respond to this. Why is your read on Rainbows contingent on his read on you? @ Rainbows You have any other wolf reads besides Haru? I agree that is a really wolfy thing for Haru to say like he only reads you wolf for pressuring him. I will oblige you in diction. I read Exo slightly as wolf. Part of me can't put a finger on it--but KotC townread him for no reason at the beginning of D1. He had a case on Chrom who I believe is town. His day 1 play was lackluster from what I remember. SnB is slightly more townie after the lynch, but I'm still suspicious of his inactivity and ability to do nothing today (after all--if he is town, he possesses the greatest amount of information right now, besides mafia or an alignment cop i suppose). Sandro and Matt I'm lumping together in a "would lynch because not doing much" label. I actually don't want to touch Kush right now cus cats wanted to lynch him I believe (noob scum probably dont bus, eh?). CR hasn't done anything besides say 'hey man, i like what you said about haru' today, and his play d1 i am still weary of. Keto slightly wolf as well but I won't give him a reason so he can complain about me not giving a reason :p | ||
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On June 15 2014 07:11 Rainbows wrote: I will oblige you in diction. I read Exo slightly as wolf. Part of me can't put a finger on it--but KotC townread him for no reason at the beginning of D1. He had a case on Chrom who I believe is Wow. Sorry poof | ||
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On June 15 2014 09:09 kushm4sta wrote: 1. KotC is not new. He plays on OMGUS a lot. 2. I think Haru is town. saying "ill drop it if you do" is not something scum is likely to do, because they want it to seem like there is real conviction behind their reads. So, then, Haru has no real conviction behind his read on me. Yet is willing to get lynched so people will lynch me the following day? ehhhh | ||
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If you cant do that vote on CR for being the second scummiest person in thread with his errandor vote. If you can't do that vote sandro for policy inactive. I decree this the ultimate plan. | ||
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So the night kills. I'm going to assume Kush was town and we have 5 mafia left, and I'm not going to read into the janitor or anything. Koshi getting hit was expected. Tehpoofter was one of my top town reads and I really liked his reads post during the night, I agreed with it very much. There are two sections of people we need to lynch in this game. They are inactive people who look scummy, and the semi-active people who look scummy. Most of the fairly active people appear at least somewhat townish and are in my townreads. I'm willing to accept that perhaps 1 maybe 2 are the active mafia and most are the inactive / semi-lurkish people in the thread. I would not mind lynching the following people today, in order of preference: Ketomai, Chairman Ray, SnB, Sandroba, MiF, maybe Ritoky. There are a few others that I have barely read into that should probably get the noose as well. Ketomai is mafia for a few reasons. 1) The RoundaBound 'placeholder' vote. All relevant quotes and exposition are spoilered. + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 11:38 ketomai wrote: I'm going to place my vote with roundabound until I can catch up with the thread. Exo is the one running against him and there's not much that indicates scum for me yet. I'll post again tomorrow after work with some more detailed opinion. This thread is incredibly hard to read/follow on my phone. Keto places a vote onto Round, claiming that of the two wagons, Round is more scummy than Exo. I find it interesting that Keto limits himself to these two wagons instead of placing a vote elsewhere. Who else did he find scummy in his first read through? As Ketomai would go onto explain, he does not even believe Round is mafia. On June 11 2014 11:51 ketomai wrote: @roundabout I skimmed both situations and you were the more likely one of the two; I thought that should've been obvious. I'm casting the vote early in case something happens so I don't get instant modkilled. Obviously when I'm done reading the thread and thinking about things I'll most probably give my opinions and change it up. Until then, you can pretty much disregard my vote for you as filler after a cursory glance at both situations. The justification for the round vote is incredibly mafia-like. Ketomai wants round and the thread to take his vote not seriously, claiming that he will change his vote. His vote is 'filler', a waste. Think of the intent behind these two quotes and vote. A town intent would suggest voting someone Keto believes is mafia in attempt to push him. A mafia intent involves 1) Survival (not being modkilled, good for town too but he makes the explicit notion of only voting for self-preservation). 