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On June 04 2014 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 23:39 yamato77 wrote:
I knew someone would do just that, Mocsta.
Oh you Aussies and your particularities. What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
Hmm, darthpunk feels very touchy to me.
*warning: do not touch or else*
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On June 05 2014 00:50 DarthPunk wrote:
i was just playing around with the kids.
u srs
cant smell srs from your bsns
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On June 08 2014 21:47 batsnacks wrote:
I'm getting bad vibes.
Call me masochist but I like it when there are conflicting personalities.
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On June 11 2014 18:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 12:51 Rainbows wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 09:20 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote:
I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason:
I think my towns are town.
My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them? Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me. If Koshi is heading out for the night, I'm just gonna chime in now. Koshi's big analysis post reads pretty scummy to me. His mafia reads seem pretty sincere and thought out, but his town reads are very short. Whether or not he believes them himself is not evident, but it doesn't convey much to the reader. My initial thinking is that his townreads serve to 'bulk' up his post. I've seen a lot of mafia in previous games iterate through people and give a quick impression of them without a well thought out read on them. This gives the impression that they are active and their posts are longer without actually having to do a lot of investigation. What strikes me odd was his next post: Koshi posted this in response to the people that were dismissive of his reads. This is a very important distinction because people react differently when they are opposed by analysis and when they are opposed by a one liner. In this case, most people just posted a quick one liner dismissing him. From Koshi's perspective, if he just gave out a few quick impressions without a lot of thought, he wouldn't have any sort of attachment or loyalty to his post. His response to the critics would be something like "Those were just my gut feelings at the moment, they may change by the end of the day". Instead, he dismissed the critics with a one liner post containing no new information by posting "No sorry my towns are town". It may be hard to read into on forum mafia, but to me he sounds a bit frustrated and doesn't feel his critics doesn't deserve any more than a one liner. If this is the case, then Koshi has some genuine belief of his townreads, and regardless of the quality of his reads or how he conveyed them, this seems more town to me.tl;dr I disagree with Koshi's townreads, even though I am among them; I disagree with Sandroba that Koshi is mafia. I don't get CR's goal with his postings. he comes to no conclusion, just that some post made koshi scummy but his next post made him more town. So is he mafia or town for CR at this point? I care not that CR is posting intelligently (this is a good thing!!!), but there's a bunch of text with seemingly no bite involved atm yes, i agree with this i think.
I read through 30+ pages of 'stuff' and the huge post by koshi and the reads off koshi's posts were striking to me.
CR seems like trying to earn some towncred by pointing out koshi first, so that in the future he can use this as a reference to how towny he is.
Town totem: Chrom, batsnacks.
Everyone else is hard to read. They make towny posts, then destroy their own image by making themselves look scummy.
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##Vote: Koshi
I'll settle with a d1 koshi lynch until someone posts more scummy than koshi
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Batsnacks would make a bad policeman
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By being so controversal, you're ultimately ignored and become blended into the crowds of foolishness?
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On June 11 2014 19:42 batsnacks wrote:
Why did you feel the need to filter dive Palmar right now?
#tryhard
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On June 11 2014 19:35 Bill Murray wrote:I'm not changing my play. I'm going to continue analyzing and look to lynch a lurker. Mafia will give a lot of information based upon wagons come later days. D3 is a time when we can analyze the first wagons (d1 and d2) and get a ton of information. While it's not beneficial to lynch for information now, it helps us laterThese first 3 have yet to post. The First 2 Havent posted in 10+ days Erandorr - likely modkill gumshoe - likely modkill StrongandBig - likely lurking mafiaRitoky - isn't reading the thread. feels like town in his 1 post I remember him making + Show Spoiler +ritoky=vt-idiottownlikely-villageidiot i'd label the spoiler as his alignment/class of his play if you held a gun to my head Rainbows - from lurker to having a lot of content in a few pages... have a townlean on him thekingofcats - same as ritoky, but i liked his entrance less for being town... perhaps he is just more withdrawn and intelligent... yeah, i just went and filter dove him. His 1 post is similar to the Ritoky case of lurkerism and lack of reading, but he shows some comprehension he says "ive caught up" but then indicates he may not have actually read the entire thread. he then goes onto posting a decent analysis, so i view him as being more intelligent than Mattchew/Foolish-hydra (mattisfoolish) - Palmar - this is someones filter i want to expand on. i'm going to filter dive him right now.
I do not advocate an information lynch since it is mostly for the 'future', which can change so quickly that the info may not hold.
at least, a policy lynch keeps people in line.
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On June 11 2014 20:46 yamato77 wrote:I'll quote Ver's analysis RE: VA Show nested quote +-I don’t think I’ve verbalized my intuition fully on Vayne so here goes: Terrible filter, fits mafia profile (deduced from atmosphere/limited interference in lynches) exactly. Ever present but barely playing. Constantly complains about the thread quality but spends all of his time talking about blue roles and irrelevant nonsense, which is a massive incongruency. Caller’s point quoted above is also very good.
And what has he done so far this game? Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
alrighty well the thread is already too long so I just skipped it, I assume its mostly early game spam. I'll start reading from this point on.
Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
this game is giving me a migraine ill let you know when i start reading it again While I agree with the sentiment expressed, it's still the same sort of hypocritical nonsense that Ver so accurately pointed out. VA as mafia loves to complain and argue about pointless shit. VA as town would have just posted what he thought about someone/something, right or wrong, and been done with it. Of course, it's only two posts, but it's a solid lead. ##Vote: VayneAuthorityI'll be looking at Koshi and Chairman more in depth soon. I think they are town, but there is sentiment expressed that this is not the case, and I wish to solve the matter.
Uh.... you seemed to miss the point. Ver used BOTH points as a combination of factors. Even if VA is about to turn into a blue post craping whore, the truth is he haven't. You either jumped the gun too early, or you are trying to shoot him before he turned, which leads into 2 outcomes : 1) He WILL turn 2)You are just trying to shoot for the heck of it.
On June 11 2014 20:52 yamato77 wrote:Oh yeah, by the way, this is exactly what mafia Holyflare does. He afks for most of the early game, and then comes in later with all his tryhard worked up. See Survivor for a perfect example. I theorize that he does this as mafia because he finds it difficult to post early on as mafia (which is a tricky thing to do convincingly), so he just skips it, takes the heat for being afk, and then makes up for it with his ability to post long posts full of reasonable-sounding things later on. He could be legitimately busy, but his posts show he's obviously reading the thread, just not actively participating. Regardless of the manner of his return, he is definitely up there in terms of mafia candidates for this sort of play, simply given his history with this exact pattern.
Uh... stop?
On June 11 2014 20:53 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 20:49 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 20:46 yamato77 wrote:I'll quote Ver's analysis RE: VA -I don’t think I’ve verbalized my intuition fully on Vayne so here goes: Terrible filter, fits mafia profile (deduced from atmosphere/limited interference in lynches) exactly. Ever present but barely playing. Constantly complains about the thread quality but spends all of his time talking about blue roles and irrelevant nonsense, which is a massive incongruency. Caller’s point quoted above is also very good.
And what has he done so far this game? On June 11 2014 07:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
alrighty well the thread is already too long so I just skipped it, I assume its mostly early game spam. I'll start reading from this point on.
On June 11 2014 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
this game is giving me a migraine ill let you know when i start reading it again While I agree with the sentiment expressed, it's still the same sort of hypocritical nonsense that Ver so accurately pointed out. VA as mafia loves to complain and argue about pointless shit. VA as town would have just posted what he thought about someone/something, right or wrong, and been done with it. Of course, it's only two posts, but it's a solid lead. ##Vote: VayneAuthorityI'll be looking at Koshi and Chairman more in depth soon. I think they are town, but there is sentiment expressed that this is not the case, and I wish to solve the matter. you're completely missing the 2nd half of Ver's analysis, i.e. spending all his time talking about roles and other shit, which is the massive incongruency, and the incongruency is why he was mafia. That incongruency doesn't exist here because he's not doing anything else either. So using Ver to back up your read is pretty dodgerific I really have no interest in your opinion.
Stop.
On June 11 2014 20:53 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 20:53 Holyflare wrote:I have law exams that end tomorrow yamato  That doesn't mean you aren't mafia anyway.
I really mean it, stop.
On June 11 2014 20:56 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 20:53 marvellosity wrote:
then you're still fucking terrible. There still exists an incongruity. Vayne is complaining about the quality of the game yet is actually making it worse with the way he posts. Vayne's towngame does not consist of complaint posts. He doesn't care about the state of the thread when he's town. He just plays the game.
I'll quote Ver's analysis RE: VA
-I don’t think I’ve verbalized my intuition fully on Vayne so here goes: Terrible filter, fits mafia profile (deduced from atmosphere/limited interference in lynches) exactly. Ever present but barely playing. Constantly complains about the thread quality but spends all of his time talking about blue roles and irrelevant nonsense, which is a massive incongruency. Caller’s point quoted above is also very good.
MASSIVE INCONGRUENCY.
On June 11 2014 21:04 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 20:59 Holyflare wrote:On June 11 2014 20:56 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:55 Holyflare wrote:On June 11 2014 20:53 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:53 Holyflare wrote:I have law exams that end tomorrow yamato That doesn't mean you aren't mafia anyway. Silly sausage! If i don't post it's because i have a reason  We'll see. Well no because now if i return with try hard you will say "see! Classic mafia". If i don't you'll say "he doesn't care, classic mafia!" If you're going to use meta don't use unequivocally wrong ones. Or you can just be mafia and continue with it. If you don't have time to play, then why are you arguing with me about your alignment right now? I don't have to believe your reasons for your inactivity. And no, my analysis of your play so far involves no catch-22, because your being afk as mafia happens exclusively in the early game. Later in the game, you obviously play legitimately. You might be afk early on as town and then come back and play legitimately. But noting the pattern is important because it's a 30 player game, so I need to narrow my focus down to a small enough range of people to where I really don't have to analyze every post.
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On June 11 2014 21:04 yamato77 wrote:
tl;dr I'm watching you, HF
I'M WATCHING YOU YAMATO.
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Calling everyone scrubs for not agreeing with his view.... Hmmm...
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On June 11 2014 23:27 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 23:17 Rainbows wrote:
i dont see a reason for mafia HF not to just peace out till thursday and stick to that. This seems inherently more scummy, but so obviously scummy that he probably wouldn't do it as scum. lol I'm not so sure. If you are the mafia, you've got all the power. You're in control of the game, and you know it (and nobody else knows it). I think he could very easily just be an overconfident mafia
Well, everyone thinks that way, if you play with such obvious stuff, there's no way you're mafia.
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Exo joins me on my town totem.
Town totem:
Chrom
Exo
batsnacks
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On June 12 2014 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Either I am really wrong or everybody else is really wrong.
I am going to go with everybody else.
Lol
This beautiful example of a post by koshi is the very reason why people do one liner replies such as 'lol'.
I seriously dislike this 'everyone is an idiot' attitude from koshi. Do something more productive other than smearing shit all over the thread like marv is.
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On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.
I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.
All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.
My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.
##Vote:Chairman Ray
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On June 12 2014 05:26 ExO_ wrote:
Gumshoe, I don't see what makes you think I'm afraid to give out opinions on people. I think the vast majority of what's happening so far is silly speculation based on virtually nothing. I have no desire to join the super psycho-analyst club and explain why every little post means you either scum or town. When I've had opinions on people I've voiced them so far.
Though I think the early banter may serve a purpose, people are way to full of themselves if they honestly believe they can discern mafia based on whats happened so far. When I have something to add, I'll add it.
Different places have different meta, I guess. On the mafias that I used to play (warcraft 3 custom map mafia), the meta was to shittalk as much as you can d1 and lynch the guy who is the most serious. Tl mafia's meta is to over analyse everyone d1, get on a policy lynch wagon and cry.
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On June 12 2014 05:33 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:32 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:26 ExO_ wrote:
Gumshoe, I don't see what makes you think I'm afraid to give out opinions on people. I think the vast majority of what's happening so far is silly speculation based on virtually nothing. I have no desire to join the super psycho-analyst club and explain why every little post means you either scum or town. When I've had opinions on people I've voiced them so far.
Though I think the early banter may serve a purpose, people are way to full of themselves if they honestly believe they can discern mafia based on whats happened so far. When I have something to add, I'll add it. Different places have different meta, I guess. On the mafias that I used to play (warcraft 3 custom map mafia), the meta was to shittalk as much as you can d1 and lynch the guy who is the most serious. Tl mafia's meta is to over analyse everyone d1, get on a policy lynch wagon and cry. Don't shit-talk something you don't understand. TL towns over the past 6-9 months have had an abnormally high hit-rate on mafia day 1.
Probably because of this pressure that is put on votes, causing overreaction for some who are not used to it.
By how this thread is developing, I doubt we will get a good d1 lynch outside of a policy lynch on a mafia. Not enough materials to work on.
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On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually
Hmm.
*looks at Haru*
hmmmmmm
Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit.
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On June 12 2014 05:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:37 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually
Hmm.
*looks at Haru*
hmmmmmm Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit. first game or not, the difference is striking. how would you say your 'meta' is changing, then?
