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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
June 11 2014 14:30 GMT
#1141
yeah hf is too scummy to be scum i agree with that. i eel like if he were scum there would be at least some effort to appease town about his absence.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
June 11 2014 14:31 GMT
#1142
any good cases i can look at yet?
case on tehpoofter is the most garbage case ever
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 11 2014 14:32 GMT
#1143
Exo joins me on my town totem.

Town totem:
Chrom
Exo
batsnacks
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2014 14:36 GMT
#1144
Lets kill gumshoe for playing like gumshoe
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2014 14:41 GMT
#1145
Koshi read on chrom says a lot of words to come to conclusion of he plays this way as both alignments
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 11 2014 14:41 GMT
#1146
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2014 14:51 GMT
#1147
Meh list is meh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2014 14:52 GMT
#1148
Turning off phone, distractions and temptations!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 14:53 GMT
#1149
On June 11 2014 23:27 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 23:17 Rainbows wrote:
i dont see a reason for mafia HF not to just peace out till thursday and stick to that. This seems inherently more scummy, but so obviously scummy that he probably wouldn't do it as scum. lol


I'm not so sure. If you are the mafia, you've got all the power. You're in control of the game, and you know it (and nobody else knows it). I think he could very easily just be an overconfident mafia

you and i are agreeing on a lot, even my voting pattern, albeit i don't consider it a dismissal of my vote on poofter due to his buddying whereas i haven't been going out of my way to list 5 townreads... i believe i've only listed on that i am fairly sure on, and even then, if he flips scum, i wouldn't be too surprised
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 14:54 GMT
#1150
On June 11 2014 23:31 kushm4sta wrote:
any good cases i can look at yet?
case on tehpoofter is the most garbage case ever

how so? the fact he is directly claiming people are town? the fact he isn't scumhunting and is buddying? no.

I believe your play is moreso
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 14:54 GMT
#1151
On June 11 2014 23:32 HaruRH wrote:
Exo joins me on my town totem.

Town totem:
Chrom
Exo
batsnacks

really dislike your reads and considering youre a 3rd vote youre becoming ever more scummy to me
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 14:56 GMT
#1152
On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum

oh, hey there, glad you could join us

##vote: strongandbig
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 14:57 GMT
#1153
Palmar, I know I'm hard to sheep, but just bear with me here.

How much does StrongandBig post as mafia versus as town?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 14:57 GMT
#1154
I mean, now that he's not going to be modkilled, I'm not moving my vote.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
June 11 2014 15:10 GMT
#1155
bm how noob is it to think the most active person d1 is scum..
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 11 2014 15:31 GMT
#1156
BM I am loyal and hard working sheep.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 11 2014 15:38 GMT
#1157
Who was mafia in that djinn game?
Computer says mafia
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 15:46 GMT
#1158
So many nerfs on Alderaan they should call it Irelia
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 15:54 GMT
#1159
I've got to go for awhile... Didn't sleep well last night, either, with this game weighing on my mind

didn't really get any hmm... deeper thoughts/meaning out of any of my rest.... like I normally would, when I was at my peak... I will have to think about the game while I work.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 11 2014 16:01 GMT
#1160
Koshi is scum, we are lynching him today. He is completely fabricating his read on me and desperately trying to find things to support it.

On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Chromatically:
I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him.

tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread.
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first

therefore the first six people to post are scum

gg

On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote:
Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.

Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good.

On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206



On June 11 2014 22:48 Koshi wrote:
Building on to Chromatically:
Sadly the scrubs in this thread see Chrom as town. The reasons I gave to why Chrom are scum are obviously totally ignored, yet nobody is voting for Sinani.
Chrom meta:
GoT game. Chrom does nothing else but tunnel S0lstice this game. Nobody else found s0lstice scummy but Chrom just kept going and going and it was all fine and dandy. So it's not impossible for scum!Chrom do to what he is doing.
Do other people see why Sinani is scum? Is Chrom his case exaggerated? If it isn't, why aren't you supporting it? I tell you again, I read that Chrom case, I read Sinani filter multiple times and I DO NOT SEE IT. I do not see the "scummy mindset" that Chrom is portraying.

Detention mafia. Latest towngame from Chrom. The tunneling seems to be not mafia indicative for Chrom. Somewhere I want to believe that in his towngame Chrom asked people what they found of his Gobble case while in this game he just asks marv to vote with him but it might be the same thing and I am biased.

tldr: I didn't like how Chrom entered the thread. Which made me look at his filter. I wanted to see what Chrom would do if I pressured him on his Sinani read. Chrom decided to trow some more suspicion on me with generic reasons to why I am mafia. Do I still think he needs to be watched? Yes.

Here are his two reads on me. I've already talked about why the first one is bad, but the second one is even worse. He's making stuff up and exaggerating things so that it looks like his position is reasonable.


First of all, my sinani case. Koshi's read on me is based around the fact that he disagrees with my sinani read, ("I do not see the scummy mindset that Chrom is portraying"). But, this disagreement clearly doesn't make me scum, so Koshi needs to find some way to have it make me scum. So he exaggerates my position to an extreme: "I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him." This is clearly not true.

Facts:
- my case was posted ~2 hours into the game
- my case was based on 3 of sinani's posts
- I asked marv why he wouldn't sheep me
- I asked Tica what he thought of sinani

My case is a very early-game case, and certainly not cause for a "strong scumread". There's nothing that indicates that I have a super strong scumread on sinani. Neither of my questions to people show me trying to get a wagon started. I was asking for reads, not pushing people to vote for him. This is all pretty obvious from my filter.

Koshi is deliberately exaggerating my position to make it look scummy. He knows there's nothing wrong with someone making an early-game case and asking for reads on it, so he has to distort my play to fit his idea of me as scum.


Also, from his first post:
On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him.

From his second post:
On June 11 2014 22:48 Koshi wrote:
Also do you remember MZ saying that he read Chrome his filter and didn't understand what Chromes case on Sinani was about? My "scumread" on Chrome is based on that same fact. The fact that Chrome is pushing Sinani pretty mehly.

NOTICE THE COMPLETE CONTRADICTION. First he says that I'm mafia because my read on sinani is too strong, and then later he says that I'm mafia because it's too weak. He says earlier that I'm pushing everyone to sheep me, but then he says that I'm pushing it too "mehly". It can't be both. Koshi forgot his supposed reason why he was calling me mafia and flipped it around.


His meta read on me, in addition to saying literally nothing at all in a lot of words, is not even true. He says in GoT that I "did nothing but tunnel Solstice" even though "no one else found solstice scummy", which is a blatant lie (I pushed solstice for maybe half of D1, other people did find solstice scummy for what I pointed out). The point is that Koshi's meta on me is completely false, made up so that he can act like it matches this game and justify his read. This is even more alarming because he was scum with me that game, so he should remember what was happening with his teammates.


tl;dr, Koshi overexaggerates my play so that he can call it scummy, and contradicts himself on why I am mafia. Town does not need to twist things to fit their view, scum does because they know that their logic is wrong. Town does not contradict themselves on why they are calling someone mafia because they truly believe it, scum can.
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