2) Side-stepping responsibility, by casting his vote under the guise of 'filler' and claiming he will change it. 3) Avoiding the suspicion of Round; by ensuring him that he doesn't believe Round is mafia and he will most certainly 'change it up'. Keto attempts to appease Round by saying "disregard that vote", and that typically does not come from town. On June 11 2014 12:00 ketomai wrote: How is fallacious if I'm not even making an argument, lol. I do not think you are scum, just moreso than Exo at this very moment. 6. Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain. It's also not very smart of me to just eventually vote for you anyway if I were mafia. If I were mafia, it''d be a lot easier to just stash away my vote somewhere since your bandwagon is already gaining steam. If I were trying to save exo as mafia than him flipping would eventually lead to my demise. Don't worry, lol. This quote further reinforces that Keto does not believe the person he is voting is scum. The "If I were mafia bit" is rather ironic, and appeals to his own actions thus far in the game. Is not what he claims he would do as mafia, EXACTLY what he is doing? Keto is stashing away his vote on a bandwagon that is already gaining steam. Mafia want to lynch town (assuming round is town, i like the chances of this), and adding a vote 'in case something happens' to the town wagon only benefits mafia. It is convenient for mafia to place this vote because they can claim that 'something did happen' and I couldn't get home to change my vote. But I'm sorry he flipped town, I didn't even believe he was mafia. On June 11 2014 12:11 ketomai wrote: By the way, I guarantee my vote will change tomorrow unless I actually start thinking you're mafia. How's that? It's in writing ok? More appeasement of Round. The GUARANTEE that he will change his vote!!! This does not even PRESSURE Round. Town intent of this post is practically nonexistent. Mafia intent is to appease Round and to have an excuse to vote on his wagon. The bottom "How's that? It's in writing ok?" testifies to Keto's mindset: he seems a bit scared that he is being called out for the vote. 2) The "Everyone who wants to lynch me is mafia" Defense, and Scattershot + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote: Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine. I have a few problems with this post. The first is he calls out everyone attacking him (THE ULTIMATE OMGUS ), calling the discussion around him a topic of 'chaos'. If everyone simply wants to create more chaos, does that not mean they are all mafia? It makes little sense to claim that 'hanging onto' Ketomai creates chaos. If it did, then Keto could give us some samples of these mafia people, but he neglects to do so. Then, he claims that the town is being manipulated. Manipulated by who? Mafia? At first Keto claims the people hanging on are creating chaos (mafia), and then claims they are being manipulated (unfortunate townie). Such incongruity, what does he really believe? Seems like mafia making stuff up. It seems like a mafia gambit to lash out against the town for calling him out. It's scattershot, to say the least. He furthers his campaign by implying that these same people are not looking 'objectively' at the game, which essentially calls them bad. The entire post is steeped in a negative tone, calling the town bad, and they should lose the game if they lynch him. Doesn't appear very townie at all to me. In addition, he calls his own posts 'random comments'. If they are not relevant, and just 'random comments', then why make them? Town have a purpose to voting and making comments: to discern who is mafia. Mafia make random comments for no reason to appear active. I can think of one town intention to making this post: if the townie is very mad, and wants to make the point that the points against him are bad. This intention can also be that of scum. The manner by which he executes his post, however, appears to be that of mafia because of it's totally aggressive, generalizing, and omgus nature. On June 11 2014 12:23 ketomai wrote: Anyone who is taking round or your comments about me seriously. If you don't believe me, filter my posts and look where I began posting. The initial comment was pretty innocuous; the rest are to try to calm down round for the benefit of the town and round himself. I'm not the one trying to distract town with useless material. I'm actually done here. I'll be returning with a content-filled post tomorrow instead of clogging up the thread and the town agenda with this garbage. What does Ketomai do in the bolded statement? He attempts to deflect pressure off of himself and onto Round and other townies pushing him. Apparently, Round and company are "trying to distract the town with useless material". This is just another snippet of Keto calling the points on him bad and putting the pressure back onto people he doesn't even believe are mafia. After these posts Ketomai takes a large haitus, KoC mafia gets lynched. I actually don't mind some of the posts that ensue. The reads on Sinani and Exo aren't out of the question, and