For example, I've learnt through the death of JWZ that d1 is simply a day to collect info. Thus I'll try all means to collect info on d1, throw it out in a giant ball on n1 or d2 (depending if I survive the night) and home in on targets d2.
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On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.
Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.
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On June 12 2014 05:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:40 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:38 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 05:37 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually
Hmm.
*looks at Haru*
hmmmmmm Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit. first game or not, the difference is striking. how would you say your 'meta' is changing, then? For example, I've learnt through the death of JWZ that d1 is simply a day to collect info. Thus I'll try all means to collect info on d1, throw it out in a giant ball on n1 or d2 (depending if I survive the night) and home in on targets d2. that's a totally incorrect lesson to take. Also not what I was referring to with regards to how you're playing. Anyway I'm going to sit on this for a while and see what happens. I'm pretty tempted to vote for you though, which I guess must be quite annoying for you because i haven't specified why. but i'm not going to right now. maybe i should read your filter ;D
What defines a correct lesson exactly?
From my 1 game experience, I already know not to streamline my play to town|haru or scum|haru so that people can go 'town|haru dont do this so hes scum'. Meta is what I fear.
You can say I play pessimistic this game and that will be correct. I would have lost the previous game if I let others influence me into a mislynch. (Nothing to do with amiko).
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On June 12 2014 05:47 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:40 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:38 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 05:37 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually
Hmm.
*looks at Haru*
hmmmmmm Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit. first game or not, the difference is striking. how would you say your 'meta' is changing, then? For example, I've learnt through the death of JWZ that d1 is simply a day to collect info. Thus I'll try all means to collect info on d1, throw it out in a giant ball on n1 or d2 (depending if I survive the night) and home in on targets d2. Haru, did you just claim power role?
Why are you more interested in theorizing if I claimed a power role over the actual message? Hmm...
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If power role is the only thing you see, scum is the only thing I see.
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On June 12 2014 05:54 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:40 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:26 ExO_ wrote:
Gumshoe, I don't see what makes you think I'm afraid to give out opinions on people. I think the vast majority of what's happening so far is silly speculation based on virtually nothing. I have no desire to join the super psycho-analyst club and explain why every little post means you either scum or town. When I've had opinions on people I've voiced them so far.
Though I think the early banter may serve a purpose, people are way to full of themselves if they honestly believe they can discern mafia based on whats happened so far. When I have something to add, I'll add it. Ultimately Exo, this is a game / : and I often feel like town players get that, but scum don't as a result of the fear we impose on them. A reluctance to post reads as fear to me but I've never played you before so I won't pretend as if I really know what your thinking. That said, I feel it's unfair of you to amount all that's been said to psycho analyst banter ) : a lot of interesting valid things have been said by your peers and if none of it appeals to you why are you playing this game? Speaking of which, your goal in this match is two fold, it is not enough to find scum, you have to prove to us that your town so that by the time you do offer up your true accusations we trust you enough to follow. that's why we all offer these reads ( even if they're not perfect) as opposed to hoarding our suspicions like menacing house wives. mmmm but I feel almost like it's rude to voice without good reasoning. For example, JAT has posted barely anything worthwhile imo, rarely posting more than a single sentence. I don't feel like he's doing anything to contribute towards town, and is just generally stirring things up while sitting back. But I don't have any major disagreements with the things he's saying, nor do I feel like me scrutinizing him is justified in this case as I have nothing really to go on. So I haven't said anything. Anybody else keeping up with the thread can clearly read what I'm reading and can make their own judgements on him. There's nothing I feel like I've noticed that needs to be voiced. Everybody else seems to have a better feel for everybody else, having played them in other games; this is my first game so I'm getting my first reads on everybody right now. I don't think it's fair for me to voice every thought and possibility that occurs to me just yet because I don't know everybody. I'm still forming my opinions, and I'd hate to undermine my ability to argue what I think later because I committed to an opinion too early (that I later changed my mind on.)
Don't lump me together with them, this is my second game here and I only played with chrom, who died quick. (Shot d1). I literally have no meta reads on anyone too.
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On June 12 2014 06:01 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:52 HaruRH wrote:
If power role is the only thing you see, scum is the only thing I see. So, you do or you don't understand why I thought you just claimed power role? Also medic on Haru please.
Spell it out for me.
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I still dont get your point batsnacks.
We have 24 hours of night, why cant I post my thoughts then? Why does it lead to a blue claim for stating that ill post my stuff on n1?
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On June 12 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote:
Very sneaky voting man this Haru.
I thought I said the vote on CR from me was a placeholder? SnB have some weird posts, will link them here in one sec, Filter dived him today.
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After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:
On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically
Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum
On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows
soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.
On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .
Then he shitposts.
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On June 12 2014 19:27 marvellosity wrote:
So I've removed about half the game from my lynch pool:
Obiwan, Koshi, sinani, poofter, BM, gumshoe, roundabound, Palmar, batsnacks, yamato, Chromatically (pending meta check) because i think they're townish to varying degrees
then there's like sandroba, foolish, Holy, slam, Exo who I don't want to lynch atm for varying reasons (more time for 1&2&3, crapshoot for 4, good chance newbie town for 5)
So that leaves ritoky, rainbows, jat, MZ, Erandorr, kush, Kingofcats, CR, Haru, s&b, Tica, ketomai, Vayne
I could reasonably remove Erandor, kush, Vayne as total crapshoots similar to Slam (who was on a different list simply due to quantity of posting)
that leaves ritoky, rainbows, jat, MZ, kingofcats, CR, Haru, s&b, Tica, ketomai
as a stab i think i'd maybe want to leave tica, jat, rainbows alone today.
so ritoky, MZ, kingofcats, CR, haru, s&b, ketomai
probably i should concentrate mostly in that list.
Any reasons why I am included in this list?
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On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.
So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads.
Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol
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On June 12 2014 20:29 Palmar wrote:
He might be just doing the ego, you know, he did play well last game.
:< no ego involved lol. But I am definitely trying out a different style this game.
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On June 12 2014 20:47 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol well if i thought you had been at all useful besides, the meta wouldn't matter...
Hey marv if you wanna meta me, you need to re-read my posts to even use it as meta
Heres a short little rap by me to show you what I mean
On May 27 2014 12:07 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 12:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 12:01 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly I dont understand how this post had anything to do with what my case was on him? Nothing to do with it at all, just a crap post with no meaning other than for jabber to not feel so awkward with every post he makes To me, it seemed as if you were coaching him to change the topic in order to get pressure off of him. Why would you want to do that? I play with no targets in mind For the first day where it is still fun I only suspect But I do not attack I will not paint a target on the first day Because tails only show at night And thus we can hang those who Are deduced to be one next day No need to pressure in the first day, in my view Lynching him is still our aim, thus I will
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On June 12 2014 20:58 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 20:57 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:47 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol well if i thought you had been at all useful besides, the meta wouldn't matter... Hey marv if you wanna meta me, you need to re-read my posts to even use it as meta Heres a short little rap by me to show you what I mean On May 27 2014 12:07 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 12:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 12:01 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly I dont understand how this post had anything to do with what my case was on him? Nothing to do with it at all, just a crap post with no meaning other than for jabber to not feel so awkward with every post he makes To me, it seemed as if you were coaching him to change the topic in order to get pressure off of him. Why would you want to do that? I play with no targets in mind For the first day where it is still fun I only suspect But I do not attack I will not paint a target on the first day Because tails only show at night And thus we can hang those who Are deduced to be one next day No need to pressure in the first day, in my view Lynching him is still our aim, thus I will i have no idea what you're trying to say. i don't care for you sitting around arguing with me about your previous game.
I have no idea what are you trying to do here too marv. Firstly, you scumread me for not playing like the last game, to which I explain nothing much changed except for my attitude, even citing examples, and yet you dont care about arguing about my previous game....???
In what way are you supposed to be useful on d1? I'm not the type to scumread people based on 2 real life day worth of content, with no methods of deducing anything at all. Not everyone play like you all do.
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On June 12 2014 21:06 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 21:05 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:58 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 20:57 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:47 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol well if i thought you had been at all useful besides, the meta wouldn't matter... Hey marv if you wanna meta me, you need to re-read my posts to even use it as meta Heres a short little rap by me to show you what I mean On May 27 2014 12:07 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 12:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 12:01 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly I dont understand how this post had anything to do with what my case was on him? Nothing to do with it at all, just a crap post with no meaning other than for jabber to not feel so awkward with every post he makes To me, it seemed as if you were coaching him to change the topic in order to get pressure off of him. Why would you want to do that? I play with no targets in mind For the first day where it is still fun I only suspect But I do not attack I will not paint a target on the first day Because tails only show at night And thus we can hang those who Are deduced to be one next day No need to pressure in the first day, in my view Lynching him is still our aim, thus I will i have no idea what you're trying to say. i don't care for you sitting around arguing with me about your previous game. I have no idea what are you trying to do here too marv. Firstly, you scumread me for not playing like the last game, to which I explain nothing much changed except for my attitude, even citing examples, and yet you dont care about arguing about my previous game....??? In what way are you supposed to be useful on d1? I'm not the type to scumread people based on 2 real life day worth of content, with no methods of deducing anything at all. Not everyone play like you all do. if i have zero reason to think you are town, you are a valid lynch target. it's a very simple equation.
Then lynch me on d1 on the basis of not contributing. Simple.
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Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru.
Firstly, this haru guy don't even
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray
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On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting. Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.
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On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically
Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . Then he shitposts.
ALL.
Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself
On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol
Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH
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On June 13 2014 03:30 Chromatically wrote:ritoky's filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451310-tl-order-lxvi-mafia?user=ritokyritoky has talked about literally nothing else other than me (and occasionally MZ), which is absolutely ridiculous from a town perspective because I was never, in any world, getting lynched today. Every single one of his posts has to do with me. He doesn't give reads on lynch targets or people being discussed in the thread, he posts solely about me. Scum motivation: look like you're active and pushing a case, don't have to think about who you're voting until you "consolidate" at deadline, only have to maintain one read Town motivation: ??? You'll also notice that he never even pushes my case. He never tries to get other people to vote for me. As town, you would always try to get your one and only scumread lynched. As scum, you don't care, as long as you look active. Relatedly, he is only here when someone calls him out. Seriously. Look at his entire filter. It's either arguing with me, or arguing with marv. He always responds quickly when someone does call him out, but he never posts anything of his own accord. This is a 100% scum tactic. He's active lurking in the thread but doing nothing. He doesn't actually want to push the thread forward, he just cares about defending himself. His reasoning on me doesn't make sense (as I've said), because he doesn't actually believe it. What probably happened is that he saw Koshi's case on me and thought that I would be a good target to sheep onto, and then directly copied Koshi's reasoning from his case (explaining why his reasons are the same as Koshi's AND why he can't explain the TMI thing). Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 10:28 ritoky wrote:On June 12 2014 10:01 Chromatically wrote:On June 12 2014 09:49 ritoky wrote:On June 12 2014 09:35 Chromatically wrote:On June 12 2014 09:22 ritoky wrote:On June 12 2014 08:58 Chromatically wrote:
ritoky is a great second lynch if Koshi isn't happening. I like marv's point too.
I think I would go for a megalurker/someone who's not playing the game lynch after that. OMGUS, the scum hunting mindset you been talking about? Look, if you don't think that calling someone mafia for simply defending sianni (tiatica) qualifies you as having a strong read on sianni, then it is a difference of definitions. I think the proof is easily read in your filter. How is it a difference of definitions if I'm scum? Wouldn't it be me purposefully misrepresenting my play? Because I feel that the case I have already made follows very easily if you view what you gave as a strong read. I think you did. I can say it again, but it isn't going to change. I think you gave a disproportionately strong read on sianni from a pretty inconclusive response (I thought it was slightly scummy at best). In order to make said conclusion from not very much I feel you have extra information. The only people with extra information right now are mafia. Since then you've done nothing to alleviate my worries about you, you've been hard defending and OMGUSing (which is completely contrary to the scum hunting mindset you were critical of sianni for). And how is this not the exact same thing that you were critical of sianni for? On June 12 2014 09:41 Chromatically wrote:
I think ketomai totally depends on what he posts next. The thing that happened in thread could have easily been a townie startled by people jumping on him before he starts playing. I agree that it's weird that he feels like he has to vote between round and Exo, but it's not really scummy..? He could have easily left his vote on himself and that would draw less attention.
