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marvellosity
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On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote: So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol well if i thought you had been at all useful besides, the meta wouldn't matter...  | ||
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On June 12 2014 20:57 HaruRH wrote: Hey marv if you wanna meta me, you need to re-read my posts to even use it as meta Heres a short little rap by me to show you what I mean i have no idea what you're trying to say. i don't care for you sitting around arguing with me about your previous game. | ||
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On June 12 2014 21:05 HaruRH wrote: I have no idea what are you trying to do here too marv. Firstly, you scumread me for not playing like the last game, to which I explain nothing much changed except for my attitude, even citing examples, and yet you dont care about arguing about my previous game....??? In what way are you supposed to be useful on d1? I'm not the type to scumread people based on 2 real life day worth of content, with no methods of deducing anything at all. Not everyone play like you all do. if i have zero reason to think you are town, you are a valid lynch target. it's a very simple equation. | ||
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Disclaimer: this may well change (so far I looked at ritoky, MZ, kingofcats) It seems from his intro post that he has at least played mafia a bit before. And his signature suggests this too. So I'm not going to give him a pass for weird things based on newishness. He made a couple of references to "filter diving", one which is quite odd On June 12 2014 02:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: Ohh, things have occurred in the time it took me to type that up. Looks like i have to do some more filter diving. Like in the 5-10 minutes it took him to write up a post, a couple of pages of thread went by? That doesn't mean more filter diving, that just means reading the thread. It's odd. His whole rationale for voting batsnacks comes across as really superficial. On June 12 2014 02:02 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: Not liking Batsnacks atm. His reasons for voting Roundabound are "i don't like hydras" and "He called someone by their nickname" and when Roundabound pointed out his second reason made no sense (Round called someone by their nickname. Calling someone by a nickname is a scum tactic apparently. Therefore Round is scum. A train of thought so wrong i have trouble believing it came naturally as town) he just dismissed it. Really anyone with a passing acquaintance with mafia know that scum aren't very likely to give randomly bad or jokey reasons for someone being mafia. Especially as it was like right after the game started (as batsnacks pointed out) On June 12 2014 02:51 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: There's terrible and there's terrible and i don't see honest townie idiocy in Bat's read of Round. But you do think that a mafia would genuinely try to lynch someone for using mafia nicknames as a scum tactic? Really? In what world do mafia ever do this? On June 12 2014 03:04 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: He says that using nicknames is a scum tactic to confuse people, something that doesn't make any sense. And then he says that Round is scum because he called someone by their nickname, ignoring the fact that even if the nickname thing is a scum tactic it doesn't automatically make him scum for addressing someone by their nickname. It's wrong on too many levels, at least in my mind. On June 12 2014 03:35 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: Null for now. I need to read through both his and your filters carefully before i can come to a proper conclusion. such filter diving wow tldr: I can't find even a glimmer of why this boy is town I don't believe the push on batsnacks and the reasons presented for it, it feels so superficial - pushing batsnacks for reasons that he can't possibly believe batsnacks is serious about, and it's his only contribution weirld stilted filter diving references and general lack of cares for the game | ||
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this is a good sign | ||
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maybe you did, but i can't remember what you said, which means it wasn't very substantial or important. he's been drifting under the radar quite well for reasons i'm not sure of. | ||
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maybe you could tell me why ketomai and s&b are or are not mafia, why you have reservations, why you don't, same with ritoky, MZ. Or anyone you like. Anyone can do this actually. | ||
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for reference i have temporarily discounted ritoky because although i find his "reeks of TMI" stuff really odd, in some way he didn't understand why it was odd and seemed quite angry I didn't understand, and also his posts in plenty of parts seem pretty direct. so maybe he is mafia but maybe also those could be reasons he isn't. MZ i might still lynch, i had a small gut town reaction when he said "omg how am i below koshi" to palmar's numbers list. and one or two things about he talked to someone, although i've totally forgotten what now. he's still kinda suspicious to me but... meh. | ||
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I wish he would address the meat of my case though (ergo, surely he cannot believe that mafia would genuinely try to use the silly reasons batsnacks did to try to lynch someone). I want that rationalised. | ||
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On June 12 2014 22:19 justanothertownie wrote: Ketomai: Weird start with the voting but not alignment indicative I think. Scummy post. Unwarranted martyring. He then promises one content post and delivers this: + Show Spoiler + On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote: I'm here and I realize you're just pressuring me to respond, but reading 50 straight pages of mostly spam is honestly exhausting (and impossible for me after a long day at work). I gave up in the middle and just took a cursory glance through filters and whatnot for current top votes. I also took a look at a few other people that showed up near the beginning of the thread. I'll try to keep up with the thread from now on. Hopefully there's less spam in the future because missing 1 day so far seems to be catastrophic. Top votes: Koshi: Leaning slightly towards mafia. Biggest flag is his lack of cooperation with town as noted by others. He doesn't really argue, he just tries to pass off his viewpoints on the grounds that it should be obvious. I'm willing to wait on how he responds now that he's under pressure now and after he's promised to be more cooperative, however. He hasn't really contributed much other than defending himself. Also, I disagree with pretty much everything he says, but that doesn't really make him more or less mafia. Exo: Leaning slightly towards town. He doesn't spam up the thread and has only posted the few times he's confident in his opinion. However, his last post that also contained his vote jumped to a conclusion really fast without much evidence. The way he said it leaves room for change, like my own vote, so I'm also not too suspicious of that. It feels more like he honestly doesn't know who to vote for because there's so much spam/finger pointing as a newer player. Roundabout: No read. When he was attacking me earlier I thought he was doing that to everyone to create some chaos, but after looking through the filters he hasn't really done much past the early game. The point about him not contributing much is true, but not enough grounds to seem mafia yet; the game is early. The jump on me was a bit strange since I, personally, felt it was useless garbage spamming up the thread, but I'll ignore that. I would like to see him post more now that the "heat" is off of him. strongandbig: Seems a little bit like mafia. Would be the easy pick to vote but I'd love to see him defend himself first because like my suspicions for every one else after 1 day, I'm not sure. If anything, a lynch wouldn't be so bad just because he's not productive/working w/ the town. ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying). Chairman Ray: slightly town. So far everything he posts is pretty logical. I disagree a bit with his leaps on roundabout, but he's defended himself and arguments pretty well, so I like that. He brings up his own arguments to add to town discussion as well, which is usually good if they make sense. MZ: Other than furthering the VA lynchwagon (unless I missed some great post about it), not enough info, no read. Anyway I made a post because I promised it, but as you can see my knowledge of the thread is not very thorough yet. You should view these as my initial thoughts. I feel strongest about ritoky out of the people I checked so I'll vote on him for now to get him to speak out. I don't really know if I think this post on it's own is towny enough to let him survive day1. Since he already announced that this will be all we get from him today. I think it is quite weird how he adds reads on MZ and roundabout that say nothing while leaving most of the players out of this post. Why include them? Also a completely non-committal read on SnB. yes I think this guy is a pretty good lynch also. | ||
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On June 12 2014 22:40 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: It's not as if i believe he's 100% scum for doing it. When i make cases on people i'm not sure about i exaggerate their scumminess to provoke a reaction. Judging what they and others say about the case helps me deduce people's alignments, it's worked in the past. Plus seeing as no-one was on him at the time i thought it would be a good idea to put him under the spotlight. Sadly Bat's reaction didn't help me get a read on him and i'm only more wary of him for trying to direct blues. i don't understand how you can think he is any scum for doing it, let alone 100%. also in what world do mafia direct blues? | ||
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