I don't disagree with some of the brief analysis, but it is nothing stunning to me. He steps up his play which is a +1 in his favor. But I don't like this post: On June 14 2014 03:43 ketomai wrote: Don't have time to look into it but isn't this strange? Blues don't typically want to stand out. Generally they want to be indistinguishable to green townies. Even if you're town and you think he's a vigi, why would you attempt to identify him for the mafia? If you really thought he was a vigi, it'd actually be best to leave him be because he's useful to the mafia at the moment. The comment was totally unnecessary. If you're mafia, this could easily be a way to defend a fellow mafia by looking like you're doing work for the town and contributing when all you're doing is helping confuse people further. Let MZ defend himself. Blue talk, seems ironic that we shouldn't be talking about MZ being the vig, yet Keto is talking about MZ being the vig. Seems like an easy attack on MiF though. If MiF is town I really won't like this post. Some useless bussing speculation that won't have any relevance unless marv survives until endgame. Noticed this contradiction too: Keto's read on Koshi day 1: On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote: Koshi: Leaning slightly towards mafia. Biggest flag is his lack of cooperation with town as noted by others. He doesn't really argue, he just tries to pass off his viewpoints on the grounds that it should be obvious. I'm willing to wait on how he responds now that he's under pressure now and after he's promised to be more cooperative, however. He hasn't really contributed much other than defending himself. Also, I disagree with pretty much everything he says, but that doesn't really make him more or less mafia. Keto's take on Koshi day 2: On June 15 2014 23:39 ketomai wrote: And your accusations read like garbage (and it's not just me). I don't really care what you think because you don't even have a legit case because you're misreading (literally) almost everything. This is the last question I answer from you: I have not looked into Koshi. I also can't tell because people have said he's had a history of being stupid. His day 1 votes look town. His day 2 vote looks a little strange since he defended kush before and he's also made a play to swing the bandwagon momentum in a huge way for a shitty reason. I pretty much started ignoring him after his first content post. Keto leans mafia on Koshi day 1, but then on Day 2 he claims that Koshi's votes looked town? I assume Keto means Koshi ended up on KoC day 1, which indicates town. But previously, Keto was explaining how easy of a bus KoC could have been. Seems odd to me. What is most intriguing to me are these two sentences: "His day 2 vote looks a little strange since he defended kush before and he's also made a play to swing the bandwagon momentum in a huge way for a shitty reason. I pretty much started ignoring him after his first content post". Ketomai claims that he "pretty much started ignoring him after his first content post", and that he "hasn't looked into Koshi". But, somehow he knows EXACTLY what Koshi has been doing. He knows Koshi had a day 2 vote on Kush. He knows he made a play to swing bandwagon momentum for a 'shitty reason'. How can Ketomai know these things, and have an opinion on them, if he HASN'T LOOKED INTO KOSHI. How can he say this if he STARTED IGNORING HIM AFTER HIS FIRST CONTENT POST. Also, why would you ignore someone you originally had a scumread on? Day 1 Koshi was slightly scum, and Keto wanted to look more into him. This seems like a terrible incongruity and a lie. I like these reasons for Ketomai being mafia. His day 1 play was incredibly mafia-looking, and some of the stuff that's followed has either been null or mafia-oriented to me. ##Vote: Ketomai | ||
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1) Day 1 play can be characterized as safe conjecture. Some posts felt like homework to Batsnacks, felt like little content for a lot of words / fluff. 2) Day 2 abysmal plays. Pops in right after I give my case on TownHaru, bolsters it, but does not back it up with a vote. Comes in many many hours later to post "Hey guys, what's up?" Then leaves for another 12 hours. Comes back and wastes his vote. Chairman claims that he hadn't read Haru's defense, and that's why he didn't vote. Clearly CR had time to read his defense if he comes in to post "Hey guys" randomly and ask what he should look at. He was around. 3) CR doesn't seem to care about the game at all. Seems like mafia just coasting by this game without doing anything of consequence to further a town agenda, and just voting to stay safe. | ||
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Also fuck this game if MiF is actually town I'm fucking disappointed, aren't those guys supposed to be amazing at this game? You know what? We actually need to lynch the shit out of him. If he's town and he doesn't care enough to stop his own mislynch that's playing against his wincon. ##Unvote: ##Vote: MattisFoolish I'm sick of people not playing the game and making themselves impossible to read. If you are town and lurking / trolling start playing the game. But everyone needs to do analysis and post reads and not JUST lynch a lurker. | ||