What he posts next is the important part. On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:
Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. You just did the same exact non-committal thing. "Could be red, wait and see what happens"; that's not the scum hunting mindset you were preaching. Once again, your extra information thing doesn't make sense. The only way I would have extra information about sinani that would give me a "too strong" read would be if we were scum together. The difference between what I posted and what sinani posted is that ketomai has probably not started playing the game yet, making trying to read him rather pointless. sinani's read on JAT is completely noncommittal and overqualified, which you and many others have agreed on. Comparing what we posted doesn't say anything about my alignment anyway (at best it would make me a hypocrite), so there was really no reason at all for you to include this. You can call it OMGUS if it makes you feel better, but that doesn't make the points against you less strong. Anyway, I think this conversation is no longer useful at all and that I've made my case sufficiently clear. Your read is exactly the same as the bolded portion. And hypocrisy and inconsistency can be scum mindset indicators, so I think they are relevant. And personally I don't think you have a case, hence why I think it is an OMGUS. You're defensive and OMGUSing which is the opposite of the mindset you were pushing others to have. All of that just adds depth. When I point out here that his hypocrisy reasons don't make me scum, he says that they can be "scum mindset indicators" which is vague garbage. He can't explain why hypocrisy would make me scum because he can't, it doesn't. He's not actually thinking about if I'm scum, he's looking for things to justify his read. - does not do anything other than argue with/about me - active lurking until people call him out - doesn't actually push me for lynch - reasoning doesn't make sense This is like 100% scum.
you lied, I counted 2 posts out of 15 posts that doesn't include your name or your quotes.... hmm...
I'll sheep you for today because you're in my town totem.
##Unvote
##Vote: ritoky
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On June 13 2014 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
it's nothing to do with sheeping me
it's totally disappearing after being active when i made my case
it's not contributing anything to the thread while kotc wagon was taking place
it's lazy +1 of some random case later
No. I watched the world cup (after sheeping chrom because I dont have time to read) with friends and slept after that for 12 hours.
I have just finished catching up with the thread and will post my stuff later, when I'm on a computer.
Of course, you can choose not to believe me.
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On June 13 2014 19:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
it's nothing to do with sheeping me
it's totally disappearing after being active when i made my case
it's not contributing anything to the thread while kotc wagon was taking place
it's lazy +1 of some random case later No. I watched the world cup (after sheeping chrom because I dont have time to read) with friends and slept after that for 12 hours. I have just finished catching up with the thread and will post my stuff later, when I'm on a computer. Of course, you can choose not to believe me. World cup wasn't on during that time period. World cup opening ceremony wasn't until about 7pm my time
???
World cup started right when the lynch happened. I was already gone 1 hour before it.
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On June 13 2014 19:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:37 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:36 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
it's nothing to do with sheeping me
it's totally disappearing after being active when i made my case
it's not contributing anything to the thread while kotc wagon was taking place
it's lazy +1 of some random case later No. I watched the world cup (after sheeping chrom because I dont have time to read) with friends and slept after that for 12 hours. I have just finished catching up with the thread and will post my stuff later, when I'm on a computer. Of course, you can choose not to believe me. World cup wasn't on during that time period. World cup opening ceremony wasn't until about 7pm my time ??? World cup started right when the lynch happened. I was already gone 1 hour before it. That's not when I was talking about. I'm talking about how you were active RIGHT UP to the point I made my case on KotC and then you disappeared for many hours. Could well be coincidence. Could also not be.
Sorry, I had no interest to read any of your cases at that point because I was quite pissed. I don't even know the reason for lynching kotc, I just assumed what chrom said was true and it was a giant sheepfest.
coincidence or not, I believed my initial vote, snb to be more scummy and since everyone decided to go off the wagon, I chose chrom to sheep.
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On June 13 2014 19:42 Koshi wrote:
HaruRH
What new style of play are you trying out?
One that would have worked until marv decided to meta me for no reason lol
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On June 13 2014 19:44 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:42 Koshi wrote:
HaruRH
What new style of play are you trying out? One that would have worked until marv decided to meta me for no reason lol worked doing what?
I would have a scum suspect on d1 end/n1 itself. One that could be over 40% scum.
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On June 13 2014 19:44 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:42 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:38 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2014 19:37 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:36 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
it's nothing to do with sheeping me
it's totally disappearing after being active when i made my case
it's not contributing anything to the thread while kotc wagon was taking place
it's lazy +1 of some random case later No. I watched the world cup (after sheeping chrom because I dont have time to read) with friends and slept after that for 12 hours. I have just finished catching up with the thread and will post my stuff later, when I'm on a computer. Of course, you can choose not to believe me. World cup wasn't on during that time period. World cup opening ceremony wasn't until about 7pm my time ??? World cup started right when the lynch happened. I was already gone 1 hour before it. That's not when I was talking about. I'm talking about how you were active RIGHT UP to the point I made my case on KotC and then you disappeared for many hours. Could well be coincidence. Could also not be. Sorry, I had no interest to read any of your cases at that point because I was quite pissed. I don't even know the reason for lynching kotc, I just assumed what chrom said was true and it was a giant sheepfest. coincidence or not, I believed my initial vote, snb to be more scummy and since everyone decided to go off the wagon, I chose chrom to sheep. Snb was still an alternate wagon? Why abandon ship from someone you think is scummy to end up sheeping chrom. Chrom's points aren't particularly that great tbh.
He was not going to be lynched on d1 anyway, some people townread him and moved off the wagon.
I still had to vote, but d1 is not my day of scumreading since I usually sheep on d1. So between chrom, who I townread, versus some sheepfest, the choice was clear.
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On June 13 2014 19:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:46 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:44 Koshi wrote:On June 13 2014 19:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:42 Koshi wrote:
HaruRH
What new style of play are you trying out? One that would have worked until marv decided to meta me for no reason lol worked doing what? I would have a scum suspect on d1 end/n1 itself. One that could be over 40% scum. So what was this tactic?
I read scum based on votes. Not a surprise, but I'll read how the votes move and deduce the main scum suspect. Giant sheepfests usually destroy reads since everyone can jump onto the wagon and earn shiny towncreds.
However, suspects were made, albeit not as strong as expected. By sheeping on d1, I'll also be able to deduce the wagon starter's intentions.
With this, I cannot townread chrom anymore  I expected him to stay on his votes and thus show his dedication of trusting his own reads. However, shifting off to the wagon have led me to believe he is about 20% scum.
I have the biggest scum suspect ever, at 30%. Let me post it in a big ass post.
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It is really hard to post something pretty on phone T.T
Just a clarification on how my scum% system works, everyone starts off at 0% scum and the number increases through scum posts.
Firstly, I was observing how people jumped from roundabound -> koshi -> snb -> kotc. There were people who preferred to jump wagons at last minute, or stay on the wagon. These people were ignored since it is normal to do so.
However, 1 person did something striking to me. Rainbows initially sheeped the koshi vote. His reason was this:
+ Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 12:03 Rainbows wrote:As I was refreshing this thread on my phone while at work, a couple things I thought were interesting. First was Yamato's post here + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 09:27 yamato77 wrote:at p. 30, three posts I want to comment on Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 This case is not good. Sinani is not mafia for how he's played so far, and marv agreeing with Chrom about this read is suspicious. Do not like the sinani = mafia read at all. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. lol are you serious? This about sums up my thoughts on Robik. Not to be taken seriously. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote:
Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. That said, I don't like the case on him either, however I find this post to be a more reasonable and townie one than Chrom's post about sinani. tl;dr Chrom and Marv bad, sinani and robik not good lynches, Chairman townish. that I initially didn't find agreeable, because I was leaning town on Chrom (initial sinani pressure seemed good, overall posts seemed towny)Marv and Mocsta (roundabout) appeared to instantly pick up on the same thing I was feeling here: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 09:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 09:27 yamato77 wrote:at p. 30, three posts I want to comment on On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 This case is not good. Sinani is not mafia for how he's played so far, and marv agreeing with Chrom about this read is suspicious. Do not like the sinani = mafia read at all. On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. lol are you serious? This about sums up my thoughts on Robik. Not to be taken seriously. On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote:
Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. That said, I don't like the case on him either, however I find this post to be a more reasonable and townie one than Chrom's post about sinani. tl;dr Chrom and Marv bad, sinani and robik not good lynches, Chairman townish. you're bad because you fail at basic reading comprehension. go you. and here: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 09:30 roundabound wrote:
Yamato has to be scum; or a completely changed man
~moc . These responses by moc and marv make me feel better about them, because they were thinking what I was thinking as I read Yamato's post. Regardless of Yams alignment, I think marv and moc are towny because they were on the same wavelength as I. Similar reads on a post like this is a good indicator of who is playing for what team. I also noticed Koshi's post here: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself:ObiWanShinobi: Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted). + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
im just gonna sheep him forever. On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. On June 11 2014 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:50 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg Try English. And Logic. But, like, seriously, like, what does this, like, even, like, mean?.....Like roundabout, posting from what appears to be one of the moons of jupiter. very interesting. hows the weather up there? On June 11 2014 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
fuck i got town again. Gonna have to CC you hear I also rolled town. hi im poofter and i cannot english someone help : Not an awkward entrance. I am cool with CR. Also a case that looks coming from town . + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
Not everyone who townclaimed is town. I see them posting in my mafia QT. Stop lying guys. On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote:
Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. : Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote:Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game. : Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote:This is a really weird reaction from Palmar. If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:On June 11 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote:
I didn't get my role yet. Scumclaim. I know I'm mafia because I requested it and I also know I haven't received my role, so I can only assume that mafia gets roles sent last. Nailed you, bitch. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote:
Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb. On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared. Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote : Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him. tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote:
Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.
Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good. On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. ##Vote: sinani206 : Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll. On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote:
Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy. On June 11 2014 07:06 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. and therefore your conclusion? I think it's kinda scummy. I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books. Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik. well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though. Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity. , which I found underwhelming when concerning a bunch of null readers and disagreeable. We differ on Chrom reads apparently, but it looks like Koshi is soft-defending Sinani here. "Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No." Seems like a pretty bold statement for a supposed towny to make and be so assured of. He also voted tictac which is OK, but why not Chrom? spent more time discussing chrom than tic which I found to be odd. So yeah, I like chrom for early pressure and general posting, moc / marv seem to be on the same page as I am. Yamato seems a bit off, leaning maff. Koshi evul. Randoms reads. Bill Murray seems like a douche, but not mafia douche atm. Leaning somewhat townie douche. I'm OK with a douche as long as he doesn't bleed red. Chairman seems pretty well-structured to me, post on round appeals to a lot of logical assumptions. His koshi post goes from "his post seems scummy" to "he seems town", so i'm not sure what he's trying to do there.
A pretty normal reason to vote on koshi. However, his switch from koshi to snb was suspect. He jumped off the koshi wagon quite quickly after some people jumped off the wagon and leeched obto the snb wagon when it was just starting, and it seemed to be a potential wagon. This was his crappy reason.+ Show Spoiler + On June 12 2014 08:53 Rainbows wrote:
StrongandBig's posts thus far have been atrocious. Some summary, calls people stupid, and gives a very badly formed read on myself based on a bunch of unexplained "indications" that mean nothing.
I indicate SnB is mafia. Lynch with fire.
##Unvote: Koshi
##Vote: StrongandBig
This is obviously just a sheep post. At this point, he probably just wanted to sheep and gain easy towncreds if his sheep worked - but people jumped off snb into kotc vote. What I theorize is, if rainbows was unable to jump to kotc for 2 reasons: 1) he was scum and is unabls to vote for his scummate. 2) any more jumps and he will look suspicious.
These few suspect jumps and the kotc flip have led me to give rainbows a 30% scum rating. Post me qns about anyone who you want me to show my ratings and explanation.
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In comparison with his original reason for voting koshi, there was almost no effort in his choice for voting snb.
Lol I'll do kush and MZ later.
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On June 13 2014 20:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +I read scum based on votes. Not a surprise, but I'll read how the votes move and deduce the main scum suspect.
Just a clarification on how my scum% system works, everyone starts off at 0% scum and the number increases through scum posts. So which is it? If you base people off scummy posts kush must be at like 100%
Posts and votes* I like votes more. Sometimes I tunnel.
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On June 13 2014 20:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:33 HaruRH wrote:It is really hard to post something pretty on phone T.T Just a clarification on how my scum% system works, everyone starts off at 0% scum and the number increases through scum posts. Firstly, I was observing how people jumped from roundabound -> koshi -> snb -> kotc. There were people who preferred to jump wagons at last minute, or stay on the wagon. These people were ignored since it is normal to do so. However, 1 person did something striking to me. Rainbows initially sheeped the koshi vote. His reason was this: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 12:03 Rainbows wrote:As I was refreshing this thread on my phone while at work, a couple things I thought were interesting. First was Yamato's post here + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 09:27 yamato77 wrote:at p. 30, three posts I want to comment on Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 This case is not good. Sinani is not mafia for how he's played so far, and marv agreeing with Chrom about this read is suspicious. Do not like the sinani = mafia read at all. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. lol are you serious? This about sums up my thoughts on Robik. Not to be taken seriously. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote:
Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. That said, I don't like the case on him either, however I find this post to be a more reasonable and townie one than Chrom's post about sinani. tl;dr Chrom and Marv bad, sinani and robik not good lynches, Chairman townish. that I initially didn't find agreeable, because I was leaning town on Chrom (initial sinani pressure seemed good, overall posts seemed towny)Marv and Mocsta (roundabout) appeared to instantly pick up on the same thing I was feeling here: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 09:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 09:27 yamato77 wrote:at p. 30, three posts I want to comment on On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 This case is not good. Sinani is not mafia for how he's played so far, and marv agreeing with Chrom about this read is suspicious. Do not like the sinani = mafia read at all. On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. lol are you serious? This about sums up my thoughts on Robik. Not to be taken seriously. On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote:
Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. That said, I don't like the case on him either, however I find this post to be a more reasonable and townie one than Chrom's post about sinani. tl;dr Chrom and Marv bad, sinani and robik not good lynches, Chairman townish. you're bad because you fail at basic reading comprehension. go you. and here: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 09:30 roundabound wrote:
Yamato has to be scum; or a completely changed man
~moc . These responses by moc and marv make me feel better about them, because they were thinking what I was thinking as I read Yamato's post. Regardless of Yams alignment, I think marv and moc are towny because they were on the same wavelength as I. Similar reads on a post like this is a good indicator of who is playing for what team. I also noticed Koshi's post here: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself:ObiWanShinobi: Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted). + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
im just gonna sheep him forever. On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. On June 11 2014 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:50 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg Try English. And Logic. But, like, seriously, like, what does this, like, even, like, mean?.....Like roundabout, posting from what appears to be one of the moons of jupiter. very interesting. hows the weather up there? On June 11 2014 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
fuck i got town again. Gonna have to CC you hear I also rolled town. hi im poofter and i cannot english someone help : Not an awkward entrance. I am cool with CR. Also a case that looks coming from town . + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
Not everyone who townclaimed is town. I see them posting in my mafia QT. Stop lying guys. On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote:
Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. : Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote:Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game. : Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote:This is a really weird reaction from Palmar. If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:On June 11 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote:
I didn't get my role yet. Scumclaim. I know I'm mafia because I requested it and I also know I haven't received my role, so I can only assume that mafia gets roles sent last. Nailed you, bitch. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote:
Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb. On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared. Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote : Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him. tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote:
Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.
Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good. On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. ##Vote: sinani206 : Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll. On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote:
Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy. On June 11 2014 07:06 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. and therefore your conclusion? I think it's kinda scummy. I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books. Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik. well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though. Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity. , which I found underwhelming when concerning a bunch of null readers and disagreeable. We differ on Chrom reads apparently, but it looks like Koshi is soft-defending Sinani here. "Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No." Seems like a pretty bold statement for a supposed towny to make and be so assured of. He also voted tictac which is OK, but why not Chrom? spent more time discussing chrom than tic which I found to be odd. So yeah, I like chrom for early pressure and general posting, moc / marv seem to be on the same page as I am. Yamato seems a bit off, leaning maff. Koshi evul. Randoms reads. Bill Murray seems like a douche, but not mafia douche atm. Leaning somewhat townie douche. I'm OK with a douche as long as he doesn't bleed red. Chairman seems pretty well-structured to me, post on round appeals to a lot of logical assumptions. His koshi post goes from "his post seems scummy" to "he seems town", so i'm not sure what he's trying to do there. A pretty normal reason to vote on koshi. However, his switch from koshi to snb was suspect. He jumped off the koshi wagon quite quickly after some people jumped off the wagon and leeched obto the snb wagon when it was just starting, and it seemed to be a potential wagon. This was his crappy reason. + Show Spoiler + On June 12 2014 08:53 Rainbows wrote:
StrongandBig's posts thus far have been atrocious. Some summary, calls people stupid, and gives a very badly formed read on myself based on a bunch of unexplained "indications" that mean nothing.
I indicate SnB is mafia. Lynch with fire.
##Unvote: Koshi
##Vote: StrongandBig This is obviously just a sheep post. At this point, he probably just wanted to sheep and gain easy towncreds if his sheep worked - but people jumped off snb into kotc vote. What I theorize is, if rainbows was unable to jump to kotc for 2 reasons: 1) he was scum and is unabls to vote for his scummate. 2) any more jumps and he will look suspicious. These few suspect jumps and the kotc flip have led me to give rainbows a 30% scum rating. Post me qns about anyone who you want me to show my ratings and explanation. Changing your vote often isn't really a scummy thing to do. Why would Rainbows expect towncred for sheeping the snb wagon? I mean you are indicating that snb would have been town here.
For being one of the first few to sheep a snb wagon, he would be held less responsible for mislynching. That's why he had to come out with some shitty reason to vote for snb quickly so that he would be one of the first few. Given that BM was so aggressive in making people sheep him, it was quite clear that this may be the lynch.
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On June 13 2014 20:48 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:47 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 20:46 Holyflare wrote:I read scum based on votes. Not a surprise, but I'll read how the votes move and deduce the main scum suspect.
Just a clarification on how my scum% system works, everyone starts off at 0% scum and the number increases through scum posts. So which is it? If you base people off scummy posts kush must be at like 100% Posts and votes* I like votes more. Sometimes I tunnel. how would you analyse your own votes and reasons
How would I analyse my own votes and reasons? Am I supposed to say I am scum?
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On June 14 2014 01:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey harurh can you explain why Cameroon didn't score there?
Since u watching the game right?
¡Mexico! ¿Que Pasa?
Only the first game (brazil vs croatia) is free T.T
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On June 14 2014 01:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 01:36 HaruRH wrote:On June 14 2014 01:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey harurh can you explain why Cameroon didn't score there?
Since u watching the game right?
¡Mexico! ¿Que Pasa?
Only the first game (brazil vs croatia) is free T.T Damn that sucks. Also, Cameroon bought off the referee. 2 legit Mexico goals denied.
Damn.
I might watch chile vs australia, depending on my resolve to walk to the nearest mcdonalds and watch for 2 hours while eating mcbreakfast.
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Right, I'm going for rainbows.
##Vote: Rainbows
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*WARNING* SCUM AHEAD *WARNING*
Some scums have the habit of reading the situation too hard. Some choose to have selective reading. NONE of Rainbows' points are valid at all. Why, you ask? Because, all the quotes he pulled out from my filter had been accounted for. EASY. Lets go through his 'read' on me one by one.
On June 14 2014 07 :08 Rainbows wrote:So I haven't read really anything that happened during the night. Only guy I'm surprised didn't die is Marv, but I'll assume that mafia are medic dodging. But here is scum. I noticed after he voted me so I wanted to figure out why. Haru is mafia This post here: Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 21:11 HaruRH wrote:On June 11 2014 20:46 yamato77 wrote:I'll quote Ver's analysis RE: VA -I don’t think I’ve verbalized my intuition fully on Vayne so here goes: Terrible filter, fits mafia profile (deduced from atmosphere/limited interference in lynches) exactly. Ever present but barely playing. Constantly complains about the thread quality but spends all of his time talking about blue roles and irrelevant nonsense, which is a massive incongruency. Caller’s point quoted above is also very good.
And what has he done so far this game? On June 11 2014 07:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
alrighty well the thread is already too long so I just skipped it, I assume its mostly early game spam. I'll start reading from this point on.
On June 11 2014 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
this game is giving me a migraine ill let you know when i start reading it again While I agree with the sentiment expressed, it's still the same sort of hypocritical nonsense that Ver so accurately pointed out. VA as mafia loves to complain and argue about pointless shit. VA as town would have just posted what he thought about someone/something, right or wrong, and been done with it. Of course, it's only two posts, but it's a solid lead. ##Vote: VayneAuthorityI'll be looking at Koshi and Chairman more in depth soon. I think they are town, but there is sentiment expressed that this is not the case, and I wish to solve the matter. Uh.... you seemed to miss the point. Ver used BOTH points as a combination of factors. Even if VA is about to turn into a blue post craping whore, the truth is he haven't. You either jumped the gun too early, or you are trying to shoot him before he turned, which leads into 2 outcomes : 1) He WILL turn 2)You are just trying to shoot for the heck of it. On June 11 2014 20:52 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:46 Holyflare wrote:The pressure votes, overwhelming. + Show Spoiler + Oh yeah, by the way, this is exactly what mafia Holyflare does. He afks for most of the early game, and then comes in later with all his tryhard worked up. See Survivor for a perfect example. I theorize that he does this as mafia because he finds it difficult to post early on as mafia (which is a tricky thing to do convincingly), so he just skips it, takes the heat for being afk, and then makes up for it with his ability to post long posts full of reasonable-sounding things later on. He could be legitimately busy, but his posts show he's obviously reading the thread, just not actively participating. Regardless of the manner of his return, he is definitely up there in terms of mafia candidates for this sort of play, simply given his history with this exact pattern. Uh... stop? On June 11 2014 20:53 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:49 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 20:46 yamato77 wrote:I'll quote Ver's analysis RE: VA -I don’t think I’ve verbalized my intuition fully on Vayne so here goes: Terrible filter, fits mafia profile (deduced from atmosphere/limited interference in lynches) exactly. Ever present but barely playing. Constantly complains about the thread quality but spends all of his time talking about blue roles and irrelevant nonsense, which is a massive incongruency. Caller’s point quoted above is also very good.
And what has he done so far this game? On June 11 2014 07:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
alrighty well the thread is already too long so I just skipped it, I assume its mostly early game spam. I'll start reading from this point on.
On June 11 2014 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
this game is giving me a migraine ill let you know when i start reading it again While I agree with the sentiment expressed, it's still the same sort of hypocritical nonsense that Ver so accurately pointed out. VA as mafia loves to complain and argue about pointless shit. VA as town would have just posted what he thought about someone/something, right or wrong, and been done with it. Of course, it's only two posts, but it's a solid lead. ##Vote: VayneAuthorityI'll be looking at Koshi and Chairman more in depth soon. I think they are town, but there is sentiment expressed that this is not the case, and I wish to solve the matter. you're completely missing the 2nd half of Ver's analysis, i.e. spending all his time talking about roles and other shit, which is the massive incongruency, and the incongruency is why he was mafia. That incongruency doesn't exist here because he's not doing anything else either. So using Ver to back up your read is pretty dodgerific I really have no interest in your opinion. Stop. On June 11 2014 20:53 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:53 Holyflare wrote:I have law exams that end tomorrow yamato That doesn't mean you aren't mafia anyway. I really mean it, stop. On June 11 2014 20:56 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:53 marvellosity wrote:
then you're still fucking terrible. There still exists an incongruity. Vayne is complaining about the quality of the game yet is actually making it worse with the way he posts. Vayne's towngame does not consist of complaint posts. He doesn't care about the state of the thread when he's town. He just plays the game. I'll quote Ver's analysis RE: VA -I don’t think I’ve verbalized my intuition fully on Vayne so here goes: Terrible filter, fits mafia profile (deduced from atmosphere/limited interference in lynches) exactly. Ever present but barely playing. Constantly complains about the thread quality but spends all of his time talking about blue roles and irrelevant nonsense, which is a massive incongruency. Caller’s point quoted above is also very good.
MASSIVE INCONGRUENCY. On June 11 2014 21:04 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:59 Holyflare wrote:On June 11 2014 20:56 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:55 Holyflare wrote:On June 11 2014 20:53 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:53 Holyflare wrote:I have law exams that end tomorrow yamato That doesn't mean you aren't mafia anyway. Silly sausage! If i don't post it's because i have a reason We'll see. Well no because now if i return with try hard you will say "see! Classic mafia". If i don't you'll say "he doesn't care, classic mafia!" If you're going to use meta don't use unequivocally wrong ones. Or you can just be mafia and continue with it. If you don't have time to play, then why are you arguing with me about your alignment right now? I don't have to believe your reasons for your inactivity. And no, my analysis of your play so far involves no catch-22, because your being afk as mafia happens exclusively in the early game. Later in the game, you obviously play legitimately. You might be afk early on as town and then come back and play legitimately. But noting the pattern is important because it's a 30 player game, so I need to narrow my focus down to a small enough range of people to where I really don't have to analyze every post. ... On June 11 2014 21:04 yamato77 wrote:
tl;dr I'm watching you, HF I'M WATCHING YOU YAMATO. is scummy to high heavens. Does he do an analysis of yamato based on his play? No. Is he discerning his alignment? Doesn't appear to. All he says is 'stop that' and that he's watching Yamato. What is the purpose of this post from a townie perspective? The only thing I could think of is pressure--but it harasses a player without any insight of what side he is playing for. Haru isn't trying to convince anyone that Yamato is mafia, so there is no town purpose to this post.
??? You mean, by replying to someone whos shitposting, I have to have an agenda? :O
On June 14 2014 07:08 Rainbows wrote:After these jabs at Yamato, he votes for CR here: Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 18:42 HaruRH wrote:On June 11 2014 18:36 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 12:51 Rainbows wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 09:20 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote:
I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason:
I think my towns are town.