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On June 18 2014 00:20 marvellosity wrote: Really wish I'd gone through with killing mif yesterday. I really wish I would have just dropped haru and killed mif | ||
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I want to see where this goes. MiF is TWO reputable players and has 1/10 the content of normal players with half the reputation. | ||
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On June 18 2014 00:28 marvellosity wrote: can you give any sort of reason why gumshoe shouldnt' be a wagon? Haven't even read his posts but i will rn | ||
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Being from Canada is pretty awful tbh, he's at a natural disadvantage :p | ||
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On June 18 2014 00:43 marvellosity wrote: in an ideal world, that'd make them both mafia Exactly what I was thinking. | ||
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Also what do people think about the keto case? Does the lie portion make sense? | ||
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red check nets us mafia 100% because there are no framers or millers. so either the cop is fake or check is real. just a random thought. ermagerd blue talk scumeh | ||
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implying it isnt already stupid | ||
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If you know what i mean :p | ||
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Do it, or those gay pride t-shirts i promised you? GONE. | ||
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On June 19 2014 05:08 marvellosity wrote: lol wtf. I never knew ctrl-r was a thing. haha. +1 me either | ||
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On June 19 2014 05:55 strongandbig wrote: Would you have preferred nothing? That's your other optikn They were so arbitrary that it didn't seem like you were doing it because you were developing your reads as town, but just trying to get reads into the thread to say you have some. | ||
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On June 19 2014 06:01 roundabound wrote: Rainbows, if you're not vigi like you claimed to me in our hidden code in the thread, I'm going to lead a lynch against you. You better shoot soon. I didn't claim vigi, you must be thinking of your other hidden contacts. | ||
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On June 20 2014 04:31 ketomai wrote: I'm here, just been hella busy. I've contributed more than a lot of the people who are playing. I'll be able to play a bit more starting tomorrow and through the weekend. Apologies. Not really. | ||
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On June 16 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote: Updating where my reads are atm on everyone. Village: Tehpoofter Marv - obv, lock clear if he is a wolf we probably already lost Koshi - stepped it up considerably day 2 claiming vigi Roundabound - Casing my biggest wolf in ketomai, tone read on robik seems to be working on the village side Slam - sticking with my gut on slam probably least sure about this read ExO - Not use to the meta needs to step up more tonight/tomorrow if he wants to stay here he says he needs vote to analyse there has been plenty of that now ObiWanSmurf - Seemed to be following along at EoD and actively wanting to figure out who to kill actions seem to favor village. VA - Tried today a little bit seems to care at least moderately about the game and isn't just randomly throwing his vote on someone and afking for 48 hours Bunnies - replaced erradorr seems to have read up on the game and know where the thread is at. I find it hard for a wolf to replace into this spot and come out free talking like she is but her wolf game does fall off so look at her a bit tomorrow or the next day JAT - needs to stop sheeping marv only and find someone he thinks is wolf for his reasons. Lowest on the list because of a bit of weird interaction day 1 following marv's case on KoTC People who could be villagers: TicaTica - pushed hard on Haru at EoD if yamato is wolf insta lynch if yamato village he is okay until his EoD day 2 he was in the village not too worried but not green green. Rainbows - Tunneled a village that I read as wolf so good line of thinking but could be wolf pushing on a village would like to see where his reads are now Kush - kush is a hard read sounds like we might not need to worry about what alignment he is after tonight but if he lives need some improvement on activity. Chromatically - was going strong day one but has ended up off the wagon voting wise would love to see him EOD doing things as well as sticking out a bit more to me. I had him as village pretty hard day 1 but starting to think Koshi might be GOAT and pegged you day 1. ritoky - a bit too lurky his read on me wasn't awful and I don't blame him for the read although I'd like to see him evolve his reads a little bit more I'm kinda worried of a wolf who is just tunneling on some people unlikely to die to seem involved. People who need to talk about someone besides Kush: HF - Play the game your exam is over Kush is perhaps 1 of 5 wolves find the other 4 please. [pink]People who need to not be donkies with their votes and instead of just afking during EoD actually participate and try to convince other people they're right or wrong for some reason and not just stick a vote on someone and do shit all else: Batsnacks - I think your comment about your vote is legit one of the silliest things I've ever heard someone say about their voting patterns. Its almost too dumb to come from a wolf but I would still lynch you for it. You need to participate in the votes if you're a villager your vote makes a BIG difference EoD and if the village votes on 2-3 wagons only its harder for wolves to manipulate and makes analysis after we see some flips VERY useful. If you just vote one person and no one else you're not helping village EVEN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I wish there was more colors so I could make you pink) [/pink] Lurkers that need to post more presumed wolf until proven town: Would kill these people gumshoe - Day 1 played Day 2 went into full Afk mode step up or step out. Sandroba - You are suppose to be good, I don't see it afking as wolf is lame your play in catastrophe impressed me. (I will say this you live in brazil if I remember right so if you're involved in the world cup just tell us if that shit was where I live I wouldn't be playing this game I'd be off watching games and enjoying that once in a lifetime experience) SnB - was the day 1 counterwagon to a wolf I'm most hesitant about lynching you but you need to step up your game or you'll make me start thinking it was Vanilla wolf vs Power Wolf MattisFoolish - Foolish I expect more tbh the day 1 read on MZ was weak. Your day 2 EoD was pretty good but there is 2 of you and you're really not even doing what 1/2 a person would do. Matt Is also really bad at being a wolf so makes me a bit leery Sinani206 - I forgot you were in the game until I read the player list. I'm actually going to filter dive you after this and see where I end up you might be in the wrong spot tbh. yamato77 - Talked to you earlier you perked up for a bit and showed signs of life but thats not enoguh you need to play the game not just sheep marv nad come up with things I've seen you paly before and I know you're capable of helping village out please do so. Wolves: Ketomai - I didn't like the way he responded to Round's case yesterday. He also has stated several times before that there was no case on him despite myself making a big case on him including a photo and everything which he ignored. I also don't see his reads evolving like I would expect a town's to evolve. I will be making a much larger case later but this is just a reads post. Chariman Ray - Vote on erradorr - IS MEGA SKETCHY you don't seemed concerned with solving the game. I will be doing a bit more on him later after Ketomai as well but want to keep this wall of text less wall more text. Banks, never forget! These reads are still valid imo. One of Sinani / Keto is almost certainly mafia. Keto was objectively scummy D1 and has afk'd ever since the start of D3. But, I don't like how Sinani has been pushing the Keto wagon with little reasoning, just +1ing cases made by townies like Round and myself. Might even be mafia together, as sinani didn't hard push anything, just pushed on a futile keto lynch D3. CR is a good choice for mafia. Has been since day 1. SnB is another good choice. Him flipping red would make the shenanigans D1 make more sense, because the wagon on kotc felt too easy. He also defending sandroba / mif day 2 needlessly, but didnt hesitate to vote for him day 3. Also be wary of the million other lurkers out there. Ritoky / Yamato / bunnies still skeptical of these. | ||
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On June 20 2014 04:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: hf i dont get how you can scumread someone for tunneling people. like i made a big deal of this before and chrom/rainbows are still scumreading and fighting each other practically every time theyre in the thread, so whats the difference between ritoky and them? are you even reading this game | ||
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On June 20 2014 04:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: hf i dont get how you can scumread someone for tunneling people. like i made a big deal of this before and chrom/rainbows are still scumreading and fighting each other practically every time theyre in the thread, so whats the difference between ritoky and them? So, Obi, care to explain this? | ||