My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them? Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me. If Koshi is heading out for the night, I'm just gonna chime in now. Koshi's big analysis post reads pretty scummy to me. His mafia reads seem pretty sincere and thought out, but his town reads are very short. Whether or not he believes them himself is not evident, but it doesn't convey much to the reader. My initial thinking is that his townreads serve to 'bulk' up his post. I've seen a lot of mafia in previous games iterate through people and give a quick impression of them without a well thought out read on them. This gives the impression that they are active and their posts are longer without actually having to do a lot of investigation. What strikes me odd was his next post: Koshi posted this in response to the people that were dismissive of his reads. This is a very important distinction because people react differently when they are opposed by analysis and when they are opposed by a one liner. In this case, most people just posted a quick one liner dismissing him. From Koshi's perspective, if he just gave out a few quick impressions without a lot of thought, he wouldn't have any sort of attachment or loyalty to his post. His response to the critics would be something like "Those were just my gut feelings at the moment, they may change by the end of the day". Instead, he dismissed the critics with a one liner post containing no new information by posting "No sorry my towns are town". It may be hard to read into on forum mafia, but to me he sounds a bit frustrated and doesn't feel his critics doesn't deserve any more than a one liner. If this is the case, then Koshi has some genuine belief of his townreads, and regardless of the quality of his reads or how he conveyed them, this seems more town to me.tl;dr I disagree with Koshi's townreads, even though I am among them; I disagree with Sandroba that Koshi is mafia. I don't get CR's goal with his postings. he comes to no conclusion, just that some post made koshi scummy but his next post made him more town. So is he mafia or town for CR at this point? I care not that CR is posting intelligently (this is a good thing!!!), but there's a bunch of text with seemingly no bite involved atm yes, i agree with this i think. I read through 30+ pages of 'stuff' and the huge post by koshi and the reads off koshi's posts were striking to me.
CR seems like trying to earn some towncred by pointing out koshi first, so that in the future he can use this as a reference to how towny he is.Town totem: Chrom, batsnacks. Everyone else is hard to read. They make towny posts, then destroy their own image by making themselves look scummy. Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.
All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.
My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray My problem arises with the bolded. Just read it over, slowly. Does it make any sense whatsoever? Apparently, it seemed as if CR is attacking Koshi in order to gain towncred LATER in the game? I don't think this analysis makes any sense whatsoever. What townie in this game came to that same conclusion, please tell me. I didn't. "Oh, CR must be attacing Koshi first so he can use it as towncred later" WHAT? CR was scummy, but not for this reason at all. The reference to his Koshi vote as a 'placeholder' is additionally acts as a buffer for scrutiny. *assume koshi flips town at some point* "Why were you voting Koshi D1?" "Oh it was just a placeholder no worries!"
Can Haru use another of his post to explain this post? Sure he can.
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.##Vote:Chairman Ray
On June 14 2014 07:08 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 18:00 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote:
Very sneaky voting man this Haru. I thought I said the vote on CR from me was a placeholder? SnB have some weird posts, will link them here in one sec, Filter dived him today. So now CR is a placeholder vote? Scummy as balls.
Can Haru still use another post of his to explain?..... Sure he can.
On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting. Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.
On June 14 2014 07:08 Rainbows wrote:Then he provides shoddy reasoning for calling snb scum. Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically
Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . Then he shitposts. It's interesting that Haru calls my reasons for voting SnB terrible, but in the same breath can post something like the above with almost no analysis whatsoever. It reaks of keeping doors open.
Looks like rainbows need to cool down with a cute rap from me
On June 12 2014 20:57 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 20:47 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol well if i thought you had been at all useful besides, the meta wouldn't matter... Hey marv if you wanna meta me, you need to re-read my posts to even use it as meta Heres a short little rap by me to show you what I mean Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 12:07 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 12:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 12:01 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly I dont understand how this post had anything to do with what my case was on him? Nothing to do with it at all, just a crap post with no meaning other than for jabber to not feel so awkward with every post he makes To me, it seemed as if you were coaching him to change the topic in order to get pressure off of him. Why would you want to do that? I play with no targets in mind For the first day where it is still fun I only suspect But I do not attack I will not paint a target on the first day Because tails only show at night And thus we can hang those who Are deduced to be one next day No need to pressure in the first day, in my view Lynching him is still our aim, thus I will
On June 14 2014 07 :08 Rainbows wrote:WARNING, SCUMMIEST POST IN THREAD INCOMING:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru. Firstly, this haru guy don't even Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray contribute Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting. Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out. At Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically
Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . Then he shitposts. ALL. Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH Oh my God. How did nobody look at the before, what in God's name is this terrible post. Haru posted this when somebody said they wanted to lynch him D1 for not contributing (or something). This is his response. Haru literally just quotes posts he made and says "I contribute a lot". This is actually fine, but examine for a moment the way he goes about it. The post is completely sarcastic and not serious. Imagine Haru is town and is under pressure for not contributing. I don't think the response is the same. Mafia Haru is nervous, doesn't want his self-defense to be overly defending himself because that's what mafia do--hard defend themselves against small allegations. Instead, he chooses to guise his post in sarcasm in order to alleviate tension. This post screams mafia insecurity.
'Hey Haru can you answer this with a post -' you know what? I might not be able to... JUST KIDDING
On June 12 2014 21:05 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 20:58 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 20:57 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:47 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol well if i thought you had been at all useful besides, the meta wouldn't matter... Hey marv if you wanna meta me, you need to re-read my posts to even use it as meta Heres a short little rap by me to show you what I mean On May 27 2014 12:07 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 12:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 12:01 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly I dont understand how this post had anything to do with what my case was on him? Nothing to do with it at all, just a crap post with no meaning other than for jabber to not feel so awkward with every post he makes To me, it seemed as if you were coaching him to change the topic in order to get pressure off of him. Why would you want to do that? I play with no targets in mind For the first day where it is still fun I only suspect But I do not attack I will not paint a target on the first day Because tails only show at night And thus we can hang those who Are deduced to be one next day No need to pressure in the first day, in my view Lynching him is still our aim, thus I will i have no idea what you're trying to say. i don't care for you sitting around arguing with me about your previous game. I have no idea what are you trying to do here too marv. Firstly, you scumread me for not playing like the last game, to which I explain nothing much changed except for my attitude, even citing examples, and yet you dont care about arguing about my previous game....??? In what way are you supposed to be useful on d1? I'm not the type to scumread people based on 2 real life day worth of content, with no methods of deducing anything at all. Not everyone play like you all do.
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On June 14 2014 07 :08 Rainbows wrote:
Haru is Mafia for the following reasons:
- Blatant insecurity about his image, using sarcasm in order to deflect pressure off of himself. Calling his votes placeholders do he does not have to commit.
wow great argument such wow
I don't even want to find a quote that answers this, find it by yourself in my filter.
On June 14 2014 07 :08 Rainbows wrote:
- Ignoring the KotC case completely. Town would probably weigh in, but scum are afraid to be wishy-washy about the issue concerning their scum partner. Scum do not want to vote their guy, OR appear to not want to vote him. Avoidance is the best way to do this.
*Yawn* I'll be a kind soul and put this out for you
oh wait youre using my own point against me, good job rainbows :D you learnt
On June 13 2014 19:42 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:38 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2014 19:37 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:36 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
it's nothing to do with sheeping me
it's totally disappearing after being active when i made my case
it's not contributing anything to the thread while kotc wagon was taking place
it's lazy +1 of some random case later No. I watched the world cup (after sheeping chrom because I dont have time to read) with friends and slept after that for 12 hours. I have just finished catching up with the thread and will post my stuff later, when I'm on a computer. Of course, you can choose not to believe me. World cup wasn't on during that time period. World cup opening ceremony wasn't until about 7pm my time ??? World cup started right when the lynch happened. I was already gone 1 hour before it. That's not when I was talking about. I'm talking about how you were active RIGHT UP to the point I made my case on KotC and then you disappeared for many hours. Could well be coincidence. Could also not be. Sorry, I had no interest to read any of your cases at that point because I was quite pissed. I don't even know the reason for lynching kotc, I just assumed what chrom said was true and it was a giant sheepfest. coincidence or not, I believed my initial vote, snb to be more scummy and since everyone decided to go off the wagon, I chose chrom to sheep.
On June 14 2014 07 :08 Rainbows wrote:
- Keeping multiple avenues open during D1 for lynches. Town do this, so do I, I didn't care if we lynched like 10 different people. But Haru posts very thin or nonsensical reasons for his 'suspects' (CR gaining towncred later with koshi pressure lolwut). Town would just be like "ok ill lynch this guy because lurk / because shitpost / because giant douche". The way Haru tries to rationalize the CR vote makes little sense to me. ALL of his votes have been either "not serious" (Koshi, himself) or really bad reasoning (CR), or epic sheepmode on Ritosky.
I felt like I answered this so many times that I could get an emmy for best script, so I don't even want to answer that.
It is stinking obvious to me that rainbows tunnelled so hard to try and squeeze out points from my filter. He even went so far to ignore out all the arguments I raised for my own work, and even when other, more credible people chose to question me, I could answer them. Why didn't he read my filter properly, you ask.
Rainbows: 30% -> 50% scumrating increased! Level up!
BUT WAIT, THATS NOT ALL!
I've captured another tunnelling rat with rainbows! :D
On June 14 2014 04:44 Chromatically wrote:Sadly I don't have very much time, and I'm not even going to be here at deadline, so here's quickly where I'm at. Haru and ritoky are my top two scum for reasons already stated. Since I haven't said as much about Haru, his posting is basically useless and he doesn't at all look like he's trying to solve the game. His post on SnB (which was posted when SnB was the main wagon) is the epitome of this, his reasoning is really poor and he's essentially trying to look like he's not sheeping. Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically
Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . Then he shitposts. Other scum could be ObiWan and gumshoe. I didn't have a problem with ObiWan earlier, mainly because he was posting a lot and it sounded fairly townie, but looking in his filter, most of his posts don't actually say anything. He voted on Cats, but didn't comment on the case at all and left room for him to back out if it looked like momentum was tipping. gumshoe's posts also don't look like they're trying to find scum/saying much. Then there's {Slam, kush, sandroba, VA}, who I think are mostly unreadable for one reason or another. Slam I think is more likely to be mafia because of what I said earlier. VA is more likely to be town because he tipped the lynch from 6-6 SnB vs Cats to 6-7, where he could have jumped on Cats instead (of course, it's possible he could have just seen the momentum (and/or SnB is mafia)).
Now for extra towncreds, help me pull out stuff from my filter that answers this ton of question. (Hint: more than half my post does this)
On June 14 2014 07:43 Chairman Ray wrote:
@Rainbows
Thinking the same thing regarding Haru. I was gonna post a case on him tomorrow when I have a good chunk of free time, but looks like you've done most of the work for me ^^. Just a couple things I would like to add though.
Firstly his case against me. I was sort of bothered by how he thought I was attacking Koshi. My case was defending Koshi, but with some comments earlier about some things in Koshi's post that read scummy to me. This seems to me like he didn't really read it fully. It would make sense is Haru already knew that he's going to give a scumread on me, and then looked through my filter to find something, started reading up until the point where I say Koshi is sorta scummy, and then assumed the rest was gonna be the same.
After that, everything he did at the end of the day was really fishy. Firstly when SnB became the leading vote, Haru posted his case on him. There were many cases posted on why SnB may be scum, so if Haru read them and agreed with them, as town he would just say he agrees and put in a vote. If Haru didn't read the cases on SnB, then by some coincidence, out of everyone he investigated, he came up with same conclusion as the current wagon at the same time as well. But if this were the case, his read on SnB would be a lot more detailed and actually explain some evidence of SnB's alignment. Since it's neither, what would make the most sense is that Haru saw that the wagon was on SnB, and wanted to vote SnB looking like he investigated it himself.
Next thing, I find it odd as well how he completely avoided the whole discussion on KotC, but then Chrom put in a read on ritoky, in which Haru jumped on the vote right away.
now CR, I understand your Marginal Propensity to Sheep (MPS) is greater than 1, thus you're elastic to sheeping, so please just get out of here.
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On June 14 2014 15:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
oh boy one of those scummy post by post vomit things. guess i have to filter this haru guy
When someone's argument can be post by post vomited to reply, you know that argument is rubbish.
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On June 14 2014 16:14 gumshoe wrote:
Helop, surprisingly I have a pretty good excuse for my ludicrously long absence buuuuut people hate excuses so I'll just get back into it, I've reconsidered chair man, I liked his explanation/defence. It makes more sense that he was just trying to figure stuff out as opposed to try and start a fire. As a result I'm fine with lynching haru purely because he jumped on the case I made right away despite having only made a single comment against cr in passing a while back. On another note, noes around the time I expect Exo to solve the game given how much he's hyped his quality over quantity reads so looking forward to that.
Go ahead, but make sure rainbows is lynched next after me if it occurs. I will feel so good to actually deduce out a mafia after 2 games :D Looks like I need to sacrifice for town at the scale of Palmar :D It's ok though, Palmar had already left me a great impression after detention mafia and I really liked how he sacrificed himself here this game too, with mafiabait. ILL GLADLY BE MAFIABAIT TOO, LYNCH ALL THOSE WHO FOLLOW RAINBOWS
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On June 14 2014 16:35 Holyflare wrote:
also that haru post makes him look like a kid in the candy store so probably not on my list for today even if his cats stuff is weird
Somebody placed a giant pot of candy in front of me I couldn't resist
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On June 14 2014 22:02 Rainbows wrote:
Haru, I assure you I will never be lynched this game. Bring it scum.
And I assure you i'll never get lynched and even if I get lynched, I want you to start the wagon and get lynched for doing that. Bring it on scum.
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On June 14 2014 22:02 Rainbows wrote:
Haru, I assure you I will never be lynched this game. Bring it scum.
also, given how rainbows cannot even argue against my evidence, I hereby conclude that rainbows' case is fraud. Anyone who wagons with him will be deemed scum. I mean it.