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On June 20 2014 05:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote: no. the fact that other people are agreeing with me means that im not the only one that sees it either. i seriously dont get what the issue is. On June 20 2014 04:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: hf i dont get how you can scumread someone for tunneling people. like i made a big deal of this before and chrom/rainbows are still scumreading and fighting each other practically every time theyre in the thread, so whats the difference between ritoky and them? let me narrow that down for you. CARE TO CLARIFY THIS | ||
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You are obviously not even reading the game and need to be lynched asap. You literally just made the chrom/rainbows scumreading thing up. | ||
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Point to me where me and chrom scumread each other everytime we are in the thread. I've had chrom as town for most of the game. | ||
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Do you understand? I want you to feel what i feel. Luckily, we have the same scumreads. | ||
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Just lynch bunnies. this is a good thing. | ||
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n1 chrom green n2 bunny red n3 yamato green | ||
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On June 17 2014 04:48 ritoky wrote: Well I promised reads, then I fell asleep. So here they are, as much as I can fit in before I have to go: Top town circle: Koshi, JAT, Marv Other town peoples: ExO_, TicaTica, roundabound The tri-fecta or weird feelings: Holyflare, Tehpoofter, VayneAuthority - These three (Holyflare the least of the 3) are fence leaning scum for me based on a couple of things; the first being a very odd interaction in the game. Holyflare begins to make a list of mostly unproductive/inactive people that he wants to lynch, which isn't out of character for him. Although in cell mafia he was yelling at inactives and criticizing people a lot more for lack of reading comprehension, so there's something to be said for that. Anyways, Holyflare posts this: To which I point out, if he is making that list then why did he omit VayneAuthority: And to be fair, I could very easily believe that which is why I feel this interaction is the least weird for Holy, although he is far less critical than the last time when he was town in cell. However now we get to the strange part. VA comes back to the thread because there is a slight bit of discussion about him and posts this: Then doesn't address a single thing and just leaves again, which gave me very strange feelings about him; but it was really set off when this happened. This read is bullshit to me. 1st, I don't see where the hell VA tried at all today; and I also don't see the level of caring. This is a forced read with very little justification to me. And I had a meta read on you yesterday as being "wolfy"; and this read just made me begin to trust that read a little more. I wouldn't be surprised if banks and VA are wolves together in the slightest. No bueno people - Chairman Ray - His votes don't line up with his play. He said he had a case on roundabound and Haru, yet he didn't really push those cases at all. He doesn't really seem to be hunting scum, and I read a lot of his posts as very passive. - Sinani - Was active, then got criticized for his play and got called scum and as a result has responded with shallow posts and inactivity. Makes me believe he is trying to hide. At one point I forgot he was even in the game. - Ketomai - I read a lot of his posts as summarizing, recaping, and saying a lot of non-committal information. Seems be going out of his way to remain Switzerland-like. Kill him with fire: Chromatically - Tried that push to save his scum buddy, all of the stuff I listed earlier; he hasn't really done anything to redeem himself in my eyes at all. He shoulda died so long ago it's not even funny. This is all I can do for now, as I have to go to work. I wanted to give reasons for town reads, but alas no time. If I am alive after the flip I will. What the fuck? This is way after n1. No way ritoky has a green check on chrom? | ||
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and chrom claims miller lelele | ||
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RITOKY CLAIMS GREEN CHECK ON CHROM THAT MAKES NO SENSE BECAUSE HE SAID TO LYNCH CHROM WITH FIRE ON PAGE 180 SOMETHING. ALSO CHROM IS TRACKER MILLER LEL | ||
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On June 21 2014 06:39 ExO_ wrote: thats fkin stupid hes a tracker tooIf you are miller, why didn't you claim at the start? | ||