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On June 14 2014 21:27 yamato77 wrote:
the case on Haru isn't as good, I'll admit, but I still think Haru is likely mafia
helping your scumbuddy wagon now? Quite bold of you 3 to show up now, are you guys feeling threatened?
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On June 14 2014 22:16 Rainbows wrote:
Also that "ill sac myself then lynch rainbows" is scummy to hell. if he is town he doesnt know im my alignment, and no town would put all eggs in basket at the risk of two mislynches. Getting yourself lynched is stupid to prove something in this situation.
The only thing I need to prove right now is that you're the scum we have been looking for. So you're saying, you know I'm town but you're pushing me? :O
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On June 14 2014 22:19 Rainbows wrote:
Haru, it will be impossible to lynch me this game. I'm town. You're probably mafia
so you're not sure if I'm mafia now?
Hey rainbows, or should I say scum|rainbows, one suggestion is to ask your buddies on scum QT/Skype/whatever to proofread your replies. They reek of TMI and scumminess. Until your scumbuddies have proofread it properly, then you post it here.
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EBWOP
Until your scumbuddies have proofread it properly, don't post it here.
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On June 14 2014 22:25 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 22:23 HaruRH wrote:On June 14 2014 22:19 Rainbows wrote:
Haru, it will be impossible to lynch me this game. I'm town. You're probably mafia so you're not sure if I'm mafia now? Hey rainbows, or should I say scum|rainbows, one suggestion is to ask your buddies on scum QT/Skype/whatever to proofread your replies. They reek of TMI and scumminess. Until your scumbuddies have proofread it properly, then you post it here. How do my posts reek of TMI? I do not know if you are mafia. You haben't flipped yet. The rest of this reply is just shitposting, rude, and unnecessary. Im trying to parse out if im lynching the wrong guy and you are not convincing me.
you certainly don't sound like someone who is trying to deduce if you're lynching the wrong guy. Wait, you're doubting yourself now?
How do your posts reek of TMI? read the bolded parts again out loud.
Well, I know I'm lynching you.
Of course you don't know if I'm mafia, since you already know everyone is town except your scum buddies.
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On June 14 2014 22:25 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 22:23 HaruRH wrote:On June 14 2014 22:19 Rainbows wrote:
Haru, it will be impossible to lynch me this game. I'm town. You're probably mafia so you're not sure if I'm mafia now? Hey rainbows, or should I say scum|rainbows, one suggestion is to ask your buddies on scum QT/Skype/whatever to proofread your replies. They reek of TMI and scumminess. Until your scumbuddies have proofread it properly, then you post it here. How do my posts reek of TMI? I do not know if you are mafia. You haben't flipped yet. The rest of this reply is just shitposting, rude, and unnecessary. Im trying to parse out if im lynching the wrong guy and you are not convincing me.
And sorry if I sound rude now, I get pretty mad when people present cases that are completely disproved and still push with the cases.
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right, let me take a walk and calm down
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Hey rainbows, I suggest we talk about this in fun ways so that we won't unwillingly start a flame war. Something like what sqrt did at the start of detention mafia. I know you're feeling pissed now, because I am too. Now, think of a handicap for your own posts.
So I'm going to talk in 3rd person from now on.
On June 14 2014 22:33 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 22:28 HaruRH wrote:On June 14 2014 22:25 Rainbows wrote:On June 14 2014 22:23 HaruRH wrote:On June 14 2014 22:19 Rainbows wrote:
Haru, it will be impossible to lynch me this game. I'm town. You're probably mafia so you're not sure if I'm mafia now? Hey rainbows, or should I say scum|rainbows, one suggestion is to ask your buddies on scum QT/Skype/whatever to proofread your replies. They reek of TMI and scumminess. Until your scumbuddies have proofread it properly, then you post it here. How do my posts reek of TMI? I do not know if you are mafia. You haben't flipped yet. The rest of this reply is just shitposting, rude, and unnecessary. Im trying to parse out if im lynching the wrong guy and you are not convincing me. you certainly don't sound like someone who is trying to deduce if you're lynching the wrong guy. Wait, you're doubting yourself now? How do your posts reek of TMI? read the bolded parts again out loud. Well, I know I'm lynching you. Of course you don't know if I'm mafia, since you already know everyone is town except your scum buddies. Of course I doubt myself because IM FUCKING TOWN. If I were scum and you were town, I'd just relentlessly push the mislynch like I did in my newbie scumgame until he died. The only information I have is right in front of me. You seem scummy based on prior actions, therefore, you have a good chance to flip mafia, but it is never a 100% shot in this case. Your confidence brigade here is not appealing in the least, and it's scummy as shit that you can't even sit down to look at the other side of the coin. Also at the bolded parts, you aren't even reading my post. . . they say 'If you are town, you wouldn't know my alignment, and wouldn't put all eggs in one basket like this' These interactions
From Haru's perspective, there had been no 'second side of the coin'. He was so strongly tunnelled onto Rainbows as scum that, he ignored the possibility for rainbows to be town.
Haru probably understood his play was suboptimal. I mean, when he was playing in detention mafia, he was top 3 mafia candidate until Amiko checked him and turned out he was town.
It was only natural for town to lynch Rainbows after pushing onto Haru so strongly, causing a mislynch out of proportions.
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On June 14 2014 22:35 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 22:32 HaruRH wrote:On June 14 2014 22:25 Rainbows wrote:On June 14 2014 22:23 HaruRH wrote:On June 14 2014 22:19 Rainbows wrote:
Haru, it will be impossible to lynch me this game. I'm town. You're probably mafia so you're not sure if I'm mafia now? Hey rainbows, or should I say scum|rainbows, one suggestion is to ask your buddies on scum QT/Skype/whatever to proofread your replies. They reek of TMI and scumminess. Until your scumbuddies have proofread it properly, then you post it here. How do my posts reek of TMI? I do not know if you are mafia. You haben't flipped yet. The rest of this reply is just shitposting, rude, and unnecessary. Im trying to parse out if im lynching the wrong guy and you are not convincing me. And sorry if I sound rude now, I get pretty mad when people present cases that are completely disproved and still push with the cases. The case isn't disproved lol. The way you acted day 1 stands on its own as scummy. It is impossible to disprove the ignoring of kotc case and the insecurity of your day 1 play. It happened, you can give reasons that you did those things, but they could just be fabrications.
Ah, the infamous line from marv. 'I don't have to believe you're having a law exam'. I don't think Haru can prove he was watching world cup with his friends, unless he took a video of him with his friends, drinking beer and laughing at Marcelo's own goal and his antics during the game, those are hard to prove indeed.
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On June 14 2014 22:43 Rainbows wrote:
haru i laughed but it doesnt change the nature of a deception based game where peoplw make you giggle then shoot you in the face at night.
Haru explicitly claimed for Rainbows to use a handicap.
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LCS or World Cup... the decision is very real....
So I just want to wait to see if rainbows is willing to let go, if he is ,I will do so too.
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Oh wait nvm its TSM vs C9, give me 1 hour brb
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On June 15 2014 10:16 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 09:51 Rainbows wrote:On June 15 2014 09:09 kushm4sta wrote:
1. KotC is not new. He plays on OMGUS a lot.
2. I think Haru is town. saying "ill drop it if you do" is not something scum is likely to do, because they want it to seem like there is real conviction behind their reads. So, then, Haru has no real conviction behind his read on me. Yet is willing to get lynched so people will lynch me the following day? ehhhh he probably reads you less scummy now than when he said to lynch you after him. plus you aren't a legit lynch candidate. So he probably means "ok ill stop talking about this bullshit if rainbow stops talking about it."
This. It takes a real town to get mad and push so hard. That's why I lowered my tone and was kinda happy during the push. I could feeeel your dedication. Now its still there. Good job, call me mafia all you want. I don't care anymore.
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On June 15 2014 12:46 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 06:55 Rainbows wrote:Hey guys, I'm back. I was about to go examine some other people to hopefully get the tunnel vision off, but then I saw Haru posted this reply: On June 15 2014 04:18 HaruRH wrote:
LCS or World Cup... the decision is very real....
So I just want to wait to see if rainbows is willing to let go, if he is ,I will do so too. SCUM! Haru only wants to let go if I don't threaten to lynch him. This is NOT TOWNIE. Haru is too concerned with self-preservation. He is attempting to bargain with me so that he can live. "As long as you don't call me scum and try to lynch me, I'll do the same". His scumread on me is not predicated on thinking I'm mafia -- if it were, he would not care if I am simultaneously pressuring him. If he wanted to let go, he would just let go. He is mafia that doesn't want to be in the spotlight anymore. SHINE SHINE MUTHAFUCKA I am not your buddy Haru. You may be sexy and attractive but you are not my friend, pal. SCUM. DIE. EVERYBODY VOTE HARU. HE IS MAFIA. +1 to this btw, I misread Haru's post the first time as "I want to see if rainbows is willing to go", like they were going to have a big showdown or something. Backing off, but only if Rainbows does, makes it seem like his case was only meant to deter Rainbows from attacking him. It's especially weird after he's made a big show of how convinced he is on Rainbows.
OMG +1+1+1
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On June 15 2014 14:38 Holyflare wrote:
How the fuck do i turn mobile mode back on... There used to be a button and now it's gone
Right at the bottom, turn mobile enhanced mode on
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On June 15 2014 14:44 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 03:45 Chromatically wrote:On June 14 2014 18:08 ExO_ wrote:I've taken the time to go back over the end of the day 1 voting, looking for things that might stick out. I think Alakaslam still might be mafia, but I'm not as convinced as I first was when I was reading on my phone. He might just be a spammy bastard. But I think Chromatically is mafia. At June 12 2014 13:31 Chrom votes ritoky. At this point the train on KotC is in full swing, and he's up to 9 votes. It's looking like he's going to be lynched. 2 Hours prior however, the vote count was only at 4 for KotC. So a lot of votes moved all at once. 1 hour later at June 12 2014 14:31 Chrom hops on the train. What's interesting is Chrom's posts in this one hour block. Before I get to the hour block, lets take a look at some of Chrom's earlier posts. His first vote on Sinani is preceded by this: On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 It almost seems like a sarcastic joke to me at first, to vote Sinani for such an arbitrary reason. Going from page 1-2 of his filter though, he continues to push Sinani pretty hard. Koshi notices this, and calls him Chrom out on it. Chrom clams up after this, asking Yamato for a read on himself. To me this seems like a concerned mafia. The real gold comes after that though: On June 11 2014 10:19 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 10:11 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 10:03 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself:ObiWanShinobi: Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted). + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
im just gonna sheep him forever. On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. On June 11 2014 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:50 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg Try English. And Logic. But, like, seriously, like, what does this, like, even, like, mean?.....Like roundabout, posting from what appears to be one of the moons of jupiter. very interesting. hows the weather up there? On June 11 2014 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
fuck i got town again. Gonna have to CC you hear I also rolled town. hi im poofter and i cannot english someone help : Not an awkward entrance. I am cool with CR. Also a case that looks coming from town . + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
Not everyone who townclaimed is town. I see them posting in my mafia QT. Stop lying guys. On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote:
Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. : Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote:Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game. : Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote:This is a really weird reaction from Palmar. If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:On June 11 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote:
I didn't get my role yet. Scumclaim. I know I'm mafia because I requested it and I also know I haven't received my role, so I can only assume that mafia gets roles sent last. Nailed you, bitch. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote:
Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb. On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared. Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote : Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him. tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote:
Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.
Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good. On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. ##Vote: sinani206 : Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll. On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote:
Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy. On June 11 2014 07:06 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. and therefore your conclusion? I think it's kinda scummy. I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books. Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik. well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though. Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity. Wow. Your scumread on me is not even a scumread. You listed a bunch of things I did that you didn't like or disagreed with. What you did not do is explain how they make me scum. You "didn't like my entrance"- how does that make me scum? You actually say that you disagree with my scumread- how does that make me scum? Even when you're talking about how you disagree with my scumread, you don't quote the case and look at what parts of it you think could come from scum, you just mention why you disagree with some parts of it. And then you basically make up the part where I was "asking everyone to sheep me", because I was making a deliberate point of not doing that (I asked marv because I wanted his opinion, but I'm not going around asking people to start a wagon). I don't see at all how your points lead you to think I'm scum. What do you think of Koshi's alignment? Is he making this post as a villager or a wolf? I want to see his explanation of his read on me. Right now, it looks like he's not actually thinking about who's scummy, more about what things he can throw suspicion on. As town, he would be worried about why the things I've done make me scum, but as mafia, he would be happy to give out a read where he just says things he doesn't like (regardless of mafia motivation). The thing I'm worried about is that, as scum, he would be more wary of giving out townreads with such shoddy reasoning in such a blatant way, because it draws attention to himself. So explanation. Sound familiar? It seems to me he did to Sinani exactly what he said Koshi was doing to him. After this going from page 2-3 on his filter, he continues to freak out at Koshi a bit. Just like with Yamato, he asks Koshi about Koshi's read on himself. To me, it looks like Chrom is very worried about what everyone thinks about him. Regarding Koshi, he even goes on to say: On June 12 2014 01:53 Chromatically wrote:On June 12 2014 01:21 Koshi wrote:
I am not even pushing for his lynch. Sorry I dared to say something bad about him. Sorry for trying to pressure him.
I GOT IT CHROM
I AM NOT ALLOWED TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT YOU.
SORRY BRO
OUTRAAAAGGGGEEEEE. My point in asking that question was that this does not sound like someone talking to their scumread. This sounds like he thinks I'm town.Think about it. If you're town and your scumread posts a big case on you claiming that you're misrepresenting them and trying to get you lynched, you're probably going to be mad/attack back and defend yourself. You wouldn't jokingly apologize to your scumread for pushing them, when you think they're scum trying to mislynch you. He's literally putting words into Koshi's mouth, saying that he's town. The banter with Koshi goes on for a little bit, and he starts asking for reads on Koshi. At the bottom of page 3 of his filter he says: On June 12 2014 09:28 Chromatically wrote:
I'm going to see what people are on about with ketomai because I didn't really get it when he was in the thread. Followed by: On June 12 2014 09:41 Chromatically wrote:
I think ketomai totally depends on what he posts next. The thing that happened in thread could have easily been a townie startled by people jumping on him before he starts playing. I agree that it's weird that he feels like he has to vote between round and Exo, but it's not really scummy..? He could have easily left his vote on himself and that would draw less attention.
What he posts next is the important part. This part isn't super relevant to my case, but I'm pointing it out here in case my case turns out to be correct. Ketomai has been suspected quite a bit, and here Chrom isn't exactly defending him but he is lightly trying to divert attention off of Ketomai. He's not joining any trains of thought against Keto though. Right before the "magic hour" I referred to earlier, we see Chrom trying to divert away from cats with: On June 13 2014 03:05 Chromatically wrote:
Can't we just lynch ritoky? and On June 13 2014 03:12 Chromatically wrote:
The case on Cats is good but it basically relies on him being experienced/good. He could be actually new or just really bad. ritoky has done things that are scum-motivated, not just bad. I'll consolidate my case because I think I wasn't very clear yesterday. That's just about all he had to say about cats, sorta in what I would call a "yeah yeah, but!" fashion. He doesn't want to say the case against cats is bad, but he doesn't want to encourage it either, and I think this post is a great way to try to push another case while acknowledging the cats case as little as possible. So we finally get to this hour. I understand at this point the voting is nearing its end. But chrom posts 12 times, his biggest concentration of posts yet. I won't quote all 12 posts, you can eaisly find them on his filter and they're going to clog this already clogged post. From 13:31 to 14:11 he was heavily pushing ritoky, I think in a desperate attempt to get the focus off king and onto somebody else. He gave it one last effort here: On June 13 2014 04:11 Chromatically wrote:
It's not even worth it for me to push for ritoky if people don't want to go for it but I just think the case is watertight. But after this point I think he and the mafia saw the writing on the wall. So after 14:11 it's damage control mode. On June 13 2014 04:26 Chromatically wrote:On June 13 2014 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
chrom your ritoky case applies to half the people in the game, why is ritoky pushing on you and sometimes mz different from kotc pushing on batsnacks for the worst reasons known to man? why you push yours over sheep? why you want to be so speshul? It doesn't though. The whole point is that ritoky isn't actually pushing on me. He's not trying to get me lynched at all. He just doesn't post about anything other than me, which is super scummy. AND he always responds to questions at him but never does anything. I'm trying to show the active lurking thing with quotes but I can't figure out how the timestamps work. It's something I noticed when I was talking to him. I would say something and he would immediately respond, and then some time later I would say something and he would immediately respond, but post nothing in the meantime. Someone else noticed it too (I thought it was JAT but it's not in his filter), I can't find the quote. I'm not going to defend Cats because he's pretty awful too. I just think my case is like a surefire scum lynch. No town does the things that ritoky does. On June 13 2014 04:28 Chromatically wrote:
case on Cats >>> case on Kush
Kush is like a 100% coinflip, he's just one of the people not playing. On June 13 2014 04:31 Chromatically wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: TheKingOfTheCats
Half an hour left and ritoky's not happening.
I'll look at kush's meta and stuff but I really doubt he's going to be a better lynch today. I think after 14:11, Chrom accepted that he was going to lose a teammate and decided that transitioning to the KotC wagon was his best move to stay alive. He never really says why he agrees with the KotC case, or anything about it really. Not even in the same ballpark as how much he said about Ritoky. Based on what I've presented here, I think we should lynch Chrom next. I'm not 100% sure, but short of being the seer I don't think there is a 100% sure in this game. Perhaps I'm naive in thinking mafia would switch an obvious mafia vote once it was determined it was unavoidable that mafia would die. But I think I'd try to do something similar if I was mafia, especially on the day 1 lynch. So that's my piece, let me know what you think. I think if you read chrom's filter since the lynching, he's pretty obviously trying to divert people from suspecting him. But for a townie, he sure is thinking an awful lot like a mafia. ##Vote Chromatically I don't really want to go through everything in this post because most of it is non-alignment indicative and/or I've already talked about it (my push on sinani, why I asked for Koshi's read on me, how I felt about Cats). If you have specific points that you want me to address, tell me. I think you're stretching a bit with your part about the lynch, though. You can certainly make the argument that my actions around the lynch were scum-motivated (although not if ritoky flips mafia as well), but it's not as clear-cut as you're trying to make it out to be. When I posted my case on ritoky, Cats had 9 votes and ritoky had 0. If I was scum, it would already BE "damage control mode"; the chances of swinging the lynch onto ritoky were minimal, especially as no one else had been really pushing ritoky all day. All it would accomplish is looking weird after the flip (yes, this is kind of WIFOM, but I think that's "wine that's harder to drink", so to speak). It seems to me like you're inventing a storyline to fit your conception when you add things like "Chrom clams up after this", "He's literally putting words into Koshi's mouth", and talking about preflip associations. I think you're downplaying the seriousness of your push to try and make a mockery of a very solid case. I think my case against you alone is still strong, but I think the push you made on me late in the day that exo pointed out and I noticed as well is even more damning. There was a guy with 8 votes on him a decent bit out from the deadline, and he wasn't just some mafia dude; it was a lynch that if it passed would reduce KP. If I was mafia, I would put in at least some effort to try and save KP. So in my opinion there had to be some wagon or some push that was made by mafia against someone to try and save the KP. My question to you chrom is, where was it? Was it the snb wagon etc.? My follow-up will be, why the hell aren't you pushing on those people then? Personally, I think that you and maybe Haru are the ones that tried to organize and make a push to save KP against someone you thought was low hanging fruit and could push with a crappy case. It didn't work out and you tried to run away and gain back town cred without anyone noticing what you did. I just don't see the mafia (even if it is day 1) letting KP reduction happen significant contest, and I think you were the one who tried to push it moreso than anyone on the snb train. voting on chrom, everyone else should tooI said I would come back with a read on banks in a bit, and I will deliver. It is entirely a meta read so take it with a grain of salt if you don't like meta reads. In the previous 2 games I have played with him he has come out as super town the first day phase both games and very easily lands in most people in the thread's top 2-3 town list. Then during day 2 he pretty much disappears. He goes from pushy, full of questions, and with substantive reads to pretty much not that. The most important thing imo though is that during day 2 of these 2 games he's been mafia in a row (and a lot of his video mafia) he does 1 big thing on day 2 as mafia: he doesn't push lynch targets and instead defers to others to find primary lynch targets. I think he is doing that again today. On top of that I have a tiny thing I have noticed from watching some of his video mafia and being in a couple forum games that he does on day 2, it has been 100% accurate of him being mafia in 2 forums games and its about 70% accurate of him being mafia when he does it in the video games I have seen. And he just did it recently. I think he could very likely be mafia here, but I would never push him over chrom who is obviously mafia at this point. Regarding Haru, I think he came out the worse of the exchange with rainbows, especially that "I'll drop it if you drop it" comment. If you think he is scum then no you shouldn't drop it. He could very likely be a scum buddy with chrom, as they did go together in on the wagon on me that exo pointed out. Also I saw some votes on sandroba? Is that supposed to be policy lynch? Cuz I don't know why you would waste those votes, the guy is damn near being modkilled from inactivity at this point. His filter isn't even on the 2nd page. I also really want ticatica to get active as he is one of my strongest town reads from a few things, but mostly this post: Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 03:31 TicaTica wrote:
I'm not sold on the King lynch but it's far from awful. I'll consolidate on it if needed versus say SnB. But I'm pretty sure Marv will get his way regardless so I'll do what I want. This is after he votes on ketomai. I think this post is 100% unnecessary if you are mafia. There's about 10 votes on the guy, he is obviously going down; so if he was mafia I feel like he would just take the free town cred like chrom did. I really want him to get more involved in the game. Plus he voted for ketomai who I wouldn't exactly be opposed to lynching. Ketomai voted on snb over KoC for not a particularly good reason. I didn't like his read on koshi, sinani, or exo when he gave them. If there's a world where the mafia were on the snb train to try and save KP instead of the whole chrom push thing, then this guy is probably one of them. Although I think chrom is more surefired mafia. tl;dr - just vote chrom
??? How am I involved in the chrom push? It simply doesn't make sense for all mafia to pile onto someone else, hoping for the kotc wagon to break up. If you read correctly, you would know that the reaspn why I refused to jump onto the kotc wagon but was ok with the other wagons and especially chrom's wagon was because I don't want to be involved with marv, who pissed me off at that time. Also, I had a strong townread on chrom that time, so it was natural that I'll sheep chrom over anyone else.
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Meta reads here, meta reads there, isn't this the same situation as the chrom-rainbows-Haru love triangle we got over here?
We wasted a day discussing stuff such as meta and 'scumreads' and we let some scum afk their way through this game. Can we start including EVERYONE into this game and bomb them?
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I'm bored rainbows, you can't make me look scummy at all. I'm done with you xD
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I thought your arguments were very one-dimensional. Looks like even your thinking is one-dimensional.
'OMGWTFBBQ GAIS HALU IS SKUM LEENCH HIM'
'...'
'...'
'yea he might be scum'
'maybe, I agree'
'yea'
And nothing. Rainbows, let me throw more scum remarks your way so that you have more material to work with. Or else I don't feel the excitement of trying to fight back a lynch on me.
Alright let me go back to my scum qt and ask them what to do next
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On June 15 2014 22:18 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 13:47 HaruRH wrote:On June 15 2014 12:46 Chromatically wrote:On June 15 2014 06:55 Rainbows wrote:Hey guys, I'm back. I was about to go examine some other people to hopefully get the tunnel vision off, but then I saw Haru posted this reply: On June 15 2014 04:18 HaruRH wrote:
LCS or World Cup... the decision is very real....
So I just want to wait to see if rainbows is willing to let go, if he is ,I will do so too. SCUM! Haru only wants to let go if I don't threaten to lynch him. This is NOT TOWNIE. Haru is too concerned with self-preservation. He is attempting to bargain with me so that he can live. "As long as you don't call me scum and try to lynch me, I'll do the same". His scumread on me is not predicated on thinking I'm mafia -- if it were, he would not care if I am simultaneously pressuring him. If he wanted to let go, he would just let go. He is mafia that doesn't want to be in the spotlight anymore. SHINE SHINE MUTHAFUCKA I am not your buddy Haru. You may be sexy and attractive but you are not my friend, pal. SCUM. DIE. EVERYBODY VOTE HARU. HE IS MAFIA. +1 to this btw, I misread Haru's post the first time as "I want to see if rainbows is willing to go", like they were going to have a big showdown or something. Backing off, but only if Rainbows does, makes it seem like his case was only meant to deter Rainbows from attacking him. It's especially weird after he's made a big show of how convinced he is on Rainbows. OMG +1+1+1 Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 21:26 HaruRH wrote:
I thought your arguments were very one-dimensional. Looks like even your thinking is one-dimensional.
'OMGWTFBBQ GAIS HALU IS SKUM LEENCH HIM'
'...'
'...'
'yea he might be scum'
'maybe, I agree'
'yea'
And nothing. Rainbows, let me throw more scum remarks your way so that you have more material to work with. Or else I don't feel the excitement of trying to fight back a lynch on me.
Alright let me go back to my scum qt and ask them what to do next If you don't stop this shit right now we might aswell lynch you. Just sayin. Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 16:15 Holyflare wrote:
You can criticise it all you want but the fact of the matter is all of those people have actually posted stuff that resembles trying to contribute. If you have good reasons for them to be town then post them. Don't just say "oh lurkers lol"
There was an uncontested lynch on mafia and the only other wagon was kush or snb. If snb is mafia then the lynxh went interely town ddominated the entire day 1 which means that mafia ARE lurkers. If snb is town then mafia still didn't push him hard enough over cats and then mafia would STILL be lurkers. Like poofter said - there was someone actively and fiercly pushing a different lynch at the end of the day. Not saying you are scum but hey, it is not that obvious to people who aren't you if the scumteam consists of lurkers. Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 19:28 Chairman Ray wrote:
My mafia hype has been completely overtaken by world cup hype.
Gonna drop a quick vote before I head to bed on someone who's more afk than I am
##Vote: Erandorr
Just wtf...
tsk, others shouldn't be involved in this argument.