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On June 17 2014 04:48 ritoky wrote: Well I promised reads, then I fell asleep. So here they are, as much as I can fit in before I have to go: Top town circle: Koshi, JAT, Marv Other town peoples: ExO_, TicaTica, roundabound The tri-fecta or weird feelings: Holyflare, Tehpoofter, VayneAuthority - These three (Holyflare the least of the 3) are fence leaning scum for me based on a couple of things; the first being a very odd interaction in the game. Holyflare begins to make a list of mostly unproductive/inactive people that he wants to lynch, which isn't out of character for him. Although in cell mafia he was yelling at inactives and criticizing people a lot more for lack of reading comprehension, so there's something to be said for that. Anyways, Holyflare posts this: To which I point out, if he is making that list then why did he omit VayneAuthority: And to be fair, I could very easily believe that which is why I feel this interaction is the least weird for Holy, although he is far less critical than the last time when he was town in cell. However now we get to the strange part. VA comes back to the thread because there is a slight bit of discussion about him and posts this: Then doesn't address a single thing and just leaves again, which gave me very strange feelings about him; but it was really set off when this happened. This read is bullshit to me. 1st, I don't see where the hell VA tried at all today; and I also don't see the level of caring. This is a forced read with very little justification to me. And I had a meta read on you yesterday as being "wolfy"; and this read just made me begin to trust that read a little more. I wouldn't be surprised if banks and VA are wolves together in the slightest. No bueno people - Chairman Ray - His votes don't line up with his play. He said he had a case on roundabound and Haru, yet he didn't really push those cases at all. He doesn't really seem to be hunting scum, and I read a lot of his posts as very passive. - Sinani - Was active, then got criticized for his play and got called scum and as a result has responded with shallow posts and inactivity. Makes me believe he is trying to hide. At one point I forgot he was even in the game. - Ketomai - I read a lot of his posts as summarizing, recaping, and saying a lot of non-committal information. Seems be going out of his way to remain Switzerland-like. Kill him with fire: Chromatically - Tried that push to save his scum buddy, all of the stuff I listed earlier; he hasn't really done anything to redeem himself in my eyes at all. He shoulda died so long ago it's not even funny. This is all I can do for now, as I have to go to work. I wanted to give reasons for town reads, but alas no time. If I am alive after the flip I will. Oh hey guys i have a n1 green check on chrom LYNCH WITH FIRE LOL | ||
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TELLS TOWN TO LYNCH HIM WITH FIRE #1 SCUMREAD SEEMS LEGIT | ||
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LOL | ||
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#TLMAFIA | ||
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if he is town game is pretty much over imo. And we would lose this game because all town is lurkobg or fakeclaiming like mafia | ||
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i dont like snb regardless of flips. | ||
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On June 21 2014 08:11 strongandbig wrote: maybe i dont like you very much either did you thinkof that? But im 100% town. You are not. | ||
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i want to LaL badly though. | ||
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only backtracked once counterclaimed | ||
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this game is ass. | ||
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On June 21 2014 11:42 Chairman Ray wrote: how would you feel if i told you that you were town? i swear to god if you are the cop ray and youd be telling me something i knew day 1 | ||
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ive had snb/cr/keto/sinani on my scum list since d1 but cant lynch them because too busy lynching mif/sandroba/gumshoe and haru who acted scummy as fk as town. plz towns can win but only if you just prove you are toen guyss | ||
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Id also vote him. | ||
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##vote keto | ||
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how stupid | ||
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just drop a random vote and dontnpost. | ||
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town lost because half the town was afk/modkilled/claimed cop | ||
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CR snb also good picks. chance of Obi or bunnies. who else can be mafia? i onky have round and marv confirmed town | ||
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damn you fooliahness/sandroba/gum | ||
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oh well. round is mason btw. idc anymore thats all the info i have and why he is confirmed town to me. rip round. | ||
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