Here's a question I'll pose instead,
Is a townie a scum if you call him a scum?
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There's only 1 way that this happened IMO. I think I know who the alignment blue is. Will tell you all the reason on d3 (if I survive till d3 that is) how I deduce the alignment.
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for now, my lynch list:
SCUM LEVEL
most scum
40% - Chromatically
30% - MIF, SnB, gumshoe, CR, sinani, Obiwan, koshi
20% - Erandorr, slam, VA, yamato, sand, ritoky, poofter, HF, round, Rainbows, ExO, ticatica, batsnacks
10% - Marv, JAT, kush
least scum
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FAQ session:
Q) 'omg haru didn't you give rainbows 50% scum rating why 20% now'
A) Rainbows is kinda town imo because of how hard he tried to push me. I don't see how a mafia would dare to do this.
Q) 'omg haru if chrom is on the top of your list why no vote him'
A) Switching votes should not be the only indication of my scumreads.
Q) 'Why is XXX on XXX%?'
A) For me to know, for you to find out.
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On June 16 2014 03:14 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 02:54 roundabound wrote:On June 16 2014 02:49 TicaTica wrote:On June 16 2014 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 02:18 TicaTica wrote:
I really doubt MILF is mafia just based on timing. Gonna shower then filter. Sandroba a better lynch IMO. Ok, elaborate on that when you are back please. Look at where an when things have come up. Semi late push. No reasonable counter push. Votes spread all around. I'd look at Ket and Haruh. I don't think the rainbows Haru shit was town on town at all. No counter push? Kush, no? Sandroba, no? The vote spread around is not indicative to me of mafia being happy or unhappy with the vote. Its indicative of lack of leadership. Every bob, joe, dick and harry is going around saying "Player XYZ" is mafia; there has not been a driving force towards consolidation. Robik and me finally caught up to chat & we agree rainbows/haru is not town + town either. However I havent seen a good reason to not vote MIF other than potential to solve the game (which is applicable to a multitude of players left in the pool). ~moc There's nothing coordinated with any of those pushes. There's no urgency. The closest thing is the Haruh/Rainbows thing. Votes right now show they don't in any way care about Fool getting lynched now and haven't all day. That makes him exceptionally likely to be town. I'm pretty sure that Haru is the mafia between Haru/rainbows, but I'm going to spend my time there.
Really? So you guys choose to ignore the elephant in the room? Even when I explained EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. of the arguments pointed at me, getting pissed off at how people simply dig out the same shit over and over again to use as argument, when they refuse to read other posts which explain why this is so?
So tell me tica, what case do you have against me? Bring it out. I'll be kind and link a post of mine that answers this.
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On June 16 2014 03:16 Rainbows wrote:
So yeah. Wagon Haru plz Vote him all day.
If you cant do that vote on CR for being the second scummiest person in thread with his errandor vote.
If you can't do that vote sandro for policy inactive.
I decree this the ultimate plan.
And you think stuff like this don't qualify for Rainbows being the scum? Really?
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you know what, I don't care anymore. nobody has made a convincing case against me at all. None of you. Go ahead, lynch me today. I'll drop by 10 minutes before the lynch tomorrow and write my final remarks.
Enjoy the mislynch guys
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On June 16 2014 03:26 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 03:24 HaruRH wrote:
you know what, I don't care anymore. nobody has made a convincing case against me at all. None of you. Go ahead, lynch me today. I'll drop by 10 minutes before the lynch tomorrow and write my final remarks.
Enjoy the mislynch guys Dude, talk about overreaction.. wtf. You have ONE, read (1) vote on you. If town, the best thing you can do is "continue to' push reads OTHER than Rainbows. ~moc
Nope. Chrom with his semi read. Everyone else with the yea I think haru is scum cos....???'
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On June 16 2014 03:47 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 18:42 HaruRH wrote:
I read through 30+ pages of 'stuff' and the huge post by koshi and the reads off koshi's posts were striking to me.
CR seems like trying to earn some towncred by pointing out koshi first, so that in the future he can use this as a reference to how towny he is.
Town totem: Chrom, batsnacks.
Everyone else is hard to read. They make towny posts, then destroy their own image by making themselves look scummy. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 23:32 HaruRH wrote:
Exo joins me on my town totem.
Town totem:
Chrom
Exo
batsnacks I really dislike when people give townreads for literally no reason. Even moreso, most people were reading Chrome and bat as town already. I don't find this definitive, but I'd lean a shade towards mafia. Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 18:00 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote:
Very sneaky voting man this Haru. I thought I said the vote on CR from me was a placeholder? SnB have some weird posts, will link them here in one sec, Filter dived him today. This is a really odd response if Haru is town. His response is defensive which isn't alignment indicative imo; but there is something specific that I find interesting about this. Is most cases where someone pushes against you, many times the town target wants to feel out the person who's pushing against them. In the case of Palmer who hadn't done anything really, this is often especially important to get him to explain his viewpoint. Haru didn't feel like it was important at all to try and figure out Palmer's alignment at all. That's pretty odd. What I find more interesting about this is the response to Palmer is quite different from the following response: Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru. Firstly, this haru guy don't even On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray contribute On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting. Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out. At On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically
Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . Then he shitposts. ALL. Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH The thing about this is that Haru is so sarcastic about this. He's also exceptionally indignant which I find more often comes from mafia. He's not in any way defensive or protective about people being dismissive about his reads. He doens't even show any care about them. It's moreso that he is trying to dismiss being seen as scum than he's trying to fight for any of his points. FWIW, Marv had bad feels about Haru earlier on too. Another interesting thing that I see is that Haru doesn't really follow up on his reads whatsoever. He makes points that he finds important, but he never revisits them. He doesn't consider or move to re-evaluate reads. There is literally zero possibility of Haru being town. None of his reads are anything which he holds any sort of conviction about. Chrome was originally town totem, but now he's his top scum read. Neither time is there any reasoning for it. He's essentially just omgus'd whoever has attacked him for the littlest thing. At worst, we remove a bad town who we don't want or need at endgame. Mostly likely though we lynch scum back to back. #vote.
So tica, how much are you willing to bet?
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On June 16 2014 03:47 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 18:42 HaruRH wrote:
I read through 30+ pages of 'stuff' and the huge post by koshi and the reads off koshi's posts were striking to me.
CR seems like trying to earn some towncred by pointing out koshi first, so that in the future he can use this as a reference to how towny he is.
Town totem: Chrom, batsnacks.
Everyone else is hard to read. They make towny posts, then destroy their own image by making themselves look scummy. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 23:32 HaruRH wrote:
Exo joins me on my town totem.
Town totem:
Chrom
Exo
batsnacks I really dislike when people give townreads for literally no reason. Even moreso, most people were reading Chrome and bat as town already. I don't find this definitive, but I'd lean a shade towards mafia. Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 18:00 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote:
Very sneaky voting man this Haru. I thought I said the vote on CR from me was a placeholder? SnB have some weird posts, will link them here in one sec, Filter dived him today. This is a really odd response if Haru is town. His response is defensive which isn't alignment indicative imo; but there is something specific that I find interesting about this. Is most cases where someone pushes against you, many times the town target wants to feel out the person who's pushing against them. In the case of Palmer who hadn't done anything really, this is often especially important to get him to explain his viewpoint. Haru didn't feel like it was important at all to try and figure out Palmer's alignment at all. That's pretty odd. What I find more interesting about this is the response to Palmer is quite different from the following response: Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru. Firstly, this haru guy don't even On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray contribute On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting. Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out. At On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically
Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . Then he shitposts. ALL. Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH The thing about this is that Haru is so sarcastic about this. He's also exceptionally indignant which I find more often comes from mafia. He's not in any way defensive or protective about people being dismissive about his reads. He doens't even show any care about them. It's moreso that he is trying to dismiss being seen as scum than he's trying to fight for any of his points. FWIW, Marv had bad feels about Haru earlier on too. Another interesting thing that I see is that Haru doesn't really follow up on his reads whatsoever. He makes points that he finds important, but he never revisits them. He doesn't consider or move to re-evaluate reads. There is literally zero possibility of Haru being town. None of his reads are anything which he holds any sort of conviction about. Chrome was originally town totem, but now he's his top scum read. Neither time is there any reasoning for it. He's essentially just omgus'd whoever has attacked him for the littlest thing. At worst, we remove a bad town who we don't want or need at endgame. Mostly likely though we lynch scum back to back. #vote.
Fine. I decided I shouldn't go for the condescending&pessimist|Haru anymore. From now on, Haru flicked the switch.
I will not reply to your first point, since disliking someone posting townreads without evidence would apply to almost half the people here.
I started being condescending after marv's meta attack on me. That left quite a large scar. So I started playing like someone who don't care anymore. Because I really didn't care anymore.
I hope you read that post in context. I was so pissed that marv tried to meta me through 1 game, that I exploded lol.
I didn't follow up my reads... no I did follow up on rainbows.
If you read properly, Chrom did something that made him come to one of the top (he was supposed to be below rainbows). However, with rainbows being struck out, I deduced that chrom was my top scumread. There was. Read my filter properly again.
No. I didn't omgus everyone/everything that attacked me. Ok maybe I did.
I will make you take back your words.
no you didn't lynch scum back to back.
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On June 16 2014 03:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 02:48 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 00:24 Koshi wrote:
It could be that mz was rb and that kush is scum. But town vigi shot mz and hf fake claimed the rb.
Then kush is bussing hf like he likes. And hf is bussing kush for funzies.
Yes. I like this theory. HF rb was silly. It could be. But how likely is that. It means you are SURE HF is scum too. Might aswell vote him. This a very strange post btw. Why do I have to vote for HF if I think both are scum? Doesnt make any sense. Smells so iffy. Robik the magus what you think? Koshi... you posted a theory that relied on HF being scum. Very strange to suggest voting him then hm? Are you serious? It takes serious self control for me to no call you names right now. Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 03:18 HaruRH wrote:On June 16 2014 03:14 TicaTica wrote:On June 16 2014 02:54 roundabound wrote:On June 16 2014 02:49 TicaTica wrote:On June 16 2014 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 02:18 TicaTica wrote:
I really doubt MILF is mafia just based on timing. Gonna shower then filter. Sandroba a better lynch IMO. Ok, elaborate on that when you are back please. Look at where an when things have come up. Semi late push. No reasonable counter push. Votes spread all around. I'd look at Ket and Haruh. I don't think the rainbows Haru shit was town on town at all. No counter push? Kush, no? Sandroba, no? The vote spread around is not indicative to me of mafia being happy or unhappy with the vote. Its indicative of lack of leadership. Every bob, joe, dick and harry is going around saying "Player XYZ" is mafia; there has not been a driving force towards consolidation. Robik and me finally caught up to chat & we agree rainbows/haru is not town + town either. However I havent seen a good reason to not vote MIF other than potential to solve the game (which is applicable to a multitude of players left in the pool). ~moc There's nothing coordinated with any of those pushes. There's no urgency. The closest thing is the Haruh/Rainbows thing. Votes right now show they don't in any way care about Fool getting lynched now and haven't all day. That makes him exceptionally likely to be town. I'm pretty sure that Haru is the mafia between Haru/rainbows, but I'm going to spend my time there. Really? So you guys choose to ignore the elephant in the room? Even when I explained EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. of the arguments pointed at me, getting pissed off at how people simply dig out the same shit over and over again to use as argument, when they refuse to read other posts which explain why this is so? So tell me tica, what case do you have against me? Bring it out. I'll be kind and link a post of mine that answers this. Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 03:24 HaruRH wrote:
you know what, I don't care anymore. nobody has made a convincing case against me at all. None of you. Go ahead, lynch me today. I'll drop by 10 minutes before the lynch tomorrow and write my final remarks.
Enjoy the mislynch guys You are not only annoying I start to think you are pretty scummy for only coming into this thread if you feel the need to defend yourself overly aggressive.
Yes, I was annoyed. Annoyed -> annoying.
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Right. Ask me any questions now while I'm still in the happy mood.
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On June 14 2014 22:16 Rainbows wrote:
Also that "ill sac myself then lynch rainbows" is scummy to hell. if he is town he doesnt know im my alignment, and no town would put all eggs in basket at the risk of two mislynches. Getting yourself lynched is stupid to prove something in this situation.
Rainbows seem to disagree that if I get mislynched, he will get lynched too. Complete safety behind a wall.
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I'm in favour of a yamato lynch. ##Vote: Yamato
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Right, so before I get lynched (It's a possibility!), I need to apologise to everyone for playing such a bad town. Special mentions to marv and rainbows, I might have personally attacked them. Don't mind me. I was not in a terribly good mood.
My scumreads:
Koshi - make sure you all take a good look at Koshi. none of the HUGE POSTS promised arrived. Much empty promises.
Rainbows - as promised, one of us is mafia. figure it out by yourselves.
Chrom - He played very awkwardly. I filter dived him, but I have no time for a proper analysis. He definitely played very different from the town|Chrom in detention mafia. Yes, I'm meta-ing him now.
That's it. Don't feel disappointed. Don't cry about this mislynch. Thanks for the game. Was a learning experience about how to play a proper town d1.
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I called out chrom. I get a cookie.
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